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January 7, 2025 at 07:53 #49704
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January 7, 2025 at 09:48 #49709
cronetoo
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January 7, 2025 at 10:23 #49711
AHH
KeymasterThis comment says,
🔻ted richard:
“trumps remarks about greenland, canada even mexico are typical of an empire in retreat, being pushed out all over the world. no longer able to project military power that intimidates ….. exposed as having weaponry 2nd rate if not overtly obsolete what trumps remarks testify towards is american elites understanding the rest of the world is lost or being lost to theri control so the near abroad must be secured now if the usa is to stand any chance of remaining a global power as the brics nations rapidly develop. this will requires resources or access to them the usa does snot now have in its cupboard………..greenland, canada amply fit that bill of resource needs and location opportunties which will be critical for the usa in 10-20 years time.as american hegemonyand manufacturing competitviness dies it is being compelled to ignore others sovereignty and national borders in a desperate effort to secure its portion of the world and the resources it needs and will continue to need as the multipolar world takes form.
i would argue greenland and canada are far more important to the usa’s future than nato or Europe”
Will Schryver’s said as much.
I think the thrust of both is correct.. the minting of the Amero, and many informal and formal trade relations for decades anticipated the coming merger — thought at the time due to formally incorporating the “near abroad” and proudly displaying the Empire openly to the world..But “there’s many a slip ‘twixt the cup and the lip.”
Both are citizens of the doomed nation – and which, even the bravest, can fully stare in the face of the horrors to come???I suspect the resistance to this predictable gambit will not come from the targeted territories’ elites, or even majority befuddled population – but the sea of enemies worldwide.
The permanent peace, and end of satanic “Forever Wars” demands it. Just as Russkies currently forbid talk of ceasefires, focusing on permanent peace and indivisible security for all. They are left no option, but dismantlement of nazi empires and their power projection.
So they shall be granted no respite to rest, rebuild and resend the next Drangs.
What makes the criminals think they can torch Afro-Asia and calmly retreat in peace to still play Barron of a sandheap? And continue the divide et impera game ad nauseam??
Additionally, and not least, there are long, very long, Iron Ledgers. Indemnities need to be paid. Versailles and what was done to the Germans in the first act shall seem an appetizer given what comes to the terminal Anglo-Saxons. And they lack the gold, or even sufficient land to pay the trillions due… so the public demotion, without even pretense to continue playing “major power” is assuredly on the menu. Very evil days ahead for the evil demented — every which way, and compounding every single day
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January 7, 2025 at 10:56 #49722
cronetoo
ParticipantAHH,
Thanks for opening the comment … and for your response …
(I am unable to cut and paste on my laptop at the moment … need my cursor, which has disappeared! )
Another poster quotes Dmitry Orlov on Trump’s proposed ‘annexation’ …
“It’s not possible to eat the same slice of pizza twice. Canada and Greenland are already perfectly well ingested and who owns Panama Canal is an organizational issue and barely even an economic one. The Ukraine would have been a new colonial acquisition and a new pool of collateral to borrow against. Alas, that collateral is now gone and the US debt pyramid just had some blocks knocked out at the bottom.”
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January 7, 2025 at 12:49 #49734
cronetoo
ParticipantUS Data Center – what are they and why are they needed?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-announces-20-billion-foreign-investment-us-data-centers
In other news …he’s going to rename the ‘Gulf of Mexico’… the ‘Gulf of America’
Heck …go whole hog – name it the ‘Gulf of Trump’ …
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/narcissist
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January 8, 2025 at 05:28 #49769
Mr P
ParticipantThe Origins of America’s Secret Police: Ancient Roots of Occult Societies & Intelligence Operations
(The “vigilantes” in the Gold Rush (California zone) were Masonic irregular militia, according to a rare copy in the CSUS library…(Vigilante Days and Ways), iirc…and I have a family story of the Kansas Masonic vigilantes threatening a great grandfather on his farm in the period of the Great War, and some post W2 Red Hunt tales I’ll keep to myself.)
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January 8, 2025 at 05:55 #49771
Mr P
ParticipantSpeaking of clubs and their secrets… 😉
On the Trail of the Assassins: One Man’s Quest to Solve the Murder of President Kennedy
innarrestin’ fragment…generally advance knowledge combined with furtive action spells suspect confederate, and sometimes perpetrator… 😉
“Five days before the assassination the New Orleans F.B.I. office
received a telexed warning that an attempt would be made to assassinate
the President in Dallas at the end of the week. The Bureau did not pass
on the warning to the Secret Service or other authorities. Shortly after
the assassination, the telex message was removed from the file drawer
of the New Orleans office of the Bureau.”Withal, a nice read…
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January 8, 2025 at 08:32 #49784
Mr P
ParticipantPravda says Odessa is on the list…Transdniestria rescue…
“The Russian Federation mentally becomes the Soviet Union, showing military strength. And what is being done within the framework of the former USSR is not a violation of international law for Trump. This is recognized as an internal matter of the former USSR. Moreover, the Warsaw Pact countries, according to Trump’s logic — are also Russia’s business, as a former zone of its influence and security. That is why such a howl is heard from the Baltic countries and Poland. They have a premonition of returning to the Russian Empire, if the American Empire has the right to live.”
https://www.pravda.ru/world/2158365-transnistria-gaz/
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Interesting view, self-determination and Trump…seems to create the same for Russia.
