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  • in reply to: The Hearty Salon 21/06/2023 … Open Thread #15630
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    Yes Sudhi, these things were known since dawn of civilization. Every human has a purpose and role.. even if most do not know it. A lucky nation has wise leadership which keeps these principles in mind, overlooks much during war by such men who’re invariably rash, impetuous and brutal in character.

    But betrayal is absolutely intolerable and cannot be forgiven. They killed men and attempted a coup on behalf of foreign (& internal) enemies. It has to be dealt with to maintain cohesion and respect of others in authority and for justice itself. Maybe he’ll fall off a cliff skiing, or be dined on by a lion in Africa, or whatever — but those who need to know will know and can close this sordid chapter. It shouldn’t harm Wagner in the long run at all since he was essentially a PR front. The foundational soldiers and GRU spooks and other nuts and bolts remain. If Russia can somehow avert nuclear provocations and nuclear war itself, its future is incandescently bright!

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 21/06/2023 … Open Thread #15623
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    I’ve stopped reading most of Hal. The sheer hate and slander of noble Shoigu! That tells you right there who remote controlled the Chef…

    The agony he transmits is unreal — like a mother of 14 who had all 14 slaughtered in front of her incredulous eyes. The copium by the intellectual spooks, and despondent grimness by the emotional ones. Was this it? Did they just blow their last conventional wad??

    ZZzzzzzzzz……………

    Well Smoothie decompressed from the madness of the weekend by watching videos he approvingly called, “pure unrefined military porn.” I suppose it suitably calms the crusty sailor. My equivalent are watching YT historical and geographical videos… here’s one:  among reasons Indians are unique, amongst leaders of Global South and being courted with frenzy even by the fallen West — Indian geography is Crazy! The diversity of everything is off the charts… I like the descriptor “sub-continent” which encapsulates the amazing range and glory of life. 450+ different languages!

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 21/06/2023 … Open Thread #15613
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    ‼⚡ Must watch outstanding interview. ⚡‼ Goes fast at 1.5 — 1.75x speed. Wraps another bow on overall contours of this affair. What remains are tactics of both sides, which will seep out eventually.. note his sobering comments at very end regarding the grim determination of the full quorum of the Russian Security Council. 

    I assume Wagner camps were approximate to Artyomovsk/Bakhmut and Lugansk. Much closer to Rostov (and severing critical SMO supply node) than to Belgorod. All-in-all, if Ukie offensive had worked and they’d received internal power structures’ support, it could have been a devastating gambit, albeit short-term. Russia still enjoyed air superiority and escalation dominance and had nukes and as VVP said would have snuffed it out no matter what it took. So even in best case scenario, it was a mad suicide mission for short term political optical gains — like Feb 1917.

    And that raises the question, who are the current bolsheviks, the follow-ons still under wraps and biding their time for the moment of serious weakening when the sixth column fools sufficiently did their task? I would think these are the most disciplined of all, not exposing themselves with making calls or premature celebrations or fleeing the country in panic. They remain burrowed in comfortable stasis like a hard dry seed….

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 21/06/2023 … Open Thread #15605
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    There is no let up in rabid Little Britannia. Even while they reel from the humiliation of abject coup failure which actually strengthened Russia, and all are taking stock and peace threatens to break out as the demented West realizes the utter futility of defeating Russia any which way… they stage “the most serious confrontation between the Russian military and a NATO surveillance flight over the Black Sea since March!”

    And now, the senior Russian senator is also given top billing on RT that the crazies are trying to coup Serbia. No sense or shared humanity! Do they want mankind to kettle them in their semi-barren islands and wall them off in a permanent reservation? What drop in QoL would it take to get current elites hung? What does a village eventually do to a rabid dog roaming rampant and trying to bite all that it sees?

