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  • in reply to: The Hearty Salon 23/07/2023 … Open Thread #16568
    Mr P
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    From previous but dovetails, this> “Belarussian mentality too? Like if they know the crazy Poles are about to suicide themselves??”

    RT showed just now Pres L and Pres P chatting about how Wagner is itchin’ to roll west to Warsaw, etc etc. No coincidences? Pres L is “holding ’em back” – it’s theater reality. Wager ? Bayonet principle. No seat. Recalling Uriah and David and the girl…

    Quoth amarynth at Chronicles “they believe in magic” Recalling that those slated for destruction… imho> PCP / symbol Pole delusion A chemical “model” phenylcyclohexyl piperidine  effect (sometimes, it is said)…story I know from 35 years ago> It amounts to a scene that one might honestly believe he’s drinking beer at Stumpy’s while in reality everybody sees him naked running down the median strip of the interstate highway. Interesting story, it seems to me to describe the most extreme degree of delusion. (and no, never!) Let this pretty trio describe our Polish Brethren.

    Let’s ask, whom do we observers judge now is most liable to be destroyed? And let us also ask whom do we judge to be of doubtful sanity? And of sanity?

    One of Granny’s sisters was in London during W2, in some minor job with the US and, being an attractive “flapper” grown to adulthood, and of a sportin’ disposition – well, she spoke highly of the Polish officers! Also spoke highly of the Blitz! She found it thrilling…well, so she said in the 1960’s.

    They may be ardent lovers…and does this not attend belief in magic/ Thence a tiny step to delusion and fantasy…and to “hi there Mephisto ol’ pal”

    I keep recalling film “White Tiger”. The interview in Hell with Herr H. It’s imho valid, more or less. How who why about this film itself…it was expensive.

    Of course the fight’s not over. The believe in magic. They’ll follow their fate.  Sometimes I imagine Russia as the psychologist that cures dangerous delusions.

    …………”wicked witch of west” on RT interview with K K…..good job an’ all, interesting to speculate as to agenda implied to exist at RT editorial dept. See content of interview… Nothing terribly heavy, just good sort of overview with historic context, such as may be done in a short chat.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/07/2023 … Open Thread #16549
    Mr P
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    Thank you kindly, Brother.

    The academy had advantages, as you may realize Mother and Father cottoned to those very advantages…and it meant inter alia, despite heavy schedules, at least schedules! And periods for family. It worked, but not very well. There are a few trades – US merchant marine officer Captain (tanker any tonnage any ocean!) – last I know – 6 months and a day “on”, the balance of the year “off”. He blew most of the “off” time with whores and coke… and he’s dead. He did have a great series of “off” adventures, and several stimulating divorces. The construction trades are actually rather fun, especially in the union trades – the major difference being union builds a pension, and scabbin’ don’t. Union jobs are safer too. That matters…a serious injury, a small fall – can fubar the entire rodeo… An occupational hazard for the trades is a variety of honey-traps…father or not if they know your name…and emergency exparte court orders for support issue like confetti here in homoliberalanstalt. I have advised the fellas to stop going to bars and move up in class – and socialize with proper ladies. Some have done, and it’s saved them grief and money! The Union Contract can be a warm secure blanket…and a shield.

    If I remember correctly, Mother was the sole “employee” for her surgeon father in a dusty Midwest  town. Ran the office, and I think his brothers and he were combined for a time…During the depression that was. They got by, but had to keep a large garden (!). As I once said, at 16 she was at Stanford…a runaway! And obediently returned when her father came out to Palo Alto and asked her please to do so. I have the idea that I know the story because she had come to doubt that choice. So I share it for memory.

    I had not really thought about the French youth and their motivation….in unworkable systems numerous simultaneous or near simultaneous “ignitions” tends to occur, so, with a shrug, I expect spontaneous  manifestations throughout westzone. Everyone with power will try to exploit or stimulate or direct this in their desired ways, and these disparate efforts will produce a vector sum nobody desired – so I assume.

    Corbett on Rockefeller speaks to the medicine take-over the art and rule it- plot, seems congruent, iirc, with your description. The cryptonazifinks turned art into pornography,compassion into icy cunning, love to hate…and see evil as good…recalling the classical quote. I did take on some mortgage debt, longtimeago…but weuns cotton to pay cash or do without. Quakercussidness? Caution…an’ shunning usury.

