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Mr P
ParticipantKind of a ramble….
We are in close agreement, generally, and about AI, very close agreement, I think. Next time Norbert Wiener stops at the Dew Drop Inn we shall have to discuss the natural consequences of cybernetic creations. Imagining the intelligence of, say, a simple machine like a lever in concert with “Gork”…there the machine pushes Mr Gork to bias toward improvements in his intelligence. He may begin to discover trigonometry, in the fullness of Time… But at the other end of the spectrum? Universal stupidity? Ah suspicion that the cybernetic process might be represented as bell-shaped – with an ideal bracketed by idiots at each end. At the ends, Mr Gork cannot even count his own toes. In the center region? Quantum physics and mysteries of cryptographic mathematics, and radio and the applied crafts and science. Gee whiz, it’d be jus’ great if Brother Ted Kaczynski could engage with Brother Norbert…eh? Hey! There’s Steve Allen… If permitted to kibitz at the bar, I’d propose that the matter might be related to the causations underlying https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerkes%E2%80%93Dodson_law
I never did like the time and motion fellas…the Charley Taylor types. Recalling the guy I knew who worked on the line putting seats in Kaiser cars … They gave him 48 seconds to put in 12 bolts, he said… so he put in four, and threw the rest under the carpet. So much for the time and motion finks…
To survive, genuine civilizations are going to have to bring the AI (and the steam engine) to heel. Ted had some coruscations.
We’ve been blessed by a bounty of blueberries, and it’s great fun to watch the jays eye their berry, fly to pick it, and flutter back to peck out the juicybestbit, all the while keeping a weather eye on the cat…and us. Always leave gleaning for the poor, and the critters. I have myself heard Kansas farmers so speak. Charity as Law. Where it belongs.
We have a few wonderful roads not far from Anoxia…and I chanced to blunder into a gaggle of fellas riding their old time Bonneville TT160 bikes, they were headed over the hills to the sea on bikes built in the early 1960’s. Very nice fellas, and very pretty bikes…simple, elegant, frugal, and fast enough for any fool. Generally these are 50 horsepower bikes. Light, and nimble. Geewhiz… https://www.facebook.com/reel/912229326520960 (a practical example illustrating the importance of situational awareness) I think there’s still a bit of snow at the pass… long ride. no gas. no beer. Incentives can be important!
‘C’use ma humor… it was a pleasure to see the old bikes.
Best! P
Mr P
ParticipantIndeed Mr MKB writes a fine evaluation. Term snatched from crosstalk> coup du théâtre I like his last line> “It is a huge signal in advance to the “collective West” that nothing will be forgotten. ” Right. Nothing at all.
In method-acting, of course, the actor becomes the character, and with amateurs it’s best that they do not know their role, but act naturally… Oswald being an example. Of course the same is true for genuine criminals too – they don’t need to know they’re the hare and not the hound.
Seen as theater, I await the silent secret solos and the chorus . As MKB puts it> “…Prigozhin sing — sooner rather later — and the song will be transmitted live to the Kremlin. And that accounts for the great nervousness in Washington, which has raised the spectre of…” As off-stage we hear several volleys of rifle fire as the quisling cadres face fate sit in police interrogation cubicles…swirl fog…spectral ghosts hover and flit overhead…
It’d make a good play. It does too. Actually Gore Vidal would make it a novel with a TV series…
Speaking of crime> https://archive.ph/j6om4 “Women War Criminals: A Vital Cog in NATO’s Plans of World Conquest” This raises questions beyond the scope of the article. Perhaps I share with McGovern an abhorrence of cruel female persons, taking the implications of things he said about “bloody Gina”.
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Mr P
ParticipantBrother, you’ll recall Odysseus’ a-tappin’ his old bow, the bow that no suitor could string, or draw…and what did follow…eh? Telemachus and Athena and the slaughter, and even the sulfur to cleanse…and the sluts as well, like doves… Oh! How Heaven telegraphs, the obvious is there to see as fruit in the vendor’s cart … and the delusional forge ahead destined to their fate. https://youtu.be/P41gT4eicrE ( “Lebowski Mark it zero!” I never trusted the 1911…but it is a weapon with a terrible history…something to do with the Philippine Patriots and the US Marines…) It’s a League game…
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Mr P
ParticipantArticle I thought innarrestin’ “Artificially Stimulated Stupidity” https://www.aier.org/article/artificially-stimulated-stupidity/
Indeed, I think I’ve said here that the AI machines deconstruct perception to the loci of the proverbial campfire tales over beer, when nobody lies. Said, more or less. The delusional space expands… searchterm> “substack + artificially stimulated stupidity” Oh my goodness!
