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  • in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17424
    Mr P
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    Rather the odd ramble, my friends…

    Indeed ! conflict between blacks and Boers to detonate a key target, once Africa’s top eco… Such a divide to rule has, some say, been running for many decades (centuries anyway)  in the nazibasewest, so it’s a natural for the finks. Mr Malema, whatever his true nature, is an actor in some sense, and he also needs money…since he has no evident trade. They say that expert arsonists never have to burn anything down, they get paid to not do, or course that racket takes an organization with clout…and money. I do not imagine Mr M is an expert arsonist…. 😉  He may work for one though…odd jobs an’ all.

    Tribal. Among casual chatter American Jews often say “MOT” member of the tribe, just btw. Mrs P and I have discussed, so far as we might, the tribal traces and paths and how they’ve been both influenced and influential…and of course the origins and diasporas of our shared history include several other species of chimpanzee (I have read that boffins see indications of 22 species, so far, we are not homogeneous, profiles vary, they say.), as the boffins have teased out the DNA to some extent. We decided as tentative opinion that children look like their parents. They tend to act like their parents, and react like their parents, live about as long too, Boys go walkabout and sailing. Girls can be randy. Tribes mix and change, and the ladies choose more than men know – there’s a sort of guided randomness that brought us to now an’ what people call by the much abused word “race”. Turbulence in Time as River flows and floods, sometimes, so to say.  (the term “race” is imho, so politically abused as to nearly useless, unless we speak of bearing race or millrace and so forth)

    We have been considering the implications of the long-ago Quaker community argument and decision in re slavery. There was “white” – “white” legal slavery as well as w-indigenous legal slavery and of course the white – African sort, and also the trade in women of any “race”. I ought to do some deep research on this… But what’s topical to our discussion is the implication respecting rents. These seem to be liable to be divided into classes of moral grades, but also seem to be forms of slavery. It’s a line of inquiry here at the digs. Withal, we dislike rente “machines”.

    Fixin’ Yeah. Mr Fixit. As the American farmer boys gave way to the allure of factory jobs and left the farms, these skills were ordinary. In depression nobody didn’t know a Mr Fixit, and many were him. These qualities are mostly lost now. Adults that can’t fix anything and who know very little beyond formula and rote of their employment are essentially helpless. We see that as evidence of crime, and decadence, vice. Low character. Dishonest leaders. And the natural decay of empire. Story> Pacific war. Some recently “liberated” island, (Midway?) and Captain R makes his way to the O Club. They have spirits of course. But ice as well! And ice cream. Captain (who is also a lawyer) makes inquiries… The source was a home-brew SO2 gas generator for the fluid, and highly modified air compressor, small engine, belts .. etc…y’all know the cycle. The SeaBees – a buncha farm boys, as a gang, knew how to build it and make it work. The equipment diversion and minor violations were smoothed over by the ice cream at the O Club. The fellas had cold beer and a profitable little supply racket, ahem. Captain R told me that story at dinner some 55 years ago..and now everyone knows it, a little. Good. He lived to be 103, iirc. Good fella. Called Fletcher a coward at the O Club in Oz… so? So never made admiral.  I have long suspected that “R” sabotaged his promotion due to the carnage and corruption. He’d sunk a German sub in Atlantic in W1, but that was clean as opposed to the stuff he saw in the Pacific W2. Of course, we do these things spontaneously. Psych stuff mysteries. R was in China between the wars… ref novel Sand Pebbles. (not the film!) Just such a ship. Below W1 “tin can” similar to R commanded.DD US W1 ship

    amarynth > The twelve foot gizmo is wonderful! Thanks! The previous ( “arch ive.ph/” ) no longer happens for us. I read the paper. A remark. If possible find a ‘scoped rifle or a surveyor’s transit…either one (be safe! be legal!) anyway set up the ‘scope cross hair on a “target” a mile away. Or 5 miles away. Even on a surveyor’s tripod the target jinks ’round at any great distance. ( In layout we stop at 100’…Past 100′ it loses accuracy more than is good.

