💠@ejmalrai:
⭕ Announcement that death toll surpassed 50,000 didn’t faze anyone, not even in Gaza
⭕ retweet:
🔻 Hashkey: Worth reading on how the U.S and Israel undermined international ceasefire agreement.

Where are we heading ?
🔻 Roberta Sutton: US C-F at start of Trump’s presidency was seen as a triumph but when IL began breaking the terms as before, Witkoff, to everyone’s dismay did nothing to restore the C-F, finally blamed it all on Hamas. He OK’d BN’s wish to get rid of all the Pals. Gulf states are dismayed & cross |link|
[synopsis of latest article]
⭕ Nice discovery:
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Jeffrey Goldberg – The Atlantic Editor in chief- Its War Plans.
U.S. national-security leaders included him in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen.

It is clear that the US:
1. Knows nothing about the Houthis (as in the text of the DoD minister
2. Its narrative is to blame Biden and Iran repeatedly.
3. Secure and restore the Red Sea navigation (won’t happen).
4. Reestablish deterrence (won’t happen)
5. Blackmail Egypt (when the Suez Canal will regain full traffic) and Europe (that benefit of 40% navigation of goods destined to the Continent) |link|
🔻 Ωmar: Do you think this is legit? I have a hard time believing anything published by that ridiculous tabloid.
🔻 EM: From the president, DoD reactions, and the way the article was written to avoid severe legal accountability, Yes.
🔻 Ωmar: Interesting. If it is genuine, this is a disastrous leak. This level of incompetence is terrifying
🔻 Moon of Alabama: Smells of an intended ‘leak’.
🔻 EM: From the careful way the article was drafted to avoid legal consequences, and the reaction and embarrassment of many US officials involved, including Vice President Vance’s criticism of President Trump, I am not sure it was intentional.
🔻 Khalil ✋🏻🫳🏻: How does an ex-IDF prison guard now journo for The Atlantic accidentally get added to a secret Signal gc which includes only members of what is essentially Trump’s war council? In what scenario would this actually happen?
🔻 Roberta Sutton: the administration is nothing but a bunch of amateurs
🔻 EM: Even worse: arrogant amateurs.
🔻 Roberta Sutton: yes they don’t know what they’re doing let alone what they’re up against
⭕ Many heads could fall in this US administration |link|
[who cares?! As Tuco once said, whilst hog-tied on the ground in front of the Sheriff’s office: “Look! One bastard goes in, and another comes out”]
⭕ Hamas agreed to free five hostages; Israeli official: We want 11
[and whatever Hamas accepts will be changed and more demanded. Reality: the hostages were condemned in 2023. This is about forcing the Palestinians to chose one of two: Exodus or total Annihilation. The historical narration of the People of the Trench informs the Palestinians will chose Annihilation, and thereby the ensure the ultimate revenge on the messianic: the total counter-Annihilation to follow within months of all jews on the Holy Land. Karma in the works…]
⭕ The US is bombing Saada in Yemen, and Ansar Allah has decided to concentrate its bombing on Ben Gurion airport in Israel and attack the USS Harry Truman. It is not easy to deter Ansar Allah unless Israel lifts the siege of Gaza and stops the war against the Palestinian people.
⭕ For the second time in less than a week, Israel is bombing the Tadmur (Palmyra) airport and nearby areas in Syria, where reports suggest Turkey plans to establish a military base and airport. The strikes appear aimed at disrupting future Turkish military long-term presence.
⭕ This morning, under the shadow of an ICC warrant for war crimes, the unaccountable Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered fresh bombings on Gaza—killing 24 more people. Another day, another round of bloodshed, as the world watches.
⭕ For the first time since the new Syrian leadership took control of Syria, Israel bombed Qoya village in rural Daraa, killing 7 civilians.
[this is southern Syria, abutting the Golan.. could be good news, of Druze refusing to merge with zionazi Druze and become a protectorate. Arabism and self-respect remains strong in the Druze. Or could be more systematic extermination of all amalek, north to south, east to west in Greater Syria]
⭕ retweet:
🔻 Al Jazeera English: In a leaked video, Israel’s ambassador to Austria, David Roet, was seen suggesting that Palestinian minors should be killed. |link|
[yeah, Österreich is the proper venue to discuss the creation of lebensraum. It should induce nostalgia or melancholia for their old days. Arnold should feel really juiced these days]

💠@imetatronink:
⭕ ⁉️ Chat Room Leak, or Deliberate Misdirection?

I’ve just read some of the details of the “chat room leak” of a discussion between Trump admin principals regarding strikes in Yemen.

The chat participants want to frame US operations in Yemen as primarily serving European interests, with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth emphasizing that point in a complaining tone.

In my view, this is deliberate misdirection. It is US interests that are being served here.

As I have noted several times in recent weeks and months, in order for the US to make war against Iran, the passage from the Red Sea to Kuwait must be secured for US seaborne logistics. THAT is the true objective of these air strikes against Yemen: to disarm Ansarullah so US sealift ships can safely pass through the Bab el-Mandeb.

And yet, despite several days of relentless bombing, CSG-8 (USS Trembling Puppy) is still hiding out in the northern reaches of the Red Sea, well out-of-range of Yemeni missiles. So apparently they have yet to degrade Yemeni capabilities to the point where they dare to risk a transit of the southern Red Sea and the Gate of Lamentation.

(For elaboration on this point, see my post linked in the reply below.)
📜 Geography
🔻 Ephemeral: I think it was Col. Davis who said in an interview that Pentagon’s plan is to bomb Yemen for over a month. So that would allow US to clear for a month and make that deadline of May 5th
🔻 WS: If the US wants to continue to attrit its precision munitions stores via strikes on Yemen, the Iranians will gladly cater their meals.

And at the end of it all, US seaborne logistics will still be threatened in the southern Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden.
🔻 Tabby: Will what happens if US drops multiple small nukes, what sort of damage will it cause in human terms & how will it change the battlefield
🔻 WS: I am very dubious it would meaningfully change the battlefield, neither in Yemen nor Iran.

But I’m certain it would meaningfully — and permanently — change the world.

And not for the better.
[this is what both Iran and Yemen now prepare for. What is being misinterpreted as hesitation or cowardice, or lack of initiative or resolve. Furious preparation underway.. And the price for the demented shall be total, on both their regional bases, proxies, and those of their stormtroopers that survive Armageddon. This is the Way of the Holy Land. The Carthaginian Treatment for losers who rolled all the dice – literally wiped from the rolls of history, like amalek. And they’ll bankrupt them and cut all sea lanes for good too. Stock up on the Last Toilet Paper Rolls! Or better learn to build outhouses and squat like Yemenis, and use swords and archery too]
🔻 Yodysseus: When you say “US interests that are being served”, do you mean “Netanyahu interests”? How does the US making war against Iran serve US interests?
🔻 WS: The rationale is that cutting the Chinese off from Iranian oil (and other Persian Gulf energy supplies) is a necessary prelude to weaken China in advance of an inevitable war in the western Pacific.
🔻 Eomar – Diligent News: ‘We are doing it for Europe’ was the give away
[links his older:
“I think I understand the ‘accidental’ inclusion of a journalist in signal chats…

1. It is implying that Europe is the beneficiary of us strikes in Yemen .

2. It is implying they didn’t know israel would ‘act first’

Yemen didn’t block ALL traffic, they said they would target Israeli traffic. So the 40% European traffic comment is disingenuous. Yemen only did this AFTER israel broke the ceasefire by resuming blockade etc.