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January 8, 2025 at 11:21 #49790
emersonreturn
Participantcarl zha
China’s 6th generation fighterWhat We Know – youtube
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January 8, 2025 at 13:13 #49793
Mr P
ParticipantTrump Shock; Fortress America, Greenland, No Ukraine NATO; Europe Shock; Iran Strike Coming – Alex the Elder. The US gives up attempt to dominate the globe, retreats to neoclassical great power competition. Mexico, Panama, Greenland, Canada…Note the Pravda article previously posted. #49784 Also “Iran strike” on the way.
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January 8, 2025 at 15:20 #49807
cronetoo
ParticipantIt turns out the LA Fire Dept. donated some of its equipment to Ukraine.
And now they can’t handle the fires.
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January 8, 2025 at 22:35 #49828
emersonreturn
Participantthank you, cronetoo,
not entirely a surprise. unfortunately it’s an irony that will elude most of the stricken. my step-kids have lost their homes but they’ve escaped safe & unharmed.
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January 8, 2025 at 15:23 #49808
Mr P
ParticipantGood for a chuckle, see Background to Danger (1943) George Raft…just the first 3 minutes… 😉
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January 8, 2025 at 15:27 #49809
Mr P
ParticipantSatire…I guess.

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January 8, 2025 at 16:57 #49814
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January 8, 2025 at 19:28 #49825
Mr P
ParticipantThe George Raft film is a fine example of Hollywood’s pro-soviet propaganda of 1943. (see my above post)
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This from RT DE Time of Heros> “Zeit der Helden” – Die Erneuerung der russischen Elite hat begonnen — https://de.rt.com/europa/232029-kriegshelden-ebnen-weg-zur-russischen-elite/
“Russian President Vladimir Putin has announced a year ago, in February of last year, in his speech before the Federal Assembly of the Start of the special personnel and training programme “time of heroes”, for the ex-1. March 2024 apply could. It should help the participants of the special military operation (SWO) with the necessary skills to achieve leadership positions in state-owned enterprises and state administration.”
Just a taste of Soviet wisdom…able fellas worthy of trust…
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January 8, 2025 at 19:39 #49826
Mr P
ParticipantIran Deploys 800 km Over-the-Horizon Radar in Northwest Capable of Detecting US RQ-4 Global Hawk
“According to Islamic World News, on January 7, 2024, Iran operationalized an advanced over-the-horizon (OTH) radar system, named Nazir, in the highlands of Gilan province, located in the northwest of the country. This radar significantly enhances Iran’s integrated air defense network, providing a detection range of up to 800 kilometers. The deployment is strategically positioned to monitor northern Iranian airspace while extending coverage to key regional areas, consolidating its surveillance capabilities against potential aerial threats.”
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January 9, 2025 at 04:49 #49833
Mr P
ParticipantMedley report: Israel’s rising threat, Ukraine revelations, and the ‘Age of Anti-Westphalian DarkMaga’
Innarrestin’ ideas…
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SoCal fires… Her mayorship is silent…Sky News on X: “‘Do you owe citizens an apology for being absent whilst their homes were burning? Do you regret cutting the fire department’s budget? @skydavidblevins questions the mayor of LA, Karen Bass, as she faces backlash regarding the California wildfires.
https://x.com/SkyNews/status/1877115173443400065
an irregular volunteer, I fought the Malibu fire in 1970…even the ice plants at the beach burned…one may cope, save a structure here and there…but that’s about it. Generally the old structure are old because previous fires have skipped over them, and these tend to be skipped again. This one’s worse.
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Remarking that the Orange fella is doing what retreat of empire does… admit failure and try to re-group. I doubt he’ll have complete success, his “base support” seems shaky to me…they wanted the Constitution back, especially the Bill of Rights…instead they get dilution and ukase. He may get the turf, and lose his base.
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January 9, 2025 at 04:53 #49835
Mr P
Participant4 1/2 hours of SoCal fire… somewhat sensational and lurid.
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January 9, 2025 at 08:49 #49853
AHH
KeymasterIt is bizarre how an entire stretch of prime coastal and “exceptional” territory is permitted to burn down. Seems more than the usual mafia “land redevelopment.”
Surely even the 0.01% cannot screw the 1% this openly and viciously, or can they?
We know most fires in California are as accidental as head shootings of Palestinian children.