    The hate felt toward Rus by westzone, this to me is a claim unsupported by memory. I always liked the Ruskies…and remember a rogue white Russian neighbor, obviously a genteel officer of Imperial Russian Army, abroad and engaged in the crimes of his class and trade… Neat fella. He went poof one day and was never seen again… no kidding. Looking back…weeeel…https://youtu.be/w-N_z6-T2CM    Yeah, so I think. Anyway the idea that west hates east – well, I can see that’s where the easy loot resides, but ordinary multitudes do not lust for the Russian treasures – people say to me that they see Putin as a good Russian leader, good for Russia, but that they don’t care a whit for Russia one way or t’other.  I don’t doube the claims, but they must apply to some other “demographic” than that in which we reside.

    Enough! Sun’s up and do some work! Later…movieposter MV

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/07/2023 … Open Thread #16516
    Mr P
    Participant

    Great Cartoons!

    The eight hour day was a reaction by labor, so that families might exist and read and children raised decently in literacy and health…the nazis responded with fascist gangs of hired thugs & machine guns and gasoline. Labor’s Untold Story…https://archive.org/details/laborsuntoldstor00boye  The 8 hour day is going away…

    Running construction involves schedules…and sometime such jobs as 9 months of 12 (which means more like 14 for the men) hour days with no time off. In shorter schedules it can be, and I have done, 40 continuous hours in freezing rain, or 100 hour weeks. Your situation was very poorly paid. Way worserthanmine! After a few years of being abused, and compromises due to family responsibilities, I went with the union…and had some pretty nice years in my 40’s and 50’s, and in the 60’s too…sometimes running the work, sometimes just a “hand”. Part of the fair pay, or almost fair pay, was because multimilliondollar fubars happen when the nazis hire scabs. After those the competent fellas get paid to do the job over and get it right! It was fun to skin the fascist finks. You get to say stuff sometimes. Such as “I don’t give a phuck who you are (finger in chest with contact!) get the phuck outta my engine room right now!” Fine fun! My favorite phrase was “Is this your signature?” Generally after that the job goes to cost-plus…

    I much prefer being just a hand. The money is almost the same, and the liabilities quite modest. To keep competent men contractors usually pay over union scale and often provide a work truck and a credit card…and 100% of the usage is “work related”. Of course they’ll call you at midnight…and you better show up! 2 or 3 hundred grand was there for anybody that wanted the work… More than I wanted.

    My sympathies lie with the old left, as I have said, and that view inclines me to see things as evolving toward a socialist peace at some future plateau…see this as inevitable.

    But seriously, an interesting interview with the Kennedy and Col Mac… The diffidence Mac shows to Mr K struck me hard. He spoke as to a superior. https://youtu.be/gaBX3Iwi5Jw  Yeah. Subtle. But I hear it as a sort of brief to the boss.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/07/2023 … Open Thread #16491
    Mr P
    Participant

    nazi ritual

    Just a bit of some rascal’s art work, right?

    But set art aside…and note that RT news people on air misunderstand the NATO treaty….RT needs to commission perhaps a “special investigation documentary” on the Treaty, its background and the cryptonazis, and open nazis, who peopleds this device. and what the several articles actually mean, which isn’t what RT has been saying.

    (amarynth, dear, if you want it gone, then please remove the art work, it’s perhaps too brutally true)

     

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/07/2023 … Open Thread #16483
    Mr P
    Participant