    So? so burn time infinite is very nice, but it is still extremely difficult to hold the beam on target – the jinking at long range means a sort of less than 100% “duty cycle” of BoT (beam on target)

    Dust in air… scattering. Defense.

    Selecting the chemistry of an artificial smoke generator according to the absorption spectra, matching an Nth smoke chemistry to a specific LASER – the beam can be blocked by such smoke. You’d probably be able to do a fair defense with a LASER detector that fired smoke grenades , a kilo of talc, maybe titanium dioxide, check IUPAC whatever the physics is, and an ounce of C4 kinna bangers. I’d want to have the boys down in the shop run some experiments… !

    If Chinese engineers make a weapon, they are sure to also make defense.  I wonder about how the LASER “sees” the target…by radar? Optic? If “no see” then no BoT. And if LASER fires, it gives away position (probably the BFG big fat generator and the LASER give off so much heat that in thermal image they look like a city..) I wonder about means of blinding the “seeing”. Can LASER target acquisition machine stand a very bright flash? How fast can it recover, what persistence?

    Seems like a useful machine to burn down birds in flight, or model airplanes (!) These cannot defended by dust…though even there, ideas do arise.. The dust-o-matic machine…now lemmesee… I’ll need an abacus  😉

    Best! P

     

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17409
    Mr P
    Participant

    Yes, a bit…I read on it. Mind you it’s an incremental tech advance. I read that they have built a gas cooled continuous-run LASER in a frequency suitable for burning stuff and not much collimation problems, which I assume stem from heating internal, hence the cooling gas. Being practical minded, I assume air, but ahdunno..an’ that just what I read….

    Note, all amplifiers have efficiency < 1, so a high power (weapon useful) LASER has heat, I imagine that’s a problem for a long burn.

    I wish a physics cat would check in though… one article and an old guy…

    While they’re interesting weapons… They seem to me pretty limited and suitable only for special work, and development.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17404
    Mr P
    Participant

    There’s plastic, and then there’s plastic…much of what’s called plastic is a plastic cement of filler material –  Ammonium sulfamate among these, and corn starch too, percentages vary, iirc… from wayback and Cincinnati Milacron plastic injection machine maintenance class. Introducing additives sometimes creates stress concentration, nucleus of crack start. Motors make vibration, this discovers incipient crack loci… an o’scope and transducer would reveal all sorts of parasitic vibrations, under strobe even pretty. Fatigue crack formation is a time to failure matter, we are being swindled. Incidentally  many modern engines with aluminum connecting rods are running time to failure rods, design to fail beyond the useful life of engine…this is possible in plastic too, generally. It’s simply how good it good enough to make a swindle work. Airplane, especially pressurized jets, are time-to-failure dynamic stability machine, multidimensional, tricky, and cunning.

    Mrs P shares your criticisms. I posted some bit about copper…cheap-o-stuff is largely, imho, a product of depletion of mines, wells, primarystuff. She has a dough mixer that screams to me, but it has not yet cracked.

    ………..

    We’re doing raisins, speaking of good…! Anyway research of drying…learned paper. Now have wet from vine sample weighed and noted down, set variac and hot plate and fan… paper (they have nice budget and equipment!) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257678951_Comparison_of_drying_characteristics_of_Thompson_seedless_grapes_using_combined_microwave_oven_and_hot_air_drying

    Thompson grape wet-on-vine ripe & sweet is stated 78% moisture, as a general figure. Safe storage is 18%. I am trying to duplicate/verify, and discover faster throughput.

    Paper speaks of a dilute caustic dip NaOH followed by dilute acid (citric ?) which is associated with considerable reduction in dry-time to 18%. Perhaps 14 hours per slug rather that 24. Naturally the diurnal cycle ambient is about the same one day to the next, so while I note and record stuff, I doubt it’ll matter, since a slug is started in evening – same day to day. Wish for vacuum dryer oven I did not take for free off craig’s list! Dummy!

    a number of articles related to food> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1658077X10000068    Including the Thompson article.

    I saved the paper.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17399
    Mr P
    Participant

    ! Mrs P and I were only yesterday recalling the musical ! Springtime for Hitler as we were rolling down the quiet village road.