Is it a wider threat to those of upper middle class being downgraded west-wide? What gives
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January 9, 2025 at 09:24 #49854
Mr P
ParticipantOn the river I knew an arson investigator fella who used to say that about half of the fires were arson. He may have been right. In this case I note factors of evident lack of preparation, scale is overwhelming, and dry winds…quite possibly also arson in more than one place (I have witnessed an arson being set by teenaged kids, once), and the generally less prosperous population with increased density. The fires we see in SoCal seem to me normal seasonal periodic fires…in those hills, where I have hiked trails, the brush is such that it’s easier to crawl under than walk, and they’re bone dry, and very steep & rugged. I lived in Coral Canyon in 1970, I saved one of 12 puppies, and my motorcycle (in a fresh-ploughed field) – and then joined an old fella saving his already ablaze house. The County fire department truck and its crew loaned us, unwillingly, a 1 1/4″ hose and we had hydrant pressure. They simply watched us. We were a little upset about that. Once a fire-storm get’s going the fire leapfrogs miles ahead, you can get in a real jam with fire in front and in back. At school we had a student volunteer fire brigade, tanker built on a Studebaker buss frame with a packard V8, and an auxiliary pumper-trailer. I was an engineer assigned to the auxiliary pumper. We had fire drills with real fires and also smoke flares. At night! Anyway, I had a little experience, and that helped at Malibu. imho the County was unprepared, they could have done far better. Remarking that lack of hydrant water is an indication of unprepared condition. Further, near the sea there could be seawater pumps, as in ‘Frisco, that can feed the hydrants. These do not exist. SoCal is essentially a nest of rackets, and has been since the Europeans came. The big fellas are already calculating their realestate swindles…bet on it.
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January 9, 2025 at 08:24 #49851
cronetoo
ParticipantI highly recommend Larry Johnson’s piece today
https://sonar21.com/putting-us-aid-to-ukraine-in-perspective/
along with the comment section …
there’s a lot of info there …
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January 9, 2025 at 08:46 #49852
cronetoo
ParticipantMy apologies … my post is meant as a reply to Mr. P’s post above … as it is related to California fires.
… and I just found this … from Maria
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January 9, 2025 at 09:39 #49855
Mr P
ParticipantReading Larry and Maria… Thanks!
Remarking that the County and the history too provides a clear lesson that it’s a nest of crooks running rackets, speculations, and frauds…County and Cities don’t have the slightest regard for anybody else. The fire department, LA City…well, I have a few stories from a now gone relative who retired from the LAFD… 😉 “Past the level of actual fireman and engineer” it was all politics…not ability.
There’s no excuse for not having seawater uptakes. Or empty tanks… except corruption and greed.
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January 9, 2025 at 10:35 #49857
cronetoo
ParticipantCorruption and greed seem to be everywhere in US … not just D.C.
… and I’m shocked, no disappointed, though I shouldn’t be … at the number of American commenters who think it would be a great idea to “purloin” Greenland, even Canada.
Should be no surprise though, considering the support Americans gave to Ukraine in 2022 when Russia began its SMO …
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January 9, 2025 at 11:02 #49858
Mr P
ParticipantWe may remember that George Washington was a surveyor as well as a destroyer of (Indian) towns…which is to say a speculator in realestate , and slaves. Very typical, destroy the owners and steal or invent title, survey, subdivide, shill up the “value” and sell. Then move on… And that the buffalo were exterminated to force the Indians to vacate, and the railroads were “granted” vast (stolen) lands, which were then exploited in land speculation. And recall that the industrial growth, the steel and machines, were based on exploitation of both the looted lands and the immigrant peoples…it’s been largely a racket from the Mayflower on…which then may be seen to dovetail to the land grabs the Orange fella, himself a realestate “speculator”, proposes. Now then, I object to the term “ponzi racket”, as Ponzi copied it from another. see> (the ostensibly fictional) The Financier : Theodore Dreiser : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive https://archive.org/details/financier_1109_librivox
Dreiser used to be in the canon…alas, gone like the breeze. His Financier may be artfully fictional, but I assure you it’s accurate so far as I know.
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January 9, 2025 at 13:07 #49872
emersonreturn
Participantempire’s FIRE gambit (financial insurance real estate) must be nearing its breaking point? point no point.
the fires in LA have to be touching a trillion, but the entire world has suffered beyond reckoning: hurricanes & typhoons, fires floods, droughts & crop failures, maritime shipping must be a freakin nightmare, never mind boeing, all in all the claims must be overflowing their barricades & safety nets. put upon actuaries have to be bald from pulling out hair, lucky for them tel aviv’s not covered, or ukraine, good thing blackrock didn’t bother being in house & all.
it’s possible the insurance gambit will shut down. i expect a spokesperson looking a bit like blinken when he’s being interviewed will explain to the world that the idea of insurance was a really bad idea in the first place & that the whole scam was a crazy communist idea to destroy democracy—& that insurance is not in any way related to capitalism. in a patronizing imperial voice, he’ll tell us that it’s time people learn to take care of themselves. the fact is that there are no safety nets, not in democracy & that for the sake of democracy & freedom the government has done what’s right & shut down the entire scam, prosecutions are about to be made.