    ZZzzzzzzzz……………

    Flotsam from the Maelstrom – “Historical Quirks”

    (1) Why did little Bonn become defeated and occupied West Germany’s capital? Interesting reasons… my quaint home for a half decade

    (2) “Why did the Roman Empire stop growing?” An interesting question. It’s breadth was almost static for 400 years… it’s not just because of political viability or that they ran out of pleonexia (that’s not possible with elites).. There were formidable geographic barriers in various directions — oceans of sand south and SE, mountains SW and NW, an ocean to W… and to the E were fierce opposing empires (Persians) or steppe horse warriors.. and the Earth is simply too wide for any one group?? Consider how homesick we get the farther away we travel!

     

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 21/06/2023 … Open Thread #15569
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    Dear emerson, the ironies of history and how various personages flutter from era to era. You will love this. Tolstoy, whose grandson Pepe recently met in Moscow, appears linked to this bizarre coup by our torpid Chef.

    I learned a few hours ago the centrality of Tula (both its river Oka and the young can-do governor, who used to be Putin’s bodyguard btw) and SVR head Naryshkin to defusing the cornered Chef and arranging his permanent sojourn abroad..

    I wrote last year in our old Cafe about the history of the Voentorg building in Moscow. It was inspired by Auslander recounting the Russians still using a [minesweeper?] built from around WW1. The Voentorg building was similarly long lived.

    It was built on the famous Vozdvizhenka Street, home to various nobility, such as the Tolstoys and Naryshkins. I am assuming he is of that family! But given his connections and career trajectory and intense patriotism for his land, what are the odds they are not?

    And for a while, the author Tolstoy lived walking distance from Tula too. So on one of the most fateful days in Russia’s long history, a hopeless ragtag mercenary column was halted in Tula, and its governor and a Naryshkin were instrumental in averting bloodshed between Russians……

    PS – Larch, the Chef was not expected to succeed. Just to start internal bloodletting and discredit the Wagner brand abroad. Perhaps that explains VVPs deep anger in the proclamation. They meant to put him in zugzwang — to have to kill a bunch of deluded and ill-equipped Russians on Russian soil. A humiliation either way. It would have unraveled many strong threads that took generations to weave, both inside and outside Russia. This is why the Tula gov, Naryshkin, Luka and whomever else finessed it will live on evermore as permanent heroes….

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 21/06/2023 … Open Thread #15551
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    Yes A! They not only didn’t lose that lovin’ feelin, it is positively blooming. Even Patrick’s stutter is pronounced due to the excitement. The ridicule which may accrue from this coup debacle is unbelievable. Unlivable!!

    PS — look at that African brother lounging on the Wagner tank above in Sudhi’ post!!! says it all. A student on summer leave who recognized old pals from the Sahel and decided to share beers?! Can you imagine the emotions of our intrepid Chef, seeing this tableau?!! Maybe Lukashenko’s job was to convince him not to pull the trigger on himself! 😅
    This is beyond farce. Only Rod Sterling’s Twilight Zone comes close. The last shred of Respect and Fear of crazies is in a winning race against Dedollarization and Disinvestment.

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 21/06/2023 … Open Thread #15548
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    Well said. Many a bow being tied off, to mix metaphors, in this cruel age for a decadent and inadequate Hegemon..

    https://youtu.be/LPr3N4AMXNQ

    And that’s why we love the old tiger! Is this the Anthem of the Russian FSB? He sings The Police to affirm what Smoothie and Ishchenko said; that this is the Keystone Coup of all times. Adding to galactic bitterness of our eternal Losers, the neocons — they’ve now cemented the prestige and secure power of VVP within Russia through this stunt. During the Spring Equinox, the Emperor XJP was wise to congratulate him in advance for winning the 2024 election.

    “By Saturday evening, the foreign intelligence chief Sergey Narishkin announced that the coup attempt had failed. The Russian authorities were waiting for Prigozhin to make his move.

    Looking back, as he does over the Chef’s actions of the last year, it becomes clear to deduce the coup was building since 2022… everything, from the BS shells shortage now said to be stocking up, shaped the coming move this past weekend. (Q: are most dastardly stock market & regime change shenanigans scheduled for weekends?!)

