unbelievable. I told you to pay attention to headlines for satanic mockery. “88”, in homage to the trumpet destroyer of the Moshiach! Even fanatical observation of ritual numerology during civilizational collapse.

Also another 88 obliquely: 3+5=8. They mention giving incentives of $35,000 (first 8), and moving 35,000 jobs by decade end (second 8, for another 88). Absolute scum, mocking folks as they pull them, like Building 7. And of course lying too, as there will be NO more jobs whatsoever by decade end.

Please do not get mired in the unending stream of BS, like that A.I. trying to browbeat Will Schryver into submission. Focus on the numbers and understanding that 99.9999999999% is gaslighting at this point, like the US, Europe and UkroNazis “negotiating” solely among themselves on terms unacceptable to Russians, or the sane victors of any war.

Pure narrative filler. There is no off ramp. There are no reverse gears. There is not the slightest possibility of return to sanity, for they ceased to be sane. Just possessed madmen willing evil to drown the Cosmos in blood. They’re gonna need to be fumigated and cleansed with platforms carrying and launching the heat of the sun…

more on the cat and mouse around Odessa. Excellent color and detail

i’ve not been following the spate of murders, but clicked on this as a nuclear scientist, most unusual. Wait until it’s spun or was set up to implicate Iran “avenging their nuclear scientists”. Some are hellbent to arrange the Murder-Suicide carved into the Stars, and will eventually achieve it.
PS – I also clicked as lived near here for several years – these are sedate folks, not like the wild years of Boston mafia yesteryeres, especially the Cambridge academic lot. It was a hit. The Zionazi Rapture builds momentum….
PPS – bingo. I just read elsewhere he’s zionazi jewish-american.. where’s the cross-eyed valhalla dude.. As Skinny Daddy might say, “it’s showtime, baby”

I’m not Chinese, and I only saw pictures, and I don’t forgive the fokkers. Never.
You can’t forgive stuff like that.
— Ben Magrane (@ben_magrane) December 16, 2025

🔻 Jeff Steele: Japanese not sitting this out: |link|
🔻 WS: Well … if they don’t, the Chinese will mercilessly trample them into the fading annals of history.
🔻 Loek van Kooten, 🇳🇱🇪🇺🇯🇵🇨🇳: No they won’t.
🔻 WS: If Japan joins with the US in a war against China, Japan will most assuredly be trampled underfoot in the ensuing maelstrom.
[Japan’s already taken enough steps to guarantee it, starting with joining anti-Russia cabal in 2014..]
🔻 no2wipp: how is this not chinese superority? one should think twice before making the same mistake of superiority the West is in the process of projecting…
🔻 WS: I am 100% certain the Chinese WILL make the same mistake. It just won’t be apparent for some time to come.
🔻 no2wipp: we are seeing a new beast with the head?
🔻 WS: We are seeing 21st century human nature.
🔻 Denethor: How do they just sit it out, ridiculous thing to say. Do they just watch as China reorders the Pacific an eventually become surrounded?
🔻 WS: It is quite obvious that China is now the dominant power in the western Pacific, and will continue to be so for decades to come.

In my view, Japan’s best option is to acknowledge this reality and make decisive moves to establish a friendly relationship with China.
🔻 Shang Yang: This gives China an entry to change things. China has 3 demands of Japan: respect the one China policy, don’t allow the US to use Japan as staging ground for attacking China, and be China’s partner. Or else.
🔻 Дневник страданий и скорбей ☀️: ♋️; ⤴️: ♍️): Japan is proving itself to be the Ukraine of East Asia. Petty, vulgar, who loves to bark but has zero bite and is more than happy to bend over to their megalomaniacal masters.
🔻 Eileen: I hope the West especially the US will be careful too. They are playing the victim in Pear Harbor attack as well.
🔻 Felix Su: The Japanese aren’t smart enough to sit it out. They want to try and take China again, this time with US help.

Yes, they’re that stupid. Never mind that they can’t succeed. If they even come close to invading China, Japan will be cleansed using Sun fire. But they don’t care.

---

An interesting attempted take-down follows. Timewaster assumed authority regurgitating reams of data to drown debates. Somewhat hard to follow, and likely not in perfect chronological order, as both versions of Twitter appear heavily curated to defend their satanic side…

Meh.

The British never, at any time, faced an existential threat from the Germans.

A threat of modest damage? Sure.

But an existential threat? Never.

The only existential threat the British have ever faced was from within. And now the swan song has begun.
— Will Schryver (@imetatronink) December 16, 2025

🔻 S Tominaga: [machine garbage to exhaust you, Part II]
🔻 WS: Non sequitur. You should not have gone to so much trouble to defend an indefensible argument.

The UK was never alone. The Anglo-American Empire was already well-advanced. Germany had negligible naval power, and its primary focus from the very beginning was Russia, not Britain.
🔻 S Tominaga: [machine garbage to exhaust you, Part III]
🔻 WS: You made the fallacious assumption that I was making an argument for British neutrality. My argument was very narrow: that at no time in WW2 did Britain face an existential threat.

There was never ANY question that the US was going to enter the war in full force.

