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  • in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/08/2023 … Open Thread #17573
    Mr P
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    Mao’s son was a feature in bigbigfilm Yalu. They say that so long as people speak of you, you’re not dead. The kid lives. This is, of course, deeply classical mythic-making symbolism. Thanks for music.

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    The propaganda this day from “BBC in America”alarmed me a bit.

    live feed that Anoxia gets> https://www.ijpr.org/  (see “all streams”, see BBC )

    (see the site )>https://www.americanpublicmedia.org/ that flogs all sorts of funny stuff)

    An historian analyzing the rhetoric and “factual matter” that this agency of occult or grey province insinuates into the aethers creates a vast illusion. In W2 the Brits had a (then) vast enterprise doing the same thing, but that was then ,right? Ahem. The W2 job was aimed at the top German leadership, much by turned spies, some by maskirovka, some by radio. This time the target is also the enemy, the westpeoples, deplorables, mostly. Nobody else is stupid enough to buy into the rot.

    The alarm? Well “Ruski is facing defeat and it is feared…”   …and so forth…more strident that any I have previously heard.

    Lies always tell, after a while. Thinking Brit is rabid, more rabid than yanklandjunta. Maybe Brit send sapper with gadget blame evil Ruski… Senile cat get big ‘sprize?

    The BBC US paints a vast picture of inconsistencies and lies totally a tapestry the raveling and constant plaster over in/of which will surely bring very sudden change, – one way or another.

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    Raisins usually take 24 hours in home kitchen dehydrator. This is >14 hours dry > fresh ripe Thompson . Cauldron water that’s 0.2% NaOH @ >85C. 30 seconds. quench tap water STP, submerge then in cauldron @ STP water with 0.2% citric acid. In preparing the solutions, NaOH is  dissolved in 500 cc distilled water. Same citric. Don’t mix ’em, duh! Use different saucepans. NaOH even in .2% will irritate skin, wear safety glasses. The taste is actually improved. Vacuum seal. Glass jars. Ambrosiated food.

     

    Best! P

     

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/08/2023 … Open Thread #17540
    Mr P
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    Mrs P remarked in discussion of the transmission of estrangement that if (by magic) there were in times of rapid change, no memory from one moment to the next then a master might be free to do as he wished, but soon be unseated due to irrational and self destructive actions. If no memory, nothing can be done…ultimately no steel, no chow, no army…headless chicken syndrome…self cures quickly, always. Recalling that Orwell’s Winston had a particular job…

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    The Sergei Naryshkin speech (ref above) called down Heaven –  and Revelations had a tiny cameo when he spoke of “beast” in the same context of Man is made in God’s image... Born oct ’54 they say. In Soviet time they had, you’ll recall, this idea of creating the “Soviet Man”. Canonically this effort to create a Soviet Man failed. I disagree. They made some, and I think the effort paid out very very well! Very well indeed. Oh, our “Comrade” Mr Hal said he agreed with every word. He probably does, but he’s still the same guy.

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    It may be that the gentle men and woman of the junta… well!   … try to imagine yourself in their place. What then might we experience? (be Hitler in bunker for a moment, Red cannons rumbling nearby)

    Manifestly these persons are driven by the “fatal flaw” of cacoethes. At this time they are literally a dynamic (and dramatic!) “engine” Most people know to stop when everything they do gives undesired results. These cannot know, and cannot stop. A classic tragedy.

    It gets better too… ref 4 type> https://www.profolus.com/topics/four-types-of-alienation-according-to-karl-marx/   In the place of the junta, would one not suffer from all four? And better yet> (speaking of tragic drama!) In their place, before “our” eyes, every action results in products vastly and increasingly different from “our” expectations and beliefs… (Calling Comrade Brecht…) thus in junta HQ land a blinding and overwhelming verfremdungseffekt… Their delusions are proximally, I suspect, a dynamic product of their own actions… this seems to be in the way of a classical catastrophe. Excessive positive feedback with massive distortion, and they respond by increasing gain…pretty soon amplifier no work.

    Returning our “selves” to the physical realm, ahem…Considering that the people in the matter are in reality functionaries, well, one soon becomes quite lost in wild speculation – there’s inertia, latency, but this blinding “world made strange” is obviously expanding throughout the ruling “elite” factions of westieland.

    Their own compulsive actions create ever more earnest effort and ever more destructive disengagement with “species essence” or just plain decent  humanity.