I think the ‘leak’ was intentional to distract/deflect from US complicity in the ongoing genocide in Gaza.”]
🔻 Alexander Guy: This has nothing to do with European or American interests. It’s Israel
🔻 Kenan Beg: Thanks Will. Very rational analysis. I too think this bombing Yemen chat group seems far fetched, but with heavy bombers redeploying to Diego Garcia today, there is game in play and the ultimate destination is Iran, as Netanyahu has wanted for years. But today’s Iran is not alone
🔻 John: but… bombing Iran is ultimately nothing to do with promoting the interests of the American people. This is purely a Jewish/zionist objective… once again proving that the US government is controlled by a foreign power- messianic talmudism.
🔻 Nathan J Robinson: what’s funny to me about this story is that The Atlantic is so obviously a core part of the pro-war propaganda apparatus that someone thought of adding the editor in chief to a Pentagon group chat. He thinks this makes Trump admin look bad, I think it makes Atlantic look bad too.
🔻 Arnaud Bertrand: Another likely possibility that I see almost no-one discussing, given the fact that The Atlantic and Jeffrey Goldberg specifically are indeed a core part of the pro-war propaganda apparatus, is that this is actually a pro-war propaganda psyop.

When something is a bit too incredible to be real, the first logical thing you ought to ask yourself is whether it’s real…

And when you look at the conversation, it’s a bit too “on message” and too caricatural to pass the sniff test: the conversation is basically “we bomb the Houthis to help restore freedom of navigation out of the goodness of our hearts; we bail Europeans again, these free-loaders owe us big time”, topped with three emojis (a fist, an American flag, and fire) to pat themselves on the back when they’ve bombed Muslims in the Middle-East yet again.

I mean, seriously?

So either they really are this cartoonishly simplistic, with just as little sophistication in their private deliberations as they do in public (with the added bonus of the incompetence at play in handling military information), in which case it’s legitimately scary, or this is staged propaganda designed to shape the narrative around Yemen strikes.

One thing is certain though, the fact that almost no Western media that I could identify asks this obvious question, and instead automatically and uncritically assumes this is real shows that for one the Western media ecosystem is in fact as cartoonishly simplistic and incompetent as we think they are.

(This is obviously not meant to be a critique of @NathanJRobinson and @curaffairs who are actually one of the rare good ones, I do this as an RT of him because he was one of the only ones to raise the fact that The Atlantic is a core part of the pro-war propaganda apparatus).
⭕ 🤣 Three New Ukrainian Army Corps?

For those unfamiliar with army terms, an “Army Corps” is a collection of ~10 brigades. Three Army Corps would total ~150,000 combat troops.

There is no possible way Ukraine can equip, train, field, and sustain such a force anymore.
[links:
🔻 MilitaryLand.net: “The formation of three new Army Corps within the Ukrainian Ground Forces is underway. We’re the first to report and reveal their high-definition insignias, redrawn by our contributor!” |link|]
🔻 Warwick Powell | 鲍韶山: At estimated KIA rates that’s <90 days.
🔻 WS: Even if they had that many bodies, they’re not soldiers. And were they soldiers, there is no meaningful quantity of war-making stuff to outfit them. It’s all just silly talk.

Not even the US/NATO could assemble, equip, organize, and field such an army in less than a year.
🔻 TWHM: ‘Sourced’ from the UAF.

Until ~3 days ago, Zelensky was assuring all everything was going swimmingly in Kursk.

Iran’s muscling up in the Strait of Hormuz, and Ritter thinks a (low yield) nuke is on the cards to ‘deter’ Iran;
🔻 Carborundum Crew: We live in a time where ever more ludicrous lies are peddled as the truth.

To expand on what you said, it will take a year or more just to train such a force.

Then you need weapons and munitions for them all, and not just M16s or AKMs or whatever. Also need ATGMs, drones …
🔻 Стефан Високи 1244 🇷🇸: It is only possible if the British, French, Germans and others from NATO wear those uniforms..
🔻 WS: Meh. In my view, Ukraine has fielded a more competent and formidable army than any combination of European NATO armies could ever match. They would be routed in short order. After just a few days, they would all look at each other and say, “Screw this. I’m outta here.”
🔻 Стефан Високи 1244 🇷🇸: We share the same opinion..I would add that it would significantly boost morale among the Russians and at least a million more volunteers..
[this is the astonishing fact about Yemenis and Russians. They’re just not normal. The Furnace of War only INCREASES their fervor, faith and will to prevail, even as the satanists in front of them melt, burn and fall away]
🔻 Sophia_Atossa 🇩🇪🕊🇷🇺: Quintili Vare, legiones redde!
🔻 Rune: One of these ‘corps’, the 3rd, is simply all the existing Azov units. This is just Hitler 1945 talk, putting window dressing titles on depleted units, and inventing imaginary ones out of drug-addled fantasy.
[yeah. As with more carrier battle groups deployed to the bottom of the Red and other Seas too. Half-baked half-manned stuff slapped together for the risible optics]
⭕ ⚓️ Uncle Chester’s Last Dance

The first-of-its-class USS Nimitz, commissioned in 1975, is kissing San Diego goodbye before heading west, final destination unknown.

This will be the swan song deployment for the grizzled veteran of many one-sided battles and Hollywood films.
[ah! R U thinking what I’m thinking?? Coulda be perfect… company for Pharaoh’s Chariots]
🔻 ThotSlayer: The U.S military is a cesspool of Freemason eugenics club f@990ts.
🔻 carlos fitzcarraldo: Lord, the Oreshnik geometry seems like it fits the deck of that ship perfectly… |keys hole|
🔻 Gran Maestro: With good chances of (deliberately?) not making it back…
🔻 Blog on the Margin: Final deployment before decommissioning? Sounds like the perfect patsy for a false flag attack.
[gonna be “decommissioned”, one way or the other. That’s for sure]
⭕ retweet of his old:
🧵 How to Lose A Carrier Strike Group in An Afternoon
🔻 Carborundum Crew: Orthogonal question.

Assume there is a war between China and the US during which CSGs on each side loses a carrier and other vessels.

Now, that is much less of a problem today for the US than it it is for China.

Of course, China has lots more other vessels, but
🔻 WS: Aircraft carriers are no longer useful for fighting other aircraft carriers. They are only useful for projecting power against countries that lack the capacity to shoot back at them. I don’t believe China would sortie its carriers against a US carrier flotilla.
🔻 Carborundum Crew: Hmmm, that is something to think about.

Does that change the equation on when will the US roll the dice? I am sure many in the command level in the US agree with Dylan Thomas: Do not go gentle into that good night!
🔻 WS: As I have asserted on several occasions, I am thoroughly convinced it is long-since too late for the US to make war against China in its local seas. It would be madness. The 7th fleet would be eviscerated. The US Navy would be driven beyond the second island chain for good.
🔻 Sellus Gravius 🪵🪓🦅: As soon as we started losing vessels our economy would completely crash and we would have riots across the country. The world would ditch the dollar en masse, they would completely divest from us and BRICS+ would cut us off from vital resources.

We would destroy ourselves.
🔻 WS: They would feast at a banquet of consequences.
🔻 Sellus Gravius 🪵🪓🦅: People don’t understand how quickly everything would go to shit economically for us. The entire world would seize the opportunity to break our fuckin knees and send the giant toppling down.

People who want war with China in WestPac are insane.
⭕ retweet:
🔻 zerohedge: Exposing The Chinese “Rent-A-Womb” Industry In America |link|
[nothing new. Most of the global south, and north, has been doing it for generations. But I suspect this is fuel for the unleashed “Red Menace of the Yellow Peril” tsunami. Absolute shameless degenerates]
🔻 orderflowstudent: all of irvine, CA is chinese birth farm industry
[is that true Californians?! LOL. The commentary is HILARIOUS. So many triggered lemmings, onboard the new Hate Carnivale]
🔻 MarginX Intern: Oh look, another US “exposing” propaganda.

Maybe you want to look <within> to see which country is actually dying and have tons of frauds exposed by Elon. 🤣😏 |link|
⭕🔻 Robin Monotti: THE PSYOP MUST GO ON!
🔻 WS: There’s a reason no one ever brags about the brand-new British suit they had tailored. Nouveau Frumpy has long been the most stylish cut in London.
[hey! The Crew of the Apocalypse must look good. Can you spot our redoubtable Admiral Radakin, Conquerer of Novorossiya and the Black Sea??]