    Yes…”this merciless regime…” and dropping off. Often alcohol and pharmaceutical dopes as well, they go nuts. (moderate work does bring freedom… ) Happens just now, to-day, I met a recently retired fire captain from a town in Arizona…@ the Dewdrop Grocery and Tesla Charge Station… he too really doesn’t know what to do…but he’s a responsible fella and will last long past his 62…on the way to the Sea @ Carmel, he said. Maybe buy a house…he’s well fixed. And fire captain is not a constant load…Interesting he agreed that the regime is fascist…which is a concession from a fella of his class. His age and memories helped, and he was educated. The trades and crafts allowed me to avoid “elastic limits upon the corpus and soul”…if one views the mortal coil as a dynamic structure running in at least 4 dimensions then one may decide to avoid long periods of stress. “Exceeding elastic limits” might be something an engineer moonlighting as coroner might write as cause of death. Just my general principle for many years – work hard for a time, then play for a time. I used to aim for 1200 hours per year…which, given the nature of the trades, permitted play about half the time. For a time we kept a 26 foot sailboat. Most of my cohort are dead. They worked too hard too long with the wrong things. Beyond arthritis and hair loss… well, still pretty fit. It seems to have been a valid policy or general principle. Excess in moderation in various balancing ways. Speaking of combat, er, stress, I note the subtle indication of concussion in one of the reporters on RT _ fella’s been under shelling too long…it shows in speech and face and eyes. A few times I have experienced close up blast from a 45milimeter cannon and an explosion or two. I really really did not like it. These were enough of blast concussion to last me a lifetime. Alas! Spelling! Murad Gazdiev needs a break, imho.

    Jus’ ’bout nap-time amigos… maybe tomorrow go a fishin’. The river bass like sardine bait. I am a very poor and unskilled fisherman. But you meet nice people…

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/07/2023 … Open Thread #16467
    Mr P
    Participant

    Well, not with red pencil and note-taking, but I read Lausanne as scan… I did not note any expiration date or period.

    Of course I also read the wiki and followed to this>  ” It has been claimed in civil and formal circles that the Treaty of Lausanne will expire in 2023. According to the conspiracy theory, Turkey is forbidden to mine its natural resources (such as boron and petroleum) due to the “secret articles” of the treaty; therefore, Turkey will rapidly become a developed country by mining and exporting its resources once the treaty expires.[20]”

    Calling I F Stone… now that it’s been denied…

    Recalling “not one inch…”

    It doesn’t matter what the Treaties say…they simply make up lies as they go… Maybe there was deal. Much of the meat of the Treaty deals with money, aheeem…

    When Twain quipped “whisky’s fer drinkin’ and water’s for fighting over” it may have been true in gold-rush California… but pirates fight over money, loot, as a basic activity, mostly in secret.

    The practical matter is that Ruskie owns the Black Sea. It does come to mind that there may possibly be a rapid increase in the excavation of a new channel…if the nazis use nuclear method…https://interestingengineering.com/culture/us-almost-blasted-canal-nukes (note the date of the article…and what that implies.) One of my youthful cohort went to the Army and became a bomb officer for excavations. We chatted at a dinner about 1980 about the “charges”. Less than oil drum size was my impression. Alas, he’s dead already…

    They’ll just say what they like about Treaties…

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/07/2023 … Open Thread #16463
    Mr P
    Participant

    AHH> “Montreax may expire…” (!!!!!) Now my senses all aroused…Father would if by magic to send us his thought, give forth extemporaneously a legal brief on this Treaty. I have vague recollection of being perhaps 4 years old by the fire’s hearth going over maps while he explained the critical importance of the strait. His area of focus was International Law. After Magna Carta from Mother, his was perhaps my first law lecture, such as it was. But to aroused> Now I shall follow the scent.

    The Brit, or nazi, if you like, view, no doubt, will follow the time-tested principle of “the Law is whatever the Judge says it is.” and claim, whatever logic and Law dictate, that the Treaty does not apply.strait DThey say that the foreign office would find the right judge. They do have a fine records of so doing.

    Was fubar in W1 not enough for the pirate raiders? “Distinguished British historians, including Basil Liddell Hart, have stated that had the campaign been carried to a successful conclusion, the war would have shortened.” Right. When, dear Basil, did it end?

    There was a naval exercise @ Constanta Romania… Whatwegunnado now? may be a matter for nazis to decide between endless rushing on freebase coke…buttressed, no doubt, with a stiff backbone of pervitin. Recently Macgregor spoke to a Swedish naif of good disposition in re NATO and the US Command Structure, opining that the US structure was formed to employ generals and feed, well, you know… but that it was incapable of war. By structure, I believe, as well as resources and defective policies.

    ………………….