    Speaking of Comrade Brecht> https://youtu.be/Q6QlgwXiRZk (trial scene – and the future, the child, goes to… and who decides?….do the nazis deep down fear that’s about to happen?…after all play written ’44… 😉

    King of Hearts 1966 > https://youtu.be/4dXHhCos6_c

    What a way to lose. Eh?

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/08/2023 … Open Thread #17523
    Mr P
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    Hal, obligingly, recounted last night how the political police for whom he worked asked him to applaud the murder of a judge on his (then?) website…in order to identify, to call out, the defective criminals and in order to achieve some [political] objective of his employers, such as entrapment, and we assume, finding more informers…looks nice on the cop weekly activity report, eh?  He said this before he went on to say “newsie” stuff. I thought this most honest, in the funny ways of things. Understand, for me it’s a cynical amusement, nothing he says is anything but salted, even when there’s meat. What interests me is the audience and the implied agendas. I listen to WW2 broadcasts, and real time radio chatter and ham radio chatter for similar reasons. Listening, not suspending disbelief, with the skeptical editorial eye/ear… speaking of… Bear in mind that I live in the world, but not much “of the world”… it’s all history for me. It’s not “political”, not in the least. Old Candide?

    I agree that Lira did outline a transmission principle, as he defined it. What I have in mind….not same, maybe similar. general principle, not specific case (See PNP NPN transistors) Carrier, as a passive “hole”…   Estrangement/time being in the nature of a machine, a telegraph, that can materialize effects in the future.  (prayer for the gonzo)

    It’s a developing idea. Example: Granny grew up in (mostly) honest earned wealth before the empire, Grand Tour honeymoon in pre-w1 Europe and northern Africa. This lady passed to me the pre-imperial memories. (her observations did not accord with the canon of my school days) Now then, some 120-140 years later, in the fuzzy sense of time’s memories, hers exist juxtaposed to now in her grandson. Since 1900, or so, and in fits, ebbs, starts, and episodes of increasing frequency, terrible fast Change. Much by violence. The result is that a carrier transmitted shared (or even individual) memories in proportion to median age and rate of change etc (there’s an equation I bet)…transmitted quietly with no evident effect, really no physical existence, no deliberate purpose, transported estrangement through time.

    So? That’s another line, but it seems reasonable to expect that some people might be motivated by the “delta” ‘tween memory and now. They might act, possibly in lard way, probably in small ways… If so, then the carrier would be said to have released its cargo. I note than in times of slow change, this manifestation is a stabilizing feature in human groups, while in times of rapid change it births conflict and sometimes violence.

    I want to re-read Uncle Karl on his definitions…maybe this is old stuff. The canon says there are four kinds. It seems that there is, as well, a “meta estrangement” or a 5th kind. It’s unclear to me if this is #5 or a meta. Old fella grey cells slow, and whimsical too..but Karl’s estrangements are all immediate… so I’m tending to the view that there is a “magical” meta-estrangement principle that is running so hot just now that the wires are burning, so to say. I think in Global South Peoples this “E-telegraph” is white hot, no pun implied!

    Note that transmission of estrangement by film, fake memories, undermines the natural “tribal” transmission. Is case for “censorship” a variable and proportional discretion guided by custom and informed logic… perhaps as my Friend AHH applies to “Naked Lunch” and so on. But the argument is bidirectional, even though non symmetrical.

    Withal, I’ll make a few jottings…we’ll see if it’s interesting.

    This is impressive cat> https://youtu.be/3Y9ZjFYg4S8 ( Sergei Naryshkin )

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/08/2023 … Open Thread #17513
    Mr P
    Participant

    If the crazies... They say Rus is leaving the WHO… and WTO, disengagement. Leaving Die Anstalt, perhaps in anticipation of crazyplan.

    Bits and bobs and unspeakable dovetails to the Israeli operations. https://www.donbass-insider.com/2023/08/16/organ-trafficking-paedophile-networks-the-hell-of-children-abducted-by-ukraine/

    Recalling Uncle Karl, and entfremdung… some ideas came… encapsulated? Concept> alienation due to rapid change acts as a carrier of potential conflict from one generation to the next. I’ll see about an essay…

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/08/2023 … Open Thread #17503
    Mr P
    Participant

    An apprehension, some “tells” speak a bit, whisper anyway…

    Objectively the nazijuntawest is in dire peril, at least let us assume this…and realistically this set might be seen as having mousetrapped itself in various ways…and realistically they’re getting emotional and fearful of losing power…and the prospects? Ah! Dollar kaputski pretty soon…

    404 kaputski pretty soon too. BRICS and the fellas, you know, they’re on a roll…

    Managing to rule after yet another “odd” election…with funny money? (odd election claim) > https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/report-nationwide-cellular-network-connects-election-equipment-gives/

    Terrified of the Trumpster. Terrified even more of Kennedy and the Tucker! Some might even think the junta is afraid to do Dallas, so far anyway…well, not always…but you know…optics.