I saw that earlier. It is getting hard to keep up. wars keep spreading. We’re gonna have to write off Sudan for now. Whilst the West and salafis are still around, they’re putty in their hands – like babes being toyed with in the cradle. But after Armageddon, their men will be among the heroes that rush to the Holy Land to help conclude matters.

Chad played a solid role protecting the western Sahelian Juntas and evicting Frenchie. But it took the thirty silver pieces from the Emirates too – hard for a dirt poor nation itself embroiled in wars for decades to say no to moneybags. Chad became a crucial logistical route for arms and mercenaries and whatnot fueling the Sudanese civil war.

Sudan DOES have a right to defend itself. It has actually lost more fighters than Hamas and Hezbollah combined in the brutal last year, and millions of internally and regionally displaced in the biggest disaster and genocide, including the Gaza.

Sudan will continue to be massacred because:

1. they are part of the Arab league, in an era ALL amaleks are slated for total extermination
2. a people who love the Palestinian cause and despise imperialism and slavery, having humbled the British Empire at its peak,
3. quite martial AND numerous like Yemenis,
4. and too close to the Holy Land for zionazi comfort (a direct land route, with only the intervening Egypt)

Their annihilation, like all USUK wars of the last century in the middle east, were to safeguard Zion come what may, and help birth the Moshiach.

And the Junta that leads them lacks all wisdom. Their sea of mistakes is mind-boggling, perhaps matched only by UkroNazis. They’ve been affiliated with Muslim Brotherhood, and even normalized with Netanyahoo! Their Junta general met with Zelensky to ingratiate himself with Empire, as late as Oct 2023 (photo). They repeatedly broke promises to Russians and delayed receiving their help until AFTER they lost the capital and much of the country. They’re now regaining it at a stupendous price that will take decades of recovery, if ever. Much of their country is Gaza’ed. Salafis and the Generals in their fractured Labyrinths – the plague of the global south. Unbelievable. The Sudanese elites of all persuasions committed seppuku to match that of western elites.

I will share the thread from yesterday in full. It is an important microcosm of the Last Drang underway against all those not among the Golden Billion. It appears, as EuroNazis were forced to bare teeth and show the real hateful face against Russkies, YanquiNazis are undergoing a similar metamorphosis under the marmalade morons – but directed against “the brown and the yellow”. But the Truth, like a Palestinian or Yemeni rock, always stands unmoved and self-evident, no matter the degree of hate thrown at it….

💠@imetatronink:
cont. thread
🔻 Scott Ritter: I’m curious.

You say you come from Vietnam.

But do you speak for Vietnam?

The Vietnam that signed the NPT in 1969.

Registered as a non-nuclear weapons state in 1982, thereby accepting the very premise of the treaty you seem to be rejecting—that there are, indeed, haves and have nots in the world of nuclear weapons.

That entered into a binding safeguards agreement with the IAEA in 1990, and the additional protocol in 2012, committing to the same obligations as Iran.

The Vietnam that became a member of the IAEA Board of Governors in 2021.

The Vietnam that voted in October 2024 to condemn Iran for engaging in the very Iranian behavior that you are praising.

The Vietnam whose position regarding Iran and nuclear proliferation coincides with my own stated position.

It seems to me you’re not Vietnamese when it comes to the NPT, Iran, and nuclear nonproliferation.

You’re just another radical anti-imperialist who literally knows nothing about the issues he engages in.
[aping Sony Thang’s unique writing style is not helping sophistry fighting for the vacuous satanic position. The brevity of single line expositions require refined stiletto minds on the moral high ground… not blunderbusses still doin’ “body counts” — the last argument amongst the warped mind circle jerks]
🔻 Sony Thang: I don’t speak for the state of Vietnam.

I speak from the soul of Vietnam.

The one that watched foreign empires burn its villages, poison its soil, and then write reports about peace.

You confuse official positions with moral clarity.

You think quoting IAEA protocols, board appointments, and diplomatic votes somehow erases the memory of craters, corpses, and chemical fires.

You think a flag at a table means the past is buried.

It isn’t.

Vietnam may sign treaties with the West.

But Vietnam’s soul remembers the cost of listening to Western promises.

You’re right: Vietnam joined the NPT.

Because we believed, for a moment, in peace.

Not in inequality.

Not in permanent second-class status for the Global South.

We signed with the hope that nuclear weapons would be rolled back universally.

Not used to preserve Western dominance while Israel stockpiles and the U.S. plots preemptive strikes.

So no—I don’t speak for the protocol signers.

I speak for the generation that crawled through tunnels while B-52s erased entire provinces.

I speak for the children still deformed by Agent Orange.

I speak for the poets who wrote by candlelight under bombing raids.

And I speak for every nation told to obey rules that the powerful ignore the moment they become inconvenient.

You ask if I speak for Vietnam?

Let me ask you this:

Do you speak for the United States?

Do you speak for the same U.S. that pulled out of the JCPOA, shredded treaties with Russia, rejected the ICC, and armed Israel’s open-air slaughterhouse in Gaza?

Do you speak for the America that taught the world “international law” means nothing if you sit atop the throne?

Because if you do—then no wonder you think law is static, and hypocrisy is policy.

You said earlier that “history holds America accountable.”

No, Scott.

That’s just what empire says when it thinks it’s safe.

History doesn’t hold you accountable.

We do.

And Iran, like Vietnam before it, does not need permission from its violators to resist.

Whether with a rifle, a pen, or a nuclear warhead.

So mock all you want.

Your arrogance isn’t impressive.

It’s exposed.

And it ends the way all imperial arrogance ends.

Not with applause.

But with reckoning.
🔻 Scott Ritter: Thanks for allowing this insight into the alternative reality that defines your universe.

In the real world there is the NPT.

Iran signed it.

And shall be accountable to it.

Whether your revisionist soul likes it or not.
[note the loyal soldier stopped bothering with lost arguments and closed the loop by returning to and emphasizing the central objective of the whole thrust: the Drang on Persia. The Murder-Suicide remains on track, esp among operatives on the psywar sector shaping stale narrative that expired twenty years ago]
🔻 Sony Thang: Scott, in your “real world,” the law is only law when it chains the enemy.

In your “real world,” Israel—a nuclear-armed apartheid regime that never signed the NPT—commits open genocide in Gaza, assassinated Iranian scientists, launched countless wars of aggression, and no one holds it “accountable.”

Why?

Where is this righteous, rules-based order when Tel Aviv builds doomsday weapons in the shadows?

When was Israel ever dragged before your “international law”?

When did the West ever sanction its nukes?

Nowhere.

Because in your world, the strong write the rules in ink and erase them in blood.

So let me return the favor:

Thanks for this glimpse into the psychological theater of Western hypocrisy.

Where treaties are holy only when they shackle those the empire fears, and ignored the moment they restrain its attack dog.

You call my words “revisionist”?

No, Scott.

What’s revisionist is pretending the NPT was ever meant to be just.

What’s revisionist is pretending Hiroshima wasn’t a genocidal warning shot to the world.

What’s revisionist is pretending America honors treaties.

When it tears them up, from Iran to Russia, the moment they become inconvenient.

And what’s delusional is imagining that Iran must submit forever.

While its scientists are murdered, its people sanctioned, its sovereignty violated.

All while Israel stockpiles nuclear warheads under Western protection.

So tell me, Scott:

Where is Israel in your “real world”?

Is it above the law?

Outside the treaty?

Or is it simply your exception that proves the rule?

That might makes right, and empire never binds itself to the chains it forges for others?

You see, you don’t actually believe in law.

You believe in obedience.

Iran signed the NPT, yes.

But unlike Israel, unlike the U.S., it hasn’t violated it.

Yet here you are—threatening it with nuclear annihilation unless it bows.

That’s not “nonproliferation.”

That’s psychological projection.

That’s empire staring into a mirror and fearing the day someone refuses to kneel.

And if that day comes?

