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Coolangubra; “All in You, All in Me”

The Most Rare of Birds!

love unties the
shackles of the mind and
frees the wings of soul

truth is easier
for the heart to accept
than it is for the mind

that which impedes the
soul is only a shadow
of a greater truth

make love thy master, for
love is God and whosoever
loves shall find God

soul dwells beyond time
and space in that nameless world
ye know as God

an untainted melody
singing deep within;
the most rare of birds!

Nico, it’s absolutely fine if you wish to define truth as “a pathless land”. However, existence implies or moves along certain paramenters or pathways, for example in the temporal world, all lifeforms exhibit growth cycles, beginning with birth, an apex or peak of attainment, then decline and eventual death. In spiritual terms, consciousness either moves forward, or backward, it never quite stands still due to the constant impressions brought about by experience after experience after experience. Even on a daily or micro level, Soul is in a continual state of subtle movement or growth.  The addition of constant impressions has the result of transforming consciousness from an initially ignorant to eventually, an enlightened state.

If what you mean by a “pathless land”, is an as yet undefined path, (ie; by someone else’s terms, and yet to be defined by one’s self), then yes, I agree. Every individual is a trailblazer, and that’s how it should be. But truth, ultimately, is not “a pathless land”. There are inescapable laws of life that one cannot hope to ignore, somehow circumvent or bypass. Like the laws that define existence in Nature’s kingdom, so are there higher laws, that define life in the invisible (to human eyes) or spiritual realm. These laws of life we eventaully grasp and live by and so employ on our journey or pathway through life.

The very concept of truth is personal, ie; defined by the individual. For some it may be philosophical, for others based on their survival needs, for mystics, poets and the like, it may be defined as that which inspires avenues to creativity or understanding, and so on down the line. There is no standing still in life, one either moves forward, or backward, and this movement therefore implies a path, or journey. To somewhere, some thing or even no thing.

amarynth; “I like truth being a pathless land…” I understand and accept as such. But what then is right and wrong? Why do we feel so strongly about what we perceive to be right and what is wrong? If it was a pathless land why should we care about what the next person does, or indeed, live our lives by some sort of ethic or moral code?  Why do we condemn the actions of some and condone the actions of others?  And this right or wrong is an all important component insofar as determining growth, understanding or movement toward meaning, God or however the individual may define their goal or purpose in life.

B/c without some concept of where one is going, there can be no pathless path. Even a “pathless path” is a path, lol.  Anyway, I think you know me well enough to know I’m not trying to “impose my views” over your own. Nor am I “trying to be difficult”, I genuinely got thinking about your statement, and went from there.

The Spear of Destiny

the spear of destiny;
no matter how high or low the aim,
will find its mark!

the riches of this world
blind the ignorant to the
riches of the soul

man’s fate lies buried
in the quicksand between
intention and action

the cure for evil;
the unobstructed sound and
light of God!

now and until the end
of all things, I am thy hope,
comfort and refuge!

So then, that God does not interfere in the world (directly), God’s values would be reflected in the actions of all those that have accepted them. But I don’t see it.

With due respect, your questions appear to be more or less the same questions you raised initially, and I doubt it will make any difference if I continue to respond to them as I have been doing.

The best response to the above would be;

man is a mirror,
but can only reflect as much truth
as Soul can hold

May I respectfully offer the flowing; your handle, “Unknown Destination” suggests to me that you need to define a destination for yourself. In other words, if you do not know where you are heading, how can you recognise the roadsigns or markers along the way? If you define a destination for yourself, then you will be in a better situation to understand what I have been attempting to communicate.

Kind Regards,

D:)

Before we can advance to an understanding of our relationship with Divine Spirit, and finding God’s love, it’s necessary to look at cause and effect, aka the Law of Karma. Until we have a rule for ourselves of what is right and what is wrong, we’re going to have a lot of unnecessary problems no matter what path we take through life.  What makes it so hard to determine right and wrong is that they are only an imperfect mirror image of the Law of Karma. Additionally, there are a number of different types of karma that affect us, and so our understanding of this rigid spiritual law, does not always fit logically with whatever explanations the mind may come up with re: events that befall us. Suffice to say, there are at least three types of karma we need to consider; fate, reserve and daily karma. Our present lifetime is often encumbered with the effects of our most recent incarnations.

We fall back on our creativity to deal with life’s challenges, and we do the best we can with whatever options and resources are available to us. We take the gifts and roll with the punches that come our way. Ideally, we should aim to get off the merry-go-round of karma (what the Buddhists call the Wheel of the Eighty-Four), and so establish as much control over our lives as possible. We learn through the hard knocks of life that there is a higher law. This higher law is the Law of Love. It essentially states that we must be willing to give whatever love is within our means, or charity, to God’s creatures, without thought of any return for our efforts. It also means allowing others their psychic space, or state of consciousness (if it is not directly affecting our state of consciousness), and finally, understanding that our freedom ends where the next person’s begins.

Our spiritual survival then begins to depend largely on our ability and / or willingness to listen to the guidance that is available to us via the inner channels. As we know, fate governs the conditions at a person’s birth; free will allows a choice as to how we move within and beyond them. In order to make the best of the choices that we face, we need to consider our spiritual toolkit, and the best resource available to us is the inner voice, should we care to take notice of its still, small whisperings. There is a spiritual saying along the lines of ‘one is better able to be of service to God, or life, by listening, than by speaking”.