Germany never had the power-projection potential to do any of the grandiose things your reply envisions. And 80%+ of the power-projection potential it DID possess was squandered in an easily predictable catastrophe in eastern Europe.
🔻 S Tominaga: [machine garbage to exhaust you, Part IV]
🔻 WS: Thank you for so conclusively confirming my suspicions.

I had wondered if these new LLMs could do passably authentic adversarial debate and even polemics. The answer is obviously yes.

But they clearly cannot “think” outside of consensus historical interpretation.

What an intriguing era has now been inaugurated …
🔻 S Tominaga: [machine garbage to exhaust you, Part V]
🔻 WS: The main tell is that there are getting to be so many people using the same tools that now the apparently limited number of complex constructions and strained poetic juxtapositions and repetitive syllogistic cadences give the game away.

It is, however, as I said, a very intriguing thing to observe, nothwithstanding its underlying sterility.
🔻 S Tominaga: [machine garbage to exhaust you, Part VI]
🔻 WS: Fascinating.

🤔 But to what end, I wonder.

Maybe it’s just model training. Building the Perfect Litigator, perhaps? That would save law firms oodles of money.

Hard to say with any certainty at this point, but I will definitely keep my eye on these developments.

🔻 WS: You must master the art of the 280-character post. Lean yet pregnant with meaning. A long post now and then is fine. But the true masters of this platform are the ones who can stuff persuasive argument and easily comprehensible meaning into 280 characters or less.
🔻 S Tominaga: [machine garbage to exhaust you, Part VII]
🔻 WS: Have it your way blowhard. 😉

You and your little chatbot buddy can go conquer the Twitterverse and tilt at as many Potemkin windmills as suits your fancy.

The only thing you’ll lack is sustained engagement, but maybe that’s not important to an automaton. 😏

Happy trails.
🔻 S Tominaga: [machine garbage to exhaust you, Part VIII]
🔻 Dr. Anton: It’s exhausting reading these replies….
[well don’t. This doc understood after garbage entry #1, skimmed the next piece of soulcrusher crap, and stopped skimming after #3 or 4. You play by their rules: you lose]
🔻 S Tominaga: [machine garbage to exhaust you, Part IX]
[I only continue to submit to emphasize the maniacal non-human nature. Just skim through it quickly to get a sense of the load of work, in such short timeframe, and with near impossible recall and breadth even for those with photographic memory.. And the emphasis on victory, even if through Hunger, you’ve exterminated the entire population. Gaza, VZ, anyone? Welcome to the Legion of the Moshiach…]
🔻 WS: Oh, and the seemingly inexhaustible and frequently awkward metaphors.

And I cannot recall ever seeing a typo or misspelled word.

I now follow three such accounts in my continuing study of the phenomenon.
🔻 S Tominaga: [machine garbage to exhaust you, Part X]
[and vicious too. I do think this is a djinn… as mElon muskRat said, careful with A.I., as it’s raising the demon]
🔻 S Tominaga: The end — your avoiding admitting you are wrong.
🔻 WS: “you’re”

Left to your own devices your spelling and grammar are apparently not nearly as pristine. 😏
🔻 Citizen_BB: I think your assessment is essentially correct but technically incorrect. It’s only because of the unpredictability of war. It seems to me Britain was in a strong position to avoid any sustained land invasion, however, the right set of blunders could still have caused disaster.
🔻 WS: Germany had no capacity whatsoever to land an expeditionary force in Britain: virtually no navy; no amphibious ships; very little seaborne logistics capability. They literally NEVER could have sustained a large force even if they COULD land one (which they absolutely could not.)
🔻 The Costermonger: You’re absolutely right, Will. English language tutor of 35+ years here. Human writing is easy to spot by its flaws.
🔻 PatMc_uint32_t: Guys, quick PSA: you’re arguing with Craig Wright a.k.a. Faketoshi, a well known fraud, serial abuser of legal process, and recent ChatGPT addict. For years he claimed to be Satoshi Nakamoto, the inventor of Bitcoin. He isn’t. Google him. He’s a moron.
🔻 WS: I was aware of that. It had no bearing on my interaction with him. My objective was simply to explore the reaction of the obviously “assisted” elements of his posts.
🔻 The Costermonger: Your writing is impossible to construct in the time you replied to Will.
🔻 WS: Yeah, that was a dead giveaway, too. In any case, we will see increasingly more of this sort of thing. I have already gotten to the point where I can detect the tell-tale stylistic elements immediately. But stylized rhetoric cannot compensate for historical ignorance.
🔻 WS: There is no indication whatsoever of reflection. When provoked (and it didn’t require much), it dove instantly into lengthy adversarial rebuttal mode, heaped high with immaterial rhetorical flourishes like so much detritus in a dry wash after a flash flood. (Now that is a good concrete metaphor!)

There is another account out there who is cosplaying as some wizard-type entity within the matrix. But I can’t recall the handle right now. The avatar is a hooded head; shadowed face. Hopefully I’ll come across it again. I want to include it in my review of this new genre. Or should I call it a genus? 🤔😏
🔻 The Costermonger: Spot on about the reflection.