Sudhi’s Questions! Oh Yes Dear! Fine questions. Well conceived, with implications.
la guerre continue…
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Mr P
ParticipantYes…and I too am not sure. We’re peering into the wispy fogs. When dog is alone with wolves, dog becomes wolf, who can know? Under stress too, delusions, meds?, Mephisto’s blandishments, playing both sides…what happens next may clear the vision…such as wither goeth the intrepid Chef… Noting that codename “dentist” started nightwolve club that liquidated the western “outlaw” clubs, dentist was followed by “surgeon”, and so on…thus all the outlaws are brought to discipline…noting codename Chef. Yeah, it’s not much… But it would be very clever, and in the nature of KGB trained officer-spies, eh? Of course Chef is not Stierlitz , but… and free will may not be a factor for Chef. Wondering too, yes VVP does seem genuinely angry… but we don’t know why… Was this because of the shooting and deaths, because these were not in the plan? Or for the implied reasons, or for some set of things.
Totally non-sequitur> https://archive.ph/hs3VH The AVA, an article about Brother Ted.
“The Torment of Ted Kaczynski ‘62” AVA is a good paper, but very local. Stories have charm, sometimes. I feel a sympathy for Ted… I was luckier than he.
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Mr P
ParticipantI appreciate the good sense of “An elder cautioned patience: these were men built for War, they would preserve their mutual honor and carry the battle against even the fiercest enemy. And a Sword is not a flower nor a gentle farmer…” I have known men that were simply formed to be warriors, physically and by character. Many die young, as if formed to be disposable – often they’re rash and impulsive…which is dangerous.
Larry J has theory, and it may be more or less true. “Did Prigozhin scam his western handlers out of millions of dollars? Yevgeny does have a criminal past and is known for sticky fingers. Did he draw on his criminal past and fleece the British or the Americans? Could be a terrific story.” https://sonar21.com/russias-academy-award-winning-performance-for-best-coup-prigozhin-scores-best-actor/
If true, then acting abilities of VVP have improved more than I had estimated.
A gentleman barrister that I read has another opinion. https://adeyinkamakinde.blogspot.com/2023/06/explaining-madness-of-prigozhins-mutiny.html
At the moment, anyway, Brother Johnson’s theory seems “best”…
If “Mr Stickyfingers” burned the western spies, well! Some say that Fidel burned the Dulles fellas… (I think he did, not that he did it for personal gain) Anyway, if the entire rodeo was an operation and a cover for movements, and if Prigozhin did scam them out of the swag, if so, there will be great stories ’round the fire at some dacha…
I think I fell for the con.
Best! P
Mr P
ParticipantI am sorry …of course not. Nothing is forgiven, nothing at all.
Oh! I was too subtle. The full recipe is “All is forgiven, nothing is forbidden, everything is permitted…now make a chitlist and call for hangman” The phrase is a cynical shorthand code for how a ruler discovers disloyalty. When it was introduced to me by cryptonazifella, who was a dedicated and good instructor, the examples given were, naturally, all about the terrible commies… he was, after all, a nazi. Scorpion principle in play. In corporate games I have enjoyed watching the “energy flow” from a dropped rumor, boredom and my shameful rascalist atavism. Of course I was secretly trying to find out how much I could bother the fascistkreeps before they fired me…a hobby long ago. Call that anthropological survey expeditionary mission to XYZ and Luckup…
Speaking of nazis> https://archive.is/cU1oa Barky’s bigbigplan to steal Crimea… just to recall the good ol’ daze.
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Mr P
ParticipantIn youth the technique now to hand was taught to me by a genuine German crypto nazi under rubrik “Let a thousand flower bloom together” as the method of discovering potential trouble-makers….the old liberation “all is forgiven” gag…
Let fishy run on line…attract big fishy…
VVP is angry though, betrayed, and angry with himself. He’s not much of an actor, though he’s has got better since the submarine fubar.
Calling Mister Sheeran, Mister Frank Sheeran…
Mr P
Participantroger. no sweat. fyi archive > https://archive.ph/m0gkm
I am, obviously illiterate – now back in morse and vacuum tubes I knew enough to make smoke…sometimes. Speaking of that, I have an antenna project…
I’m recalling Ricky Ricardo…Lucy Lucy Lucy! Yougotalottasplainin’todo… Like Burroughs said, the mark inside. Poor schmuck, now it’s a mater of statecraft and procedure…
The debriefing ought to be very interestink https://youtu.be/5g80ribCPj0
Pete! Whaddafella!
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Mr P
ParticipantThis is the quote posted at locals>
It was/is possible to access duran/locals by registration, and it is not required to give money, is free, in a way limited, but entirely fine, imho.