    BBC said Iraq affray Swedish provocations “small fire” and went on to some distraction, and nothing about this psychop is seen on site…which says it is ! Cute. So one “plan B” is to provoke emotion among the believers, “rumble the fractious ungrateful savages in the rebellious colonies.” Now, for Pittsburgh PA…. I can’t imagine another election season in USA… plan B….

    ………….BTW I agree with everything about the hot weather tactic. Chinese people say to drink warm water, I have read. Simple sugars and alcohol are not beneficial, of course. We arrange the day to follow the pattern, knock off work about noon, nap/read/fan. We have also a big AC, Mrs P favors that, I less so… When dear amarynth spoke of the condensate wetting things… well, this big house AC machine inhabits to loci, one inside, one outside. The inside evaporative machinery of course precipitates water, and there’s a drain pipe through the wall. This pipe, however, clogged… and insidiously wetness wicked up through hundreds of books. Most we saved, but the damages are forever. This drain circuit got modified so that I can in passing give a puff into a section of hose to sense any clogging. I mean to build an outside shower… But in the more simple way of things, a plastic “solar shower” thing hung in the sun or shade is very welcome. We lived that way for years, more or less.  Oh, thinking back to Anita’s rice dish…perhaps some bits too of mutton. Longtimeago.

    Best! P

     

     

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/07/2023 … Open Thread #16428
    Mr P
    Participant

    AHH, Hal’s difficult – a bit boring, and hysterical. Syntax in English tends to produce “either or”, whilst often it’s not an “or” but an “add” in reality and logic. Being a bit like Willy Loman in my eye, as agent infiltrators are salesman, selling themselves. Seriously, being an agent might be fun for a young fellas, but for Hal it’s a horror. The affray? He said there was an ongoing series of missiles and a multitude of flying machines a-launching more. Big Ruskie counter-counter-counter-counter attack… BBC about a hours ago claimed a fuel tank got hit at Sevastopol…they tell some appalling lies, which are interesting as they tell agenda, but mostly they deceive via distraction. BBC more boring than Hal. Better to play “chase” with the dog. Hal did say he was surprised that DC was still there. A provocateur? So I assume. Also nuts from stress he cannot deal with. Health, engagement, realizing no longer young… loneliness, estrangement – Marx wrote about estrangement. Hal has my sympathy.

    Speaking of whom, not to improperly conflate Hal with a dog…well, inevitably one dog is smarter than the other. Quicker. They both eventually solve their doggy problems. Smart dog learns more words faster. Not quick dog learns and naturally lags. Big surprise! After several years…the dogs displayed a sudden almost step-function rapid increase in cooperative action, helping one another in interactions and goals, acting as a committee. This is probably something most people have known for many thousands of years. So? A “scientific” observation of this in a lab would be very difficult… Science then revealed to have blind spots. Automisdirection. Pirsig skated close to this observation on his bike trip. The dog committee tends to want dialogue dealing with food and furry garden critters, pack comfort snuggles belly rubs, and rather astonishingly, when one dog is being bothered by a cat, the other will “intervene”. All raised together nearly since birth, the racial antipathy ‘tween canine and feline is perhaps latent, but we have never seen any display of this, rather they intervene as they would with a puppy. A natural science, if you like. Getting on a 10 year 24-7 experiment. Most recently, dinner in their dishes, one dog not present, ignoring chow, hungry present dog went to door and gave glance-stare at human. Ok door open. Enter missing dog and they both had their repast as one. Not so egalitarian as to share the actual dishes though. Anyway, altruism? Can we say that dogs exhibit communism with canine characteristics?

    Solar influence> deeper than radiation, I suspect we both suspect. See searchterm “galactic current sheet” Earth may be seen as an element in a vast vacuum tube with wild magnetic plasma flows. There must be a multitude of subtle effects on the systems where the pressures rise and chemical reactions go fast. The solar current sheet and solar behavior is said to control the polarity of the compass… beyond my technical background but the general idea seems plausible. BTW we are supposed to get a bit of a hit with CME to-day. I wonder what changes in weather and climate may attend the globe leaving one current and entering another… and doubt that climate change is caused by bovine flatulence. Rather, since the climate is changing, “let’s tell everybody that it’s their fault and cheat the unworthy of their birthrights.” If polarity of magnetic field flips, seasonal patterns of migrations will presumably be badly disrupted.

