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Mr P
ParticipantIt’s unclear who shot whom. Maybe the kid hit the target, maybe he did not even fire. Larry and I agree that the story is false, because it cannot be true. This rather odious video> (13 minutes) https://youtu.be/2vp7o6cJmbI (Trump shooter and DHS trained at same PA gun range – YouTube) makes claims of the darkest kind… such as the kid was a pretty good shot, was on the rifle team, and trained with DHS at the same range, and had three off-shore accounts. Clearly, the kid was set up to be the patsy…like Sirhan, like Oswald. Naturally I am shocked! Shocked I say! to see a state run plot to murder a fella they’ve been try to rid themselves of for many years. Such things are not in the American tradition, are they 😉 ? Oh, wait! – I forgot, they are pretty basic among
nazis, er,pirates, er,mafia, er, Yankees.Most probable is that he warmed up at the range under tutelage of a team and was sent as a torpedo to his own murder, and dramatic death. There must always be a patsy. Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest? (Henry II) and The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves, that we are underlings. (Barry?, Big MIke? The bloody witch?)
When the story keeps changing something’s wrong with the story is cop science 101. btw Ray said he thinks it was a team effort, and so did, I think, Garland. So do I.
Matter of months... it depends. With practice most people can, if they are encouraged and the ammo and weapon and range access are supplied. Practice an hour, twice a day I’d say, for 4-6 months, always with the same gun and match-grade ammo. His rifle team time at school, if the video is valid, was almost surely with .22 rifles, bull-barrel bolt action single shot target rifles such as Model 52 Winchester, if memory holds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Model_52 In my youth the ROTC and the NRA loaned these to clubs. I see they’re superseded by newer weapons, though still .22’s The mooted AR is another kettle o’ fish. I think the kid did shoot at Orange man, and sorta missed. The first round tends to be wild anyway, and you don’t get a second shot worth taking. Many hunters don’t even try. As a kid worked with a professional hunter who used a .222 through a barrel he himself made to fit a cheap single shot shot-gun frame. When I suggested that was a limitation he laughed. I saw him kill a moving coyote at 300 yards with that gun. He was 65 years old at that time.
To be fair about hunters though, a wounded animal is generally killed with a second shot, after careful aim, there’s plenty of time, it’s simply relief of suffering, charity. More deer are killed with .22’s than any other weapon, btw, though it’s generally illegal, it’s quiet.
ParticipantYes, dear emersonreturn, it’s getting close to midnight, and some midnight, or just before, everything will change, so Mrs P said a voice told her not very long ago…and she’s a spooky, spiritual gal, almost always right.
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But I want to speak about something Larry Johnson addressed. https://youtu.be/YU0k2bahUyg which is a bifurcated topic, two topic, video. He begins with commentary about the Biden announcement and a brief discussion about the affair of the Democratic rodeo. Seems well-reasoned.
Then he discusses rifle shooting with a weapon of his own, one very similar to the weapon the dead kid used at Butler, and equipped with similar optics, and what it took for him to approximate the shots the kid took, but at half the distance, ie 70 yards. Though I have a quibble with Larry, I agree…the key point being that the story about the kid simply is not, cannot be, true.
The essence is that the kid must have had practice aforehand. With this I agree completely. The kid was familiar with the rifle, and had it sighted in, “zeroed” for 140 yards. That strongly implies a handler and time, recent time, with that weapon at 140 yards.
My quibble is that in precise shooting the gun performs differently on the first shot than it does on subsequent shots. Because of this the shooter doing competition shooting fires a “warm-up round”, and then undertakes to hit the center of his target. The kid must have, imho, already fired his “warm up” round, and almost surely the same day, proximate in time. Where? Where was the kid prior to arrival at his position?
A lesser quibble is that rifles with optics get out of zero in transport. I am surprised that it stayed in zero. It’s remarkable that the kid’s weapon was zeroed for 140 yards too – generally one zeroes for 100 yards, sometimes 200, it depends on the intent and the caliber – which implies that he didn’t just do the act, he knew the range in advance. There was advance planning. And help.
