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Mr P
ParticipantF22 can carry bomb type B-61 – a nuclear bomb of variable yield, ie a hydrogen bomb.
(I think that’s on the “option list”…and of course it’s as you say, supposed that the “enemy” (Russia) may send some sexy airplanes too.
at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor I do not see this spoken of.
It is pretty sexy flying machine. However “stealth” depends on assumptions about the type of radar the putative opponent has. I note Ruskie radars are also very sexy, and that the big jamming systems now present in the zone of assumed target may present two big non-assumed conditions. These are:
1) The high power jamming may well disrupt the function of the aircraft.
2) In theory the high power jamming may, probably does, “light up” whatever radar cross section the aircraft presents. This illumination can, imho, be integrated to a radar to reveal the illuminated, ah, “target aircraft”. (I recall that at big air show the F35 was easily tracked by a modern radar.)
This radar business is evolving, and the
Soviets, erReds, er, Ruskies are very good at it.Mr P
ParticipantOrange Man affair ……as if we need to know more clearly the obvious!
” “I f—ing told them that they needed to post guys f—ing over here…I told them that f—ing Tuesday,” said a Butler Township officer in audio captured by his body-worn camera and obtained by the Wall Street Journal.
“I talked to the Secret Service guys. They’re like, ‘Yeah, no problem. We’re going to post guys over here,'” the officer continues.”
(Video at url)
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Big economic fubar…which dovetails to big trouble dead ahead
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/rickards-put-your-crash-helmet-you-might-need-it-very-soon
“… stock market bounced back today after yesterday’s mini-crash — the “buy the dip” theme is deeply entrenched in today’s market.
But don’t make the mistake of thinking that stocks will continue on their way to record highs. There are too many red flags to ignore, although Wall Street would like you to ignore them….”
“…If we’re not in a recession already (I believe we entered one in May or June), we’re clearly heading for one. A new Middle East war will drive up the price of oil, maybe dramatically depending on how the conflict unfolds. That means higher prices at the pump, which are already too high for many Americans.
What if Iran shuts down the Strait of Hormuz, ending all oil exports from the Persian Gulf (or the Arabian Gulf, depending on who you’re talking to)? [what if? zionazis may burn the shore facilities]
That could be the final nail in the coffin of the Biden economy. We’d be staring in the face of a major recession that would crush average Americans.”
No kidding? Geewhiz, whodathunk? It doancost a dime more to keep th’ ol’ jalopy’s belly full than it do to keep her 1/2 full, Comrade
Mr P
ParticipantScott made a booboo, maybe – or maybe he’s even braver than I think. Marines like Scott take the Constitution, and the Oath, for what they say. Acting on that assumption is somewhere between brave, and naive. If he’d run away, or does (he still might be able to pull it off imho) he might find a job with RT or Sputnik, etc…. But he’s going to take the heroic path.
Meantime……….

I have been in youthful misadventures attacked by some very tough girls, and they can hit hard too! However they can’t do much damage. But when a man hits them, they break. If a man fights a woman he loses, whether he “wins” or get’s beat – either way he’s wrong. People will spit on him. A lose-lose proposition. Better send flowers!
Mr P
ParticipantIntel Slava Z
🇺🇸 🇮🇷❗️US Air Force F-22 Raptors arrive in Middle East to prevent regional escalation by Iran – US Central Commandhttps://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/21563195
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US airlifts F-22s to the Middle East
This is done in case of an escalation of the conflict between Israel and Iran, the US Central Command said.
NEW YORK, August 8. /tass/. The United States has deployed fifth-generation F-22 Raptor fighter jets to the Middle East in case the conflict between Israel and Iran escalates. This was reported by the Central Command of the US Armed Forces (CENTCOM).“F-22 Raptors arrived in the CENTCOM area of responsibility on August 8 as part of the redeployment of US forces to contain a possible escalation in the region by Iran and its allies,” the command said on its Twitter page.
Mr P
ParticipantSal the sailor-man lauds the very big “Q Ship”… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wlN_Kq3X9E
Well, sorta of a Q Ship. (These originated in WW1 as deadly lures to submarines of that time)
A pirate ship that is “not a Navy ship”, more like, and which blends in among ordinary ship traffic.
“…not a commissioned vessel in the U.S. Navy, or owned by the government, but leased from one of the largest ship operators, & chartered by the Military Sealift Command.
MVOT was recently spotted in Bahrain by @n_morse9927, making a rare public appearance.”
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“MV Ocean Trader has the capability to house a total of 209 special warfighting personnel, enough stores and provisions for 45 days of operations and the capability to refuel and replenish at sea, along with capacity to launch, recover, refuel, and resupply up to four small craft, including UAVs.
She includes a flight deck rated for day and night operation of Chinooks, Seahawks, Blackhawks, Kiowas, Apaches, Ospreys, Sea Stallions and Little Birds. There is storage and launch capability via the stern ramp for Zodiacs, RHIBs and jet skis.