    Arson> Canada and Island and, well, anywhere it’s hot… have several effects, the misc en scene being the overture  of some, drum roll please ! bigbig operation “The Set Up” is a foundational principle in confidence rackets…which it most obviously is… The “Climate Con 23” Operation would, if it exists, lead up to a logical apex of “control by the science”, eh?

    So? So otherwise I’d not have paid much attention to https://twitter.com/i/status/1689270723255177216

    UN Insider Reveals Biden Will Declare ‘Climate Emergency’ and Ration Meat, Gas and Electricity

    Strong whiff of rat… regrettable postponed election, lock-down, all temporary, not to worry… you there!

    (not to say climate does not change, it’s become the ringer in the con)

    So somebody said down at the Dew Drop Inn last night…

    Best! P

     

     

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/08/2023 … Open Thread #17470
    Mr P
    Participant

    amarynth, dear… the Hebrew ” Timshel “, “thou mayest [triumph over evil]” Goodness also cannot give up, and in order to be “goodness” cannot use unjust methods. This is irritating, I grant (!)

    They tell me that the story, first of Jacob, and then in the New Testament of Jesus at that well, is allegorical/political history of one nation accepting another as superior…at the well. Seen that-a-way Luna 25 ties Soviet to Now Russia to the “digging of a well” (it’s about water and other nifty stuff) to the commanding height…what remain is the realization of the “samaritan” fellas an’ gals and whatevers that the ground has shifted. I imagine Luna 25 mission to be greatly symbolic in this historic period. Of course that’s assuming that they find treasure! (I have no doubts). China also is “digging lunar wells”, as everyone knows. Ultimately that reality sinks into even diseased minds. Sun Tsu advice comes to mind… (cunning commies! It’s not fair! )

    ahh, I expect Micheal Paranti would agree about Nero. So, fwiw, do I. Such people see the poor as lice. If they are lice-like, then why is that? This line of inquiry is closed to the august minds of the powerful…I mentioned the logical train from abolition to rente economics…ahem. We do seem to witness the natural results of inadequate resistance to the rackets, not much different from Frank Sheeran’s old pals and comrades  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sheeran   and of course what’s a real-estate-arson job on Maui, mere slum clearance, after the job in New York, eh?

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    The Fukushima affair.. I think there is parallel to Michael Hudson’s dictum about debts, those that can’t be paid…don’t get paid…and a vast tank farm of hot stuff and aged nicely simmered bouillabaisse that can’t be kept and can’t be cleaned is going to get…

    Quiz Friday. No wonder Comrade Xi is hopping mad.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 15/08/2023 … Open Thread #17457
    Mr P
    Participant

    There’s a Bavarian cuckoo clock at digs… tik tik tik type with 30 minute birdies… 1960 . It works, somewhat randomly, spooky action? Probably gummygearsyndrome. 😉

    Luna 25 … see image At >  https://t.me/intelslava/50557?single

    I am recalling Jacob dug a well…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_25

    LUNA 25

    Is Soviet bird with RF Characteristics! Lenin’s laughing. Stalin puffing away nodding…

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    Maui> A marvelous coincidence! https://mauinow.com/2021/12/15/new-maui-police-chief-takes-helm/    So sad how misfortune seems to dog this fine officer.

    excerpt>

    John Pelletier gets sworn in today alongside Deputy Chief Charles Hank III.

    Pelletier already laid out budget priority requests, which include the establishment of a dedicated civilian recruiter; creation of a part time cold case team; and creation of a patrol K-9 program.

    Pelletier has served the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department for the past 22 years in numerous capacities. He oversaw the K-9 and SWAT units and served as commander of the Convention Center Area Command, which is responsible for the Las Vegas “strip.” – – – …ncident commander for the One October mass casualty event in Las Vegas. His Deputy Chief selection, Hank, was also part of the command for the incident and provided after-action presentations across the country on preventing, responding to, and mitigating similar active shooter events.”

