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ParticipantKevork and Syrian Girl talk about Syria, the past and the future, and the Levant: Palestine, Lebanon and Syria. She advances her view that all three countries should naturally be joined in war – and go all in, as the enemy has done – because war is upon them all, and there is no choice. She points out that there is no way to placate the Zionist terrorist, because he doesn’t want peace with you, he wants your land and you’re just in the way. I wish they could have talked for hours more…
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ParticipantIt’s kind of a side note, but as to Laith Marouf – I think it’s valuable to watch his talk with Dimitri Lascaris a couple of hours after the Garland talk. If you take it from a position of agreeing with Laith, and parse out everything he’s saying here – this is a very wide ranging geopolitical view.
I think Marouf will come to be seen as one of the key voices and thinkers in this situation. He continues to say that the Middle East is the front line of the western war against the east, and that, for so long as the ME engages the Zio-US, direct conflict is delayed against Russia and China (and Iran).
Whether this is seen or not by the east, and whether this is deliberate or not, this seems to be the dynamic of the situation, and I cannot fault it. It may not be how Russia and China think, but it certainly fits how they act. And the results work to their benefit.
Laith Marouf reminds me of Alexander Dugin in the breadth of his thinking – and it does strike me as that broad, and that intellectually substantial – and Sergey Karaganov in the pointed realpolitik of his conclusions.
Ok, and here’s the talk:
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ParticipantNow that I’ve watched the Laith-Garland talk, I agree with Laith. (Also with Garland.)
Laith’s point is that Russia, China and Iran have kept the gloves on and played by “Queensberry rules” against an adversary who is bare-knuckled, blood-simple, and utterly without compunction.
Anyone can understand why these states have acted this way, but every day now that they ponder if they should take the gloves off means the death of more innocents, the loss of more territory, and the compromise and destruction of more strategic positions. I think Syria shows this in high relief.
I haven’t agreed with Laith in some of his extremes, but I find that my own reflections from the fall of Syria have led me at this moment to a complete intersection with his views.
As he says, and as I think, and as – I assume – we all see: there is no UN, there is no international law, there is only power, and the correlation of forces on the ground. And this is the only lens thorough which the US-Zionist empire is looking at anything and everything.
So, that is the language that will need to be spoken, if the world is to be shaped in any specific way. Having said this, I understand if Russia, China and Iran choose to speak in their former language, and insist on elevating the game to a certain level, below which they will not sink.
But I also think this is the defining question of our time, and Laith has thrust it into the light: how brutally must we act, to get the attention of an adversary who thinks only in terms of brutality? What is a luxury that we can afford, and what is a luxury that we cannot afford?
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And on a personal note, I’m amazed that Laith can keep his grief at the loss of Syria so controlled that he can still offer profound geopolitical analysis (and I think it is profound, and meshes well with analysis from Joti Brar).
Personally, I find my grief for the loss of Syria overwhelms me daily. Every day it seems more impossible that this civilization should have been lost to the world, erased from the world.
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ParticipantFrom Syrian Girl: Damascus in the snow, December 12, 2010. Lovely video clip, it will make you smile and break your heart at the same time:
https://nitter.poast.org/Partisangirl/status/1868017733029495242#m
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ParticipantI posted the latest Joti Brar talk with Garland Nixon over at the Open Thread…but having now watched it I have to post it here in the Apocalypse, because she talks about Syria. As with so many things she touches on, her understanding of the tragedy of Syria in terms of imperialism considered within the scientific framework of Marxist-Leninist analysis…well, I found it the most sane understanding of this event that I’ve heard from anyone. She also at the end describes what WE should be doing to stop these things.
They are discussing the false “left” and false prosperity, all very normal talk for those two, and then at about minute 27:35 Joti falls into Syria, and that takes up the rest of the time. I can’t articulate how well she describes the situation, but see if you agree:
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ParticipantGrieved
ParticipantOver at Garland’s place, it’s another Joti Brar Friday:
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ParticipantThis is superb, thank you, emersonreturn
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ParticipantIt looks like you called it correctly, AHH. Many thanks for your persistent reporting. Personally, I want to let a bit more dust settle, to be clear on things. This will be an extraordinary story to unfold and learn from.
I cannot yet describe why I think this doesn’t actually mean the whole sky has fallen, because I don’t have the pieces to parse. But I think you feel somewhat the same way too, that the apparent fall of one element can often mean the relative rise of another. The universe loves irony, as we see daily.
Salut!
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ParticipantIt appears that Damascus has fallen. HST announces – to Reuters – that it has taken control of the city.
So, this is the appearance. And it may be true. I shall await further collateral.
For now, we have this report from the Cradle – be it noted that it only reports the releases from HST, and there is no collateral support: https://thecradle.co/articles/hts-declares-end-of-syrian-government-as-extremists-swarm-damascus
So it may be that everything that I have said was wrong, and that this is the truth. I simply cannot tell at the moment. Collateral, collateral, where art thou?
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ParticipantThis whole post is a bizarre and ghoulish hallucination.
I’m surprised to read that statement from Palestinian Commie – are we sure it came from him?
As for all the rest, from Strategika51, he’s been selling doom and wrong analysis for days now. Another example of how deeply this psy-op has penetrated. Seeping into the bones. Poisoning the spleen.