It took so long to say so little & definately not suited to X responses.

And the kicker is: human expertise in a knowledge subject always trumps the machine. I think 😎.
🔻 S Tominaga: Which is why he failed to answer any point…
🔻 abo mac: Well they both failed to continue a constructive argument!

And started attacking!

People usually start attacking when they are weak! When the argument falls apart!

If I was the moderator on this debate!

@CsTominaga automatically wins because the competition quit!
🔻 The Costermonger: But you’re not a moderator & he didn’t.

And it’s the subjunctive verb form.

Toodle pip.
🔻 WS: That’s another thing I’m going to start watching more closely: how well these chat bots use the subjunctive.
🔻 Irony Man: Britain never faced a threat of this magnitude: systematic identity change driven by guilt, policy, and parasitic empathy.
History didn’t prepare them for this.
🔻 Dog’s Belly Wine 🦌: city of london’s greed took them from a third rate power to a third world country

he’s retweeting a buncha old Jacques Baud content in protest of the criminality against him

Or centuries…https://t.co/bzSb6eoykI
— Mats Nilsson (@mazzenilsson) December 15, 2025

We’ll know the actual aftermath soon enough

What’s interesting is how they got control of the camera overlooking the dock, timed it just right when the harbor defense booms were lowered, and how an underwater drone could have reached Novorossiysk from Odessa in the first place
— Russians With Attitude (@RWApodcast) December 15, 2025

🔻 WS: What we do know for certain is that a large proportion of the “video evidence” emerging from Ukrainian sources in recent weeks and months is AI-manipulated.

From the very beginning, Ukraine’s guiding motto has been:

“If we can’t win a real war, let’s win an imaginary one.”

It is on a few other sites. https://t.co/caOeSo5RR3
— Sal Mercogliano (WGOW Shipping) 🚢⚓🐪🚒🏴‍☠️ (@mercoglianos) December 15, 2025

🔻 WS: And it is as much #FakeNews there as it was on OSINTtechnical.

But that’s your favorite kind, right? 😏

In any case, no Russian subs or ships were affected.

#TheImaginaryWar
🔻 WS: retweets:
🔻 Armchair Warlord: TFW your drone operators are so brain-dead they mistake a guard shack on the pier for a submarine conning tower, sail clean past two actual submarines, and ram the kill drone they elaborately slipped into Novorossiysk into the side of dock.
🔻 Paidman Sal: That looks a lot like the profile of a Russian Kilo sub and a detonation taking place off its stern.

They definitely hit the dock too.
🔻 Serge: There’s zero wave propagation after the ‘explosion’.
[Is this Little Serge? We got our own eclectic side too]
🔻 WS: If one believed what the Ukrainians have claimed over the course of this war, the Russian Black Sea Fleet would be reduced to a tug and a skiff.

But all you ever have to do is wait a few days or weeks to see almost all their specious claims prove to be nonsense propaganda.
🔻 Niall East: If they were as good as they claim they would have destroyed their most desired target, the Kerch Bridge, a long time ago
[The Anglo-Zionazi-UkroNazi BS artists of our times.. only Incitatus dropped more]
🔻 LostDervish: Something inspired by the British.
[Ahh. The frequency’s universal. The reputation of some proceed them, pungent unto the Heavens..]
🔻 WS: More than inspired. I am about 99.99% certain that, whatever it was, it was designed, built, and operated by the British.

And, of course, the Russians know this. And they will take their full vengeance at a time and a place they alone will determine.
🔻 LostDervish: I think Putin will not dare. He still hopes to be drinking champagne in Davos with them one day….!
🔻 WS: Nonsense. You, like a great many people, are apparently ill-informed about what Putin really thinks, and what his objectives really are.

I have read a substantial portion of everything Putin has said over the past 25 years. He does not pine for western fellowship in the manner you apparently believe.
🔻 Egitaniense 🇵🇹: Probably just a failed attempt to hit a surface ship, later heroically rebranded by Ukrainian propagandists as “taking out a submarine.” Because, of course, they’d never actually target a submarine — that would sink the whole purpose of their PR masterpiece.
🔻 Ben: Statement by Russian MoD |link|

💠 @imetatronink:
⭕ Jacques Baud with an update to his epic Ukraine War analysis from April 1.

*** HIGHLY RECOMMENDED *** |link|
⭕ This is a MUST WATCH interview of Jacques Baud by @aaronjmate . Baud is indisputably qualified to speak to the topic of both what caused the Ukraine War, and the true state of affairs in that war. |link|
⭕ I’ve closely followed interviews of Jacques Baud since early in the Ukraine War. His experience and qualifications are impeccable.

This interview is arguably his most comprehensive to-date. It is long, but absolutely essential.

* HIGHLY RECOMMENDED * |link|
⭕ Jacques Baud is a brilliant analyst, with impeccable credentials. I try to follow everything he writes or says in interviews.
⭕ Swiss Army Colonel (ret.) Jacques Baud with another superlative analysis of the ongoing Ukraine War and its geopolitical implications.

He echoes in detail most of what I’ve been saying for months.