It won’t be a violation of law.

It’ll be the first time the law of power cuts both ways.

And that, Scott, is the part your “real world” was never prepared for.
🔻 Africa is beautiful: The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty is a con game. It presupposes that only the West can be trusted to handle nuclear weapons safely, which is an utter fallacy. The only reason they wouldn’t want countries like Iran to have nuclear weapons is that it would neutralize their power to blackmail these countries into submission.
Gaddafi gave up his nuclear weapons program, and we all know the fate that befell him.
🔻 Will Anders: Great response, Sony. I don’t know what happened to many US Americans I used to listen to, but whatever it is, it is something dark.
🔻 𝐃𝐎𝐏𝐀𝐌𝐈𝐍𝐄 𝐃𝐄𝐅𝐈𝐂𝐈𝐓: These marines go to war because of the propaganda they believe. It doesn’t have to be balanced or just. The fact is that they believe the commander and are ready to die for it.
So, no matter what you say to Scot, he’ll always be a propaganda pushing marine.

Him agreeing with you would mean all those wars and killings were for nothing.
🔻 Rina Lu🇷🇺: The only truly authentic thing Ritter does is be rude. Everything else is just recycled ideas he’s picked up from others. I saw it clearly when it came to Ukraine and Russia, his so-called expertise is nonexistent.

After obvious legal troubles in his own country, which he tries to spin as a setup, he’s just trying to stay afloat. Too bad lots of people buy it.
🔻 Allison: Well said. Scott’s whole argument is based on hypocrisy. For the US it’s always been, you do as we say and not as we do.
🔻 Hadelibi☝♡: I’m telling you, debating with Sony is like stepping into quicksand – every argument built on double standards, you throw just sinks you deeper in cold, hard facts.
🔻 uptohere: When criminals reign their crimes become the law of the land
🔻 Enejo Abdu: “But what good is a treaty that binds the weak and exempts the strong?”
🔻 Carsten H.: What is the value of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty if international law is trampled on and the UN, WHO, and Amnesty International are institutions that are being instrumentalized?

The empire never follows rules, it bends and abuses them. It creates them for oppression.

WE ARE WITNESSING A GENOCIDE.

Agreement is a weapon of mass destruction.

WE ARE WITNESSING THE COLLAPSE OF WESTERN VALUES.

The mask is finally off.

The whole global war on terror, was a narrative to support Zionism and imperialism as its mother.
🔻 Yuliana Dlugaj 🇷🇺🇨🇳🇰🇵: This isn’t about treaties, law, or even nukes.

If it were, Israel would be disarmed and India treated like NK.

It’s about keeping Israel on top—a bully scared his victims might bulk up.

So he rants about the “dangers” of lifting and says only his crew should be armed.
🔻 Scott Ritter: I’m always curious about people like you who post about me as if you actually know anything about the positions I’ve taken on the topics being addressed.

Take, for instance, Israel and nuclear weapons.

If you actually followed my position, you’d know I condemn Israel’s possession of nuclear weapons and repeatedly called out the hypocrisy of the US in facilitating the Israeli nuclear weapons program. That I’ve repeatedly called for Israel’s nuclear disarmament.

But instead of doing your research, you post some inane analogy about weightlifting.

Sadly, you are typical of the genre.
🔻 Yuliana Dlugaj 🇷🇺🇨🇳🇰🇵: If you condemn Israel for having nukes—a U.S. client state fully backed by your government—you can’t argue against Iran possibly wanting to achieve parity, regardless of what piece of paper they signed or didn’t.

Take the world as it is, not as you wish it were.
[he does, with the filter of one Mensch on top. And like Macgregor he’s smart enough to recognize the choice he’s made, hence the shit faces and weak arguments.. their point is to withdraw, rebuild & refit, then relaunch at future dates..]
🔻 Orthodox Ruscism☦️🇷🇺: So US is going to invade Iran for thinking about creating nukes but they are not going to invade Israel for actually having them?🤷
🔻 Wojtek Palczynski 🧯: The only countries not getting destroyed and robbed blind by yankee murderers are the ones with nukes.
🔻 Shahab: Scott, pack it up, bro.

Take the L like a man.

Accept that you are not intellectually and morally prepared for this argument and just go back to shit posting for your 19 fans.
🔻 Bill Bottrell: “You mistake legalism for justice” – a concept I’ve not had words for but always needed. thanks. Well stated.
🔻 WS: The Thang Man is a poet extraordinaire, as well as a towering logician and rhetorician. He dismantled in detail Ritter’s disingenuous argument. It was a work of polemic art.
🔻 Dr. Anton: Extraordinary to read

It is unbearable. Here’s the tiniest selection

💠 @Seyed Mohammad Marandi:
⭕ Trump and Netanyahu murdered these kids early this morning.
⭕  Trump’s Middle East Envoy Steve Witkoff repeated the bogus Hamas mass rape claim on the Tucker Carlson show.

Why is it that a surveillance regime like Israel can’t provide evidence of such rapes or beheadings, yet footage of Palestinians being raped in their dungeons is leaked? |media|
⭕ Al-Qaeda and ISIS have long functioned as tools utilized by the US. Only those indoctrinated by decades of hateful, sectarian propaganda (funded by oil- and gas-rich Salafi and Wahhabi family dictatorships allied with the US) remain blind to this reality. |media|
⭕ The Zionist regime slaughtered her daughter.

Western-funded “human rights” and “women’s rights” NGOs remain collectively silent.

#GazaHolocaust |media|
⭕ Watch Zionist bomb tents full of families! |media|
⭕ Trump is a childkiller.
His supporters are childkillers.
#GazaHolocaust |media|
⭕️ Trump, Netanyahu, and Witkoff murdered her son.

#GazaHolocaust |media|
⭕ She is one of over 400 Palestinian children and infants slaughtered by Trump and Biden over the past few days.

Why are Western journalists silent? Why don’t Western diplomats protest? Why aren’t the well-funded Western “human rights” NGOs outraged? |media|
⭕ The Zionist regime has bombed southern Lebanon all day, proving even to the most naive or intellectually dishonest that it seeks excuses for murder and aggression.

This woman is among today’s victims.

💠@imetatronink:
⭕ cont. thread:
📜 Geography
🔻 Eomar – Diligent News: Too many Americans literally have NO idea what we are being led into and how destructive it would be to America. One way or another our empire is ending, we seem to be back on the path of most pain. |link|
🔻 BenLayZenji: “War is God’s way of teaching American geography.” (Ambrose Bierce)

🔻 infohazard: The US isn’t going to invade Iran, Trump is not that crazy. They might launch some missiles though
🔻 WS: I agree. A US ground invasion of Iran is a material and logistical impossibility.

But if the US/Israel launch missiles and/or airstrikes against Iran, the Iranians are certain to return the favor.
🔻 Timothy Leary’s Dead 🏴‍☠️🌱🐑🐕 🎣🎇👀🐈‍⬛⚠️🎲: They won’t invade. They’ll use nukes. Scott Ritter says that is the US game plane to take out their nuclear facilities and leadership.
🔻 WS: #BatshitCrazy silly talk.
[indeed. They are so. Passion of the Worst. Sons of Truman, which incidentally is in theatre]
🔻 Timothy Leary’s Dead 🏴‍☠️🌱🐑🐕 🎣🎇👀🐈‍⬛⚠️🎲: There’s batshit crazy people in the White House, and a Christian, white supremacist, fundamentalist crusader running the defense department. I wouldn’t put anything past them. Trump would love to use nukes, the thought probably gets him hard.
🔻 Timothy Leary’s Dead 🏴‍☠️🌱🐑🐕 🎣🎇👀🐈‍⬛⚠️🎲: Scott Ritter thinks that if Trump attacks, he’ll go in with nukes and end it in a day. Says that’s the US game plan.
[for once I endorse Scotty! Even a broken clock strikes the right time twice daily. But note Scotty was selling the NECESSITY of nuking Iran, what a POS.]
🔻 WS: I think Scott needs to adjust his medication dosages.
⭕ cont thread:
📜 The Weakling Wunderwaffe

The F-35 Lightning II “Joint Strike Fighter” is destined to go down in military history as arguably the most ill-conceived, incompetently engineered, and combat-ineffectual large-scale production aircraft of the jet propulsion era.
🔻 Eastern tractorist 🇪🇺: How effective are aircraft carriers with F35Bs? The logistics and maintenance on the sea have to be painful.
🔻 WS: F-35Bs don’t fly off the big carriers. They are designed for the mostly decrepit US Wasp-class Amphibious Assault Ships, of which, iirc, only a couple have F-35B squadrons. Most still carry AV-8B Harriers.