    “Interestingly, though, at some point, much to Prigozhin’s annoyance, Moscow also began deploying regular troops selectively on the Bakhmut front alongside the Wagner fighters.” All that talk of regular troops cowardice and ineffectiveness on his flanks… would a robber want to hemmed by the police breathing down his tight neck the days before the big heist?! 🤣😂

    Maybe our poor Chef went literally crazy not from PTSD but the dawning realization every move was being checked in advance! His role strictly defined and boxed in. He and his troops would die honestly storming for nation, rather than dishonestly storming for power back home! 😂👍🏼👏🏻 Oh those clever Rooskies! Will not hesitate to use even a rotten tool for a good purpose lol. The sweetness of shaping, like water flows over its channel.

    And the cherry: carted off like a freshly gelded steer to the pasture, “under the benevolent eyes of President Alexander Lukashenko.”

    I’ve long loved our tractor farmer Luka. My favorite dictator for life. His narcissism and “multi-vector diplomacy” of most years since 1991 were worth tolerating. Look what he’s achieved since Jan 2022! He brought Nazarbaev and now the Chef in from The Cold. And even prior, the balls to personally face off the Belarus coup attempt with an AK in his stubby and well-worn hands.

    But all this effort at regime change in Moscow is another notch on the ledger, after the economic war of sanctions, instrumentalizing the UkroNazis, funneling in arms, cash, ISR, media support, Poles & mercs, etc… He finishes a most thoughtful and foreboding article with the terrible accounting due the perfidious West!

    What a piece by the Indian maestro diplomat.

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 21/06/2023 … Open Thread #15542
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    Yes!

    Re: “They may now redouble their efforts at subversion, imagining that they “almost” did it.”

    We are on same wavelength or frequency. This was my sense. Another attempt. And very soon. In fact, the whole world’s holding its breath. And in a way they are correct. This is the point of vulnerability for Russia, right after a [clumsy] attempt. All worldwide are watching.

    Imagine if they can swing a lunatic or oligarch under Kompromat and under wraps since the SMO began to start something now and inside the capital. It doesn’t even have to be serious. Just enough to keep the rocking going, sow the doubts. It’s all mindwar now.

    There’s a formula I’ve long forgotten of how to establish resonance. In medical resonance, you keep percussing and tapping the chest until you find the dull spot, the sick spot. And under current existential conditions, you keep tapping..

    ➡️ under the current circumstances, the point is not regime change but “to freeze multipolarity.” All subsequent steps, whether BRICS currency, defense against hegemony, diplomatic networking, etc.. rely on Russia and confidence in Russia. If it cannot be militarily defeated, they will work for political defeat — sow chaos any which way, or convey the image of a house built on sand.. the target audience being those counting on Russia in BRICS+ & the Global South. To somehow demoralize them and beat them back, and buy time.

    So the next phase will be a test of counterintelligence, interior ministries, old-fashioned police work.

    This is not my line of work or comfort zone. So I don’t see the back-and-forth that is coming. But I am sure Rooskies studied 101 examples and Gene Sharp’s little grimoire. Pappa Patrushev and Nervous Naryshkin up to bat in this phase

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 21/06/2023 … Open Thread #15537
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    You may be onto more than you know! I worked as a medical student in the psych ward – both inpatient and outpatient. The drugs they have now are terrible, precluding need of straitjackets. Indeed, some of the over the counter sleep meds like Colin Powell’s favorite Ambien lead to such mental sluggishness the next day as to be a form of chemical restraint! The entire Big Pharma Cartel is run by criminals who help create problems which require more meds with more side effects that require more meds ad infinitum….

    did the MIC Merchants of Death learn how to create useless boondoggles and weapons systems for pure unending profit and constant maintenance and upgrades by watching the business model of western Big Pharma of the last several centuries??