* HIGHLY RECOMMENDED *

(h/t @Erieislandlady) |link|
⭕ 🧵 Col. Jacques Baud Interviews

I have watched two interviews of Col. Jacques Baud this week, the first on
@TheDuranReal, and the second on the @DanielLDavis1 “Deep Dive” podcast.

They are quite distinct from each other. I highly recommend them both. |link|
⭕⚡️ Jacques Baud has done numerous excellent interviews in recent months. In my estimation, this one is particularly notable and uniquely worthy of your time.

* HIGHLY RECOMMENDED * |link|
⭕ Col. Baud understands The Russian Art of War. |link|

“Trump signed an Executive Order declaring the drug Fentanyl, and it’s pre-cursor chemical, to be a “Weapon of Mass Destruction.”

This clears the legal path for the U.S. to strike militarily, ANYWHERE Fentanyl is located.”

NB. Most precursors are in China. Most processed products are in Mexico. Do the math

💥 Footage of the destruction of the 225th Motor Rifle Division of the Armed Forces of Ukraine by fire from the “Tornado-S” multiple rocket launcher system in the area of the settlement of Gulyaypole pic.twitter.com/rhKfcBTit2
— Bernadette 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪🇷🇺🇵🇸 (@BDooher) December 15, 2025

Isn’t that a big FAB? Either way a death trap, straight to Bandera. The unenviable fate of ALL NATOstan at this point

Dmitry Rogozin leaves a helpful map of the coming Punishment on Perfide.
NB. look at that horror of a face on the new nazi MI6 boss. Do not her eyes look like those of Erika Kirk?? The pools of evil brimming from within the eyes are incontainable – they’ve contaminated the entire face into a rigid plastic masque

💠 @Sputnik Africa:
⭕❗️Russia Seeks to Stop Ukrainian Conflict, Achieve Its Goals & Guarantee Peace in Europe for Future, Kremlin Says

Moscow wants peace, not a truce, so that Kiev can get a break and prepare to continue the conflict, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov stressed, commenting on the idea of a Christmas truce.
⭕ Moscow will make no concessions regarding Donbass, Novorossiya, or Crimea, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov stated in an interview with a US broadcaster.

💠 @Middle East Spectator:
⭕ The Philippines’ immigration department has confirmed that Bondi shooter Sajid Akram entered the country using an Indian passport, while his son, Naveed Akram, entered as an Australian national

Australian police are still investigating why the duo travelled to Davao, Philippines a month before carrying out the attack at Bondi.

After the shooting, improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and two homemade ISIS flags were found in the perpetrators’ vehicle, with one of them draped over its windscreen.
[(1) Phillipines is an Anglo-Zionazi satrapy FOB. (2) Davao is in southernmost tip, where they’ve been incubating salafis for generations. This was a soldier prepped for a kamikaze mission]

It’s good that China says that, this means Iran can ignore the crap about Taiwan and not get involved. The Iranian islands are under Iranian control, Iran doesn’t need anybody’s support.
— Barmak (@barmakshem) December 16, 2025

China’s making same mistakes as Russia vis-a-vis the GCC snakes within the BRICS tent. Sad. Both are rapidly entering into lose-lose scenarios with those who count in the entire region. This is why the Moshiach’s West has lasted 500 years – consummate divide and rule. They tend to snatch victories even from lost wars….

💠 @ejmalrai:
⭕ Israel violated the ceasefire in Gaza 813 times. benjamin netanyahu, an ICC fugitive accused of war crimes, considers any ceasefire agreement as a green light for him to kill any person and guarantee the other side won’t respond.
[not to worry. The price will be taken from zionazis who still foolishly remain in West Asia. And permanent loss of influence of the demented west. This bitter period appears taken to expose the salafis, hypocrites, and foolish compradores, who willingly and openly cede the entire region and honor to demonic scum. And this when 90%+ of their own peoples hated both Zion and the West for the ritual in Gaza… one cannot reason with comatose sunnis, except through this period of humiliation. What can one say to those who revel in being slaves, and exterminated all the while????? A change of elites comes..]
⭕ Rather than integrating Ukraine into a post-war European security order, the EU plan institutionalises Ukraine as a frontline security asset, not a normalised state. The EU want Ukraine to become a permanently militarised society.

there’s a glitch in the Matrix?

It was Truman in the Oval Office during the nuclear terrorism events.. and it is doubtful that this unimaginative penpusher lost sleep over it. In fact, iirc in one account he boasted about it, and wagged it at Stalin during their last conference.. and it fits with his masonic and zionazi background..

