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Mr P
ParticipantYes. And note “debacle” is probably the precise choice of word…breaking of ice in river in Spring.
(image from camp ash can…1945, with all the gang…for a time they even had their pistols returned…imagine that!)I think phase change in offing. After very well argued voir dire with Chef…and certain imaginative undertakings, Poor devil… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_That_Tune (In longpast Mr P has been asked questions very persuasively by certain agents of State. . . it’s not rocket science. Chef make booboo.)
All of this process, whatever twists and turns and surprises it presents, seems to me a natural thing, a Gleichschaltung prerequisite to serious combat war. Note the German nazis hijacked this term from engineering, properly “alignments” and/or “coordination” of electrical (or socially, people and institutions) for a single purpose. I do wonder that our traitor has served a function essential to the process, and speculate that had verrater not volunteered himself, it would have been far worse…and even think that then absent verrater, it would have become necessary to create one. Fate may have blessed us all.
Many Thanks for video… Brother Ray and the fellas! Los Tres Amigos!
……………………..meantime Anoxia homeless volk multiply, a lot.
I keep thinking of film “The Producers”… It’s Spring time for….
Right.
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Mr P
ParticipantI think it’s significant, and implies a good prospect, that AHH and I tend to agree. “Deep-sixing the AfD may bring most unfortunate fruits – in conjunction with collapsing QoL & economy, austerity, and lack of jobs and hope – it will birth frank fascism. A Strong Man will emerge”. Boosted into power by a response to violence, the Leader will follow along and use more of it. But does that mean Leader is crazy, or quisling?
Indeed, fascist “christ” in zone G…very probable. But this man on white horse may make pragmatic and reasoned accommodation to reality. Probably not, but maybe. Not all fascist are delusional, many are merely immoral opportunists. And from small sometimes grows big good. Depends on soil and husbandry. Germany must come to terms, one way or another. “Must” like glacier must.
Speaking of Terms> In a sense, I think the Kennedy is an attempt to save his class, as well as what’s left, speaking of man on white horse.
The propaganda about Rus fiddling the politics in USA was mostly bs, look for that to change. As in W3 calls for Stieglitz and more, as well as Comrade Poseidon. It’s a League Game, after all. Petroprice rise usa? Bear in woods. I note big shift in propaganda already underway. Target zone nazi has moved to North America, I laid bet.
Also note schadenfreude in Zone South. That will weaken the victory. Oh well…
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Mr P
ParticipantThat’s a highly appropriate picture of the Luk. Good!
Well, after more reading and consideration, especially in light of things said by Mr “b” @ MoA, it seems the Der Chef definitely went a little funny in the head…recalling Great President Merton Muffley in dialogue with Primer Kizzoff. Like Burroughs said, can’t beat the mark inside. Evidently a game of let rabbit run, and it worked.
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Der AfD and the nazis dance toward the good ol’ times. https://archive.ph/PPXgw
From the German text>
“Not only the district council election of Sonneberg, but also the soaring poll numbers of the AfD on the Sunday question are causing panic among the old parties. In this context, Interior Minister Faeser is obviously planning an AfD ban procedure and has indirectly asked Haldenwang to give her a template for this.
In the Sunday question, the AfD achieved poll results at a record high and the first AfD district council was elected in Sonneberg. There is panic among the old parties. But instead of thinking about a change of strategy in dealing with a democratically elected party, one resorts to those concepts that have already proved ineffective, and is firmly determined to intensify them even more.
[this is] Contempt for democracy against the will of the voters.”ending> “Schreiben dieses Artikels durch den Kopf ging, ich aber niemals behaupten würde: Parteien verbieten ist sowas von 1933. Und anscheinend typisch sozialistisch – ob national oder international ist dann nebensächlich“” Yes, rather like the Hitler period… (I wouldn’t have said “socialist”, but the author is constrained in his choices by German law against free speech, or whatever…)
Ok…so? Note that outlawing a party is not an event, but a nearly endless process, and one with several factors…and the process? Well, “lawfare” gives away to other forms, aheem. One unintended consequence will be more exodus to points East. Another expected manifestation will be Gladio 2.x and a charming antigladio 2.x prime. Bluntly. domestic violence. Noting that generally most violence traces to States, not citizen clubs. After all, the exclusive right to violence is said to define the Nth State, and the State has copsandarmiesandguns.