    Thinking of Gonzalo L… Ripper “Mandrake, were you ever tortured?”  and Mandrake replying “well nobody ever does…” (hold up) and etc. The questions some moot about G L are irrelevant until some time sine die, and that makes them mean remarks, imho, and I do not accept these questions as proper. Later, Mr G may write his book. I hope so.

    As said before, “Stumpy” the fictitious bookie @ Anoxia was a real guy. I didn’t know it then but I had a tiny place in “the organization” Mickey Cohen ran – after school job delivering liquor, and envelopes…when they realized I twigged to the racket, they got me a job in a machine shop… good guys, tough business, they did what they had to do, largely a manifestation of class conflict… So? –  so Warren Zevon, son of Stumpy reminds me of Gonzalo…way out of safe zone  https://youtu.be/F2HH7J-Sx80  Send Lawyers guns an’ money dad!… (he does tell the story later in interview elsewhere) I may have met Stumpy once, I hope so anyway.

    For Gonzalo>

    “I went home with a waitress the way I always do
    How was I to know she was with the russians, too?

    I was gambling in havana, I took a little risk
    Send lawyers, guns, and money
    Dad, get me out of this, hiyah!

    An innocent bystander
    Somehow I got stuck between a rock and a hard place
    And I’m down on my luck
    Yes, I’m down on my luck
    Well, I’m down on my luck

    I’m hiding in honduras, I’m a desperate man
    Send lawyers, guns, and money
    The shit has hit the fan

    Send lawyers, guns, and money
    Send lawyers, guns, and money

    Send lawyers, guns, and money, hiyah!
    Send lawyers, guns, and money, ow! ”

    ………..

    MEK Albania> amusing term “crackdown”…mirrors why things break, cracks… One might suppose that to these fellas the Canadian/US border will be…transparent. How jolly. Recalling that man may summon to himself a bad fate, and that consorting with murders and violent men tends to create a machine than destroys the hustler racketeer himself. It is revealed how the Plan to Control North America’s “deplorables” is formed.

    Bummer Dude.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17389
    Mr P
    Participant

    Morn’n  Fine thoughts and posts e’rybody.

    Sudhi’s remark re Karma and the relationship R-P… I heartily agree, and note that imho they form a dynamic couple, a machine… That got me to thinking about perturbation and outliers in Time.Bell curves an’ statistics…

    Even a highly stable and happy political couple R-P can, we assume, be ruined by outside coming inside… internet and the tendency to abandon discipline and duty and family and kin in favor of a hedonistic path of greedy and ultimately futile, sterile, self-gratification, etc, including all the ordinary vices and some very occult crazychit….these being part of an example of a secondary after-effect – a DARPA project to maintain comm in nuclear war. Secondary effects are cunning, perhaps the metaphysical equivalent of malign intent some machines harbor along with their basic death wish. An invisible metamachine lurking and unsee able which may materialize at any moment. Of course there is also direct intrusion…rockets, bullets, rocks. And coincidence. Of coincidence, or spooky action (“hand of God”, “HoG” “) more below.

    But speaking of rocks (!) New stuff has come to light, it seems. The Roman concrete recipe may have been teased out of Hadrian’s Wall. It’s interesting to realize that the chemistry produces a “metal” (not in the ordinary sense, but in the old time sense), more or less an alloy, structure, sorta. And like adding tin to copper, when it cools those tin atoms change everything about the properties, and pinch of arsenic has amazing effects as well…but the alkali metals in the Roman concrete seem to create similar physical structure, in scanning electron microscope lens…similar, perhaps analogous, to an alloyed copper, etc.

    “A reproduction of Imperial-age mortar based on Trajan’s Markets (110 CE) wall concrete resists microcracking through cohesion of calcium–aluminum–silicate–hydrate cementing binder and in situ crystallization of platey strätlingite, a durable calcium-aluminosilicate mineral that reinforces interfacial zones and the cementitious matrix. In the 1,900-y-old mortar dense intergrowths of the platey crystals obstruct crack propagation and preserve cohesion at the micron scale. Trajanic concrete provides a proven prototype for environmentally friendly conglomeratic concretes that contain ∼88 vol % volcanic rock yet maintain their chemical resilience and structural integrity in seismically active environments at the millenial scale.”