    A  dynamic duo and charming couple… sterling fellows, who could possibly doubt their dedication to selfless service? I not that the establishment of a network of doggie sniffers of crime, and somewhat simian “civilian” agents, and a “part time” cold case department of snooping into dirt on everybody via, w assume, “forensics”… How very regrettable the coincidental (obvious) crime wave of mysterious arson. Pity…

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    Soviet bird look for water and suitable loci on Luna… like Checkoff’s gun… And Jacob.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17434
    Mr P
    Participant

    Not only Pak… A fella from a company coal town in Appalachia told me about how his father would do a contract murder in Chicago most every Christmas.  Otherwise no Christmas. I assume the rate-sheet price is pretty low in US cities. Standards have fallen, it seems.

    I wonder about the rising violence in terms of big scale…is this a metaphysical pyre burning away at the old ways, a sort of ketosis? It is also terrible…but I wonder if it burns out, and more, I wonder what comes after that.

    btw @ Chronicle I wrote about a startlement from McGovern… “Ruski hitting tunnels Carpathian Mountain thru-transit-supply route. Ivan is serious. The nazihq is delirious…”  good 20 minutes.  The startling remark near the end…

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17424
    Mr P
    Participant

    Rather the odd ramble, my friends…

    Indeed ! conflict between blacks and Boers to detonate a key target, once Africa’s top eco… Such a divide to rule has, some say, been running for many decades (centuries anyway)  in the nazibasewest, so it’s a natural for the finks. Mr Malema, whatever his true nature, is an actor in some sense, and he also needs money…since he has no evident trade. They say that expert arsonists never have to burn anything down, they get paid to not do, or course that racket takes an organization with clout…and money. I do not imagine Mr M is an expert arsonist…. 😉  He may work for one though…odd jobs an’ all.

    Tribal. Among casual chatter American Jews often say “MOT” member of the tribe, just btw. Mrs P and I have discussed, so far as we might, the tribal traces and paths and how they’ve been both influenced and influential…and of course the origins and diasporas of our shared history include several other species of chimpanzee (I have read that boffins see indications of 22 species, so far, we are not homogeneous, profiles vary, they say.), as the boffins have teased out the DNA to some extent. We decided as tentative opinion that children look like their parents. They tend to act like their parents, and react like their parents, live about as long too, Boys go walkabout and sailing. Girls can be randy. Tribes mix and change, and the ladies choose more than men know – there’s a sort of guided randomness that brought us to now an’ what people call by the much abused word “race”. Turbulence in Time as River flows and floods, sometimes, so to say.  (the term “race” is imho, so politically abused as to nearly useless, unless we speak of bearing race or millrace and so forth)

    We have been considering the implications of the long-ago Quaker community argument and decision in re slavery. There was “white” – “white” legal slavery as well as w-indigenous legal slavery and of course the white – African sort, and also the trade in women of any “race”. I ought to do some deep research on this… But what’s topical to our discussion is the implication respecting rents. These seem to be liable to be divided into classes of moral grades, but also seem to be forms of slavery. It’s a line of inquiry here at the digs. Withal, we dislike rente “machines”.

    Fixin’ Yeah. Mr Fixit. As the American farmer boys gave way to the allure of factory jobs and left the farms, these skills were ordinary. In depression nobody didn’t know a Mr Fixit, and many were him. These qualities are mostly lost now. Adults that can’t fix anything and who know very little beyond formula and rote of their employment are essentially helpless. We see that as evidence of crime, and decadence, vice. Low character. Dishonest leaders. And the natural decay of empire. Story> Pacific war. Some recently “liberated” island, (Midway?) and Captain R makes his way to the O Club. They have spirits of course. But ice as well! And ice cream. Captain (who is also a lawyer) makes inquiries… The source was a home-brew SO2 gas generator for the fluid, and highly modified air compressor, small engine, belts .. etc…y’all know the cycle. The SeaBees – a buncha farm boys, as a gang, knew how to build it and make it work. The equipment diversion and minor violations were smoothed over by the ice cream at the O Club. The fellas had cold beer and a profitable little supply racket, ahem. Captain R told me that story at dinner some 55 years ago..and now everyone knows it, a little. Good. He lived to be 103, iirc. Good fella. Called Fletcher a coward at the O Club in Oz… so? So never made admiral.  I have long suspected that “R” sabotaged his promotion due to the carnage and corruption. He’d sunk a German sub in Atlantic in W1, but that was clean as opposed to the stuff he saw in the Pacific W2. Of course, we do these things spontaneously. Psych stuff mysteries. R was in China between the wars… ref novel Sand Pebbles. (not the film!) Just such a ship. Below W1 “tin can” similar to R commanded.DD US W1 ship