In small-bore competition as a young man, well, at 16, at a 100 meters in 4 position shooting I won a national match, with “iron sights” against hundreds of adults in an “any sight” match…those men had costly fancy optics. Iron sights stay zeroed pretty well, optics don’t. As a kid I qualified as “NRA Distinguished Rifleman” and was the “dean” of several rifle teams, including ROTC teams. The choice of using optics itself puzzles me. Even at my age, though I never anymore have any truck with guns, if given the choice of optics or iron at 140 yards, I’d chose iron. Anyway, I count my opinion as worthwhile.
Another smaller quibble is the choice of weapon itself. His rifle was simi-automatic. These are never as accurate as bolt-action weapons, the bullet gets banged around and slightly deformed in operation, and the cycling of the action tends to affect the cartridges remaining. A “better” choice would have been a .222 Remington bolt action with iron sights. Better still a .30 caliber Springfield. Or an 8mm Mauser. If you don’t hit the target on the first shot you’re done, the remaining shots are almost guaranteed to miss.
Withal, listen to Brother Larry, he’s right.
Participanthttps://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1815080881981190320/photo/1
dunno, seems real. Bloody Hillary next up…? Or News-o-me the creep? see Corbett on the fubared hit on Orange…
Participantand more airplanes> https://x.com/AlexBarnicoat_/status/1814944187130802291?t=Rv_jYUMTZtySsbMf-cwNJg&s=19
@AlexBarnicoat_
BRITAIN AT WAR It is confirmed that British PM Keir Starmer authorised British Fighter Jets to escort Israeli Fighter Jets to bomb Yemen yesterday. These strikes are confirmed to have killed at least three civilians and injured another 87 more. Why did he do this?ParticipantRecalling Bob Newhart… speaking of airplanes… 😉
…and taking into account the above remark> “Earlier, the Russian Ministry of Defense reported that MiG-29 and MiG-31 fighters were scrambled to prevent US Air Force B-52N bombers from violating the border over the Barents Sea.
[these are not the same set of B-52s. Finland’s eastern airspace is spitting distance from St. Petersburg. Demented USUK is engaging in rank impotent nuclear sabre-rattling]”(I wonder what “N” stands for…)
archive> https://web.archive.org/web/20150202052322/http://www.aer.ita.br/~bmattos/mundo/bomb/b52.htm
Sabre rattling? Probably. But the Ruskies aren’t rattling…they’re going someplace, with deliveries.
Forwarded from Kalibrated (Scott)
There are now 18 Tu-95 stationed at the Engels-2 and Olenya airfields with heavy movement for days. Strategic comms are turning on frequently. I think a very large strike is coming.ParticipantWith a massive bucket of salt> Hall-the Fink claims: “NATO aircraft entering Ukraine air-space from Poland”
and other stuff.
how about those precious bodily fluids?
(longlongtimeago I saw a B52 crash at Mather AFB, made bigbigfire)
ParticipantNote: Mazut is a heavy, low-quality fuel oil that is derived from the residue left after the distillation of crude oil. ie low volatile, high carbon. It can be “cracked” to make light products and “petroleum coke”, or used directly as boiler fuel, ie what they used to call “bunker oil” or “bunker C”, in the steam-ships and power plants boilers. It’s a high energy fuel, lotsa carbons.
ParticipantComrade Corbett has some stuff!
(his show notes are always veeerrryinnarestink)
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(iirc the most amazing previously unknown Ace Elevator beat out the well establish and primo experts company…this was headline news in the industry)
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ParticipantWe will all be in the same pickle, lots of class solidarity will form, recalling Joti Brar’s remarks with brother Garland. If this stuff is a deliberate “live excercise” and things really crash, they’ll have sown the wind…and everyone knows what happens then.