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January 9, 2025 at 17:29 #49882
Mr P
ParticipantGood story> The Year of the Jackpot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Year_of_the_Jackpot
Not simply human affairs, but the geomagnetic shift, and weakening of the field brings the aurora to the equator…earthquakes, eruptions, storm track changes, the end of a cycle…actually a whole lotta cycles.
iirc insurance is an invention of the Chinese merchants, having to do with rapids and rafts and agreeing to distribute their goods such that the loss of a river raft was a loss or a cost shared by all. a cooperative invention. Otherwise one by one the merchants would be ruined, and then one merchant would run all the rafts as a monopoly… so in a sense that sort of insurance was anti-capitalist and if not communist, at least communal.
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January 10, 2025 at 10:17 #49900
AHH
Keymaster
Goodness, LA is undergoing a ritual, like Maui or Gaza. According to the satanic secret society script, we’re in “the cry later” phase. Reverse smiley face. Interestingly, the first (“happy”) phase with Covid-19 BEGAN on winter solstice in China; will it END this coming summer solstice in China as well?? That must require particularly energetic chaos-stirring by incoming Orange Camacho, as the time is short-
January 10, 2025 at 11:50 #49910
emersonreturn
ParticipantWS has the right of it. murikans wouldn’t endorse a war with iran, even the dumbest, even those that still believing dumpster is a peace candidate…but this is the pearl harbour event empire was searching for. “…& it’s one two three what are we fightin for? don’t ask me i don’t give a damn, next stop is Tehran & five six seven open up the pearly gates, there ain’t no time to wonder why, Whoopee, we all gonna die!”
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January 10, 2025 at 12:27 #49914
emersonreturn
Participant…continued:
when i was last in the palisades i saw these “persians” being taught military tactics. i asked the parents WTF? & was told, they were hoping when dumpster got elected to go into iran & help return the shah. i rolled my eyes, & thought—are you kidding? dumpster is not going to keep his word & help you bring back the shah!
last night on the LA news they arrested a nut case for starting the fire. he looked middle eastern & he was screaming like a nutter might & the police were not listening, the announcer was saying the guy had outstanding charges & everyone agreed that wasn’t a surprise. end of story.
well i’ve just remembered the young boys being trained to return the shah. & it occurred to me—O dear God. they are going to iranians. these poor kids & their parents have been used & abused.
o/c this could be a co-incidence. & my imagination has completely misfired.
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January 10, 2025 at 10:47 #49903
Sudhi
ParticipantLatest article by Big Serge:
Total Kievan Debellation
The Russo-Ukrainian War: Year 3
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/total-kievan-debellation?utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
… “In short, Ukraine is on the path to debellation – defeat through the total exhaustion of its capacity to resist. They are not exactly out of men and vehicles and missiles, but these lines are all pointing downward… -
January 10, 2025 at 15:46 #49930
cronetoo
ParticipantFirst few minutes devoted to expose of CIA use of MK Ultra ‘mind control’ released 12/23/24
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January 10, 2025 at 16:00 #49931
emersonreturn
Participantthank you, cronetoo.
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January 10, 2025 at 18:53 #49939
emersonreturn
Participantalastair crooke
strategic culture
(carter & brzezinski’s impact on today)
Can Trump Save America from itself?
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January 11, 2025 at 05:14 #49946
Mr P
ParticipantDope R US? Yewbetcha! Germs too! What’s that smell?
“CIA Behavior Control Experiments Focus of New Scholarly Collection
Use of LSD
National Security Archive Publishes Key Records on Infamous MKULTRA Program
Agency Sought Drugs and Behavior Control Techniques to Use in “Special Interrogations” and Offensive Operations
Sidney Gottlieb’s CIA Personnel File, 1983 Deposition Testimony, Among Newly Available Documents”List of Collections – Digital National Security Archive (DNSA) – LibGuides at ProQuest
https://proquest.libguides.com/dnsa/collectionlist
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Country Joe > Country Joe and the Fish-Not-So-Sweet Martha Lorraine 1967
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January 11, 2025 at 05:40 #49948
Mr P
ParticipantRay mentions the documents on mind-control & dope use by cia since 1950… Hey? Did you feel that 😉
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January 11, 2025 at 06:44 #49952
Mr P
ParticipantBeware of the bias of class affiliation. Nevertheless, innarrestin’ topics, and Oliver and Peter are sincere…and smart fellas.
