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Mr P
ParticipantI am not a helio fella, and not a pilot… I did ground school for Cessna 152 and flew a few times VFR with a licensed pilot observing… many years ago…I found flying entirely easy and natural, and if I’d had 10 hours and enough money I’d have soloed…I really like stall recoveries and landings! (and I think I could solo to-day under good conditions.) However I was very interested in the machines. Speaking of ice, icing… of helio ice problems I know little. But in prop aircraft ice can form on the prop. It’s more or less symmetrical, so the balance is not terrible. Thrust suffers a lot though. After a little while, the ice flies off one blade before it flies off the other – then the vibration is terrible, and pretty soon the ice falls off that blade too. Meantime the ice changes the profile of the blade and makes the propeller efficiency really bad. The process repeats until things change.
Helios have rotors, they too must ice. However an iced rotor that throws would, I am pretty sure tear the machine apart. Helios are in dynamic metastatic struggle between the stresses of centrifugal and gravity and drag forces. Essentially they’re trying to explode. Recall also the tail rotor may also ice up and toss ice and create problems similar to those encountered in airplanes. I have been told by a neighbor who ran (he’s dead now) a very profitable helio charter company at Anoxia Field…. dozens of birdies….that chopper drivers need many more hours to achieve competence than is necessary in fixed wing.
In aircraft like DC3, C54, etc, prop ice sometimes makes big dents in airplane, probably even comes through the skin…it certainly would in a fabric aircraft.
The condition at the locus in quo sure looked like icing conditions. If ice was a factor that would, maybe, explain the other two helios bugging off. Better one chopper down than three… pilots 1st responsibility is to the passengers, then to the machine, then other stuff… The radio silence? I spoke of the HF aircraft band and posted a url relevant to that… Radio silence may have been procedural according to policy ?? I mean they got Yamamoto … eh? Flyers make target in war-time.
Age…depends on maintenance and hours…just as in a boat. Eventually the airframe times out from fatigue…aluminum tends to work harden and crack…operating temperature probably matters too, fatigues faster in colder weather iirc… but in the example it looks like a toss up between vertigo in white out (I assure you that “up” is indistinguishable from “down”… pilot must trust his instruments and nothing else). Ice can foul instruments too… 😉 Between vertigo and ice…maybe both. Of course the big technical problem is hitting the mountain.
Are there any experienced chopper drivers out there who would be so kind as to speak to these musings? Please speak!
Mr P
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A fella I read now and then. A QC member of the UK Bar.
https://adeyinkamakinde.blogspot.com/
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….commentary on Israel-Palestine with an emphasis on a critique of the attitudes of self-described British nationalists, patriots and white identitarians to the conflict in Gaza; one which is shaped by an antipathy to Islam and Muslim migrants rather than by a rigorous application of the principles of the universal moral order.
1. Israel-Palestine is about land dispossession.
The Israel-Palestine conflict is fundamentally rooted in the land dispossession and population transfer insisted upon by Political Zionism and as Vladimir Jabotinsky, the formulator of “Zionist….
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MoA speaks to the chopper fubar (or murders?)… Speculates VFR in IFR conditions…and that the modern IFR electronics were not available due to perfidy of, well, the Forrest Gump test would say nazis…. Well, nazi is as nazi does…eh? Know them by their acts. 😉
Remarking> In cold fog it may have also been associated with icing. I’ve seen that at sea level in cold fog, “tule fog, on motorcycle control cables, and also under the hood in the old air-cooled Volkswagen buss … burrr!
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Decades in weeks? Yup.
Mr P
ParticipantSome possibly silly notes on the affairs. 😉
Remarking of MQ-9 flying spy robot and the nazi claim that it stopped flying due to “technical problems”. We previously inquired about the root meaning of “technical” in the context of the Russian December 2021 “ultimatum” . iirc the key meaning is, includes, action or movement, as in a flowing creek, etc. Thus, for example, an explosion is highly “technical”…and we assume that was the “technical problem” Nr 1 with the special birdie. The technical problem Nr 2 being the lack of movement when the junk stopped moving, as in finished in silence on the ground, bang! Big technical problem came to smashing end. US words highly risible and appreciated!