On the road in a big storm several eons ago the electric power went out for days, cash was useless, no transaction could happen, no fuel could be pumped. By candle-light the road-houses simply gave away free food and drinks, motels let us stay for free. It’ll be fun. Maybe not for the young people who expect electronic gadgets to work though… they’ll have withdrawal anxiety. I warned my kids over and over (now 45 years old and dumb as hammers). They don’t listen. They believe the
“science”bullchit. 9 meals to riot, people say.Participant“Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war.” By refueling the nazi airplanes the target list is vastly expanded. BFT (big fat target) US base is just across the Red Sea…
ParticipantSmoothie’s got some commentary about the origins of the nazi delusions.
https://dan-news.ru/stories/peresmotr-istorii–eto-strategija-zapada-dlja-podgotovki-k-vojne/
(use translatotron – really, it reveals that the nazi “spirits” inhabited the Yank Army brass…and still do…, do read the entire article)
“military history” in the US has been rewritten and what is taught, with some minor tweaking, in West’s military academies. Then, do not be surprised with Pentagon’s “planning” which delivered in 404 one disaster after another for VSU and an army of its “supporters” from primarily NATO countries. We can add to 404, also, the miscalculations in zone Middle East, calling Persia and Yemen, hello…
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Speaking of nazi delusions creating failure, and the spawn of That Great Nazi (Once they go up who cares where they come down!) von Braun
https://futurism.com/the-byte/boeing-thruster-issue-stranded-astronauts (They’re stuck in spaceland, Boeing’s little problems like faking certification on airplanes and avoiding asking awkward questions that might cost money, that ain’t the way way to fly.)
follow also the self-serving excuses that of course avoid speaking of how no one thought about over-heating the thrusters. Science and real engineering is always centered on doubt, on “what if questions”… (Feynman, for example, was a real scientist, and he asked such questions all the time, so do competent fishermen)
Tom Lehrer von Braun song> https://youtu.be/TjDEsGZLbio
So let’s have a great big star-spangled cheer for Yankee know-how!
(I have been told that Werner was on a personal level a very nice fella, by two fellas who worked for him, but his nazi party membership card is on-line)
ParticipantEarlier this week, anniversary of Test #1 https://youtu.be/zb9k5LcNWJM 16 July 1945, big bang @ zone Jornada del Muerto (“Dead Man’s Journey” or “Route of the Dead Man”) Many US persons, poor Mormons, mostly, lived downwind. People got sick and died, babies were still-born. Hot spots are all over the US West zone to this day from the tests. Place was well-named. Many hot spots are unknown to the people that live and range livestock on them, according to a DoE geologist I met near Truth or Consequences, a town not too far from the test site. Happy birthday Mr Bomb. Doancha miss the good ol’ days?
ParticipantWhere’s the money, Lebowski!
Beta test or live excercise, what does coincidence theory suggest? What Sigma? Funny money and rackets are twins.
“Global economy crippled by digital pandemic: IT outage could last days
It remains unclear how widespread the payroll disruption is, but Melanie Pizzey, the founder and CEO of GPA said her company had received complaints from a number of clients who couldn’t access their payroll software because of the outage.
Payroll systems typically need to be notified of any issues that would stop direct deposits from going through at least two days before the payday for the issue to be resolved in time.
Depending on the length of this outage, it could have very serious implications for businesses across the nation, particularly those who process payroll on a weekly basis,” Pizzey said.
‘Furthermore, we could see a backlog with regard to processing payrolls for the coming month end which may delay employees from receiving their monthly wage.'”
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George Kurtz, the CEO of the software company whose bug caused the issues, said it could be weeks before systems are back up and running.
Meanwhile, issues with Visa and Zelle are not allowing people to make or receive payments, and there’s no estimated timeframe for when they’ll be back up and running.
The outage first started with Microsoft, leading many people to believe that the company’s systems were at fault, but within hours, Crowdstrike admitted that an update to its ‘Falcon Sensor,’ which searches for viruses and malicious attacks was to blame…….”
https://theduran.locals.com/member/dear_stormy
ParticipantI remember when they jammed Radio Moscow……”Having tested the new systems earlier this year, the US will deploy 11 of 24 Remote Modular Terminal jammers in the coming months, the USSF told the newspaper. They are all expected to be in place by the end of the year. The jammers are not meant to protect US satellites from jamming; rather, they aim to “counter adversary satellite communications capabilities,” the USSF said.”
https://www.rt.com/news/601374-us-jamming-chinese-russian-satellites/
Participant20 July affair images (which probably would have led to a US Nazi “deal”, what did Dulles know?) https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-entity_search/1528499/921570785/S600xU_2x
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