America’s proxy war with Russia isn’t anything new. It’s been decades in the making. Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick explain what nuclear war would actually look like. (0:00) How Close Are We to Nuclear War? (12:08) Why Don’t We Know All the Details of 9/11? (25:23) The Nuclear War Chain Reaction (33:29) Warcrimes in Serbia? (37:05) Why Hollywood Exiled Oliver Stone (40:33) The Economic War Between the US and Russia (50:11) Is There Hope for Hollywood? (57:37) The Rapid Advance of Nuclear Weapon Technology (1:12:02) The Shadowy Acts of NATO (1:17:07) The Origins of War Profiteering (1:26:01) How the Democrat Party Became the Party of War (1:32:50) How History Is Rewritten
https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1877777957978321139
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January 11, 2025 at 10:47 #49958
cronetoo
ParticipantMax interviews Patrick Henningsen on Elon Musk
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January 11, 2025 at 11:29 #49961
cronetoo
ParticipantChina releases ‘world most powerful’ weapon design software: 15x faster than US
https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-releases-world-most-powerful-213431434.html
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January 11, 2025 at 17:47 #49964
Mr P
ParticipantThis old broadcast has introduction by E .R. Murrow…
His brief review of the History is an example of the distorted myth many believed, and believe to-day, note no mention of Ethiopia or Spain “20 years of Peace” he says! But the tensions were real enough in the public mind being prepared for WW2 and US “involvement”… Speaking of tension, what about the UFO scare on the East Coast? Sound familiar? UFO’s then, UFO now? Big coincidence. Anyway, it runs almost an hour, fwiw I remember watching this on TV…
Studio One The Night America Trembled (1957) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
https://archive.org/details/studio-one-the-night-america-trembled-1957_202401
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January 11, 2025 at 18:26 #49965
emersonreturn
Participantpeter on smoothie’s greenland thread, asked: if greenland’s for sale, there are probably other interested buyers.
lol
russia, should denmark ask russia for assistance, might suggest greenland seek membership in briiics.
if not russia, then china seems like a natural fit? but should china decline buying, perhaps china could counsel greenland that she needn’t hurry & take the first goofy romeo but consider following djibouti’s equal opportunity idea & host a string of happy suitors.
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January 11, 2025 at 23:00 #49969
AHH
Keymaster‘This land is your land, and this land is my land
From California to the New York island
From the Redwood Forest to the Gulf Stream waters
This land was made for you and me’Among my earliest memories as a child was being forced to learn “this land is my land.” I disliked being forced, as not a singer, but loved this memorable ballad. Apparently it is the eulogy sin qua non for America itself, the fable, within Oz, as the Parasite shedded the Old Host.
There is neither space nor need whatsoever for the West, in the reduced world of Pax Judaica. The Moshiach is not sentimental. However, services rendered fully are remembered.. never had mankind been so comprehensively “controlled” — enslaved without the formal title of slavery by an Empire that did not declare itself one.
The New York islands on the East Coast featured in Escape from New York (1981), messaging the 911 foundational lie of this century which began the big clock. The Redwood Forests on the opposite coast of the former continental power featured in Escape from LA (1996), the ongoing horror in LA, coming on the heels of the covid and vaxx biowar, which bracket the dual ritual of the Moshiach. The GWOT and COVID-19. The complete demolition of USUK soft and hard power, culminating in the end of the petrodollar.

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January 11, 2025 at 23:11 #49970
cronetoo
Participantiirc… the Warburg family is in top tier of the Cabal …
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January 12, 2025 at 00:46 #49971
AHH
KeymasterYes, iirc, his father helped create the US FED. They’re among the Cabal.
I keep coming back to this quote for several reasons. It was said openly in mid-1940s at a Senate hearing .. so recorded on the public Congressional record! And it was said at a point similar to 1991, when the world lay at their feet like an oyster. And they’ve been on a historic rampage ever since, with the US assuming standard bearer for the combined western assault on mankind.
I also keep coming back to it because these Banksters are near the top of the Moshiach’s system. They served intent on demolishing the West. Who stood to lose the most wealth, liberties, and rights in a NWO gulag?? Which civilization would fall the furthest in the planned worldwide leveling?
The first and foremost target was always the West, being willfully suicided like UkroNazis against their Russkie cousins. So the blowback of all the Forever Wars, global great poisoning, inflation and fiat depreciation, sterilization and eugenics, “de-culturization,” stripping of spirituality, etc etc — were not accidental. Like mandating a “vaccine” for a created pathogen, they were often the central feature.
The certain nature of karmic divine law used most creatively!