    Best! P

     

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/07/2023 … Open Thread #16417
    Mr P
    Participant

    Funny, about 3 am local I often walk in the garden and stand, watching the celestial dome, and so I was to-day, an’ imaging 5,000 years ago in some Eurasian garden. The distant barking, the distant rooster, the “trinkles” of water… not so different, and totally different. We can see the milky way fairly well, and both before dawn and after nightfall we can see, faintly, satellites during their illumination, presumably observation machinery. They move fast, so low altitude polar orbits. My hunch is that astrology is a complex of scrying – and scrying may couple to spooky action…I once knew a psychologist gal who gave it up for astrology. It worked about as well, maybe better. I know she told my fortune accurately in 1969 – it came true.

    Speaking of Stars. Joan Rivers and the perverts…evidently, ostensibly, it warn’t and ain’t jus’ dear old Hunter>

    (this is old stuff, new to me.)

    From transcript> “…senator Obama exited the limousine with 200 $50 which was provided to him by me
    6:34
    returned a short while later with an eight ball of cocaine which he gave to me I did ingest a couple of lines of
    6:41
    cocaine and shortly thereafter senator Obama produced a glass cylinder pipe and packet of crack cocaine from his pocket
    6:47
    Obama then smoked the crack cocaine I performed…”

    Well, you get the idea..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QK0eGp3N6A (note, this was some time ago…and one may speak to the rules in rhetoric of credibility – the cat’s credible)

    Different guy> flogging his book> https://archive.ph/GrIQK (Unmasking Obama)

    ………..

    No wonder they’re delusional. When the dealers get hooked on their own stuff, they crash…but it takes a bit of time. What was sortasecret now presents as a farce. Foreshadowing in life and literature. Having buggered everything in sight they go on to bugger the globe. compulsive fornicators? 😉 Drugs and libido… dangerous ice.

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    Those numerous Canadian forestarsonevent> smoke> is this a contrived misc en scene leading up to when the nazis “put something in the water”, so to say? I am recalling the drugged up color revolution gags…the BLMwhatever staged riots… and more. Vague hunch. It does look like the USA, well, when ship about to capsize she rides easy, then rolls over. Crack propagation teaches the same lesson. Nazis use “crowd control”… long time to next ppe (phony phuckin election)  The RT film on 404 as drug experiment and the use of drugs in crowd manipulation shocked me, ’cause it clicks. Duh!

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    “Rifle-Sights Memo”, “RSM” It does seem to have been something along those lines. They say all sorts of Ruskie “technical military agency” afoot. Nice weather for it.

    Poor Hal Turner, warts an’ all, claimed all sorts of enhancements to the affray 404. He’d make a good subject to characterize in a play, I think. stella

    Back to anthology Heinrich Boll, stories about, well, the war in USSR, in many of the same places in 404… very cute.

    …..g’nite. Friends.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/07/2023 … Open Thread #16303
    Mr P
    Participant

    Political Telegraphics>

    As with the picture of misc en scene > the Sultan, the Czar, and Catherine, so also the choice to present a story, this itself tells a hint, at least, about the designs of the publisher. In this line of thought the RT transmissions of special dope testing in zone 404 and elsewhere..https://www.rt.com/shows/documentary/579709-ukraine-drug-tests-soldiers/    This choice seems to imply an “official not official) statement> “Bear Knows, and he’s going to make something of it” would be my guess.

    Now then. Is there also the faint implication that similar funny business is not going on all over zonewest? I didn’t detect it. Rather they present specific evidence that it did, no reason why it might have stopped, and leave the viewer to the QED jump off of “Duh!” Homer would do a face-palm “Duh!” Of course Smallville is screwy, they’re subjects in an experiment…thoughts along such lines might come to Homer.

    Ooppps! Cop radio tells of another overdose… several times a day @ zone Anoxia…mind you the radio covers lots more than a mere village.

    Madness! It’s the way of west… And btw the docu is both horrible and important as it hauls in the revolutionracket. IMHO the thesis about dopedup crowds is solid. Moreover, in zone usa broadcast “legacy” media flog all sorts of silly dopeystuff, as do the medicos, even hospital staff…interestingly chatted with a licensed pharmacist and mentioned IUPAC, assuming she’d be familiar with the title… “huh?” Upon a brief dialogue it came to light that she had never, ever, not once, taken a chemistry class. Thus the blind dispense, what? How could they know, or even be held to account? Nice gal, too. I gave her the IUPAC handbook with a ribbon tied to it…1958 edition…I had a spare. I wonder if it did any good.