    You’ll recall I mentioned a couple of books on how stuff breaks and why things fall down…generally…cracks. The old stuff is old because it resists cracking, mostly.

    https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.1417456111

    The US, Corps of Engineers I think, did an experimental spillway not too many years ago in a close approximation of the Roman big rock and compacted and layers and volcanic stuff – so I recall reading about. The use of machinery rather than slaves changed the product, obviously, and nobody on the job had ever done that job, so…experiment.  Roman engineers would have probably done a better job.

    Coincidence, HoG, spooky action…….perturbation of otherwise inherent dynamic  stability.  of R-P couple

    see> https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2022SW003379  and the general lay of the scientific aspect…We live in a system, an active system, that is more or less sure to make inoperative, to some extent destroy, most electrical machines on the planet. It’s simply a matter of luck-up event. How, I wonder will the Great nazi Junta, assuming it’s still in operation, survive with no cops and no lights and nothing to eat? We might also ask the same questions of the Global South and East, Russia, China, and the Question about Africa…that one gets interesting.  Of course the solar-weather ruining the electrical machines, which is just about everything beyond a shovel or a knife, is not the old source of perturbations capable of beyond-the-elastic-limits of an Nth R-P…which means crack-break of R-P… So? Well, rocks. These happen. And Heaven hath shewn, there’s our moon, all bashed quite nicely… like the Rabbi’s story and drowning… God sent three boats.

    Which minds me again of why old stuff is old, it resists cracking…and similarly optimism is constantly reinforced by the increasingly astonishing discovery that every man must have when he arises each day, not dead. Optimism itself, a metamachine of sorts, may act as part of a machine to resist cracking.  I think so anyway. Hadrian’s Wall is made of optimistic concrete? Yeah.

    btw the machine meta think stuff was obsessive through adolescence, very unpleasant sometimes…it’s resolved now, but I can’t juggle as many bits anymore, not giant structures in detail. The intuition remains though. Feynman talks about the same thing. He was a motivated student. Me? Yerkiddin’

    Best! P

     

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17380
    Mr P
    Participant

    Yes, dear…or at least it’s a very old story I’ve heard many times. Before rail there were rut roads through soft rock, however the spacing was perhaps less, closer to donkey or mule.

    Roman roads were military assets, thus spacing for “mobile armor unit chariot ” and traction unit.

    De Re Metallica includes illustrations of rails in mines. Also pumps, etc.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17378
    Mr P
    Participant

    Thanks…people evolve. Rabbi say “many paths to God”.

    La Guardia (NYC mayor fame) used to say that “you can’t do nuthin’ if you don’t get elected”, or maybe it was Johnson… People do all sorts of stuff trying to get power. As you say, a strange one. Recalling that the indirect is usually a heavy effect, and BF Hart’s “Strategy”, (and Maud Lebowski! and the little Lebowski!) the regrettable secondary effect of peoples invading and stealing loot is probably heavier than the crime itself. A compound interest machine. How nice. At Anoxia the old crimes are put away, but dark forces tease them out like the 404nazis… We do hear of the open border and armies of young men… Whatever. Waters find their way. What’s stole sometimes comes unstole in troubled times.

    But about Africa and the Changes> interesting engineer cat

    https://substack.com/@bfrandall

    Not political, more like applied chemistry in a reality-based universe.

    One example this paper> https://bfrandall.substack.com/p/copper (there’s not enough and it takes massive amounts of money, electricity, and diesel to make a copper bar.)

    Maybe it might be relevant to  GS? Ahdunno. They say copper in Africa is sweeter stuff. They also say that Ruskie has plenty copper, and maybe NK? Greed fellas, greed, lazybunchfinkfascistthieves? Well…

    Fact’s, and imho he presents facts, matter like brick walls…

    (doing raisin dryness food measure chem to-day, hard to find procedure, we’ll take the basic approach.)