As the saying of smart sleuths goes — “follow the money for the crime”, or in this proud naked moment, the candid Bankster
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January 12, 2025 at 08:37 #50004
cronetoo
ParticipantUkraine begins Hitler’s Education Reforms for Slaves
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January 12, 2025 at 11:07 #50015
emersonreturn
Participantvery useful archive of china’s defense by godfree roberts:
49 – chinese defense in 2024 by godfree roberts
https://substack.com/home/post/p-154132357
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January 12, 2025 at 11:45 #50018
emersonreturn
Participantre: china’s J-36
The secondary and tertiary effects of recent unveilings
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January 12, 2025 at 12:24 #50021
emersonreturn
Participantcarl zha discusses indonesia joining briiics
Indonesia joins Brics as Full Member – youtube
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January 12, 2025 at 14:24 #50029
emersonreturn
Participantthank you dear cronetoo. i hope you have recovered & are well. yes, i’m committed, i move in a year. i’ve a few issues & then i’m in nica, applying for citizenship. i’ll be watching up close the orange devil kick up dust devils in venezuela, panama, nica, cuba & mexico.
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January 12, 2025 at 14:28 #50031
emersonreturn
ParticipantReports on China:
Professor Jeffrey Sachs: is there hope for US democracy: – youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch/v=TIOnsm3EIyE
(trick Q)
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January 12, 2025 at 14:38 #50032
cronetoo
ParticipantLink is broken I think (? is missing)
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January 12, 2025 at 15:40 #50035
emersonreturn
Participantthank you! lol
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January 12, 2025 at 15:45 #50036
emersonreturn
Participantsean foo
good take on biden’s recent sanctions.
Global Economy is Done: US admin. Begins its Biggest Ban on China and Russia – youtube
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January 12, 2025 at 15:53 #50037
Mr P
ParticipantSal discusses using sea water on the SoCal fires, which I previously mentioned…
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January 12, 2025 at 17:11 #50038
cronetoo
ParticipantSmoothie has a piece up that might be of interest …
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2025/01/i-hope-doug-is-correct.html
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January 12, 2025 at 21:48 #50042
cronetoo
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January 12, 2025 at 23:21 #50043
emersonreturn
Participantthanks, cronetoo.
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January 13, 2025 at 07:59 #50067
Mr P
ParticipantAlistair Crooke expressed this morning his opinion that Iran as all the components for atomic bombs, awaiting the decision, a political decision, to load the necessary fissile material (aka “poot”) into the freshly assembled machines. Well, I’ve said this before myself, the NPT does not prohibit making all the bits, and it’s stupid not to have done. In the political realm having a “breakout” period that’s understood to be merely a few hours, is, at this phase, politically superior to having the fully assembled “live” machines. Of course changes of phase happen, eh? 😉
Alastair Crooke : Should Trump Trust Netanyahu?
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January 13, 2025 at 14:28 #50076
emersonreturn
Participantsilk & steel
carl zha, brian berletic, angelo giuliano: US attempts to put strangleholds on China’s vital supply lines
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January 13, 2025 at 14:35 #50077
emersonreturn
Participantsputnik
Russia Iran Power Play: Strategic Alliance taking Shape
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January 13, 2025 at 14:54 #50078
emersonreturn
Participantempire seems determined to force india to choose. empire lusts over the kara sea & russia’s arctic reserves. the china india border clashes may’ve been to cancel a pipeline from russia. india’s participation in the arctic appears to be another.
tass
India considers impact of US sanctions Vostock Oil Project:
https://tass.com/world/1898601
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January 13, 2025 at 15:35 #50079
Mr P
ParticipantGovernor Gavin Newsom announces a sweeping plan to rebuild Los Angeles, dubbing it “L.A. 2.0” under a Marshall Plan-inspired initiative that signals major changes for the city. Newsom reveals he’s already mobilizing city officials, civic influencers, powerful business moguls, and labor unions to execute his vision. He says that the region will be completely reorganized, vowing to seek federal assistance to reshape Los Angeles ahead of the Olympics. This sounds more like a fantasy from the World Economic Forum.
I object to the partisan cant, as the other party is identical… Nevertheless…
1/13/25 🤡🤡The shamelessness and evil of the Democratic Party and the DS represented by Newsom are being thoroughly exposed through the Los Angeles fire:
After the fire, he did not make every effort to put out the fire, but used the disaster to start fundraising, ostensibly for the victims, but the fundraising link went directly to the webpage set up by his campaign committee, which was linked to ActBlue-the fundraising platform of the Democratic Party!!
After the Los Angeles fire, Newsom was interviewed by MSNBC. Instead of talking about how to put out the fire and help the victims, he talked about his “Marshall Plan”, “We already have a team reimagining Los Angeles 2.0”. It turns out that this fire was started by the future LA2.0, and the devil is too lazy to disguise himself!
It turns out that Los Angeles was listed as one of the 13 smart cities by WEF. Like Maui in Hawaii, Los Angeles will build what they call a “15-minute smart city” by 2028-a new generation of prison cities that monitor people without blind spots. No wonder Newsom now refuses to let residents return to their burned houses and is preparing to seize the land through legal means! Newsom revealed that he has mobilized municipal officials, influential citizens, powerful business tycoons and unions to realize his vision.