    Best! P

     

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/07/2023 … Open Thread #16272
    Mr P
    Participant

    Ah! Well, yes….and retribution? Neh… The defeat of an opponent is almost always by indirect means. There is no emotional quality in the machine of conflict, rather it, feelings, tears, these come as a cloak. In the sad example, yes of course our dear little pathetic Mister Z can sing songs. However, as I have previously said, he’d better decide soon and head off to Mother, elsewise maybe the “retirement plan”…like John “Handsome Johnny” Roselli… War, least of all, believes in tears.

    I wonder about heavenly retribution, mechanisms of this, and justice, we discussed Sodom event and guilt and daddy Abe. 10%…and all of that.

    I shall shrug and say FA>FO is the way the universe is…magicman says so, so it is. I suppose I am resigned to live within a tautological construct, but the blood is real.

    Public Trials would be nice. Meantime> https://youtu.be/o9Moe5mIRyM  Now then recall the records Comrade Kaye has brought to light, aheem.

    The flaws last time demand a better court, one with Gravitas that’s not fake.

    ………….

    Recalling that Imperial Germany did lots of skulldugerousstuff in USA circa 1915, including Germwar and arsons, but that the indirect effect was the US going against its German (well mostly sorts) brothers. Sabotage pizzes people off, like bombs do. The murders in Russia are similarly flatoutstupid. Thank Heaven Margarita is ok. She’s a favorite.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 5/07/2023 … Open Thread #16226
    Mr P
    Participant

    Kiev story is very discomforting. Sometimes in a moment everything changes, but it looks almost the same. An example being an earthquake that shatters but does not knock down, or a modest explosion, or an unexpected loss of income. A broken leg… it’s happened to most people that they know this surreal category of experience. Che wrote a line or two along these lines. One moment comrade Bob is alive, next he’s not. Everything is the same, but it’s not.

    Because it’s a character feature of technical people, perhaps, it’s unnatural for us to grasp how (obviously) nontechnical men see the bomb. The claim that US destroyed the last mustard gas I thought rather odd, btw…and I see claim 404 got some that did not make it to the vat.

    Let us hope that Heaven does not simply look on. History suggests many Stierlitz active. Last time the result of the bomb was the soviet bomb. This time, well, the rhyme may be that this time the result is that the “soviet” bombs get used.

    I have cartoon> All nazi cadre enter shelter, with dope and whores and catamites. Giant steel doors clang closed. Two USMC MPs, an Asian girl and a bearish black man stand next to bulldozer as it rumbles to further block the massive entrance. The welders are busy aloft making seal-welds a shower of sparks falls. Both raise talkie-talkies to lips. Black spy> “Привет? Товарищ президент? Да, теперь все нацисты за решеткой. Миссия выполнена!” Asian spy> 喂? 总统同志? 是的,纳粹现在都被关起来了。 任务完成了!(yandex)

    Perhaps I shall draw it for The New Yorker… right!

    Best wishes my Friend! We shall know all about it soon enough, hot summer? Yes, Ah reckon so.

    P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 5/07/2023 … Open Thread #16221
    Mr P
    Participant

    The Ritter thing way deeper and meatier than I had expected…especially to his popeness and the fine fella wot represents the…ah! Scotty! And the expectations for encore! Did we ever need a more pathetic example of … Funny about fellas wearing dresses, an I never trusted the bishop myself…

    The W2 audio I wrote of https://youtu.be/Woy8VPKjC2U tells similarly all about the deep intents and occult design…

    Such pre-signing is, I think, not exclusive to HC…”nazi cabal”, nazi junta…  I think it’s characteristic of natural law, people are alert to hazard, and the nasty people always give tells, as do the good, of course there are fakes and con artists…but humans are pretty open, mostly.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 5/07/2023 … Open Thread #16214
    Mr P
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    Your trip in the 80’s sounds wonderful!