In the end Germany makes good treaty with Russia. The Office for the Protection of the Constitution can’t change the drang nach Rus…they can only screw it up for a while.
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I get the idea, reading over the recent days, that in Kremlin big decision is underway. Their logic being based on the idea, the (final?) determination, that Russia cannot abide the present bellicose and obdurate, and dangerous character of the US State’s behaviors and plans. Thus “target” lies not so much in Europe. The Strategic Goal may be undergoing re-evaluation, as well as, obviously, the means by which this Goal might be best achieved. “Poseidon” machine being on the buffet, as well as economic and other less direct and more subtle means.
Let us ask, did the treasonplot, taken in its totality, amount to an attack on the Russian State? Did the plot threaten the existence of the Russian State? If it’s seen that way, would that not dictate a Policy Change? The unintended consequence and the indirect strategy are a pair. “West HQ” just drew the rifle sights upon themselves, I imagine. How stupid.
I’ll lay a bet that nazibaseHQ/West has become the prime target as a result of the treason plot. That we shall soon see a correction of Strategy in accord with modified goal. I have no idea as to how this new Strategy will appear. Well, yeah, I do… just don’t want to say. It can go well, or not well. An indirect strategy crafted to induce a symmetrical treason plot, with suitable modifications and in concert with internal destabilization (already underway) might be a general path.
Putin once said that as a young fella in KGB “he believed” in the Soviet ideological “truths”, the “soviet church” if you will. I often think about that.
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Mr P
ParticipantI take it that you’ve come to opinion Gospodin Prigozhin actually fell for the lucre and blandishments. Well, the best patsy is one that runs itself. It does begin to look like the fella did a bad…but maybe the gag’s not over yet. Good con games have layers and more than one purpose.
Yes, as Alex the Elder says, Germany. But Bismarck would have also said this. However, that was his Germany…this one is turning a trick. (the lurid stories about child prostitutes and chocolate and GI’s were ordinary in my time.) The character of Germany is now unknown, as she is in “switch bounce” or arcing condition. But the “delta P”, the “energy” latent in Germany, the grain and meat and coal…this is not enough…the geographic reality biases the conflict. I am sure Germany and Russia will make a good treaty, in the fullness of time. I do keep watch on their politics. Germany has always been a keystone. I think it still is…but ahgotkrautblood too…maybe I am not honest with myself about this.
Yeah, dearsweetinnocent Annalina was insulted. Mrs P spent time in television studios… (and the studios, and got mistaken for starlets, which she warn’t).
As I have pointed out, first use is a quaint concept. It already took place. And the stigma has morbid value… so I look for the subtle and indirect…and am thinking about “ecomcon” (sevendaysinmay) or rather satellites and especially cables…far less emotion…and recall that in zone west many are latent opposition. They’d be amused when richphucks panic..
I do hope everybody enjoyed the practical example of failure to maintain operational awareness…. Machine, like Moscow, do not believe in tears. My prejudice, bikes are an illustrative icon…of phuckaroundfindout. Once I calculated the minimum differential velocities necessary to produce death…about 5 mph. It varies… I guess the foregoing is metaphysical… oh well…one little screwup…and all the attaboys go poof!