This disaster, which was directed by Newsom and other California Democratic treasonous groups, he used to accuse Trump of “threatening first responders.” This typical Democratic liar, murderous politician, and liar tried to throw the blame for the fire on President Trump by turning black and white. Remember a few years ago, Trump and Newsom discussed the California fires together, and the federal government allocated 5 billion for fire prevention. However, Newsom, the liar, did not carry out any forest fire prevention operations, and directly laundered the money to the Democratic Party, illegal immigrants, and personal pockets.
No wonder Fox host Jillian Michaels exposed Newsom’s lies to his face. When Newsom said this was “unprecedented”, Jillian interrupted him and said that it was not unprecedented, and California had fires every year. She criticized Newsom for getting by, shamelessly saying he would do better next time, for not building new reservoirs, and for refusing to conduct controlled burns.
Californians, you should wake up! ! If you allow a group of Democratic beasts to do this again, there will be no chance to fight next time!
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10 US cities ready for a ‘smart city future’ | Smart Cities Dive
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Shadow of Ezra on X: “Governor Gavin Newsom announces a sweeping plan to rebuild Los Angeles, dubbing it “L.A. 2.0” under a Marshall Plan-inspired initiative that signals major changes for the city. Newsom reveals he’s already mobilizing city officials, civic influencers, powerful business moguls

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January 13, 2025 at 16:15 #50080
cronetoo
Participantmy decades old hat has evolved to this:

The hot phase of US civil war begins with attack on Los Angeles
what do you think?
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January 13, 2025 at 19:59 #50087
Mr P
ParticipantWell, I bet Larry Elder would be governor if we’d had an honest election.
(FWIW Biden would not have been prez if we’d have an honest election.)
I bet that if an arsonist gang can arrange to make sure that there is no brush clearance, insufficient funding, supervising fire persons are replaced by persons selected according to girth, favored perversions, race and anatomy…and than assure that there is little water…and then waits for suitable weather conditions…and lights many fires, then the city will burn.
Then, when the fire still rages, the gang reveals a “Great New Plan”…. well!
Ask any arson investigator what he sees, eh?
I bet that “civil war” is not the right term. Perhaps “revolutionary desires” drang to revolt, manifest in an early stage. So long as the army doesn’t join in the revolutionary drang, there cannot be a civil war. Revolts, sure.
War, no. One might think about the consequences of ending the draft and the creation of a mercenary “professional” army….
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January 13, 2025 at 17:06 #50082
emersonreturn
Participant& what was she doing in ghana?
official capacity or personal? business or hoping to buy real estate while visiting friends ? even for (i refrain from saying elected official b/c a lot of people in that part of paradise insist their vote is utterly meaningless & has been for years & that there is no point of bothering to line up or mail in) a mayor of the 2nd largest city in murica? what are the chances the fiddling mayor had been designated captain traore’s welcoming party?
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January 13, 2025 at 17:40 #50083
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January 16, 2025 at 04:26 #50213
AHH
Keymaster
“& what was she doing in ghana?official capacity or personal? business or hoping to buy real estate while visiting friends ?”
I suspect this is about a bug out ratline. The black nazi technocrats aren’t all braindead. They see they are being instructed to take the US down. That there is absolutely no future for them personally, who’ll be left with the bag when the music stops. Minorities, who own next to none of the land, water or liveable areas outside the doomed megacities, are being set up.
So like 1% caucasians bolting to lush islands in the south seas, their criminal allies gravitate towards the beautiful stable anglophone Ghana, among the traditional bases of Pan-Africanism since before Kwame ‘Nkrumah (with JFK above). You could say the equivalent magnet of black nazis as Zion is for the international wandering jew.
In the terrible End Times, the pot unmelts and rehomogenizes along purest nazi lines!
And guess who sensitized these black gauleiters to sell out their birth country?? Yep, Pelosi and other congress critters who flaunted the beautiful scarves of Ghana…
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-52978780


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January 13, 2025 at 20:09 #50089
Mr P
ParticipantEXCLUSIVE: James O’Keefe Discuses Incoming Footage from Washington DC Investigations and Deep State Attempts to Sabotage Trump – Zuckerberg Also Exposed? STAY TUNED (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jordan Conradson
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Russia-Iran Power Play: Strategic Alliance Taking Shape
https://kerykeion.substack.com/p/russia-iran-power-play-strategic
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Robert J Garnett@rob_garnett 2 hours ago….
Trump Calls PutinHey Vladimir, I’m back.
Congratulations President Trump, I knew you would, that guy they replaced you with was a dud. I bet you’re glad he’s gone. We are, he got right up my nose. You really need to change out that term limit of yours, we got rid of ours and I’m set for life.
