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If the US is foolish enough to start a big war against Iran .. geography is the indomitable god of war.

By William Schryver at imetatronink.

So the US is sending Carrier Strike Group One (CVN-70 USS Carl Vinson) to the Middle East, leaving CSG-5 (CVN-73 USS George Washington) to “hold the fort” in the western Pacific from the semi-safe environs of its quasi-permanent berth in Yokosuka, Japan.

All the Washington does is sail back and forth between San Diego and Yokosuka every so often to give the impression it’s doing something meaningful. Otherwise I’ve seen no indication for several years that it is anything more than a training and parade vessel.

In any case, the Vinson is headed to the Arabian Sea, and perhaps points beyond. (That remains to be seen.)

Meanwhile the deployment of CSG-8 (CVN-75 USS Trembling Puppy) has been extended, even as it remains bottled up in the northern reaches of the Red Sea, launching air strikes on Yemen from ~1000 km away, with USAF refueling tankers at the ready as needed.

The Yemeni have launched a few modest packages of antiquated drones and antiship cruise missiles in the general direction of the Trembling Puppy – all of which have been relatively easy pickings for the cruiser and destroyers and combat air patrol.

But, keep in mind, even though these old and slow Yemeni drones and missiles have little chance of scoring a hit from 1000 km away, the carrier strike group ships and planes still have to shoot at every one of them!

So every Yemeni strike package of a couple dozen missiles will deplete CSG-8’s munitions magazines by AT LEAST a corresponding number of air defense missiles, and quite possibly TWICE as many, according to standard practice of firing two interceptors at each threat.

CSG-8’s magazine depth has already been substantially depleted over the course of the past two weeks — and remember, the US Navy cannot replenish its vertical launch systems at sea.

And, of course, if military operations against Iran are the ultimate objective, then at some point the Trembling Puppy and its entourage are going to have to leave the cozy waters between Jeddah and the Gulf of Suez, and run the gauntlet of the Gate of Lamentation (Bab el-Mandeb).

The Gate of Lamentation (Bab el-Mandeb)

That’s when things could get more interesting. Because it’s a pretty tight squeeze to pass through. A big deep-draft aircraft carrier can’t just run at full speed, zig-zagging back and forth. It has to stick to the navigable channel.

Navigable Shipping Channels in the Bab el-Mandeb

In the relatively open waters north of Jeddah, there is quite a bit of room for maneuver. But in the straits, you’re restricted to a narrow band — and most significantly, potential Yemeni missile launching sites are only ~200 km away. A more substantial strike package of 50 or so drones, antiship cruise missiles, antiship ballistic missiles, and fast boat and surface drone attacks will get there a whole lot faster, and with a much better chance of actually hitting something.

So, even though CSG-8’s odds of passing through unscathed still probably remain pretty good, there is unquestionably a considerably elevated risk compared to hiding out at the mouth of the Gulf of Suez.

But let’s suppose they sail right through the Bab el-Mandeb with minimal difficulties … then what? You join up with CSG-1 in the Arabian Sea and attempt long-distance strikes into southern Iran — strikes that would still require air-refueling to have any meaningful reach?

Because you sure as hell aren’t going to sail a couple carrier strike groups into the Persian Gulf. And anyone who believes otherwise is drowning in delusion. I mean, just look at the damn map! The Iranians have potent fire control over the passage from the Gulf of Oman, through the Strait of Hormuz, and throughout the entire Persian Gulf.

Strait of Hormuz / Persian Gulf

So I ask, in all seriousness, what exactly are two US Navy carrier strike groups going to do in the context of a no-holds-barred war against Iran?

To me, the entire concept screams of hubris running blindly into catastrophe.

If the US is foolish enough to start a big war against Iran, then 2025 is likely to demonstrate yet again that, combined with firepower, geography is the indomitable god of war.

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Mr P
1 year ago

oops !read “international law” (me need coffee yet)

Mr P
1 year ago

Our Yemeni brothers may not be motivated by “internal law”, rather by moral imperative. However their actions are in accord. Interestingly this video is by Americans in American English – thus to an American audience..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YAQ7ZVC1BI

asn1
asn1
1 year ago

So I ask, in all seriousness, what exactly are two US Navy carrier strike groups going to do in the context of a no-holds-barred war against Iran?

Sink, perhaps?

amarynth
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1 year ago
Reply to  asn1

Yemen is reporting they use them as targets. More seriously, there were major attacks against the carriers in the previous few hours. The US is playing the ‘freedom of navigation’ card for ‘themselves and the world’. The carriers will be protecting us. OK, enough sarcasm. I think it is pure… Read more »

amarynth
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amarynth
Admin
1 year ago

There is the issue of those mothers of all bombs. Delivery by air is an option here. The carriers may just be power projection. But I did see some footage this morning with the one carrier being absolutely stuffed with missiles.

emersonreturn
1 year ago
Reply to  AHH

i cling to the hope china’s base in Djibouti has been uniquely equipped to protect yemen. during the pivotal meeting between xi & putin, prior to the onset of the smo, i fantasized that in amongst the myriad items & ground covered that it was agreed that when it became… Read more »

Biggus Dickus
Biggus Dickus
1 year ago
Reply to  amarynth

There’s another major deciding factor. Russian AD systems are protecting Iranian airspace now.
Smoothiex12 detailed these in a recent post
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2025/03/and-how-exactly-this-meaningful-support.html?m=0

amarynth
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Biggus Dickus

Smoothie also really complains in the piece quoted about people that talk war without the required knowledge and there I agree with him. Smoothie also talks about an attack on Iran by Israel, and that is what he bases his piece on. Israel is but one player in the region.… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by amarynth
wlhaught2
1 year ago
Reply to  amarynth

If Iran sinks one to three carriers in the first two hours, let alone, first 20 minutes, if Uncle $laughter or at the very least the the chihuahuas around them have any sense, they will have learned a lesson in “keeping it friendly”

https://vkvideo.ru/video49740835_168654066&t=2723

Biggus Dickus
Biggus Dickus
1 year ago
Reply to  amarynth

Take a look, a long look at how long it took Russia to lay down a border incursion and it is not over yet Have to disagree with you here. I also was furious when the ukies were able to penetrate Russian defenses and advance deep inside Russia itself. However,… Read more »

amarynth
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1 year ago
Reply to  Biggus Dickus

Biggus .. I sometimes disagree with Smoothie – just as you disagree with me here. And he will be the first one to tell you that he does not know the thinking of the Russian General Staff. It does not matter whether Russia ‘allowed’ or not, the time taken is… Read more »

amarynth
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1 year ago
Reply to  Biggus Dickus

Air defense systems from Russia to Iran for missiles yes.

Last edited 1 year ago by amarynth
Biggus Dickus
Biggus Dickus
1 year ago
Reply to  amarynth

They’re not only meant for missiles but also for countering aerial attacks.