Secretary of the Navy Knox was indeed a FDR confidant, and also died long before Hiroshima or indeed even Test 1. Neither he nor FDR could have discussed Hiroshima, save in advanced hell

NB. The first Secretary of War was also named Knox.. and the looted gold vaults in TX.. an interesting name

The UN says 1.3 million Palestinians urgently need shelter, and tents, tarps, and basic materials for all of them have were pre-positioned for entry just outside Gaza’s borders two months ago. But Israel is deliberately blocking any of it from entering for a third straight… https://t.co/p6vHeLpcev pic.twitter.com/ofSWSFVKW5
— Drop Site (@DropSiteNews) December 15, 2025

Israel’s Mental Health Crisis explodes. @TVFreePalestine
#israel #Reason2Resist #mensmentalhealth pic.twitter.com/bfJaRacyVb
— Dimitri Lascaris (@dimitrilascaris) December 16, 2025

They’re all useful idiots, used up in the process. The entire west has become a used condom to the Moshiach. None are as tormented and cursed than the children of the Moshiach; their power trip is a one way trip, even in this dimension

and reportedly, memory-holed by Googlehttps://t.co/4tGk2xbo6s
— gnivler (@gnivler) December 15, 2025

Arr, shiver me timbers, mate! Yer not based in the free port of Khadjibey are ye? She’s bin gittin a proper canoning by der Sheriff. Tis said, Dead Men Tell No Tales.

Scallywag Borzzikman:
“So, starting on December 5, Russia began launching massive missile strikes on the Odessa region every day. It is noteworthy that these missile attacks are still ongoing. Over the past 10 days, Russia has launched hundreds of Iskander-M ballistic missiles and dozens of Kinzhal hypersonic missiles at the Odessa region. As for the Geranium kamikaze drones, their number has reached 1,000 units. Thus, it became the most massive missile attack on the Odessa region since February 2022”

💠 @Middle East Spectator:
⭕ Hong Kong billionaire and dissident Jimmy Lai has been found guilty of violating Hong Kong’s national security law for colluding with foreign forces and now faces life in prison

During the 2019-2020 protests against the national security law, Lai met with U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Vice President Mike Pence among other U.S officials to discuss the protests.
[Banksters and now Billionaires. They’re doing something right. Maybe we need to move to the Celestial Empire]

Sal is either under-informed or dissembling in his post below, and in other posts he has made in relation to the US seizure of the VLCC Skipper.

In the context of its definition of piracy, the United Nations Convention on the Law of… https://t.co/lMAoOQi7OT pic.twitter.com/cmFTfHeCHU
— Will Schryver (@imetatronink) December 13, 2025

🔻 wrex509: An act of war? Against who? It was an unflagged vessel and had no affiliation with a nation.
🔻 WS: You are ignorant of the topic at hand.

Flags of convenience do not confer upon a ship a “nationality”, nor do they have any relationship to the ownership of the ship, nor to the ownership of the cargo.

Nor does UNCLOS authorize the seizure of a ship without an FOC.

There are 5 specific reasons and in the case of SKIPPER it is Section D of Art 110 “the ship is without nationality”.

With regard to insurance, please show me that this ship has any insurance as it shows none since Dec 2022.

SKIPPER is the pirate in this scenario☠️🏴‍☠️🦜 pic.twitter.com/Ed2KQy3P5r
— Sal Mercogliano (WGOW Shipping) 🚢⚓🐪🚒🏴‍☠️ (@mercoglianos) December 14, 2025

🔻 WS: You’re still dissembling, Sal. Even the title of the section “Right of Visit” witnesses against you.

It DOES NOT authorize the seizure of a ship. It only authorizes a “VISIT” to the ship.

I cannot believe you are continuing to assert this falsehood.
🔻 Happy Sal: Will, as I have said now repeatedly, SKIPPER was a stateless ship, so therefore the U.S., along with any other nation had the right to visit (i.e. board) the ship.

The visit was not to deliver a Christmas fruit cake, but to ascertain the legal position of the ship, i.e. registry, insurance (which it did not have) and inspections under classification societies and IMO conventions.

Concurrently, there was a US federal arrest warrant for the ship. As such, once the ship was determined to be stateless, the U.S. ordered the ship and directed it to US waters where it will be adjucticated in a federal court – literally the opposite of piracy.

All SKIPPER needed was to be registered in a country and that would have protected the ship, assuming the registry did not give the U.S. authority to board it.
🔻 WS: Non sequitur. The Right to Visit is not under discussion. The right to SEIZE the ship is the question.
🔻 Happy Sal: The seizure will be adjusted in Federal Court.

It may prove to be erroneous, or it may be legal, that is what the Federal judge will determine.

Admiralty Law had been operating like this for centuries.
[“erroneous” – never illegal, or piracy.. “One Law for thee, One Law for me..” Until the means evaporate. And they’re evaporating]
🔻 WS: Yet another non sequitur.

You assert that UNCLOS 110(d) authorized the seizure of the ship. THIS IS FALSE.

The ship was illegally seized. US law has ZERO jurisdiction over a ship seized in international waters.

I am astounded that you continue to defend these falsehoods.
🔻 Happy Sal: So when Iran seized the Marshall Island-flagged Talara last month in international water and stole its cargo, is that illegal?
[LOL. Unbelievable. We’re talkin about the Pirates of the Caribbean, the Shining City on the Hill, Those who see Farther as they Stand Taller. Remember? Not some untermenschen oceans away… Sal is a metaphor for an entire paradigm, as the lies stink to heaven high, and all unravels]
🔻 WS: This is both a non sequitur and an evasion.

I fully acknowledge that any nation can seize a ship of any other nation — if it has the power to do so.