    amarynth > The twelve foot gizmo is wonderful! Thanks! The previous ( “arch ive.ph/” ) no longer happens for us. I read the paper. A remark. If possible find a ‘scoped rifle or a surveyor’s transit…either one (be safe! be legal!) anyway set up the ‘scope cross hair on a “target” a mile away. Or 5 miles away. Even on a surveyor’s tripod the target jinks ’round at any great distance. ( In layout we stop at 100’…Past 100′ it loses accuracy more than is good.

    So? so burn time infinite is very nice, but it is still extremely difficult to hold the beam on target – the jinking at long range means a sort of less than 100% “duty cycle” of BoT (beam on target)

    Dust in air… scattering. Defense.

    Selecting the chemistry of an artificial smoke generator according to the absorption spectra, matching an Nth smoke chemistry to a specific LASER – the beam can be blocked by such smoke. You’d probably be able to do a fair defense with a LASER detector that fired smoke grenades , a kilo of talc, maybe titanium dioxide, check IUPAC whatever the physics is, and an ounce of C4 kinna bangers. I’d want to have the boys down in the shop run some experiments… !

    If Chinese engineers make a weapon, they are sure to also make defense.  I wonder about how the LASER “sees” the target…by radar? Optic? If “no see” then no BoT. And if LASER fires, it gives away position (probably the BFG big fat generator and the LASER give off so much heat that in thermal image they look like a city..) I wonder about means of blinding the “seeing”. Can LASER target acquisition machine stand a very bright flash? How fast can it recover, what persistence?

    Seems like a useful machine to burn down birds in flight, or model airplanes (!) These cannot defended by dust…though even there, ideas do arise.. The dust-o-matic machine…now lemmesee… I’ll need an abacus  😉

    Best! P

     

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17409
    Mr P
    Participant

    Yes, a bit…I read on it. Mind you it’s an incremental tech advance. I read that they have built a gas cooled continuous-run LASER in a frequency suitable for burning stuff and not much collimation problems, which I assume stem from heating internal, hence the cooling gas. Being practical minded, I assume air, but ahdunno..an’ that just what I read….

    Note, all amplifiers have efficiency < 1, so a high power (weapon useful) LASER has heat, I imagine that’s a problem for a long burn.

    I wish a physics cat would check in though… one article and an old guy…

    While they’re interesting weapons… They seem to me pretty limited and suitable only for special work, and development.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17404
    Mr P
    Participant

    There’s plastic, and then there’s plastic…much of what’s called plastic is a plastic cement of filler material –  Ammonium sulfamate among these, and corn starch too, percentages vary, iirc… from wayback and Cincinnati Milacron plastic injection machine maintenance class. Introducing additives sometimes creates stress concentration, nucleus of crack start. Motors make vibration, this discovers incipient crack loci… an o’scope and transducer would reveal all sorts of parasitic vibrations, under strobe even pretty. Fatigue crack formation is a time to failure matter, we are being swindled. Incidentally  many modern engines with aluminum connecting rods are running time to failure rods, design to fail beyond the useful life of engine…this is possible in plastic too, generally. It’s simply how good it good enough to make a swindle work. Airplane, especially pressurized jets, are time-to-failure dynamic stability machine, multidimensional, tricky, and cunning.

    Mrs P shares your criticisms. I posted some bit about copper…cheap-o-stuff is largely, imho, a product of depletion of mines, wells, primarystuff. She has a dough mixer that screams to me, but it has not yet cracked.

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    We’re doing raisins, speaking of good…! Anyway research of drying…learned paper. Now have wet from vine sample weighed and noted down, set variac and hot plate and fan… paper (they have nice budget and equipment!) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257678951_Comparison_of_drying_characteristics_of_Thompson_seedless_grapes_using_combined_microwave_oven_and_hot_air_drying

    Thompson grape wet-on-vine ripe & sweet is stated 78% moisture, as a general figure. Safe storage is 18%. I am trying to duplicate/verify, and discover faster throughput.