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Mr P
ParticipantSudhi, the idea arises that the subtleties of human genetics tends to create such boy-men fighters as a response, or possibly to create, conflict…the idea being that proportionality and agency exist…that these fighters are rare in quiet times of prosperity and stability, and far less rare when they are needed. And do Rulers also add to this by long-term policies… Rulers always exploit the natural way, if they stay in power very long. And yes, the PMC or even a well crafted draft policy can easily channel fighters, and all the rest, into better outcomes. I am in favor of universal service for young men of all classes. A 100% draft. Thus the experienced officer-instructors easily identify the several types – and everybody gets a good sweaty 18 months of exercise and a sort of communist class leveling. BTW the safety training at the shooting range would be a fine place to observe the boys, with an eye to which should not be trusted…aheeem. And which were hopeless. Which are ordinary, which are exceptionally bright, and so forth. Of course in a nazi hegemon, it might be better if the draft was postponed until peace arises. I’m in theoretical mode here.
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We have Minister Shoigu and Minister Miera making plans…and a robust Kennedy, and missiles too. What wondrous rhymes hath this our time. (I mentioned this one-time claim before. The English edition vaporized, but not the Russian edition…it remains at Pravda.) 2012> Pravda, excerpt (machine trans) “With the full consent of the Cuban leadership, on May 11 of this year, our country not only resumed the operation of the radio-electronic center in Lourdes, but also deployed the latest mobile nuclear strategic missile systems “Oak”on the island. They didn’t want to do it in a good way, let them now slurp cabbage soup with bast shoes,” Putin said.”
Читайте больше на https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/ru-en.en.0545285f-649b2a84-03f201f0-74722d776562/https/www.pravda.ru/world/1123320-military_base/2023> In conditions when US has been carrying out illegal and illegitimate trade and economic blockade of Cuba for many decades, we are ready to help Island of Freedom and lend a hand to our Cuban friends – Shoigu. https://t.me/garlandnixon/410
Crises, rockets, camera! action! and Kennedy!
Oh how does a love affair manifest! Well, oil and other stuff…and old friends meet again. When does Russia take over Guantanamo from USN? The base is soon to be indefensible.

Stumpy said Meyer would have had him shot for taking a bet like mine on gitmo, but he covered the bet.
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Mr P
ParticipantWho indeed. And considering how these quislings will be instructed it’s informative to read the proffers of nazi opinion in source> https://archive.ph/RXiHx “what happens next? Our columnists weigh in” WP. Among the writers we find this> “Anyone planning a coup should read this first” and discover (gasp!) that Mister Naunihal Singh has been on the job studying how to do it. Follow money… Oh, I’m sorry, he studies why coups fail…not how to do it right. Right? The esteemed gentleman’s wiki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naunihal_Singh_(academic) Does “made man” mean anything? It just comes to mind…I’ve been rereading Faust…
Geewhiz, I do suppose that the Ruskie boffins have been reading right along.
I suspect the evident anger in VVP was genuine, and suppose this was because the plan called for zero bloodshed, and it went a bit wrong. Otherwise…well, refer back to the nazi opinions…these will feed back in heterodyne to nazi hq zone west. and feed even stranger delusions… and stranger gambits.
H Turner is now almost impossible to listen to… Statins? SSRI? Just speculation…
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Mr P
ParticipantKind of a ramble….
We are in close agreement, generally, and about AI, very close agreement, I think. Next time Norbert Wiener stops at the Dew Drop Inn we shall have to discuss the natural consequences of cybernetic creations. Imagining the intelligence of, say, a simple machine like a lever in concert with “Gork”…there the machine pushes Mr Gork to bias toward improvements in his intelligence. He may begin to discover trigonometry, in the fullness of Time… But at the other end of the spectrum? Universal stupidity? Ah suspicion that the cybernetic process might be represented as bell-shaped – with an ideal bracketed by idiots at each end. At the ends, Mr Gork cannot even count his own toes. In the center region? Quantum physics and mysteries of cryptographic mathematics, and radio and the applied crafts and science. Gee whiz, it’d be jus’ great if Brother Ted Kaczynski could engage with Brother Norbert…eh? Hey! There’s Steve Allen… If permitted to kibitz at the bar, I’d propose that the matter might be related to the causations underlying https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerkes%E2%80%93Dodson_law
I never did like the time and motion fellas…the Charley Taylor types. Recalling the guy I knew who worked on the line putting seats in Kaiser cars … They gave him 48 seconds to put in 12 bolts, he said… so he put in four, and threw the rest under the carpet. So much for the time and motion finks…
To survive, genuine civilizations are going to have to bring the AI (and the steam engine) to heel. Ted had some coruscations.