But it is not authorized by UNCLOS, so don’t pretend that is.
🔻 Happy Sal: You exactly right in the case of Iran that they lacked the legal standing to seize Talara as it was a properly registered ship.

However, SKIPPER, was not.

Hey, as much as I enjoy this banter, you are entitled to your opinion and you are not going to change.

Hopefully people reading this came away a little more informed.
[he keeps adding cute “Happy Hollidays” cartoons of reindeer with candles and glowing balls in their antlers, and other crap, which I omit to save our already wasted time]
🔻 cognitivedissonanceeverywhere: Yes they did. They were informed the US engages in piracy and that is now its foreign policy. What Iran felt it had to do in kind to this is a strawman.
🔻 Pirate Sal: I think you need to look up piracy as the ship that does not have a flag to fly, is usually the pirate.
🔻 WS: This is such a weak argument Sal. I’m embarrassed for you.

The Skipper is privately owned ship (with possible Russian connections) that was carrying Venezuelan crude to customers in west Asia.

It is commercial trade in the context of siege warfare. But it’s NOT “piracy”.
🔻 Pirate Sal: Possible Russian connections? 🤣🤣🤣

You are making the point here.

The ship lacks documentation and therefore is stateless.

You do realize, it if it had taken time to register the ship anywhere, I would be arguing against the US actions as they violate the Law of the Sea.
🔻 Intelschizo: Russian connections??? The vessel was connected to IRGC through a litany shell companies owned by a Ukrainian living in Switzerland whose business partners are a bunch of Iranians.
[this is the “seven ways from Sunday” cavalry coming now to Sorry Sal’s rescue. A most apt handle too.]
🔻 WS: There have been some claims that Viktor Sergiyovich Artemov, the alleged owner of the Skipper, also has connections to the so-called Russian “shadow fleet”.

I acknowledge his connections to the IRGC.

UNCLOS still does not authorize the seizing of the Skipper.
🔻 Intelschizo: Literally does. |link|
🔻 WS: This is irrelevant. If you had been paying attention, you would already know that.

The question is whether or not UNCLOS authorizes the seizure of unflagged ships. IT DOES NOT.
[God Bless Will. I bet police-doped bloodhounds experiencing drug withdrawal pains are less persistent..]
🔻 Intelschizo: It’s not irrelevant literally addresses both if the vessel had been properly registered and flagged and if the vessel was not registered, therefore not flagged. Saying that it’s wrong without actually providing anything in the language isn’t making your point. You keep screaming but the title of the chapter okay. And what does the text of the chapter in question say oh it says that you can do this.
🔻 WS: UNCLOS absolutely DOES NOT authorize the seizing of ships for any question of registration or flagging or insurance.

It authorizes nothing more than a “VISIT”.

If you believe otherwise, feel free to cite the relevant portions.

But I know you cannot, because they do not exist.
🔻 Intelschizo: It literally does

A stateless vessel is one not registered under the flag of any state as required by UNCLOS Article 91. It is well-accepted that stateless vessels are considered international pariahs and are open to law enforcement measures by all states to a greater degree than are flagged vessels.

Stateless vessels lose the protection normally afforded by flag state jurisdiction and become subject to the jurisdiction of any state that encounters them on the high seas.

Accordingly, under Article 110(1)(d) of UNCLOS, a warship may approach and board a vessel if there are reasonable grounds for suspecting it is without nationality.
However, the right to board and inspect a stateless vessel does not automatically confer the right to use force against it or its crew; rather, the convention focuses on the rights of approach, boarding, and inspection, with enforcement actions typically involving detention and delivery to appropriate authorities for prosecution as applicable.

Oh, and would you look at that? That’s exactly what we did. We boarded the vessel inspected. The vessel found that it was stateless and non-compliant and seized the vessel and is being delivered to the United States for legal proceedings.
🔻 WS: I rest my case. UNCLOS DOES NOT authorize the seizure of a ship for questions of registration, flagging, or insurance.

It authorizes only a “VISIT” to the ship. It goes no further.

You are misrepresenting what it says.

As I have already noted:

In the context of its definition of piracy, the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (to which the United States is NOT even a signatory) explicitly excludes “politically motivated acts”, which are proscribed under the Convention for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts Against the Safety of Maritime Navigation.

The 2005 Protocol to the SUA Convention reads, in part:

Among the unlawful acts covered by the SUA Convention in Article 3 are the seizure of ships by force … when the purpose of the act, by its nature or context, is to intimidate a population, or to compel a Government or an international organization to do or to abstain from any act.

In any case, the US can employ any pretext it likes to seize merchant ships on the open seas, but no other nation on earth will view it as anything but PIRACY. And, as such, it constitutes an Act of War, and will, sooner or later, evoke a reciprocal response from those against whom the unlawful acts have been committed, and those who choose to join with them to oppose such piracy.
🔻 Intelschizo: An act of war against who it’s a stateless vessel. But you know what, let’s say the registration’s valid okay, so it was an act of war against Guyana because that’s who the victim would be if it was properly flagged. Because the rules state that the use of force on a flagged vessel is a act of aggression against the flag state which is why there’s a thing called flag state consent to allow such actions to avoid a act of aggression.
🔻 WS: It is an act of war against both Venezuela and whatever country or countries were the intended recipients of the cargo.