    (oopps! Desperado at the Quik E Mart waving a gun about. (probably a fake)…cops on it like stink…) Radio!

    Best!

    P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17369
    Mr P
    Participant

    Multitudes of thanks, as now I have a frame for Mr Malema! I did like his true-ness about the NATO…

    Spitting is, I am assured, also a tradition in the US Navy. And indeed one does find drawn to speculate on other, similar, expressions of “objection”. Alas! The officers know, after a time. Ripper may have made a subtle implication…ahem! Since fragging in Army, we assume spitting…a lesser sin?

    At the Dewdrop Inn they tell a story about some incoherent doper out in the parking lot, he got arrested with poison oak…he was smearing the leaves on the cop car door handle when they caught him…

    You guys knowing Africa is indeed, as it shares by a tiny bit by bit dialogue, a wonder for me. Thanks very kindly. As yet I have no “feel”…the US experience between “whites” and “blacks” totally obscures  (I think) for most Americans, and especially for the ruling class ad hoc …totally blinds American rulers from seeing Africans as Equals. This of course is terrible, as their fate is to be disillusioned somewhat abruptly.

    Longtimeago on a union job among maybe 20 US fellas, all “a-race-mixed”, we had one of the blackest men I’d ever seen, quiet. And in the jocular repartee of construction gangs we told stories… until He spoke. It was devastating to everyone. Clearly a foreigner by accent and elocution, and with a comprehensive understanding of geopolitical factual history. This welcome event, in microcosm perhaps foreshadows a common future for the Americans, and shocking too, for the junta…

    One of the features of rapid change is the arrivals from Birnham Wood. It would have been boring, but nice, to live in a quieter period, eh?

    Best! P

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17354
    Mr P
    Participant

    Things happen when what everyone knows and was afraid (mostly) to say out loud, begin to speak… I don’t know how causative this is, it may be more a marker, anyway one straight talk…https://youtu.be/ibj7HZpzOhg  “you can’t talk of NATO and Peace in one sentence…” Julius Malema (of whom I have never before heard, I’m sorry to say.)

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17295
    Mr P
    Participant

    I am deeply flattered by the undeserved praise, Brother. Thank you very kindly. It seems to me that some men find focus, and others wander about. Available if Fate calls them, otherwise simply spares… Myself being a spare…maybe a living history, a bit of anyway. how could I possibly take up the comprador niche I was set for, after I saw the Red Hunt and Korea and overheard certain matters under discussion?  Your 1947 Hearst – well, Father got caught in that stuff, and Mother…  I recall my teachers askin’ “Is your father’s first name…”  We moved a lot. Looking back, maybe a taste of “ptsd” writ small. We discussed being odd man out as kids… Father carried a .38 pistol in the 40’s and 50’s… I nearly missed him, two fellas tried to take him for a ride the same day that Mother waited to tell him the happy news… He came home, she said, covered with blood. There had been a previous close call with a suicidal fella at the courthouse…mad suicide bomber…probably in 47 or 48. I ought to check with the LA Times librarian… The poor fella went ahead and did it… highly dramatic. But he walked away first. Father and the fella had been chatting, he said…adding that the man was sweating and terribly agitated. Blast at Courthouse back in th’ day. Little fella he was. Wearing a suit in warm non air-conditioned LA… well, he had to conceal the dynamite…

    I also remember the first cops I met…investigating a theft..they had only one question> “Was it a Niggxx or a Spixx …?? ”  Maybe I was 2 years old…they made a very ugly impression, and they smelled bad.

    I looked at the Turksilo initiation of explosion… “sabotage” by neglect… static discharge. An ordinary and inevitable result, inmo, of lack of maintenance and poor policy. Recalling “what’s an accident?”  Grain in the drop off the conveyor falls and the the static charge builds… It looks like the spark started in the drop. Is a sort of a van de graff generator. I’d guess the dust control system was not running. The plant shows poor house-keeping too.  Like sex, “Shucks, nothing ever happened before…” and whaddyaknow!