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This is what we can probably call true, from the Cradle news desk:
โThe SAA, paramilitary forces, and allies of the Syrian government withdrew from the city of Homs โฆ No clashes were recorded in or around the city before orders were given out to soldiers to withdraw,โ Al Mayadeen’s correspondent in Homs reported late on Saturday.
It is as Amarynth reported earlier on the Syria page, and we have to wait for more about what all this entails. Homs did not fall, it was given up, without a shot being fired. There was no fighting, there is no fighting. Civilians are spared, for now. God knows what the price of all this is, but we will find out soon enough.
Damascus stands, and Assad within it. And the SAA, as far as we know, also stands, and follows orders.
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ParticipantYes, cronetoo, I agree with your points and thank you for the Smoothie links – from which comes the following comment, which I will take the liberty of pasting at some length, because it shines the light into this false darkness that seems to have taken everyone like a sudden case of food poisoning:
“Lots of doomers about Syria & Assad on this thread.
I strongly disagree.
My 10 cents follows.
HTS have enjoyed some success via the element of surprise, but their run of good luck is coming to an end.
When I saw news of a withdrawal from Hama to permit citizens to get out, it immediately signalled to me that the Russians are likely running Syria’s military defence.
Why? Because these are classic Russian tactics, that we have already seen in Ukraine. The Russians get the citizens out of cities/towns and then create cauldrons, before wiping out the silly bastards trapped inside.
This will be an extremely effective tactic in Syria. Having been to Syria and travelled extensively through it, I can tell you it’s 95% flat desert. Towns like Aleppo & Hama are on the only main road, that traverses the country from north to south. In between there might be some very small towns but in reality, there’s nowhere for a military force to shelter.
HTS is vulnerable because they are forced to congregate in ‘cities’ (in reality, Aleppo & Hama are more like large towns), that are surrounded by open desert. They can’t access the coast.
Not just that. This isn’t just a fight between Assad v HTS. Syria is the battleground of a major regional conflict , and there’s just no way that Russia, Iraq, Iran or even China are going to let this western / Israeli/ Turkish proxy force prevail.
There is simply far too much at stake, whether it be Russia’s naval base at Tartus, control over oil supply routes through Syria, or the geopolitical objectives of these nations.
So, patience is the key here. Don’t be distracted by daily events and always focus on the big geopolitical picture.
My take? This has been a massive strategic miscalculation by Turkey, Israel and the US. These idiots in Ankara, Tel Aviv & DC have created a situation in Syria that they aren’t strong enough to sustain, once the Iranians, Iraqis, Russians (and maybe even the Chinese) get rolling, which they haven’t yet.
HTS will be crushed. I’ve no doubt about that. Sadly I think Aleppo, Hama and Idlib will be wrecked in the process. Putin backs Assad – ergo, HTS is doomed. Guaranteed.
Just my 10 c but I think we may also see an Oreshnik test in Syria – if Assad gives Moscow permission. Target? Idlib.
Israel? Will soon be hit very hard by Iran, I suspect. It’s clear that they’ve played a major role in this, and I suspect that all the Axis powers have had enough of their despicable psychopathic behaviour, as has the Arab League. Remember, Iran has the capability to pretty much destroy Israel as a functioning nation state.
Bye bye, Israel.
As for the US. Put it this way – I wouldn’t want to be a US soldier on those Syrian oil fields/bases, right now. Or on a US naval vessel anywhere within range of the Houthis. The US won’t be in the region at all by mid 2025.
Turkey? Just my opinion, but I think Erdogan is finished. He’s a scumbag and has played a very bad hand here, that will sink him. Turkey will eventually join BRICS with new leadership.
End of the day, what’s happening in Syria boils down to the same calculus as what’s happening in Ukraine : simply put, there is much higher quality leadership & strategic thinking in Moscow, Tehran, Beijing etc than in DC, London, NATO & Tel Aviv.
The ‘Axis’ powers are smarter, more patient, tougher and in military terms, far stronger than the collective West. This is a fundamental truth that the imbeciles running the West simply refuse to accept, and why they are doomed to fail, time and time again.
As will be seen in Syria.
Apologies for long post.”
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And Berletic in this thread further down from here, posted by AHH, confirms this tactic of an army withdrawing from indefensible positions to congregate in positions that can be defended.
In simple terms, Damascus will be hugely defended and Damascus will not fall. And the rest will fall into place from that fact.
Grieved
ParticipantI uploaded the Scott Ritter video so you can download it if you want – I couldn’t put it on a video site for you to watch online, unfortunately, it was too big (200Mb+). The link is in the comments to that Ritter posting of yesterday or whenever it was.
I’m with you on the optimism also. This fog of war is a fugue of despair and it seems to have pervaded everywhere. Everyone forgets that even a half-empty glass is always half full too. It just depends which side of the equation you want to look from. I didn’t invent that reality, the universe itself did – who could argue with that? ๐
Grieved
Participantyes, donmeh…thanks for that reminder, a blast from past analysis. Birds of a feather flock together, and this might be a tribal tie that binds, and connects a lot of underlying sympathies.
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ParticipantThank you! ๐ ๐
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