Only the USS Lincoln and USS Vinson carry F-35Cs — 10 each.
🔻 Eastern tractorist 🇪🇺: Yeah I knew that but still having climatised hangars on deck together with moisture and salt in the air… It sounds like a nightmare to mechanics and sailors on the board
🔻 WS: Have you seen what F-35s look like when they return from a deployment? |link|
⭕ cont thread:
‼️ Sudzha Road of Death
🔻 Dima Pat: U should watch a movie “come and see” to understand at least a bit about russians and fascism nazism!!!!!!!
🔻 WS: I think I’ve seen it before, although it has been a long time. Isn’t that the one where the young kid becomes a partisan to fight the Nazis?
🔻 Comrade Costermonger: Yes.

Always watch it regularly for it be the best anti-war film of all time. It took me 30 years to watch it the 2nd time.
⭕ ⁉️ Nuke Iran? 🤦‍♂️

Ok, for all those people who seriously believe the US is going to launch a decapitating nuclear first strike against Iran, I have a few questions. Here is the first:

How will these strikes be delivered?
🔻 Rylko: Diego Garcia? The US teases b2 and b52 runs from the Indian Ocean towards Iran. Wont happen imo though
🔻 WS: That doesn’t really address my question.

Bear in mind, there are only three options I can think of right off hand: ICBMs, sub-launched Tomahawks, B-61 gravity bombs — and the efficacy of all three options is questionable.
🔻 Rod Miller: Why? (not challenging this, but how can we bear something in mind if we don’t understand why it is?)
🔻 WS: Those are the only means by which the US can deliver a nuclear weapon. At least that I’m aware of.
🔻 Rod Miller: I mean: Why are they questionable? Any bomb has to be delivered by an aircraft — OK, dicey. And the Tomahawk is subsonic, so perhaps also dicey. But ICBMs sound very difficult to counter.
🔻 WS: Very few of the silo-based US ICBMs are likely to exit the ground. The horror stories about the condition of the Minuteman III installations are beyond belief.

US Trident II SLBMs are probably in better condition — but the recent British tests raise doubts.
🔻 Rod Miller: That *would* be embarrassing: We tried to destroy Iran’s nuclear programme, but our nukes didn’t work.
🔻 Literally Me: Why do we assume the US has not developed glide, cruise, or rocket assist strap on packages to the b61? We’ve seen how easy it is with jdam, jdam-er, glsdb, FAB, etc
[those assist straps only further the distant by 20-70 km or so, according to design/country. Iran is 1,000s of km deep, with many installations far from coast. And their AD cover is 4-600km beyond the coast for missiles. So it is likely either thousands of Tomahawks mass-launched, or ICBMs..]
🔻 Thingsneedtochange: Tomahawks.
🔻 WS: Tomahawks work really well against countries that lack the ability to shoot them down. Otherwise, they are old and slow. And I doubt there are very many — as in maybe a few dozen — that are nuclear armed.
🔻 Dr. Anton: Can Iran shoot down ICBMs?
🔻 WS: They have untested missiles designed to do so.
🔻 Rylko: Tomahawks from the Med sea and B-61 gravity bombs from Garcia.
Delivery systems that would not guarantee to provoke a response from Russia. Tactical nukes and no ICBM’s if that better answers your question.
🔻 DS: ICMB launch from North America would not be an option.
[good point. It would raise significant risk with Russia-China-DPRK. Systems closer in, and perhaps avoiding even sub-launched ICBMs.. plays into Iranian defense, unless the satanists go full retard and launch against all opponents at once]
🔻 Marked safe from Western Propaganda: Scott Ritter talked about it earlier Garland Nixons show with Andrei
🔻 WS: What was Martyanov’s reaction to Ritter’s assertion that the US will use nukes against Iran?
[Typical islamophobia. Full agreement with Scotty that Yanquis “have right” , to paraphrase, to nuke Iran, to deny Iran their own nukes, because … well they’re Mullahs. Some will go to the grave with their hatreds]
🔻 Scott Ritter: B-2 bombers and Trident missiles.

It’s the logical inference from the nuclear posture guidance directing the creation of B61-12, and for the W-76-2.

Next?
[Scotty enters the chat!]
🔻 WS: The B-2 is a big, fat, old, slow, not-particularly-stealthy aircraft that the Russians and Iranians will see coming from a LONG way off, and which they can almost certainly target and kill.

A Trident packing a 7kt W-76-2 is not going to make an appreciable dent in Iran’s deep underground sites, and they certainly aren’t going to eliminate Iran’s capability to shoot back afterwards.

There is no doubt the US can kill a few million Iranian civilians with nuclear strikes, but there is no way they are going to be able to disarm Iran with a nuclear first strike.

Furthermore, if the US launches a nuclear strike against Iran, it will mean war against Russia and China, for the simple reason that they (the US) will have revealed themselves to be crazy lunatics that must be confronted and stopped immediately.
[our redoubtable Marine leaves the chat. When he receives the next memo with the proper talking points, he’ll return to the chat…]
🔻 Nik Stankovic: For the last paragraph I wonder if that is true.

Consider another scenario: would US go to war with Russia if Russia nuked Kiev?

Lots of people would say “of course”. But would it? Trade New York for Odessa? And Los Angeles for Kharkov?
[false equivalence. 404 is the proxy nazi aggressor being put down. Iran is the sovereign defender who never invaded and attacked any Anglo pirate living 10,000 km away]
🔻 WS: I adamantly disagree that Russia and China would “stand down” if the US nukes Iran. In my view, both the Russians and the Chinese would regard a nuclear attack against Iran as an existential threat against them both.
[yep]
🔻 Ryan Dwyer: There is no chance either would retaliate. It wouldn’t even be given substantial consideration.
🔻 WS: [posts in reply this excerpt from earlier]
🔻 Nik Stankovic: I think China most definitely would. Would Russia die for Iran? I am sorry I just don’t buy that.

I think Russia/China relationship with Iran is solid. But die for them? I don’t think so.

I don’t think US would die for UK, much less Germany or France. All of it makes sense for me.

Die here means entire nation disappear, because that is what we are talking about with nuclear weapons. Not having 10K-20K soldiers die on some battlefield. That’s potentially tolerable.
🔻 WS: 📜 All for One and One for All
🔻 Nik Stankovic: Call me skeptical.

Flashback to say 1999. NATO bombs Serbia. Russia is pissed off. Russia’s VP plane heading for the US turns around mid-Atlantic as first NATO bombs fall on Serbia.

Many in Serbia say “Russia will threaten to nuke the US, this will end in no time”.

Does Russia do that? No. Russia protests, calls UN Security Council sessions, even sends a few AA missiles on a diplomatic missions (or so the story goes). Later it would send a few tanks to Kosovo to confront NATO.

But it never threatens to nuke NATO.

Many Serbs are disappointed and think Russia betrayed Serbia.

I don’t think so. Are people crazy? That’s now how things work. Nuclear is nuclear, it’s the end.

Russia is not nuking Kiev today not because it’s afraid anyone would nuke it back. They just don’t think it’s necessary, and there would be a cost, diplomatic and economic, and of course moral. But not reciprocal.