    Gunderson said about Fukushima… the fuze was lit in US. I think some fellas quit rather than sign off….back in ’65 or whatever. Of course they had job for the asking at Luckupcorp. The Saturn moon project an’ all that stuff. Yes, the Yanks despised the Japanese in the 1960’s.  But Fuk was built for political leverage on the cheap…  All machine desire to revert of their origins…and resume a quiet repose, and some are mean spirited… But GE was peopled by men who held the Japanese in contempt, some of them veterans of the Pacific War… and the Kamikaze actions…and the “Victory at Sea” series of half or 1/4 truth propaganda ran on TV building the mythic history…so sure, the engineers mostly said “phuckem”. It is fair to recall that in the same period the Japanese fellas would cut a yank sailor’s throat, or lower than that, if they could… sometimes they managed. This also I have heard from eye witness about Turk and saber up the backside of sailorman yank ashore in ’63 … fella was said to have made improper “advances” with respect to Moslem Ladies…once. You know how brothers can be…”serious” about some matters.

    Seriously, machine is task master. And sheds no tears. Build machine make of self a slave to machine….and “machine” can be the rente economy _ a racket and also a machine.

    Machine… In the ordinary scope of wood and iron, the combinations of the basic physical machine elements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_machine  when manifest these exist in latency (for me) as 4 (Time plus more) dimensional potentials. More complex machine, (and I understand your pov my Brother!), are perhaps influenced (inho yes) by spooky action and a impenetrable complex of chemistries and feed-back structures… man, imhv, is a multidimensional machine. This may exceed the “elasticity” of the word “machine”. Voltaire and his animal automatons is for me flat out stupid, even though I do appreciate the V man. For me the machine-man is capable of hearing the voice of heaven…how many dimensions does that place him in? Dunno, but more than I can count.

    Sniper> If nobody sees you, it’s very fine. If sniper shoots and misses (shame!) then everybody down range is interested in sniper, and in killing him. If he kills or wounds, then everybody down range is even more interested in killing sniper, and they are pizzedoff. Is dangerous craft. Beer cans at 600 yards? Fun! But sniper is for crazy men. I have known one fella from the Vietnam crime spree who was sniper. After doing sniper and being discharged, he tore himself ever so slowly bit by bit to physical ruin… self torture. The souls of his kills lived in him like knives. Of course a proper serial murderer for fun is a psyco. My old pal had the bad luck to be sane.

    Interestingly, about the trade craft of machines, I checked the hourly rate for my most recent old union… > 60 sambuck per hour now. The fellas are getting nailed in taxes for the same work that previously they were taxed at lower rate. Sometimes the field engineers would quit at the end of a job and on the next job you’d run into the same fella, but he’d be carrying a union card…more money less trouble. Mrs P and I share an odd quality or ability – a sort of kinetic visualization of things in transparencies, by thought alone, like the old time blue-prints with overlays, but running. An example being a radio transmitter in operation, and “seeing” the flows in color, or visualizing gears in operation flooded with oil, with the hot spots reddish… Machine speak. We Listen. It’s not very useful though. Mrs P does a very good job of critical path fitting…how to move things… Craftword for zugswang is btw “tubelocked” to Tooblocked” …caint go neither way, we’re screwed fellas…get a torch…” She somehow avoids tubelock, me not so great. For me it’s bit like being a tiny eye that can go anywhere inside…and the audio speaks too, I hear all sorts of voices from machinery.

    To-day we make of table grape abundance the individual blanched gapes (known as “hot-break” in food chem), it’s simply a quick trip to 100C (enzyme kill) , thence to dryer for 14 +  hours.  Raisins are very nice, eh?  Later walnuts, slaked and chelated and dried… fine evening communal roundtable listen to old radio shows time for Fall season…

    Enough! The global revolution and epochal phase…and the conflict…these run. Maybe meantime ride motorcycle. Shuck corn. Forge iron. I do wish we really had a Dew Drop Inn and a Stumpy…  Anoxia is, but it’s not terribly stimulating… So? It’s nice. Maybe it will stay nice.