    Anyway, the rage he expresses in his videos is scary and frankly psychotic — beyond abnormal. In fact, i have seen videos of demonic possession that are like that. Nervous breakdowns can present opportunities for possession. And definitely drug use is another portal. In fact, the point of Ukies and NATO requiring their troops to drug up has clear secondary objectives, besides giving endurance and focus and other short term battlefield advantages (which cost the individual in recovery time and long term health) — it could be a conscious ploy to invite principalities to assist their side. That’s also why their nazi cadre leaders in Odessa and Mariupol were caught with male escorts — sodomy is another portal, like drugs… also famous in Himmler’s SS during WW2.

    I also documented in Lineaments P07 the satanic shrines and totems found in Ukie foxholes and hastily abandoned battle sites… so this is a war on many levels, many hidden to us. I agree with Mr P and others that perhaps the Chef started his fall when he started using drugs (if he did so — it may be simple PTSD, extreme rage itself another portal, or narcissism) in trying to keep up with his youngsters. Remember he is 61 years old and not a spring chicken. He may have taken stimulants to keep up with the youngsters. Stimulants are given out like candy to many militaries, for example I heard of US Air Force to help keep sleep at bay and for focus on long flights. It also reduces hunger and may be cynical device on troops with reduced food logistics at the front…

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 21/06/2023 … Open Thread #15533
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    Yeah Sudhi, excellent questions. Like why Russians didn’t carpet bomb the Ukraine and cut off the electricity and internet from day one, or sever the bridges over the Dnieper, etc… This is a most unusual war. An SMO is the perfect moniker. And Russians see these foes as mindwashed and drugged brothers and need to live next to the survivors…

    On reflection i am leaning toward a coup attempt. But the most deranged and unprofessional one in history. Compromised long in advance by Russian intel, who rode its wave for various secondary uses, chiefly to clean house, including sclerotic figures within the MoD and the PMC paradigm itself and evicting the Chef from a useful fighting force, which is according to most now the top global urban shock troops alongside the Chechens.

    It was a coup given the extraordinary alignment of forces. Russia a year and a half into the war was expected to have a cratered economy, hungry, internationally isolated, with internal sabotage/terrorism & oligarchic comeback & chaos, the Ukie land army on the deep offensive and within Russia proper — and the NATO air force jumping into the fray with Air Defender and tactical nukes. A disillusioned and cynical Wagner merc group was supposed to apply the coup de grâce, a relatively unopposed mop up duty… but the one-track deviants didn’t update the plans or rather they chose to escalate by trying to suicide Wagner. Like the Ukies, Wagner could at least be used to stir up chaos and prolong the war and hopefully weaken Russia somehow. Fortunately most in Wagner were patriotic and the few thousands that crossed the border were supposedly tricked into thinking they were defending Belgorod… And Russia refused to incinerate a friendly force, patiently letting negotiations, Chechens and the absurdity of the entire situation lead to defusing of the standoff. Thank God that paid off.

    The rapidity of the coup resolution, full support by the power groups and entire nation of Putin, and its totally anticlimactic and full capitulation by the Chef, now has the opposite effect. It strengthens Russia. It demonstrates to 5th columns internally and both allies & enemies externally the deep resiliency and legitimacy of their state, notwithstanding the agitprop of the West. Back to square one for the crazies. 🙏🏼👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 21/06/2023 … Open Thread #15529
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    Were there aircraft even shot down and men killed?? Could it all have been Telegram CGI and AI, used by the Usual Suspects to stir things along? Peskov did say at the conclusion that no blood had been shed. We could have been suckered beforehand …. dastardly social media!!