We’ve been blessed by a bounty of blueberries, and it’s great fun to watch the jays eye their berry, fly to pick it, and flutter back to peck out the juicybestbit, all the while keeping a weather eye on the cat…and us. Always leave gleaning for the poor, and the critters. I have myself heard Kansas farmers so speak. Charity as Law. Where it belongs.
We have a few wonderful roads not far from Anoxia…and I chanced to blunder into a gaggle of fellas riding their old time Bonneville TT160 bikes, they were headed over the hills to the sea on bikes built in the early 1960’s. Very nice fellas, and very pretty bikes…simple, elegant, frugal, and fast enough for any fool. Generally these are 50 horsepower bikes. Light, and nimble. Geewhiz… https://www.facebook.com/reel/912229326520960 (a practical example illustrating the importance of situational awareness) I think there’s still a bit of snow at the pass… long ride. no gas. no beer. Incentives can be important!
‘C’use ma humor… it was a pleasure to see the old bikes.
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Mr P
ParticipantIndeed Mr MKB writes a fine evaluation. Term snatched from crosstalk> coup du théâtre I like his last line> “It is a huge signal in advance to the “collective West” that nothing will be forgotten. ” Right. Nothing at all.
In method-acting, of course, the actor becomes the character, and with amateurs it’s best that they do not know their role, but act naturally… Oswald being an example. Of course the same is true for genuine criminals too – they don’t need to know they’re the hare and not the hound.
Seen as theater, I await the silent secret solos and the chorus . As MKB puts it> “…Prigozhin sing — sooner rather later — and the song will be transmitted live to the Kremlin. And that accounts for the great nervousness in Washington, which has raised the spectre of…” As off-stage we hear several volleys of rifle fire as the quisling cadres face fate sit in police interrogation cubicles…swirl fog…spectral ghosts hover and flit overhead…
It’d make a good play. It does too. Actually Gore Vidal would make it a novel with a TV series…
Speaking of crime> https://archive.ph/j6om4 “Women War Criminals: A Vital Cog in NATO’s Plans of World Conquest” This raises questions beyond the scope of the article. Perhaps I share with McGovern an abhorrence of cruel female persons, taking the implications of things he said about “bloody Gina”.
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Mr P
ParticipantBrother, you’ll recall Odysseus’ a-tappin’ his old bow, the bow that no suitor could string, or draw…and what did follow…eh? Telemachus and Athena and the slaughter, and even the sulfur to cleanse…and the sluts as well, like doves… Oh! How Heaven telegraphs, the obvious is there to see as fruit in the vendor’s cart … and the delusional forge ahead destined to their fate. https://youtu.be/P41gT4eicrE ( “Lebowski Mark it zero!” I never trusted the 1911…but it is a weapon with a terrible history…something to do with the Philippine Patriots and the US Marines…) It’s a League game…
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Mr P
ParticipantArticle I thought innarrestin’ “Artificially Stimulated Stupidity” https://www.aier.org/article/artificially-stimulated-stupidity/
Indeed, I think I’ve said here that the AI machines deconstruct perception to the loci of the proverbial campfire tales over beer, when nobody lies. Said, more or less. The delusional space expands… searchterm> “substack + artificially stimulated stupidity” Oh my goodness!
Sudhi’s Questions! Oh Yes Dear! Fine questions. Well conceived, with implications.
la guerre continue…
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Mr P
ParticipantYes…and I too am not sure. We’re peering into the wispy fogs. When dog is alone with wolves, dog becomes wolf, who can know? Under stress too, delusions, meds?, Mephisto’s blandishments, playing both sides…what happens next may clear the vision…such as wither goeth the intrepid Chef… Noting that codename “dentist” started nightwolve club that liquidated the western “outlaw” clubs, dentist was followed by “surgeon”, and so on…thus all the outlaws are brought to discipline…noting codename Chef. Yeah, it’s not much… But it would be very clever, and in the nature of KGB trained officer-spies, eh? Of course Chef is not Stierlitz , but… and free will may not be a factor for Chef. Wondering too, yes VVP does seem genuinely angry… but we don’t know why… Was this because of the shooting and deaths, because these were not in the plan? Or for the implied reasons, or for some set of things.