    The Salon is a very special “machine” 😉   Bless y’all.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17274
    Mr P
    Participant

    Astonishingly Brother Hal Turner to-night gives a solid outline of the actual real history and the details… Niger and Vickie-the Well-Nourished  and the crooked fascist ride war by war… A Fine Job Bother! He even mentions the smack dollars and Chicago and Niger dollarwashingcooks…the gas pipe…graft to the Big Guy even   Hal’s getting close to the bone. He had a non hysterical night. He may be a fink, and I’m glad he’s somewhere else, but I kinna like the cat.

    (I think maybe Hal has overdone it… he has an audience. Recalling Orwell and the quote about telling truth…)

    The visit to their old Territorial Sea Alaskazone by Reds, with their Chinese comrades amuses >  relevant old propaganda film https://youtu.be/ZbWeQPUWynA  Reds and Yanks as allies in W2 and at sea… worth watch imho. Evidently Great Naval Experts are unaware that Ruski Fleets occupied both US coasts to interfere with the British interference in the US political dispute known as the northern war of aggression…Anyway the film is interesting in terms of cinema-graphic character and style. Also Historic images. Good in silence first. Then with voice. It does not align with the mythic fogs of spume’d lies of to-day, eg not pc. BTW that series was presented endlessly on the new to all TV system in US…back in day. Formative then, forgotten now, mostly.

    Sudhi, your Pushkin> Yes indeed. It may be that the best is to train up a system to create high quality leaders by design. Seems to me that’s essential; to identify the moral motivations of “students” and track the morally lesser into activities that do not reward their corrupt ambitions, but do reward…just keep them away from power and wealth, keep an eye on them…while of course promoting the selfless and capable…the quality people. A system to create “Putins”. It’s trying to grab at stability in a whirlwind… “aristocracy” is a tricky matter, who does not want rule by the best? The problem is to create the best and to get the best into position, and the notbest out of there and off running a forklift in a factory. Easy to say. Eh? I’d rather be a hand on the job. So would most people. That says something…about identifying the best.

    Speaking of Great Leaders and Territorial Sea… did a bit of sleuthing and realized Admiralty Law is maybe mysterious to old cat… but it seems that  “territorial sea” or “territorial waters” is established according to the US view by “presidential decree”. That’s it. Lex Romae est quidquid dicitur. Potestas iudicat ius et iniuriam et dominium secundum possessionem. Or so to say. So? Smiling at the risible idea that the Taiwan Strait might become, very briefly, a US Territorial Sea according to some PCP-influenced, possibly with a line of coke…some  sort of contrived legalistic deceit. Wave the paper Joe.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17271
    Mr P
    Participant

    Yes, Sudhi,  this is, I believe, a true thing. [eliminate] “… Ukraine as a state, Ukrainism, as an idea and Ukrainian spirit, as a carrier of a deadly infection-comparable to biological wea…”

    Where does this ideology reside other than zone 404? and what gangs are sending money? Some might imagine that the source of this infection lies outside zone 404, Ahem… How to cut a cancer when the cells are financed from outside the corpus?

    404 can be done for anytime, best by degrees, but anytime…where’s the eminence grise with the cash?

    Not that I object to the fine fellas and, ah, persons in 4o4 HQ and their Plan for world domination and population culling…not at all! It’s quite splendid…Give it you finest effort, please!  But this does not alter the logic, does it? (hi fellas!, take a break, do a line or whatever)

    …..I am amused to hear learned naval experts say ruski – china ships have/has never before come to US waters (Alaska stuff with the grey ships, and Chinese voyages history). How nice. Say Generaladmirilofficer: Did they also teach buggery? Or was the entire canon total krap?