The ship contains all the command and control and food services. A ship, forward deployed for over a year, can easily disappear amid an ocean filled with commercial shipping.” “
Mr P
Participant(almost) “Never before in History”.. (an old WW2 slogan of the German nazis)
“DD Geopolitics
🇩🇪 German exports have been falling since 2022, this decline is not smooth, but in leaps and bounds. Right now, another such failure in the export of German products has been recorded. Demand has fallen in the EU and the US, while slightly increasing in China.But the most important indicator is something else: for the first time, Germany’s imports exceeded its exports, meaning that the country’s trade balance became negative, something that has almost never happened in history. Is it worth mentioning how important this is for Germany, which largely lived off the sale of its goods to other countries.
🔴@DDGeopolitics
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ParticipantMr P
ParticipantWhen the vicious fascists brought the Red Hunts and the “Second Red Scare” – and the McCarthy Committee inquisition, one presumably damning “guilty act” was chipping in for coffee and cookies at a “meeting”. For a quarter of a dollar, for a nickel, one might later be accused of “supporting the international commie conspiracy to overthrow America”. For that quarter one might later find himself ordered to appear before the inquisition – at one’s own expense, by the way. I know this from direct observations. And I have read much of the Congressional records as they relate to the inquisitions of the 1950’s.
One result was the ruin of the American Communist Party. Another was the ruin of countless decent and moral Americans – the destruction of old friendships, the sundering of families, the ruin of professional careers, and ultimately the terror of the so-called cold war…including the millions murdered in the name of “fighting Communism”, and vast waste of treasure building weapons, and many thousands of nuclear bombs – including many hundreds of open air “tests” – the product of which even to-day infects millions with cancer. There was no need to “receive foreign monies” or to leave the US – all it took was a few meetings, or even one, and chipping in for cookies.
With that in mind, consider the sober view, with which I am, sadly, in agreement, of Gilbert Doctorow. Specifically with respect to our admired Scott Ritter, and more generally.
Finally, my own view. The Constitution means nothing to the fascist, the nazi. Scott and many have been, and are, naive. Innocents. They fail to grasp the fundamental nature of “domestic” reality. Of course that’s going to change. And this is not the Second Red Hunt”, it’s the third.
https://gilbertdoctorow.com/author/gilbertdoctorow/
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“…Scott Ritter has made some serious errors of judgment which have led ineluctably to the present search and to his likely trial and conviction.
This is not the fate of one brave but misguided public figure that I am writing about. It is the failure by Ritter and others to understand what constitutes correct behavior with respect to the publicly identified adversary of the United States, which Russia is today just as the Soviet Union was in the days of the first Cold War. I write to inform a new generation of activists where the red lines are and what to avoid lest they fall victim as Ritter has and similarly discredit the Opposition….”
Oh how I wish Gilbert was mistaken…
Mr P
Participanthttps://fpp.co.uk/books/VirusHouse/ (on the nazi bomb project, pretty good!)
https://www.rt.com/russia/602290-hitler-planned-to-nuke-ussr/ (rather breathless, perhaps sensational)
They worked on the thing, and of course intended to use it, but were unable to mount the necessary scope of industrial project. For example, iirc, the Manhattan Project used about 10% of the total electrical capacity of the US, entire industries had to be built, new material (teflon, for example) had to be invented. They might have been able to build radiological “bombs” – but not a real atomic explosion. TNT was a more “profitable” way for them. Graphite is generally contaminated with boron, chemically quite similar to carbon, so they realised that rare isotope “heavy water” (3 hydrogens instead of two) was necessary. The UK destroyed the heavy water in a raid, and damaged the electrolysis plant in Norway by commando raid, later, iirc, by bombing from the air.
The UK bomb project, Churchill’s ardent lust, was always for the USSR. The UK project transfered to the US when the Brits realised they themselves couldn’t do it. Hence it was a combined effort for the US and Canada and England, and very importantly, European expat boffins. The boffins were very motivated by their angst at the idea that the Germans would beat them to it, and did not realise that the bomb was “for Russia” all along.
The bombs on Japan were simply political instruments for intimidating the USSR, and effects tests. They had nothing to do with the Japanese surrender, which was decided by the Red Army destroying the vast Japanese Army in Manchuria.
Mr P
ParticipantFrom the many above> “…the secrets of the atomic bomb, known since the 1930s, were disclosed to the Allies as early as 1938…”
The general idea was patented by Szilard (UK patent) That’s true. After that it was still unclear how, even if, it was possible. Einstein thought it would be so big that only a steamship could carry one. More research revealed two potential materials, an isotope of plutonium, and an isotope of Uranium. Pu was unsuitable for a simple bomb, a “gun-type”, but U would work. (iirc there are actually two workable isotopes of U. After than almost everything was just engineering. The only real secret was that it could be done in a package small enough to move around, a “bomb”. Heisenberg was pretty sure, probably, how to do it. However the resources to do it were by that time unavailable to the Germans – it’s just too big a project with the ways of the 1940’s. The “secret” was made essentially public at Alamogordo, when that gadget worked. Engineering details, like methods of isotope separation, reactor design for breeding Pu, designs of implosions devices…did matter, but leaked out almost immediately. Those secrets were ephemeral and actually almost trivial. Any bright educated bunch with plenty of resources could make these things within a few years.