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 21/06/2023 … Open Thread #15525
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    Re: “have known men that were simply formed to be warriors, physically and by character. Many die young”

    Yes I’ve known such youth too. Misfits in general society who burn up their candles not only at both ends but torch the middle too. But once in a blue moon, such as in a SMO or in a good just battle, they find their mission in life. And songs such as this honor them for the next millennium

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 21/06/2023 … Open Thread #15523
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    I am not so sure Mr P… that was genuine anger and discomfort on VVP’s face. They shot down a chopper and killed men. It was coordinated with the “counteroffensive” and many other moves. (Smoothie’s last video hints at what will eventually come out – that this was the real deal and their intel was onto it, and shaped it towards desired ends…)

    Being branded a Traitor by Public Prosecutor is not a light matter, etc….. Yeah, men have taken a knee for their nation during existential times, but this is excessive. And risking the focus of the SMO and integrity of the critical defensive line during contrived Chaos? Naah, this is most unorthodox and unnecessary. Too many moving balls in the air….

    Rather the Chef was turned at the end, or convinced to take an offer he couldn’t refuse. They had a full profile on him after living 60 sensuous years in St. Petersburg. They know their own and where to apply “counter-pressure.”

    I am leaning toward Larry’s piece being part of Swamp copium. The stink of amateurism wafts to the highest Heaven! This is unlivable and so cringeworthy….. Oh, the serving of crow served to the sinking scum!

    Like the Judge, Macgregor and Hal, he needs to periodically post matter from the Firm too..

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 21/06/2023 … Open Thread #15516
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    Good riddance!! May we see or hear the last of Chef Windbag! I am worn out, disgusted how much time and energy he wasted — and I was among the minority that never followed nor listened to his crap on social media. I understood he was a necessary evil for many reasons, not least to while away the delusional hopes and crazed yearnings of Anglo-Americans whilst their empire was being efficiently quartered. Each man for his times, no?

    In that regard, he was absolutely perfect. What is the saying — we would have to create him if he didn’t exist?! A God-send for Russia and Operation Z and to keep millions in the Global South engaged and rooting for the Good Guys. Only an arrogant self-possessed and cursing tyrant Narcissist coulda done it. Respect to the old boy.

    In War, it is such SOBs that carry the day, not soy-boys. A naked sword is a naked sword — there is inherent lack of grace, subtlety, manners, and utility outside of raw savaging. But none defends a Nation better.

    I heard from Yemeni saying as much. Once upon a time, millennia ago, a people complained about the rough uncouth semi-brigands marching to war through their village. An elder cautioned patience: these were men built for War, they would preserve their mutual honor and carry the battle against even the fiercest enemy. And a Sword is not a flower nor a gentle farmer… so it is incumbent on the too-civilized and dainty city folks to overlook their slights and the inevitable mess that trails their wake… for the very rumour of the coming of Our Barbarians can sometimes cause the foe to flee or obviates the need for battle.

    And that informs why his intolerable mutiny and participation in the amateurish coup attempt didn’t meet summary capital punishment. On the balance, before he went ape-shit, likely due to PTSD the poor schmuck, his social media virtuoso conducting alone was worth Gold and eternal forgiveness.

    Putin’s handling of his implosion was masterful. What a leader! 🙏🏼🤲🏼 He swallowed his rage, remembering services tendered and the need to preserve the Myth of Our Barbarians. This needs to remain a point of pride on Russian mantles for another 100 generations. He saw, as with getting Ukies to fight their slavic cousins, that Wagner was as much a target of this Anglo plot. It was deftly handled, and in-house using the services of the Union State in breathtaking speed. Can you hear the wailing from London and Foggy Bottom? Lord Austin ran outta diapers long ago…

    All civilizations have had legendary figures like our cuddly Chef… reaching the highest highs in the history of their peoples and plunging so shamefully low in such quick succession. But Time and fragile human memories are most kind — their latter ugliness will soften out. We will forgive and forget the Fall..

    Just crossing our fingers the Last Dictator of Europe can bore him to death on the fields with manly work farming potatoes or splitting wood for Duda and other needy folks further west!

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 21/06/2023 … Open Thread #15500
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    😂🤣😘

    The tsunami of memes which will come the next days will be unforgettable

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