Hence the need to establish a code to live by, and the need to stick to it. Without this personal code, we are like a leaf  blown about in all directions by the winds of life. Once we gain a measure of control over our actions and reactions, we begin to see the importance of the Law of Love in our lives. Indeed, it was and is the Law of Love that created, maintains and sustains all of life in all of God’s universes. The Law of Love therefore, is the golden coin we need to present at every doorway to a higher state of consciousness.

You mention that every soul is unique and has its unique approach to God. I would venture to guess that the vast majority of approaches to God, are to discount it, and ignore any approach completely.

It matters not whether Soul “discounts” God, is a “non-believer” or atheist, because It is still subject to the impersonal laws of life. It still must find some purpose and meaning in order to get of bed every day. If the individual devotes himself to something beyond his own desires and passions, then his life will not have been wasted. Whether Soul “discounts God” or not, does not mean that the unseen world – the spiritual reality beyond the physical senses does not exist.

Like the man who has never ventured beyond his village, he will never know what lies beyond the rise that disappears toward the horizon and must rely on hearsay. His curiosity will eventually get the better of him, and one day he will leave his familiar and safe world, to find out for himself.

You have said the soul-plane is only in the present, so there is no memory there, (no sense of a past). Isn’t learning a construct connecting the past to present discoveries? So how could soul learn any lessons in the timeless present?

Soul being composed of the same stuff as Divine Spirit is characterised by Its ability to see, know and be. The challenging part is that the mind often questions Soul’s understandings / intuitions, and so casts doubt on Soul’s perceptions. I did not say that “Soul has no sense of a past”. Of course Soul relies on past lessons and experiences in order to make properly informed choices in the present. That’s different to living in the past, or being the effect of it.

No worries, Destination Unknown, and thank you for your reply.

You are free to take or leave my views, as I say they are my distillations of lifetime(s) of experience and understandings. I am not here to impose my views but to offer them as part of the overall exchange. If they seem emphatic, then so be it.

First up, it’s my understanding that God, of Itself; the Deity or Creator, does not interfere in human history. The reason being, man has been given free will and so creates karma between himself and other men. The karmic debts that ensue must be worked out to the smallest detail, and that process is overseen by entities known as the Lords of Karma. Neigbourhoods, towns, cities, nations – just like the individual – exhibit unique characteristics that define unique states of consciousness. These states of consciousness then interact, it may be in harmony or just as often, coming to blows in pursuit of various interests such as resources, etc. Man forms strong opinions and loses sight of the spiritual overview, succumbing to the vagaries of human existence such as power, abundance or lack thereof, forms opinions that often sets him on a course of confrontation with his neighbours, and so on. Disagreements, even bloodshed ensues. Man is pushed to the extreme and develops extreme opinions. But as one wise man said, opinions are a dime a dozen and ultimately fickle, tomorrow will change and be held just as fervently as ever, until Soul finally cools Its hot head, and begins to move ever so slowly at first, toward the cooler, detached view of life, the narrow way as referred to by teachers like Buddha. This does not mean a lack of compassion, it does not preclude the individual from being a part of or pursuing or supporting causes he believes passionately in.

Finally, individuals, just like towns, cities, nations etc. also endure life cycles, ie; a beginning, a middle and end. Soul then incarnates from male to female embodiments, from riches to poverty, from being a member of a favoured race to being a member of a race out of favour with the powers that be, at a given time and place in history etc. All of this is in order to smooth out Soul’s rough edges and bring It into more of a detached or spiritual as opposed to emotional viewpoint of life.

There is a saying, “God sees the sparrow fall, but does nothing to stop it”. You refer to the wars, I am a Slav myself, and have felt the pricks of outrage and despair, but as Soul, I have a different perspective. I know that Soul, unlike man, survives the death of the physical body. This is the reason why God does not interfere with human history. Man has created the mess he is in, and man must try to resolve it, by one means or another. I do not buy into guilt trips that people who lack spiritual understanding attempt to impose. When one does not buy into their viewpoints re: this, that or the other religious, political or warring party / situation. Have you noticed how all these people constantly aver that God is on their side, they claim “God willing, we will have this or that victory”, and so on, as if they personally have God’s ear.

If this were the case, then God would be mightily confused, because what criteria would God use to favour one side over another? Every Soul is a child of God. Does a parent favour one child over another? Why would God forsake one of his children in favour of another?

The truth is that God is not concerned with human suffering as human’s believe IT should be. God is merciful, but all human suffering ultimately ends. Soul is God’s concern, not the human incarnation.

God sees the sparrow fall, but does nothing to stop it. When Soul is sincere and ready to approach God, the way opens for Soul to do that. But it does not mean that Soul will have an easy time of it. On the contrary, It may face difficulties It never could have believed possible. Then Soul’s tests begin in earnest. How much does Soul want God, and what is It prepared to give for IT? Soul must then show Its true mettle, for God must be won and re-won many times before Soul is ready to touch the hem of God’s robe.