Noting Cornel West (RT) speaks of “US Empire” in decay and must be “dismantled”. Remarking that “dismantling” – such a process necessitates a master in charge of the project. Decay is another matter, it’s an auto-destruct process. Now then, what agency might be engaged to “dismantle”, to be the boss of the project? Well… Quiz is not necessary, is it? Speaking of unified Heartland and the expertise gained in 404 and many other loci. 😉 Indeed, does Brother West conflate “decay” and “dismantle”? Which is to say that dismantle is probably mistaken for decay. imho we observe that decay cannot go further and assume that dismantle is what we see, while decay was what we saw previously. Sometimes decades happen in weeks, somebody said 😉
Palestinian with nice “home-made” rifle make maybe 700 meter hit… remarking that it would be interesting to ask a US Marine sniper to make his own rifle and ammunition…right down to the brass casing… and duplicate the shot. (Stumpy laughed at the thought!). (aside… a fella I knew made his own rifles and, being poor, used one in competition for the prizes, turkey… meat. Until he was asked by the other fellas to stop attending the competitions…he was too good, noone would compete against him because it was pointless.) Remarking that when men are trying to kill you it’s difficult to shoot accurately…the Palestinian fella must attend the Russian and Chinese games when the action is complete. He’s very very good. A champ!
Noting that democracy and Communism share a common set, and that’s obvious...fascism on the other hand… 😉
Splash? zone near San Diego… re-entry of booster story sound like bs to me…as does the assumption that it is not a launch zone… Ruskie U Boot most quiet 😉 And Bi-don loves surprises! (Well, doanever’ybody?)
Is the 18-5-2024 Der Spiegle cover real? Remarking that indeed many things have been learned…particularly by the Rest of the World, especially by the old allies of the Heartland. The nazis, well, it’s ideology…and that prevents learning, does it not? Speaking of auto-destruct 😉
Finally, of Comrade Stalin (I have been also reading Molotov) I see that there is opinion about poisoning. It would not be the first time… but the actual evidence is not known to me…speaking also of the terror in nazi zone EU, with respect to Brother Fico and the inspiring of servile obedience by force nazi… Are we treated to be also witness to tactic poisoning as terrorism, coming soon to a theater nearby? Thinking of Fidel…who, btw, said that he always kept a .45 handy… 😉 and who failed to die for a very very long time. Keeping that .45, ah reckonz, served also as a reminder to be thoughtful about what a fella might eat.
Time for some chores in cool period of day…
Mr P
ParticipantGot headache? 😉
Fatal Post COVID mRNA-Vaccine Associated Cerebral Ischemia
Don’t worry, relief is on the way, sorta…
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10091442/
24 hrs after receiving her first dose of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, a 30-year-old female developed severe headache. Three weeks later she was admitted with subacute headache and confusion. Imaging initially showed scattered cortical thrombosis with an elevated opening pressure on lumbar puncture. An external ventricular drain was placed, but she continued to have elevated intracranial pressure. Ultimately, she required a hemicraniectomy, but intractable cerebral edema resulted in her death. Pathology was consistent with thrombosis and associated inflammatory response.
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Bogus peer review (see above previous) https://principia-scientific.com/the-alarming-history-of-peer-review/
Mr P
ParticipantThanks kindly. Yes,the secondary after-effects of the crime will, as you noted, be great intimidation. That also creates or brings forth actions in other ways, as we see has developed in Palestine…but the process is slow. And it summons cops and spies to dig and pry and decoy the bad fellas (or the good fellas) into revealing themselves. And other after-effects too> After Dallas, for example, the illegal gun laws were passed – iirc copied fairly closely from the translated Weimar Gun Law in the Library of Congress.
Shield and Sword (USSR) https://youtu.be/3g_7eDAsj2o
Coma… minds me of All Things Bright and Beautiful, xtr 30 and the sick ewe, and 31 the sick poodle.
My Freudian suitability rate… of course I thought survive-ability. Still, the slip works pretty well!