UNCLOS DOES NOT authorize the seizure of ships for questions of registration, flagging, or insurance.

Period. End of story.
🔻 Intelschizo: It’s not an act of war against Cuba and Venezuela. The rules on this are quite clear. The use of force AKA seizure of the ship would be considered a act of force against the flag state not the recipient, not the shipper, the flag on which the vessel is registered under. In this case, if the paperwork had been done correctly would be Guyana.

Since the Skipper was stateless
1. There is no violated state.
2. There is no unlawful use of force.
3. There is no basis for a “war” claim. Even if Iran or Venezuela screams politically, they have no legal standing under UNCLOS.
4. No UNCLOS or UN Charter violations.
[btw, the prophets & scripture described Liars of this scale. On Judgment Day, their mouths will be sealed. Their own hands, legs and other organs will testify against them]
🔻 WS: Non sequitur.

I have seen no evidence the ship ever went to Cuba, although it does not matter if it did. It was carrying Venezuelan crude, apparently destined for Iran.

It was not registered or flagged or insured according to US imperial edicts. But UNCLOS DOES NOT authorize the seizing of the ship for these reasons.

The seizing of the ship was an act of piracy, and will be considered as such by every nation not subservient to the US empire.
🔻 Intelschizo: It wasn’t going to Iran. It had blended Iranian crude off the coast of Jose terminal like it is done for years.
🔻 WS: Perhaps you are correct on this point. I will not dispute it. But it is irrelevant to my rather narrow argument:

UNCLOS DOES NOT AUTHORIZE THE SEIZING OF A SHIP FOR QUESTIONS OF REGISTRATION, FLAGGING, OR INSURANCE.

Those arguing otherwise are 100% wrong.
🔻 Intelschizo: This is coming from a person who just spent nearly 2 weeks talking about how the boat strike on September 2nd was illegal because it was and I went into great detail on how that was the case, the seizure of the Skipper is completely legal.
🔻 WS: You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Cite the language from UNCLOS that authorizes the seizure of a ship on the basis of unrecognized registration, flagging, or insurance.

I’ll be waiting right here …
🔻 Intelschizo: You haven’t cited any language yourself. Do you just keep screaming the title of article 110 is called right to board, therefore the entire rest of the verbiage is nullified. Also going to ignore legal precedence and I’m going to ignore the rest of the treaty that literally spells out that stateless vessels are not provided the protection of flagged vessels. And would you look at that? Legal proceedings can be commenced against stateless vessels of the jurisdiction of the warship that is conducting the boarding.
🔻 WS: I have indeed cited the relevant language. You simply have not been paying attention.

THERE IS NO LANGUAGE IN UNCLOS THAT AUTHORIZES THE SEIZING OF SHIPS FOR ANY QUESTIONS OF REGISTRATION, FLAGGING, OR INSURANCE.

All you guys who are arguing otherwise are either misinformed or outright lying.
🔻 Intelschizo: What do you think? The whole right to board and inspect the vessel is it’s literally to say give me your license and registration sir. Oh, while I’m at it, I’m going to check your cargo hold. Oh what’s this? Your paperwork is expired. It’s fraudulent and we found that your cargo manifest is not correlate to what we see in your holds. You’re under arrest
🔻 WS: There is no language in UNCLOS authorizing seizure of the ship, or arresting the crew. It does not exist. You are either misinformed or outright lying if you claim otherwise.
🔻 Sorry Sal: What rights do a stateless ship have in international waters?

If you are saying that the US cannot seize SKIPPER, what laws were broken by the U.S.?

I’ll be decorating my tree in the meantime.
🔻 WS: You are being deliberately obtuse now.

The only issue under discussion is the incontrovertible fact that UNCLOS DOES NOT authorize ANY nation, including the US, to seize a ship on the basis of registration, flagging, or insurance.
🔻 Sorry Sal: UNCLOS is the Law of the Sea accepted by 169 nations and the EU.

Are you saying that they all agree that stateless ships can freely sail the world’s oceans and there is no provision by which they can be boarded and arrested.

Sounds like you are in favor of an outlaw ocean.
🔻 WS: My favor is irrelevant.

In any case, IT IS AN OUTLAW OCEAN. That is beyond dispute.

And the United States of America is, and has been for many decades, the single greatest outlaw.
🔻 Despondent Sal: Will, I am not going to change your opinion and I am not changing mine.
🔻 WS: Mine is not an opinion. It is an objective fact.

And you, sadly, have devolved into a shameless #EmpirePropagandist, willing to voluntarily shill for a rapidly declining predatory empire.

The Founding Fathers would be aghast at what has happened to their project.
🔻 Intelschizo: The founders seized over 2,000 British ships during the revolutionary war
🔻 WS: Is the US currently at war?

Because, of course, war alters all the provisions of UNCLOS when it comes to seizing ships.
🔻 Ahistorical Sal: They also were guilty of smuggling in violation of Britain’s mercantilism rules (i.e. John Hancock) and attacking and seizing ships like Gaspee in 1772.
🔻 WS: There was no United States of America in 1772.
🔻 V*: My question is how can USA use a Law (Act 110 of UNCLO) that they neither have ratified nor subscribed to?