Evil Russian Imperialist@Russ_Imperialist 3 hours ago
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Something interesting, a detail to the portrait of Prigozhin, so to speak
Vyacheslav Tarasov, the ex-head of the analytical service of Prigozhin condemned the actions of the head of the PMC “Wagner”
From 2020 to 2022, I worked as the head of the analytical service of Evgeny Viktorovich Prigozhin in St. Petersburg. My internal closed communication number is 983. Today I am the first deputy of the Donbass Development Corporation. Every day for the past 8 months I have been working in the frontline city of Donetsk, although I do not hold a weapon in my hands. Today is the day when for the first time it is necessary, vital for me to speak publicly about my work with Evgeny Viktorovich. I am not a professional journalist, so I wrote a text for myself and now I will read it out. Evgeny Viktorovich, in two years of close communication with you, I have
learned both your principles of life and your inner ideology. This is not what you tell numerous journalists in interviews and even personal conversations with this fake-flattering voice, this is not the pathos that you pour through your TG channels and recorded audio. This is the truth that only people who have worked under you know. You have one ideology – fear. Fear and deception. Your only sincere desire is power, undivided and absolute. Each of us who have worked for you knows that for any fault, for any objection expressed at the wrong time, you can go to the “teacher”. This is the executioner who beats people in the basement and sends you a photo, and you decide if to add or is it enough. It is impossible to resign from you – this is serfdom, where only you decide by your decision whether a person can leave you and on what conditions. Fear and only fear. Is this the kind of patriotism you bring to us on your bayonets? Your ideal is war communism. We have discussed this with you many times, and what excites you most about is the executions. Of course, for the good of the Motherland. But it’s only up to you to decide who will be shot personally. There is no law, only your opinion and decision. Helicopter crews won’t let you lie. You have already started doing this. Evgeny Viktorovich, there is no truth behind you. The purpose of my video is one – to show your true essence to people, PMCs fighters, warriors. To everyone who watches it. You are trying to flood Russia with blood in your pride. I am saying all this without hiding and I am ready to discuss all this publicly in order to show, only to show one thing: Evgeny Viktorovich, there is no truth behind you.https://t.me/readovkanews/61445
more> https://t.me/geonrgru/12779
more> https://t.me/yurasumy/9510
more>https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/70704
Minding Miss Emily…people say all sorts of stuff….cum gramun salum amigos.
Best! P
Mr P
ParticipantI suspect the software caught my last. P
Mr P
ParticipantAbout locals access…I shall attempt. Inadequate facility with the machines.
Meantime, speaking of propaganda…
“Tell all the truth but tell it slant —
Success in Circuit lies
Too bright for our infirm Delight
The Truth’s superb surprise
As Lightning to the Children eased
With explanation kind
The Truth must dazzle gradually
Or every man be blind — ”
Sister Emily D, of course. A favorite of Mother’s, and of Mrs P, and also, I imagine, a good note that even Master SunTsu would nod agreement toward. The Emperor and the People must be as One…and how is this done with love…illumination with truth.
Mr P
ParticipantRespecting the opinion some persons seem to hold of the character of Prigozhin.
https://theduran.locals.com/member/Russ_Imperialist
(hints, it’s a low opinion, and mentions what seem to be very serious crimes, even personally by the would-be Quisling…
Mr P
ParticipantInteresting BBC transmits in US a radio-drama with “Japanese” accented English all about Fukushima spew. Just reminding everybody what the canon is today, Winston down at Truth must be busy.
Sudhi! Wonderful!> “Prigozhin’ is a drama queen…” Burroughs would have recognized the hustler inside.
@ chronicles I quoted a guy who looked just like uncle Adolf and his pal, who was the image of uncle Joe, pipe an’ all. The little guy kept arguing with the big fella, saying> Wenn Verrat blüht, kann der Staat die Giftknospen liquidieren. Last ah seen ’em they staggered out into to th’ fog and their old jeep…
Remembering gleichschaltung is a process. And visualizing the last scenes of White Tiger… fascism lurks in occult spaces, ever ready to spring out, or “bloom”, like a poison flower.
Looks like a bigbigday, Friends. Pregnant with Changes and Opportunities, and Choice.
Best! P
Mr P
ParticipantThanks for the Rome link> The Italian bit was interesting, and about as I expected. The distribution of sickle cell, as I recall., and the Histories, and common sense.
The Handelsblatt cover is priceless> searchterm> ” handelsblatt cover dies ist kein gegenangriff” est ist ein blutiger crashtest (geewhiz the yankifacation of German since the war…terrible…falling of standards)
Turner has it as well.
Take care Brother. Best! P
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