Apropos of history and reliable machines…………Lube oil… On the WW1 and WW2 Liberty ships the “engine oil pump” had a 20 minute (I was informed) job. He carried the oil to the oiling points, and poured it in by hand and eye at each point…thus inspecting every bit, and noting any excess or too slow drip drip drip, so to say. Then he repeated the pass, and so on, until his watch was relieved. The crank is open. There are little tubes and metering devices “lubricators” that have little windup crank…a skilled oiler-man…a cybernetic oil pump, if you will. In a rough sea, beam, on the job must have been a challenge. However noting that the engine axis is close to the center of roll, which is better than being aloft or on deck, and probably safer and warmer.
fun starts at about + 2 min https://youtu.be/Q_A2TVLRaoc
I’ve been aboard a Liberty in engine room when they lit off a boiler and brought the plant up…it takes hours before she’ll go ’round. First the engine is rocked by reversing back and forward, a little at a time, till she’s unstiff enough to roll clear over. In the Vietnam affair they actually used the old recip Liberty ships, at least a bit…verbal from a QMED (unlicensed, but qualified member engine department) who was amazed to have been dispatched to a “phuckin’ up and down”.
Mr P
ParticipantMr Fico. It seems to me that the suitability rate for 5 pistol bullets at close range to the upper body and abdomen is very low. He may be tickin’ over, but he’s in poor condition. Noting that keeping him tickin’ might be seen as a political tactic. My sense of the thing is that men seldom recover from multiple hits to trunk. AHH would perhaps have a similar opinion. 5? Well that was how I counted them. But maybe he got lucky. It happens.
Mr P
Participant@ What’s Going on with Shipping> Why Did Dali Lose Power in Baltimore? | NTSB Releases Preliminary Report No need to bother with this video. The substance is that the main engine cannot run without the main generator set powering the lubricating pump and cooling water pump. They also cannot use the rudder w/o electrical power to the hydraulic pumps in rudder system. Ditto thruster. There are 4 diesel generators. And a small emergency genset. Interconnections abound. These gensets are high voltage 3 phase. Obviously the circuit breakers and so forth trip if limits are exceeded, such limit including synchronization, etc. Evidently a HV CB tripped. I’d guess transformer defect and/or CB defect and/or synchronization defect. It’s pretty clear that a material defect in systems existed. Speculation on my part is that the engine department concealed a problem they did not fully understand. I suspect that based on personal experience and especially on the El Paso LNG ship grounding @ Algeciras long time ago due to a boiler water level controller problem. (The story is that the Engine Department used channel locks to bash the unit until it worked, and kept this known defect/problem from a series of USCG inspections). That was an American crew, btw.
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In a classical steamship, both reciprocating and turbine, the lubrication system is designed to gravity flow such that a L.O. pump failure leaves something like 20 minutes of oil from a tank flowing happily to main engine. A CMA graduate marine engineer told me personally that this design was specifically to prevent loss of propulsion in a harbor or tight channel. Evidently, imho, increasing fuel economy requirements and various regulations have obviated that sound and basic principle. In classical diesel motorship the cooling and lube oil pumps are duplicated, these main pumps are gear driven from the main engine, and the electrically driven pumps are “auxiliary”. Increasing complexity creates sinister machine death wish to manifest. The real fault imho is a mismatch between the grey matter and the unforgiving nature of complex machines, poor real-world design to squeeze out the last morsel of of rent extraction. Ultimately that mismatch exists as a delusion in being. A clock to fubar. It’s not a fixable problem within the present day way of things. They’ll probably blame the fellas who had nothing to do with the design and operating requirements. Probably somebody knew they had a problem they did not understand, and which brought consequences they did not anticipate. The skipper reported to the pilots that the ship was in good condition. He was mistaken… And let’s ask how long he’d have been employed if he’d said otherwise..and ask this also of the engine department.
Mr P
ParticipantCurious about the provenance of pistol, (five rounds fired, I counted, and it sounded like a .38 revolver to my ears) … so, In Slovakia everybody keeps a pistol? Obviously not. Prisoner suspect Juraj Cintula and the weapon seem like a worthwhile set of “leads”, eh?
Stumpy bet that the rod is a Colt. I bet Smith & Wesson 😉 Noone bet Makarov
.38 or other, five, dicey prospect.