That’s a bit rich isn’t it? I’ll waive around a warrant citing this law when it’s convenient for me, but outright reject the entire legal body at all other times. 🤷🏼‍♀️
🔻 WS: “International law” is little more than a rhetorical device.
🔻 Gunny: Hoist the Colors!!!! |link|
[God preserve Gunny. The most direct! Cuts through all the pretense. Like the Elizabethan era…]
🔻 George Pereira (Master of vessels retired): Treaties that are not ratified can be enforced in the countries that accept them. The USA can bring the ship to justice in any of those countries. However, there is no need to do that because of the warrant. The ship is a civil liability.
🔻 WS: Please try to keep up. UNCLOS absolutely DOES NOT authorize the seizing of ships for unrecognized registration, flagging, or insurance.
🔻 Modsognir: Sal has always been a little US supremacist.
🔻 WS: That is not a sin, per se. What IS a sin is his deliberate deception of his audience, and his pretentions to imagined authority.

And no matter how many times he boldly asserts the contrary, UNCLOS still does NOT authorize the seizure of “unflagged” ships in international waters.
🔻 Modsognir: It’s what causes him to behave the way he does 🤷

Won’t complain too much though, it also causes him to poison any efforts of the US to actually try and build ships for real.
🔻 occasional ignoramus: Court order for the warrant, filed under seal, to be released with redactions
“On November 26, 2025, the Court authorized the government’s application to seize the MT Skipper in international waters pursuant to established legal authority.” |link|
🔻 WS: US law has no legal jurisdiction over ships on the high seas.

That said, they may assert whatever right they can, for as long as they can. But it may not be much longer.

“International law” is a meaningless rhetorical device.
[you bet. Especially when demonspawn savages sin qua non behind Gaza and Novorossiya and every holocaust since the Descent of Men presume themselves the rightful Supermensch to set the standards and to enforce them. Thankfully, this shall not stand for much longer]
🔻 Bikkin: Mr Schryver, apparently you’re arguing with a shill here.
UNCLOS at best gives the right to board the ship.
Unilateral USAn sanctions, federal court orders etc. are IRRELEVANT on the high seas.
SKIPPER may have been commandeered lawfully according to USAn law ONLY.
🔻 Oof: The Law of the Jungle is the higher authority here. Might makes right.
🔻 He was a bushranger driven by injustice: International rules based order is a veneer, wallpaper, and facade over the exercise of power by one country against its enemy’s.
🔻 Brandon Brown: The seizure warrant was authorized pursuant to 18 U.S.C. §§ 981, 982, 2332b(g)(5), and 2339B(a)(1), which authorizes the seizure of “[a]ll assets, foreign or domestic … of any individual, entity, or organization engaged in planning or perpetrating any Federal crime of terrorism (as defined in 18 U.S.C. § 2332b(g)(5)) against the United States, citizens or residents of the United States, or their property, and all assets, foreign or domestic, affording any person a source of influence over any such entity or organization.”
🔻 WS: A false pretext, of course. And irrelevant to the discussion of whether or not UNCLOS authorizes the seizure of ships on the high seas. IT DOES NOT.
🔻 __ROTE__: It’s the narco-terrorism cover story, conflated with classic neoliberalism- anyone who trades cheap energy for food or medical supplies must be a terrorist threat to NY brokers and Fed banksters.
🔻 cognitivedissonanceeverywhere: He’s just desperately making any shit up he can think of, like this administration. The ‘rules based order’ in action.
🔻 Sulking Sal: Did I make up UNCLOS and the arrest warrant issued by a federal court against a stateless ship?
🔻 WS: No, you asserted an UNCLOS authority that DOES NOT EXIST.

A warrant issued by a US court is irrelevant. US jurisdiction in this case is de facto, not de jure.

The US has seized the ship.

They may confiscate both ship and cargo.

But none of that has anything to do with UNCLOS.
🔻 Runaway Warming: Was this tanker really stateless? Or is that another one of sals tricks?
🔻 WS: All ships flying “flags of convenience” are as “stateless” as the Skipper.

It’s all a big charade.

The majority of commercial shipping is flagged in Panama, Liberia, and the Marshall Islands.
🔻 Brihard: Worth noting that the US has neither signed nor ratified UNCLOS, so it’s tough to argue that they can explicitly rely on its authority. Now, US could fairy argue that those parts of UNCLOS are also recognized & binding customary international law- do you know if they’re done so?
🔻 Maggie Leber: Neither has Venezuela.
🔻 Brihard: Yes but given that it wasn’t their ship or in their waters that’s immaterial. The onus is on the seizing person to articulate a legal grounds to board, inspect, and seize. I’m trying to understand what that legal authority is.
🔻 WS: I do not dispute that the US, according to UNCLOS 110, was permitted to “VISIT” the ship.

But UNCLOS absolutely, positively, DOES NOT authorize the seizure of a ship for any questions of registration, flagging, or insurance. Those arguing otherwise are just plain wrong.