Mr P
ParticipantFun stuff! Orange man affair………..
“FROM TELEGRAM:
Details of the investigation of the Trump assassination attempt have become sensational – ZakharovaInvestigative journalists from The New York Times gained access to the correspondence of the Pennsylvania police and found out something “frankly wild,” Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova posted on her social media.
🔶 A couple of hours before the shooting, the police exchanged photos of Thomas Matthew Crooks, who walked around the are and appeared to measure the distance of the vicinity
🔶 On the eve of the assassination attempt, AGR warehouse No. 6 was excluded from the guarded perimeter, of which Crooks fired from as he positioned himself on its roof. One even didn’t have to go through any security checks to get there.
🔶 It was the US Secret Service, whose leadership was appointed by Joe Biden, that excluded the building from the perimeter.
🔶 The Secret Service refused a requested meeting with the local police, who suspected Crooks on the eve of the assassination attempt.
🔶 Facts detailing that on the eve of the incident, Crooks searched for information about the distance between Lee Harvey Oswald and John F. Kennedy, and that he had his own drones, which he launched on the eve of the rally in Pennsylvania, are “mind-blowing.”
“Maybe the US special services should take down a couple hundred people who are trailing Russian diplomats everywhere in a vain attempt to persuade them to cooperate, and patch up real security holes with them? At least the top officials of the US political arena,” Zakharova said.”
(Oswald did not shoot anybody)
ENDE
Mr P
ParticipantMichigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer just signed a bill into law which prohibits recounting votes based on allegations of election fraud
“The people who cast the votes don’t decide an election, the people who count the votes do, ” (Stalin, smart fella!)
Gretchen Whitmer makes her move to green light widespread election fraud in Michigan…
Mr P
ParticipantHiroshima – the unknown images – YouTube
Film 52 minutes , documentary.
12 kiltons, a small tactical and very primitive gadget. Hiroshima was the first such bomb, so simple that it did not need to be tested, and very dangerous….liable to go off if it got wet. See Coster Mullin on atomic bombs. About 75 pounds of U235, most of which did not fission, and a bit of this and that.
Mr P
ParticipantI think Martanov actually confirms Postal’s most basic argument. That was/is that the people in the US believe that they can do a first strike and get away with it. That they themselves are in “group-think, and must be in that state in order to “advance” in their jobs. That this belief is delusional is the fundamental problem. I had some doubts about Postal’s claim that Ruskie was unable to see US launches, as I noticed he did not mention OTH radar or the likelihood of additional satellites. What seems, probably is, true, is that the couple, the pair of machine elements of Rus and US forms a doomsday machine. If the US were to act upon their delusions as to Ruskie capabilities by launching many missiles, we might hope that Ruskie holds off on counter-fire. Slim hope. Some US missiles would almost surely hit their targets in Russia…after that reprisal would almost certainly take place. Doomsday? They say that about 100 bombs would kill most people on earth, most from starvation due to the smoke from burning targets. In the assumed “exchange” 100 seems like a low number.
OTH radar, by the way, was the first radar ever used. First noticed in the form of radio echos from ships at a distance over the horizon – a surprise in US fleet exercises in the 1920-1930 period, and in WW2 by the UK “Chain Home” system. Chain Home could see V2 launches in Europe, and vector bombers to attack the V2 launch sites in a very short time. That made it necessary to make the V2 launch system mobile. Modern signal processing makes OTH pretty accurate. It depends on ionization of the upper atmosphere, and that waves around and varies constantly, even going away sometimes with Earth magnet field variations, solar conditions create the ionosphere in interaction with the magnetic field. My view that a CME can disarm the doomsday machine, is not changed, that and “ground-based” 😉 affairs, ie political-technical matters may actually shut the machine off in time.
I did some recent exploration of the character of “group delusions” and the holders of false histories and beliefs, of what Postal called “group-think”. It is highly obdurate. Almost impenetrable. In “adults” anyway. In kids it’s probably somewhat plastic.
I had missed, skipped, Martanov’s reply to Postal. Actually I wasn’t going to bother with Postal at all, until AHH suggested it. Thanks to both of you. Quite an excursion!
Mr P
Participanthttps://theduran.locals.com/post/5966631/the-war-the-neocons-have-been-looking-for-twelve-us-air-force-f-22a-raptor-fifth-generation-fighter (sorry about the possible difficulty due to locals)
The airplanes are said to be 12 machines of F22 types at RAF Lakenheath air base UK, and going to to “Middle East”. These are pretty sexy flying machines. Not a defensive machine, a “stealthy” attack machine, ie possibly the sort of machine one might use in a sneak attack. Not that anybody will be ‘sprised.
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I have heard it said that Speaker Johnson has said that “if Iran attacks Israel the US will declare war on Iran”… Geewhiz, sorta let the kittly outada bag there ol’ pal, speaking of attack type flying machines. Only Congress can declare war. Not that it matters to them what the Constitution says, or any other law. What a bunch! Bombs away boys…and then what? Bombing never wins any war, cannons and infantry do…or sticks and stones.
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