    Paper speaks of a dilute caustic dip NaOH followed by dilute acid (citric ?) which is associated with considerable reduction in dry-time to 18%. Perhaps 14 hours per slug rather that 24. Naturally the diurnal cycle ambient is about the same one day to the next, so while I note and record stuff, I doubt it’ll matter, since a slug is started in evening – same day to day. Wish for vacuum dryer oven I did not take for free off craig’s list! Dummy!

    a number of articles related to food> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1658077X10000068    Including the Thompson article.

    I saved the paper.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17399
    Mr P
    Participant

    ! Mrs P and I were only yesterday recalling the musical ! Springtime for Hitler as we were rolling down the quiet village road.

    Thinking of Gonzalo L… Ripper “Mandrake, were you ever tortured?”  and Mandrake replying “well nobody ever does…” (hold up) and etc. The questions some moot about G L are irrelevant until some time sine die, and that makes them mean remarks, imho, and I do not accept these questions as proper. Later, Mr G may write his book. I hope so.

    As said before, “Stumpy” the fictitious bookie @ Anoxia was a real guy. I didn’t know it then but I had a tiny place in “the organization” Mickey Cohen ran – after school job delivering liquor, and envelopes…when they realized I twigged to the racket, they got me a job in a machine shop… good guys, tough business, they did what they had to do, largely a manifestation of class conflict… So? –  so Warren Zevon, son of Stumpy reminds me of Gonzalo…way out of safe zone  https://youtu.be/F2HH7J-Sx80  Send Lawyers guns an’ money dad!… (he does tell the story later in interview elsewhere) I may have met Stumpy once, I hope so anyway.

    For Gonzalo>

    “I went home with a waitress the way I always do
    How was I to know she was with the russians, too?

    I was gambling in havana, I took a little risk
    Send lawyers, guns, and money
    Dad, get me out of this, hiyah!

    An innocent bystander
    Somehow I got stuck between a rock and a hard place
    And I’m down on my luck
    Yes, I’m down on my luck
    Well, I’m down on my luck

    I’m hiding in honduras, I’m a desperate man
    Send lawyers, guns, and money
    The shit has hit the fan

    Send lawyers, guns, and money
    Send lawyers, guns, and money

    Send lawyers, guns, and money, hiyah!
    Send lawyers, guns, and money, ow! ”

    ………..

    MEK Albania> amusing term “crackdown”…mirrors why things break, cracks… One might suppose that to these fellas the Canadian/US border will be…transparent. How jolly. Recalling that man may summon to himself a bad fate, and that consorting with murders and violent men tends to create a machine than destroys the hustler racketeer himself. It is revealed how the Plan to Control North America’s “deplorables” is formed.

    Bummer Dude.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17389
    Mr P
    Participant

    Morn’n  Fine thoughts and posts e’rybody.

    Sudhi’s remark re Karma and the relationship R-P… I heartily agree, and note that imho they form a dynamic couple, a machine… That got me to thinking about perturbation and outliers in Time.Bell curves an’ statistics…

    Even a highly stable and happy political couple R-P can, we assume, be ruined by outside coming inside… internet and the tendency to abandon discipline and duty and family and kin in favor of a hedonistic path of greedy and ultimately futile, sterile, self-gratification, etc, including all the ordinary vices and some very occult crazychit….these being part of an example of a secondary after-effect – a DARPA project to maintain comm in nuclear war. Secondary effects are cunning, perhaps the metaphysical equivalent of malign intent some machines harbor along with their basic death wish. An invisible metamachine lurking and unsee able which may materialize at any moment. Of course there is also direct intrusion…rockets, bullets, rocks. And coincidence. Of coincidence, or spooky action (“hand of God”, “HoG” “) more below.

    But speaking of rocks (!) New stuff has come to light, it seems. The Roman concrete recipe may have been teased out of Hadrian’s Wall. It’s interesting to realize that the chemistry produces a “metal” (not in the ordinary sense, but in the old time sense), more or less an alloy, structure, sorta. And like adding tin to copper, when it cools those tin atoms change everything about the properties, and pinch of arsenic has amazing effects as well…but the alkali metals in the Roman concrete seem to create similar physical structure, in scanning electron microscope lens…similar, perhaps analogous, to an alloyed copper, etc.