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    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17257
    Mr P
    Participant

    adding > In one of the videos at https://maritime-executive.com/index.php/article/video-explosion-rips-through-turkish-grain-port    One can see the beginning of the destruction. Point of ignition. They say that the work underway was unloading 404 wheat from 404 ship to the silo… so? It’s unclear how the wheat was being handled…clam-shell bucket is one way…another is bucket elevator. Thence to belts and so on. Either way it is easily imagined that there was a mine amongst the material. So not only naziwheat, nazi ship, but also ship was unloading…and they say there are handy explosives rather easy to lay hands upon. Having run combines harvesting wheat in peaceful Kansas I judge it impossible that an explosive could have innocently got caught up without detonating in the harvesting machinery. However…

    claymore mine

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    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17252
    Mr P
    Participant

    I’d look for nitrate residue…simply based on the images. A quick study of properly investigated peace-time silo explosions might be interesting too. The images do not suggest to my eye a “natural” accident.

    https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/lab/forensic-science-communications/fsc/april2002/kelleher.htm

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12533728_Physical_and_Chemical_Evidence_Remaining_After_the_Explosion_of_Large_Improvised_Bombs_Part_1_Firings_of_Ammonium_NitrateSugar_and_Urea_Nitrate

    Inevitably the imagination works.. So I am sorry to say that taking the scene on the globalhomascale such failures in foundational machines, silos, bridges, may be liable to take place in Omaha, or along the Mississippi Valley, or in Kansas City…with the effect of raising grain prices, the old rente gag we know from Uncle Marx, and reducing the troublesome deplorables’ tendency to disobedience.

    I have been studying the Military Miners of WW1… on one splendid day the Brits detonated 40,000 pounds of bangerstauf under the German positions… claim 10,000 dead. The miners worked under appalling conditions. Many remain buried in collapsed tunnels deep under the fields.

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    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17243
    Mr P
    Participant

    Yes, maybe accident, however that begs question, what’s an accident? In many aspects modern “large stationary machines” such as refineries, grain silos, power stations and most other nifty stuff reside at apex of a support base pyramid… These “machines” then have a foundation. Like Steinbeck’s “dynamo”, they wreck themselves – sometimes with no hand. Simply not doing dust control blower belt replacement might cause “accident”. btw in some machines the belts are special non-sparking…something as trivial as saving a dollar by buying the cheaper sorts is like tossing a match. I can’t imagine that the wrights at the locus in quo were well-paid and well-staffed, with everything ship-shape. Not competent repairs – I have been called in after fires and discovered cause was incorrect bearing replacement, for example, and called in other times and discovered cause was careless operation – not working…just letting it run and smoke to ignition-explosion.  Is not doing an accident? OSHA goes on about dust and housekeeping… so not doing…

    At River longtimeago acquainted with fascistazzwhole retired arson cop. (He quit the police when SF bought cop cars sans cigarette lighter, which, he said, was previously used (generally on the face or nose) to enhance field-confessions from men and women he saw as contemptible  untervolk.) West to the cop part of the fire department.  So? This finefella said many times that about half of fires in his experience were arson. I myself return to the original question…

    Even a small charge would if placed properly, deep I suppose) create a dust cloud, with secondary explosion. Two stage bangs happen… even inside large engines in ships…see http://machineryspaces.com/explosion-relief-valve.html  (these prevent, one hopes, the secondary bang)

    I don’t buy “accident”.

    Note Yellow Freight Lines in USA kaputski. That was a large dynamic machine, also on foundation of deteriorating stability. Accident and coincidences in supply occur not only in Turkey. (Since Rus needs thousands of truck drivers right now, we speculate that a few of the Yellow Freight drivers have some Russian… lotta fellas from India drive US trucks… highly amusing to imagine that in a year or two they’ll roll on Ruskieroads.) US cities are highly vulnerable to supply “accidents”. We might speculate as to why “infrastructure” is not maintained properly…bridges and railroads might be a place to investigate motivations to “postpone” repairs… Spooky action happens, but most stuff is by obvious agency…so not accident.

    The perspective I get from the news and propaganda, together with a bit of background reading, leads me to see the present conflict as in phase “skirmish”, the resolution and post bellum conditions are, I think, years away. Deagel… And the actual LeMay… his theory of war was to kill the opponent until there were so few remaining that they could no longer fight back, iirc.  https://youtu.be/E1NV0MDXw7o  @ 00:36 +  and @ 3:29 “Buck, Honey, I’m not sleepy either” is a favote Mrs P likes very much!)

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