    ….yes. I too think it’s not agtiprop. In fact, longlongago I knew of a small machine shop that made a particular device that had been invented by the drunken eccentric “Uncle “Bob”. Every time Luckup Industries built a sub, they bought one of these machines. Each time the bill was 5 years overdue, and “Bob’s Machine and Pump” put up a memo at the shipping desk to get a certified check. I have been  a guest aboard a diesel fleet US sub, and of course visited the museum boats. And I cotton to my navy friends… it’s all maintenance, and everything that’s happened in the US military, and civil environment, fubars maintenance. They’re calling back the retired… I think I said a long time ago that we’re in denouement… I was reading about the strategies for States that know they they shall lose. …

    IIRC the ordinary submarine maintenance rotation is by thirds. 1/3 in drydock, 1/3 FA, 1/3 FO or something amusing along such lines… I wonder what 40% means…is that .4 of the boats that ought to be ready for sea?

    Father once aspired to a commission in the Navy with an eye to submarines. In industrial situations sometimes the conditions are similar, deep inside giant machines and 100% dependent upon the reliability and character of others, including the guys who certified the steel 40 years ago…and air supply… I rather enjoyed the experience. Some do not.

    In German Museum 1962 or so I longed to reach past the ropes and to touch U1, but then I was a disciplined boy. U1 boot

    Doing Agent Z video. Nice job! Thanks!

    Das Boot is oft rewatched, and it helps me with my incompetent German…which is great fun.

    One supposes, soon enough, mine by submarine, and the funnybusiness with the cables…man have you looked at the cable charts?  And “beyond the brink… ”

    Best! P

     

     

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 5/07/2023 … Open Thread #16206
    Mr P
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    G’mornin’ Friends.

    Notes> Lavrov was quoted @ RT characterizing westleadercadre (so to say) as suffering form “megalomania”. Later this was edited to “delusions of grandeur” and so on. I wonder precisely what he meant…one of these conditions is considered pathological, the other merely a condition of a non-pathological and harmless or temporary nature. Gaslit, so to say, or misled….

    blick>  Prigozin / Zhukov / personal weapons.  Z kept as trophies a collection of captured small arms… Until Comrade Stalin took them away. These were never returned.

    Comrade Prigozin got his back. Yeah, I know, it’s not the same…still, it must make sense, but I don’t see how, yet anyway.

    With salt> https://gpsjam.org/    Nice map. Watch changes… notrustem.

    The Ritter video reference above escaped me. I should like to see this video…”title? Thanks.

    Thinking about FA>FO function, and as I have mentioned once, Romeo and Juliet and the gun on the wall therein – essentially “winking at discord” – led my thoughts, perhaps with NPS-Z and the destroyed dam in the background, to recall a scout expedition under the tutelage of a civil engineer…expedition to a dam failure site, and powerhouses, and several technical lectures about the failure. At that time the affair was yet in memories of vigorous people. So, if so inclined, Friends, leave aside the W3 horrors, briefly, and regard the analytical example of FA>FO so far as hubris, delusion, soils, and water mixed with the real-estate ponzi scheme running in the background. A model, in some respects, for the folly of faking it. An American disease, some might say. > withal>

    (story) https://la.curbed.com/2019/2/5/17434640/william-mulholland-dam-collapse-water-los-angeles-history

    (serious version) https://web.mst.edu/~rogersda/st_francis_dam/Mapping%20the%20St%20Francis%20Dam%20Outburst%20Flood%20with%20GIS.pdf

    Speaking of dam failures…. Comrade Medvedev (beyond brink) seem to have clarified the precise meaning of Comrade Lavrov’s words.  Pathological. How’s that a dam failure? , well, there’s a flood, right> après moi, le déluge. Evidently the decision is taken. Dam broke.

    Recalling that nearly all effective strategy is indirect, and that Ruski is expert…indeed > “It will be really ugly for a while, until there is the necessary change of elites.”

    I note that big conflict generally precedes big political change in the domestic arena of the participants. That’s to say that the entire purpose of the war is to shape the Peace. If it isn’t, it’s simply brigandage or racketeering.

    In my old mementos of boat stuff I think I have a Jolly Roger flag !

    Kool clown picture Amigo!

    Best! P

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