Same thing for Iran. If Iran was nuked, US/Israel would pay a very high price. But they would not be nuked by Russia or China. Sure, they would protest, sanction and cut off ties. They wouldn’t nuke in response for Iran.

That is the reality.
🔻 WS: I made no suggestion that Russia would actually nuke the US. But they would know beforehand if the US was seriously contemplating a nuclear attack against Iran, and might very well announce Iran was being taken under the Russian nuclear umbrella in order to deter it.

And, it should also be noted that 1999 was a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.
🔻 Nik Stankovic: I think Russia would put in “best effort” it does not happen. Putin would call Netanyahu and Trump and “sternly warn that there will be serious consequences if they attack Tehran with nukes” (we already know nothing happens with conventional).

It might work. However, if Israel and US choose to ignore the warning, I just don’t think anything more than financial, humanitarian, economic and even military aid would happen from Russia or China. Military aid being some missiles and perhaps even some boots on the ground to maintain sovereignty.

To be fair to US (Trump) and Israel, I don’t think they would go into it lightly. They know they would pay a very high price for it. It would be the official end of the empire.
[put it this way, and it may mirror imperial mindsets, maybe Russia & China ARE taking stronger lines. Permitting this type of savagery to be unleashed will harm them too in the end, so the time to avert it is at the very beginning, per Father Niemöller or the parable of the Three Bulls & the Lion]
🔻 ₦₳V𝚜𝚝é𝚟𝚊 🇷🇺 ᴢ: Irrespective of how strikes could be delivered, I don’t believe Russia or China would go to war if they were.
🔻 WS: There are many different ways to fight a war these days.

We’ve just witnessed the US fight a war against Russia for over three years without “formally” being in a state of war.

I don’t understand why this concept remains so hard to understand when placed in a different context.
🔻 ₦₳V𝚜𝚝é𝚟𝚊 🇷🇺 ᴢ: My mistake. I thought you were saying that Russia and/or China would militarily defend Iran if she came under nuclear attack. I don’t believe. for one minute, that they would risk nuclear war with the US over Iran.
🔻 AlaskaJon: Incredible people can’t comprehend the different ways to fight a war that are staring them in the face.
[and all begun by the Empire of Lies which has refused to declare formal wars since WW2… coming to bite them in the ass]
🔻 trolley problem enjoyer🚃🛤️: As they do against Yemen. No formal declaration of war, but the missile stocks are getting depleted and the ships are getting worn down. Doing it officially means more oversight, unofficially means less caution. But it’s always a figleaf for failed politics.
🔻 Framed Mollusk: I don’t want this to happen to Iran. But if it does, and USA launches serious attack including nukes, Iran will buckle as fast as Iraq. Nobody should have any illusions about that. Neither China nor Russia will step in to fight that war.
🔻 WS: I would not make that bet. Iran 2025 bears no resemblance whatsoever to Iraq in 1991 or 2003.

And you are misinformed about how Russia and China would react to a US nuclear strike against Iran.
🔻 Winsome Pines: Once a country uses a nuke, it’s existential for everyone. That country cannot be trusted not to first strike ANY country. All nukes would be unleashed. MAD.
[Likely not unleashed, but a lowered threshold of future use which would through miscalculation, accident or fear likely lead to the next use. A self-licking ice cream cone, like the US hog trough]
🔻 Caligula’s Horse: Question is timing. The Russians and Chinese would conclude that the US regime is a rabid dog that needs to be put down. But putting it down might require careful planning and coordination such that the world isn’t ended. There would be retaliation – but perhaps not immediately.
[exactly. If this conclusion has not already been reached, which I suspect it may have been by Feb 4, 2022, at the start of the Beijing Olympics]
🔻 Minotaur: @nikstankovic_ not only I agree with @imetatronink but I think that in the past 3 years we have come quite close to a first strike from Russia and China happening.

US lack of rational leadership, its actions and words, certainly made the question to be discussed, I think.
🔻 Boss Boss: Submarines. But what s the point?
🔻 WS: So … old, slow Tomahawk cruise missiles? Likely to get shot down, and incapable of significant penetration. Sure, you could probably kill a few million civilians in Tehran, but you’re not going to meaningfully degrade Iranian counterstrike capability.
[scorched earth retreat. And to set Iran back awhile, for Pax Judaica to breath alittle while longer, and lord it over holocausted arabs, before the demons are expunged]
🔻 Tabby: But they will use this to start a civil war & throw Ayotollahs out
[good point. a political move, to seed unrest or at the least chaos for a while]
🔻 Boss Boss: Well then ICBMs. Still no point either. If the iranians destroy Aramco we are screwed.
🔻 SIMPLICIUS Ѱ: Most people don’t realize US can only deliver them via gravity bombs, requiring the “invisible” F-35s to fly directly over Iran’s air defenses. That’s not believable for obvious reasons, not least of which being F-35 doesn’t have the combat range to reach most internal targets inside Iran and back.
🔻 Dan Lynch: What about missiles launched from subs? Other than the fact that Iran may be able to intercept our missiles.
🔻 SIMPLICIUS Ѱ: That would risk nuclear holocaust as Russian (and potentially Chinese, etc.) ballistic missile detection would assume the missiles are a first strike, which would allow an immediate “total nuclear exchange” response destroying the U.S.
🔻 WS: Even if the Russians and Chinese were informed beforehand, I strongly believe it would mean war against them if the US did something crazy like nuke Iran.

Nuking Iran, imo, is so crazy even the fools in Washington aren’t dumb enough to do it.
🔻 newscooters: Just one nuke would set an awful precedent. Soon, it would be just one more.
🔻 PJ 🦧: I’d never say they aren’t dumb enough to do it. American exceptionalism has rotted the brain
🔻 Framed Mollusk: The issue is, US may see this as existential need. Their conventional power is diminishing, and they need fear. Trump loves to be feared. 1+1=2.
🔻 Dale Dick: Hope youre right. Theres higher levels of malignent idiocy in this new admin than even Bush 2 I think
🔻 Tod🏁🚩🏴🏳️: Somehow you attempt at lifting our morale is making me even more paranoid.
[LOL. Welcome to the Apocalypse]
🔻 Jesterus The Catificator: AGM-86 is still in service in the nuclear variant (W80 warhead, basically the same as B61 uses), carried by B-52. Only conventional AGM-86 variants were retired.
🔻 WS: Ok, let’s add the old, slow AGM-86 to the list.

Suppose they launch, say, 50 of them, and half get shot down by Iranian AD (not at all out of the question).

They have negligible penetrating power, and are unlikely to do meaningful damage to deep underground installations.
🔻 Jesterus The Catificator: I agree. But it is a viable option. It requires use of the even more ancient B-52, but if the AD gets saturated (with the use of other targets), it’s still a perfectly useful weapon. Lightyears better than a free fall bomb, and much less risky.
Still a dumb idea anyway.
🔻 HOBOTOWN3439: B2 , Isreali F-35 with bunker busters. B-
52 or B1. Sea launch tomahawk F18 growlers running point and super hornet support. Major cyber attacks first on Iran. They must guarantee a major knock-out blow. My own opinion is that this will be a mess from the beginning.
🔻 WS: Where they gonna launch F/A-18s from? Look at a map. Do the math.

And I just cannot believe any sort of gravity bomb can be delivered in the teeth of Iranian AD.