Mr P
ParticipantNoting that zone 404 Ruskie advance, by doctrine-necessity, iiac, will be attended by waves of new Ruskie holding forces and logistics. Such forces are now train up, they say.
Our great intellectual guitar player…did he threaten the cokester “doan yew dare run away boy yew is the man (and the martyr to be in nazi propaganda)”.
Speaking of holding forces, these invite attack, do they not?
SWIFT RESPONSE 24
14 May – 14 June
During exercise Swift Response, the US-led Immediate Response Force will carry out joint airborne operations to enhance readiness, foster interoperability with Allied forces and contribute to NATO’s assurance and deterrence efforts. It is organised under the umbrella of DEFENDER 24Estonia, Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/222847.htm

IIRC from 1950’s nukedoc the idea was to waste the enemy force with a tacnuk and then occupy his zone, etc. Speaking of Barbarossa, er, well, ahfergit. Catchem with their pants down would be the stratagem. 😉 Speaking of antique flyer F16…and special capabilities.
Recalling fat fella Mr Lie Cheat Steal & West Point ?? “We’re in a live exercise here…”
Looks pretty lively to me.
Mr P
ParticipantRemarking the implication of Ruskie view of zone west is that there must be some sort of metamorphoses in zone west, such that the a-priori assumptions must be abandoned. One might imagine the auto d’ fe method as a possible path to agency.
However (!) noting Ukrainian Soldiers Along With Armed Civilians Attacked The Ukrainian Army In KRASNOGOROVKA ( ff fwd to abt 7 minutes! ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-D_q6AuzzQ Now then, we see a brave and determined anti-fascist partisan agency, yes, in zone 404… but the principle ! Ah, that’s moral, the big bonfire not so much. Apropos of nothing, Lee (iirc) said that if he’d known what was going to happen he’d never have signed, but taken to the woods in a vast partisan rebellion… or so I recall his words. Whether or not these fellas in 404 are really partisan, or maybe just enterprising brigands… neh? The nazis will call them criminals, I won’t. I say Partisan in the tradition of their peoples.
Mr P
Participantnazi propaganda is a part of the chronicle…remembering Simpson “prequel” we have now bigbig attempt to frighten the nutzlossenvolk of Europe. https://www.bitchute.com/video/4c4zoSj6QY2o/ Maybe the nazis are being unrealistic, eh? Now where did I put that white flag, and, oh yes, that Soviet one we saved… 😉 2 vastly amusing minutes of fear… right.
Mr P
ParticipantTroubling claims of agency influencing and even controlling peer review… geewhiz!
The alarming history of Peer Review
Written by Gloria Moss PhD FCIPD on May 10, 2024. Posted in Current NewsTrust the science, man!
The science of controlling crowds… the science of theft and vice…
Mr P
Participanthttps://youtu.be/0bLp83A7qnM Larry Johnson is somewhat agitated!
Mr P
Participant@Chron’l inter alia remarked on RT Elijah Magnier said the attack was controlled in Berlin and used weapons from zone west… an invitation to escalation, seen, he said, as a win-win, by the goodfellas wot did it. What a terrible thing to do. Noting logic of buffer zones… 😉 where, precisely, does that lead. Quiz pretty soon!
Mr P
ParticipantRemarking that phrase …. are taught to dehumanize their enemies from a young age, all financed with American tax dollars…. might be by some thought to be somewhat misleading, inaccurate and, the trite part (tax dollars), particularly so. For the financing of this vast crime spree originates not from tax paid, but by debt undertaken by a nazi junta in the name of the people of America, in combination with rent extraction facilitated by servile foreign fascist outposts. Proposing the trite and possibly misleading phrase be replaced with the more nearly true and brutal “illegitimate debt” or other suitable similar forms. These debts, sage boffin of finance and Marxist Theory Comrade Hudson and others say, will never be paid. Remarking that “paid” is a slippery concept. Indeed, they may well be paid out in the destruction of the nazi nest, in kind, so to say, and very possibly at the order of courts trying the criminals. Last time the payments took place at the end of a rope, so people saw the settlement of debts…although many escaped the obligation, that time.
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