    “A reproduction of Imperial-age mortar based on Trajan’s Markets (110 CE) wall concrete resists microcracking through cohesion of calcium–aluminum–silicate–hydrate cementing binder and in situ crystallization of platey strätlingite, a durable calcium-aluminosilicate mineral that reinforces interfacial zones and the cementitious matrix. In the 1,900-y-old mortar dense intergrowths of the platey crystals obstruct crack propagation and preserve cohesion at the micron scale. Trajanic concrete provides a proven prototype for environmentally friendly conglomeratic concretes that contain ∼88 vol % volcanic rock yet maintain their chemical resilience and structural integrity in seismically active environments at the millenial scale.”

    You’ll recall I mentioned a couple of books on how stuff breaks and why things fall down…generally…cracks. The old stuff is old because it resists cracking, mostly.

    https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.1417456111

    The US, Corps of Engineers I think, did an experimental spillway not too many years ago in a close approximation of the Roman big rock and compacted and layers and volcanic stuff – so I recall reading about. The use of machinery rather than slaves changed the product, obviously, and nobody on the job had ever done that job, so…experiment.  Roman engineers would have probably done a better job.

    Coincidence, HoG, spooky action…….perturbation of otherwise inherent dynamic  stability.  of R-P couple

    see> https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2022SW003379  and the general lay of the scientific aspect…We live in a system, an active system, that is more or less sure to make inoperative, to some extent destroy, most electrical machines on the planet. It’s simply a matter of luck-up event. How, I wonder will the Great nazi Junta, assuming it’s still in operation, survive with no cops and no lights and nothing to eat? We might also ask the same questions of the Global South and East, Russia, China, and the Question about Africa…that one gets interesting.  Of course the solar-weather ruining the electrical machines, which is just about everything beyond a shovel or a knife, is not the old source of perturbations capable of beyond-the-elastic-limits of an Nth R-P…which means crack-break of R-P… So? Well, rocks. These happen. And Heaven hath shewn, there’s our moon, all bashed quite nicely… like the Rabbi’s story and drowning… God sent three boats.

    Which minds me again of why old stuff is old, it resists cracking…and similarly optimism is constantly reinforced by the increasingly astonishing discovery that every man must have when he arises each day, not dead. Optimism itself, a metamachine of sorts, may act as part of a machine to resist cracking.  I think so anyway. Hadrian’s Wall is made of optimistic concrete? Yeah.

    btw the machine meta think stuff was obsessive through adolescence, very unpleasant sometimes…it’s resolved now, but I can’t juggle as many bits anymore, not giant structures in detail. The intuition remains though. Feynman talks about the same thing. He was a motivated student. Me? Yerkiddin’

    Best! P

     

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17380
    Mr P
    Participant

    Yes, dear…or at least it’s a very old story I’ve heard many times. Before rail there were rut roads through soft rock, however the spacing was perhaps less, closer to donkey or mule.

    Roman roads were military assets, thus spacing for “mobile armor unit chariot ” and traction unit.

    De Re Metallica includes illustrations of rails in mines. Also pumps, etc.

    Best! P

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 7/08/2023 … Open Thread #17378
    Mr P
    Participant

    Thanks…people evolve. Rabbi say “many paths to God”.

    La Guardia (NYC mayor fame) used to say that “you can’t do nuthin’ if you don’t get elected”, or maybe it was Johnson… People do all sorts of stuff trying to get power. As you say, a strange one. Recalling that the indirect is usually a heavy effect, and BF Hart’s “Strategy”, (and Maud Lebowski! and the little Lebowski!) the regrettable secondary effect of peoples invading and stealing loot is probably heavier than the crime itself. A compound interest machine. How nice. At Anoxia the old crimes are put away, but dark forces tease them out like the 404nazis… We do hear of the open border and armies of young men… Whatever. Waters find their way. What’s stole sometimes comes unstole in troubled times.

    But about Africa and the Changes> interesting engineer cat

    https://substack.com/@bfrandall

    Not political, more like applied chemistry in a reality-based universe.

    One example this paper> https://bfrandall.substack.com/p/copper (there’s not enough and it takes massive amounts of money, electricity, and diesel to make a copper bar.)

    Maybe it might be relevant to  GS? Ahdunno. They say copper in Africa is sweeter stuff. They also say that Ruskie has plenty copper, and maybe NK? Greed fellas, greed, lazybunchfinkfascistthieves? Well…

    Fact’s, and imho he presents facts, matter like brick walls…

    (doing raisin dryness food measure chem to-day, hard to find procedure, we’ll take the basic approach.)

    (oopps! Desperado at the Quik E Mart waving a gun about. (probably a fake)…cops on it like stink…) Radio!

    Best!

    P

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