Iran is a very big place, and they can shoot back.
🔻 Neanderthal Intellectual: US subs carry Trident II D5 missiles as well.
🔻 WS: Yeah, that’s an ICBM. Is that the choice? Because there are some serious issues gonna arise if US subs start lobbing ICBMs around.
🔻 Thomas Stockmann: B-2? Isn’t penetrating advanced AD for nuclear strikes its original intended mission? That said, it’s a shame the imaging satellites China claims the ability to detect stealth aircraft with probably don’t cover Iran. A B-2 getting shot down would be an epic blow to US pride
🔻 WS: I double-dare a B-2 to fly over Iran — assuming they can actually get a couple of them airborne.
🔻 Thomas Stockmann: Not advocating it, rather just assuming it would have a greater chance of success than an F-35, no? Would enjoy hearing about how that assumption is wrong.
🔻 WS: The B-2 is a big, fat, old, slow, not-particularly-stealthy aircraft that the Russians and Iranians will see coming from a LONG way off, and which they can reliably target and kill.
🔻 Thomas Stockmann: I was aware the B-2 is pretty old but figured for the price it would still outperform the joke that is the F-35, interesting.
🔻 looooool 🇦🇺🇮🇹: The only thing I can think of is Iranian AD systems providing a protective shield against any nuclear attack. Perhaps that is so but I’m not so sure
🔻 Rod Miller: No effective defence against ICBMs exists, as far as I know.
Read Annie Jacobsen’s “Nuclear War — a scenario”. If, that is, you don’t mind spending the following nights staring rigid at the ceiling.
🔻 WS: If the Russians can shoot down ATACMS with their Buk systems, then I’ll bet they stand a very good chance of shooting down ICBMs with their S-500s.
🔻 گُم گشتہ: Will, sorry to interfere with a less relevant question. The Yemeni claim every now and then that they fired “Palestine-2 hypersonic missile” on Tel Aviv, but it seems they’re all intercepted by Israeli AD. Are Yemeni lying or Israeli AD can now shoot down HS missiles?
🔻 WS: There have been a few successful strikes by the Palestine-2. But it doesn’t appear to be super-duper reliable at the far limits of its range (~2000 km). They also haven’t launched very many of them. I don’t believe the Israelis shot down any. I think they just fell short.
🔻 Shehu Sada🇳🇬 شيحو سد: Well Iran is not Syria, they will retaliate, maybe hit Washington, they have the capacity and the ability, and Trump knows it. I believe this a game of chicken.
🔻 WS: Iran can’t hit Washington. But they don’t really need to. They just need to retain most of their counterstrike capability following a US nuclear strike.

And I am convinced that, if the US uses nukes against them, we will soon discover Iran is not alone.
🔻 Khaled Bin Ali🔻 خالد بن على: Is Diego Garcia within Iranian missiles reach?
🔻 WS: Very doubtful.
🔻 Tinu: yes without nuclear weapons iran is weak
🔻 James O’Malley: Top five military power with 100 million people is weak? 🤡 Go do some research kid.
🔻 Tinu: compared to usa its weak
🔻 James O’Malley: In some ways, but the USA can’t deploy much of its strength to the middle east. We couldnt even deploy 25-50k men into the theater currently. That’s nothing. We are only able to lob missiles and run away or hide. Iran is a huge nation.
🔻 Tinu: usa can take down the power grid in 3 days
🔻 James O’Malley: Probably not. Iran has a good air force and some of the best air defenses in the world. Plus any air base in the middle east would be put out of commission in an hour by iranian missiles and drones.
🔻 Tinu: Iran doesn’t have an air force Usa doesn’t need Air base to hit Iran
🔻 James O’Malley: Iran has the second largest air force in the middle east and the second largest number of aces next to Israel in the middle east. Iran has over 300 operational combat aircraft ready to go. USA has very limited strike capacity if flying all the way from the USA. Duh.
🔻 Tinu: All iranian planes are decommissioned US airplanes you are out of touch
🔻 James O’Malley: Wrong. @grok give me basic Iranian air force numbers of operational combat aircraft.
[these two could stand for Oliver & Hardy, playing ping pong til Kingdom Come. And best, no rancor. Just back and forth, back and forth. The wonders of twitterworld]
🔻 WS: Iran’s air force is unlikely to be a meaningful factor in the scenario we are discussing. Iran’s air defenses and counterstrike capability against US/Israeli bases and ships are its only meaningful strengths against a US/Israel attack.
🔻 James O’Malley: Are you implying the Iranian air wouldnt be a factor in a conventional attack against Iran? If so that is easily debunked.
🔻 WS: As I have written previously, I think the most likely use of the Iranian air force would be launching long-range AA missiles against US/Israeli refueling tankers. If successful, that would be a very meaningful achievement.
🔻 James O’Malley: They are capable of far more than that. Both the f 14s and f4s have modern radar and a2a missiles and both are faster and can fly higher than the f18s and f 35s we have. No f 35 equipped carriers near, Israel would struggle to put up meaningful numbers of F 15 over Iran.
[this guy’s tireless! He should be hired by the IRGC media office, or some psywar center. Indefatiguable]
🔻 James O’Malley: Are you aware Iran has the second most verified aces in the middle east second only to Israel? That’s knowledge has definitely been passed down and used.
[last bonus! and he’s still ranting in his own echochamber]
🔻 GumshudaKabul: Then All US bases will be hit with Hypersonic Missiles, and there will be no more US presence in Middle east!
Next?
[this was in response to Scotty above]
🔻@blizzarddd44: Hypersonic missiles aren’t some wonder weapon 😂😂
🔻 GumshudaKabul: Hahahaha, You will shit your pants Iron Dome couldn’t do much, neither sling pling one
🔻@blizzarddd44: Well first of all the US doesn’t use the iron dome… And second of all Iran doesn’t have true hypersonic missiles, so most of their ballistic missiles could be intercepted by the US
🔻 WS: Utter nonsense. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

There is exactly ZERO evidence the US air defense systems have EVER intercepted even ONE ballistic missile — not in Iraq, not in Ukraine, not in Israel; not against Patriot, THAAD, SM-3s, nor any Israeli interceptors.

The Iranian IRBMs blew right through US AD at Ayn al-Asad in 2020. The Russians blew right through US AD every time in Ukraine. And Iran again blew right through against Patriot, THAAD, SM-3, and “Iron Dome” both times they launched strikes at Israel in 2024.
🔻 Ibrahim: Technically, not that difficult. If delivered by airplanes, Iran might down a few. The nukes won’t stop Iran’s nuclear programme, so USA will further destroy its reputation for nothing. China, Russia and North Korea will be taking notes and adjusting their nuclear doctrines.
🔻 WS: Technically, it would be MUCH more difficult than most people are inclined to believe.

Air platforms launching gravity bombs would be VERY difficult. Sub-launched Trident II ballistic missiles are the surest bet — but the day that happens, the world changes forevermore.
🔻 no to blue 🇮🇪 Z: Why not a glide bomb? Wouldn’t that be capable of carrying a nuclear payload and also be relatively difficult to shoot down?
🔻 WS: Research the range of glide bombs. And then start doing measurements on Google Maps. Then ask yourself, “What are the potential problems with this tactic?”
⭕ Speaking of a US nuclear strike against Iran, and the Russian/Chinese reaction to it.

I agree 100%.
[links:
🔻 西方專家 expert on westoids: Setting a first strike precedent will only diminish their own security. Once this new doctrine is set, both 🇨🇳 & 🇷🇺 will be questioning whether they will be next for a preemptive ‘decapitation’ strike. They will update their own nuclear policies to something that 🇺🇸 may not like.”]
🔻 ₦₳V𝚜𝚝é𝚟𝚊 🇷🇺 ᴢ: Oh, wonderful – the end of the world.
🔻 AKR: US has first use policy. And after SMO, Russia also modified its nuclear doctrine to change from no first use.
🔻 Nuclear Toaster: First strike on US fom Russia and China should be every carrier that exist. One or two 900 kT warhead on each carrier should be enough to the NATO rats.
🔻 Olga Bazova: Russia has already upgraded its nuclear doctrine.
⭕🔻 Caitlin Johnstone:
Well that’s cool.
[links:
🔻 Bruce King: 🍉🗞️
Susan Sarandon @SusanSarandon full speech 👇

At the event, just ended, “Free Mahmoud, Free Palestine: Live Event in New York City” |media|]
🔻 WS: Well deserved, Caity.
🔻 Saman ❤️🖤🤍💚: Theodore Parker wrote in 1853: “I do not pretend to understand the moral universe; the arc is a long one, my eye reaches but little ways… But from what I see I am sure it bends toward justice.”