Totally non-sequitur> https://archive.ph/hs3VH The AVA, an article about Brother Ted.
“The Torment of Ted Kaczynski ‘62” AVA is a good paper, but very local. Stories have charm, sometimes. I feel a sympathy for Ted… I was luckier than he.
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Mr P
ParticipantI appreciate the good sense of “An elder cautioned patience: these were men built for War, they would preserve their mutual honor and carry the battle against even the fiercest enemy. And a Sword is not a flower nor a gentle farmer…” I have known men that were simply formed to be warriors, physically and by character. Many die young, as if formed to be disposable – often they’re rash and impulsive…which is dangerous.
Larry J has theory, and it may be more or less true. “Did Prigozhin scam his western handlers out of millions of dollars? Yevgeny does have a criminal past and is known for sticky fingers. Did he draw on his criminal past and fleece the British or the Americans? Could be a terrific story.” https://sonar21.com/russias-academy-award-winning-performance-for-best-coup-prigozhin-scores-best-actor/
If true, then acting abilities of VVP have improved more than I had estimated.
A gentleman barrister that I read has another opinion. https://adeyinkamakinde.blogspot.com/2023/06/explaining-madness-of-prigozhins-mutiny.html
At the moment, anyway, Brother Johnson’s theory seems “best”…
If “Mr Stickyfingers” burned the western spies, well! Some say that Fidel burned the Dulles fellas… (I think he did, not that he did it for personal gain) Anyway, if the entire rodeo was an operation and a cover for movements, and if Prigozhin did scam them out of the swag, if so, there will be great stories ’round the fire at some dacha…
I think I fell for the con.
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Mr P
ParticipantI am sorry …of course not. Nothing is forgiven, nothing at all.
Oh! I was too subtle. The full recipe is “All is forgiven, nothing is forbidden, everything is permitted…now make a chitlist and call for hangman” The phrase is a cynical shorthand code for how a ruler discovers disloyalty. When it was introduced to me by cryptonazifella, who was a dedicated and good instructor, the examples given were, naturally, all about the terrible commies… he was, after all, a nazi. Scorpion principle in play. In corporate games I have enjoyed watching the “energy flow” from a dropped rumor, boredom and my shameful rascalist atavism. Of course I was secretly trying to find out how much I could bother the fascistkreeps before they fired me…a hobby long ago. Call that anthropological survey expeditionary mission to XYZ and Luckup…
Speaking of nazis> https://archive.is/cU1oa Barky’s bigbigplan to steal Crimea… just to recall the good ol’ daze.
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Mr P
ParticipantIn youth the technique now to hand was taught to me by a genuine German crypto nazi under rubrik “Let a thousand flower bloom together” as the method of discovering potential trouble-makers….the old liberation “all is forgiven” gag…
Let fishy run on line…attract big fishy…
VVP is angry though, betrayed, and angry with himself. He’s not much of an actor, though he’s has got better since the submarine fubar.
Calling Mister Sheeran, Mister Frank Sheeran…
Mr P
Participantroger. no sweat. fyi archive > https://archive.ph/m0gkm
I am, obviously illiterate – now back in morse and vacuum tubes I knew enough to make smoke…sometimes. Speaking of that, I have an antenna project…
I’m recalling Ricky Ricardo…Lucy Lucy Lucy! Yougotalottasplainin’todo… Like Burroughs said, the mark inside. Poor schmuck, now it’s a mater of statecraft and procedure…
The debriefing ought to be very interestink https://youtu.be/5g80ribCPj0
Pete! Whaddafella!
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