Sure, sure. And they can’t blame it on you this time either. We are going to Make America Great Again just like you did with Russia.
Thankyou Mr President, is there anything I can help you with?
Well I would like to get that tape from you and I would like to ditch Zelensky.
Mr President, I’m not sure I know what tape you mean, but I’m with you on Zelensky. But it’s no good getting rid of Zelensky if Ukraine joins NATO. I’m sure you understand that.
Yes Vladimir I feel you there. I’m not that keen on NATO either, too many Canadians and Europeans in it for me, and the Brits, what a bunch of losers. I’m pretty sure we can stop the NATO thing if you could fix that small problem, you know what I’m getting at.
Certainly Mr President, its in the bottom draw of my desk.
OK, OK, I’ll send my guy Hedgehog over to pick it up, but seal it up so he can’t play it. He’s a solid guy, but he needs some right think. I’ll give him that before he gets there.
That’s fine Mr President, but I will need him to give me a receipt. We have a standard document for this I’ll email you a copy. Now because we need to keep this hush, hush as you know, it won’t say video tape it will say something like New Security agreement for Russia and Europe, but don’t worry about that, it’s just paper work, but in code. Its a bit like that free trade agreement you signed with Mexico and Canada, pretty meaningless. If you could initial each page and then sign on page three hundred and fifty five there will be no prob’s with the tape.
Sure Sure Vladimir, will do. I’ll get Hedgehog on to it. Would love to have a coffee with you so, fire up the samovar and I’ll be over. I heard you can’t travel because of legal troubles with the ICC. I know what you’re going through, Joe threw the book at me during the election campaign I had subpoena’s coming out my ass. We could bomb the ICC if that would help?
No need Mr President we might bomb them ourselves, we are a lot closer. Looking forward to seeing you.
Thankyou Vladimir. Bye for now.”
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January 13, 2025 at 20:52 #50090
emersonreturn
Participantdear grieved, muchas gracias amigo.
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January 13, 2025 at 21:39 #50091
Grieved
ParticipantThis is a very good roundup of the evidence for intentional destruction in the LA fires, and the use of some kinds of directed energy weapons:
https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/a-forensics-examination-of-video
This may be the same person who did a similar thing for the Maui meltdown, I’m not sure.
I did see the speculation on a Russian site that this attack was in part aimed at destroying evidence of pedophilia and other such crimes, in fear that the Trump team will uncover it…not so sure about all that, but it’s an idea I hadn’t heard yet so I’ll put it on the table.
After the hurricane that hit North Carolina, I saw mention that most of the weather engineering is done by outsource now, to private companies (a fairly typical Pentagon preference). I can’t find this evidence chain at the moment, but if true, it may explain how simple private mining companies could force a hurricane all the way north like that (blithely devastating parts of the Florida coast along the way). In other words, this kind of havoc could be on its way to becoming increasingly local/provincial/tribal, as it were, involving mere corporate profits rather than overarching social manipulations. Slightly too soon to tell perhaps.
FWIW, the excitable guy at In2ThinAir on YouTube tracks a lot of the Nexrad activity and saw something coming to LA just before these fires, but I didn’t follow and can’t speak very coherently on that. I did follow the hurricane, and he was right on the money with the North Carolina event.
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January 13, 2025 at 23:29 #50092
emersonreturn
Participantagain, much appreciated.
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January 14, 2025 at 08:29 #50115
cronetoo
ParticipantShort vid clip
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January 14, 2025 at 19:39 #50141
emersonreturn
Participantted richards on Smoothie recommended this:
The Mathematics of PsyWar
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January 15, 2025 at 08:43 #50169
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January 15, 2025 at 10:46 #50185
emersonreturn
Participantsean foo
DANGER: Major G7 export Dumped for BRICS, US meltdown ‘China Cheated to Power ‘- this is next. youtube
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January 15, 2025 at 19:36 #50206
emersonreturn
Participantjanuary 15 2025…dancing in the streets! to celebrate our Lord has gifted a sunset that paints our horizon with shades of every sage, poet & prophet against a coral skeletal winter gary oak in celebration of this—Gaza Truce! tonight, we gaze upon a clear black sky illuminated with a mandarin orange (its other bright side) full wolf moon! all heaven dances tonight.
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January 15, 2025 at 22:37 #50207
emersonreturn
Participantjust in case we didn’t have enough to celebrate.
Novgorod-made FPV drone Prince Vandal causes $300 mln damage to Nato
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January 16, 2025 at 03:14 #50211
emersonreturn
Participantdanny haiphong
Brian Berletic: Putin drops BOMBSHELL on NATO, Ukraine frontline COLLAPSES as Kursk Backfires – youtube
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January 16, 2025 at 10:20 #50239
emersonreturn
Participantawakening richard
Hong Kong Professor exposes hidden reasons behind America’s forever wars – youtube
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