#Palestine has already won — not through might, but through truth, resilience, and unwavering spirit. Israhell may have weapons, but it has lost its soul, its legitimacy, and the world’s conscience.

History will remember who stood for #justice. And justice is on Palestine’s side.

#FreePalestine #EndTheOccupation
🔻 WS: Susan Sarandon gives a well-deserved shout-out to @caitoz. Caity is one of an increasingly rare breed: a poet historian.
⭕‼️ This is crazy stuff. Russian soldier sneaks up on a Ukrainian bunker carrying a heavy anti-tank mine; tosses it in; runs like hell. Huge explosion.

Then he does it again. |media|
🔻 SteveNZ106 🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🇳🇿: I imagine health and safety will be having words with Kier if he’s expecting British soldiers to get involved with that sort of malarkey. It looks quite dangerous to these eyes
🔻 Ex Services… i’ve seen enough death for lifetime: Russians my friend ..
It’s in the blood
🔻 Marta: Credere nei propri ideali😍
⭕🔻 The Associated Press: BREAKING: A Turkish court formally arrested the mayor of Istanbul and key rival to President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and ordered him jailed pending the outcome of a trial on corruption charges.
🔻 WS: Now Erdoğan has a tiger by the tail.

The entire region is sliding into an abyss of chaos.
🔻 Warwick Powell | 鲍韶山: Gee, who’d have thought.
🔻 Yasha: Erdogan is Bibi’s brother from another mother.

⭕ retweet of Sony Thang thread:
🔻 Scott Ritter:
Let’s make this as clear as possible:

Iran is a signatory to the NPT.

It has been since 1970.

Iran is not allowed to have nuclear weapons.

Iran has said it is not seeking nuclear weapons.

Iran’s Supreme Leader has issued a religious edict prohibiting Iran from having nuclear weapons.

So everyone should be in agreement:

Iran is committed to adhering to a treaty obligation which prohibits it from having nuclear weapons.

There is no clause that provides an exception to this obligation because Israel has nuclear weapons.

Not even Iran makes that argument.

Last year a succession of Iranian leaders made statements which, when viewed in totality, call into question Iran’s intent when it comes to nuclear weapons.

In February 2024 Ali Akbar Salehi, a former leader of Tehran’s nuclear program, said that Iran possesses all the necessary components for a nuclear weapon.

In April 2024 Ahmad Haghtalab, an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) commander who serves as the head of security for Iran’s nuclear sites declared “It is possible and conceivable to revise the Islamic Republic of Iran’s nuclear doctrine and policies to deviate from previously declared considerations.”

And in October 2024 nearly 40 members of parliament sent a letter to Iran’s Supreme National Security Council, its top security policymaking body, requesting that the council revise the defense doctrine of the Islamic Republic of Iran to permit development of nuclear weapons.

Statements such as these have prompted President Trump to make the denuclearization of Iran a top priority.

Trump recently sent a letter to Iran’s Supreme leader in which a stark choice was offered: negotiate or go to war.

Iran has indicated any attack against its nuclear facilities would likely cause them to change their nuclear doctrine.

It is believed Iran could rapidly move to build a believable nuclear weapon within a few weeks once the decision was made.

It is believed Iran’s critical nuclear infrastructure is buried deep underground.

So deep no conventional munitions could destroy them.

If Trump were to attack Iran’s nuclear infrastructure with conventional munitions that failed to achieve their objective of destruction, an Iranian nuclear weapon would be all but assured.

This is why Trump ordered the US nuclear posture and employment plans to be altered so that low-yield nuclear weapons possessing the ability to destroy underground facilities such as those housing Iran’s nuclear program would be developed and deployed.

Today the US has two nuclear weapons specifically fielded for this purpose: the B61-12 gravity bomb and the W-76-2 low yield nuclear warhead for use on the Trident submarine launched missile.

Both weapons are operational and deployed where they could readily be used against Iran.

If Trump were to attack Iran’s nuclear infrastructure with the goal of guaranteeing its destruction, he would have to use nuclear weapons preemptively.

This fits in with both the nuclear posture and implementation plan Trump signed off on which Iran specifically in mind.

There are those who say that by making this assessment, I am advocating for a nuclear strike on Iran by the US.

This simply isn’t true.

I’m providing an assessment, not soliciting in favor of war.

A war with Iran would be a disaster.

A nuclear attack on Iran by the US would be catastrophic.

I am firmly against both.

But that won’t stop me from providing the most accurate analysis of what I believe is actually happening today regarding Iran, whether I support such policies or not. |THREAD|
🔻 Sony Thang:
Scott, let me make something clear for you.

Because you mistake legalism for justice, and treaties for truth.

If Israel, a rogue apartheid state that’s never signed the NPT, sits on a pile of undeclared nuclear warheads with full U.S. backing, then Iran not only can seek nuclear weapons.

It should.

You speak of the NPT as if it’s sacred scripture.

But what good is a treaty that binds the weak and exempts the strong?

What good is “nonproliferation” when it’s enforced at gunpoint by the only nation that’s used nuclear weapons—twice?

America didn’t sign the NPT to keep peace.

It signed it to preserve monopoly.

It didn’t give Israel nukes for stability.

It did it to maintain strategic supremacy.

So don’t come here quoting edicts, agreements, or moral high ground.

There is none.

Not when the U.S. invades Iraq on lies.

Not when Israel flattens Gaza with impunity.

Not when Washington threatens nuclear annihilation while pretending to “defend the rules-based order.”

What you’re really saying is simple:

Iran must obey.

Israel may do as it pleases.

That’s not law.

That’s empire.

And history teaches us one thing about empire:

It doesn’t negotiate out of generosity.

It negotiates when it’s forced to.

You say Iran could build a bomb in weeks.

Good.

Because what deters a nuclear strike isn’t a treaty.

It’s retaliation.

You say Trump may strike first with low-yield nukes?

Then Iran has every right to prepare to strike back.

With whatever it must.

You call that destabilizing?

No.

What’s destabilizing is a world where one side gets to bomb, sanction, and blackmail, while the other is told to die politely.

You say you’re not advocating war?

But your entire logic is war’s prelude.

It’s the same cold calculus that justified Hiroshima.

The same doctrine that made genocide “strategic.”

I come from Vietnam, Scott.

We know what empire looks like up close.

We know the smell of napalm and the taste of defiance.

And we know this:

You do not get to kill millions, then lecture the survivors on restraint.

So if the U.S. and Israel insist on threatening Iran with nuclear fire?

Then Iran has every right to meet fire with fire.

That’s not escalation.

That’s balance.

That’s how power speaks when justice is denied.

And that’s the only language empire ever truly respects.

It is an American act. Like needing to strut, and needing to boast of irrelevant western GDP when only US remains in top five of PPP, or having the grand empty soirees of the G7, etc etc. To convince their impoverished lemmings that they still have heft in the world, and can dictate to the commies and other permanent enemies. A way to falsely inflate importance.

Putin was clever. He obliquely and publicly removed that implied point of superiority, as even worth discussing in “negotiations”. It also reassured the patriotic majority the Russian authorities weren’t selling them out and returning to the bad days of the 1990s.

He was addressing also a darker agenda by Trump et al of bringing this up  – to divide Russian elite through these very fears, and undermine current authorities’ position & prestige by playing upon the divide between “Atlantic Integrationists vs Eurasian Sovereignists” to use the Saker terms. The eternal divide et impera. But that boat sailed …

Lavrov had also emphasized in the Riyadh meeting that sanctions were not even discussed. Russians make a point of not bringing it up. This adds to western humiliation, of understanding not only does the world NOT revolve around them, but that others can thrive outside their system.

The terminal narcissism makes it impossible for those reared and practiced in Exceptionalism to understand they must deal with Russia and China today as equals.. it will take at least a biblical generation’s time (40 years) for the new dispensation to become normalized. A long time indeed, given the weapons we need to survive in the meanwhile!