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  • in reply to: The Hearty Salon 8/11/2023 … Open Thread #21213
    Sudhi
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    Come, fill the Cup, and in the Fire of Spring
    The Winter Garment of Repentance fling:
    The Bird of Time has but a little way
    To fly – and Lo! the Bird is on the Wing

    – Rubaiyat by Omar Khayyam

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 8/11/2023 … Open Thread #21206
    Sudhi
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    The Economist’s Prophetic Cover is Decoded:
    https://m.tsargrad.tv/news/putin-s-trampom-si-i-bajden-porozn-prorocheskaja-oblozhka-the-economist-rasshifrovana_909492
    On the cover there is Zelensky, over which” hung ” shells and the silhouette of a stranger. He looks at Putin through an hourglass. Images of Putin and Zelensky are flanked by space rockets and satellites, and below that is a ballot box. According to the magazine, in 2024, more than 70 elections will be held in countries with about 4.2 billion people.

    The ballot box means that Zelensky, Putin, and Biden are up for election. As for Xi Jinping, he just finished the election, and successfully. The hourglass just shows that everyone’s time is running out. And for Xi Jinping, that time is already going backwards.

    On the right side of the cover is a fall chart with four currency symbols-pound sterling, euro, dollar and yuan.

    The question of currency is what will be the main one in the future. We have come to the conclusion that in 2024 there should be a clear definition of which currency will begin to pull the blanket over itself if the dollar does not stand up. And he, apparently, will not resist. Anyway, I can see that this is a cover for the whole year, so it’s natural that we will see this chart, the rise or fall of currencies.

    Brain Drain:
    To the left of the urn are brains with wires-probably a hint of a new breakthrough in the development of AI, but at the same time we see how information is being “pumped” out of the human brain.

    This is artificial intelligence. At the same time, there is a brain drain, I would say. Brains are running out, and the essence of artificial intelligence will probably be based on the fact that the human brain should be the main one here for now, and artificial intelligence should be trained.

    Russia will bring peace:
    At the same time, Zelensky is on a red background, and Putin is on a blue one. The bird carries a branch for the red background, i.e. for Ukraine. This is not just world peace, but purposefully Putin is working to bring peace to Ukraine. There are ballistic missiles near Zelensky. But he would like long-range, the most dangerous for Russia.

    Mysterious circles:
    According to Koshkin, the characteristic feature of this picture is an eclipse, and getting out of it may mean enlightenment in relations between Russia and Ukraine.

    The eclipse occurs in the center, and then again the relationship is enlightened. Prospects for the development of relations between Ukraine and Russia.

    It is worth noting that the section between the equatorial visualization and the lower belt is shown below, but here the circles already have red and blue colors, he added.

    Blue is the US, red is China. But they also interact very actively here. But in the center of the question, how will the confrontation between the United States and China end? At the same time, there is just a dark circle on top. That is, we must go through the dark days, and then the dove of peace will still change the situation.

    Containing China:
    I think that China wants to integrate Latin America, that is, China wants to go to the backyard of the United States, and the United States wants to go to the backyard of China – in order to contain. And we see the battery. On the one hand, it is a fuel supply of the car, on the other hand-the transition to climate-friendly conditions. Probably, these rare-earth fossils from below-this is uranium and all that stuff-again characterize China’s desire to find itself in economic power for the whole world. In Biden’s squares, we see the same thing, a green economy, but these are wind farms-therefore, wind turbines that generate electricity, and it is delivered all over the world.

    in reply to: West Asia front Thread, 11 Nov 2023 #21205
    Sudhi
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    Forwarded from Colonelcassad:
    Israel continues to tighten the ring around Gaza. So far, everything is developing in line with identical pictures of the assaults on Raqqa and Mosul. Over time, if the political pressure on Israel does not become unbearable, this part of the enclave should gradually be chewed up with understandable consequences for its population and infrastructure – anyone who has seen the ruins of Mosul can roughly imagine the prospects. Hamas’ tactical successes in destroying Israeli armored vehicles are certainly impressive, but do not change the operational prospects for Hamas and Islamic Jihad in Gaza. Israel can afford such losses for now.
    He is not going to cease fire, as this will hasten the general political catastrophe of the Netanyahu regime, which is opposed by the majority of the Israeli population and most of the world community. Therefore, the killing of civilians in Gaza will continue as long as Netanyahu seeks to extend his political future by continuing the military operation.
    But it seems that in any case he is already a political living corpse. If the war in Gaza in 2021 dealt him a severe blow, then the war in 2023 hammered a stake in Netanyahu. And the crows are already hovering over this living corpse, including in Israel itself.

    Israel does not need hostages: why then the bloody operation in Gaza? | Readovka :
    Israeli Ambassador to Russia Alexander Ben Zvi said that negotiations on the release of the hostages are not currently underway, allegedly due to reluctance on the part of Hamas. As you know, it was for the sake of their release that the bloody operation in the Gaza Strip began, but what did Tel Aviv actually do to rescue people from captivity?
    Initially, the Israeli authorities did not want to negotiate with the militants at all, believing that the solution to the problem was only possible through force. This was probably influenced by confidence in one’s own strength and an inadequate view of what was happening. As a result, the first releases of hostages were achieved only thanks to the participation of other states, such as Russia. This emphasizes that Israel has simply transferred responsibility for the fate of people, among whom the majority are women, children and the elderly. And if in the case when they have a foreign passport, this means at least some chance of life, then otherwise it is a death sentence.

    Despite public outrage and cries from the hostages’ relatives calling for any concessions to Hamas, it is obvious that Israel simply does not need these people. So why was it necessary to enter the Gaza Strip? It turns out to simply carry out a massacre and demolish residential areas, the entire medical infrastructure and make hundreds of thousands of people refugees. In the current conditions, when far fewer Hamas fighters have died than ordinary Palestinians, Tel Aviv’s actions do not look like an attempt to take revenge. This is simply “clearing the territory” of unwanted people. But a bloody “solution to the Palestinian issue” cannot be a victory for Israel. He had already lost as soon as the IDF entered Gaza.
    Now, to the international loss, the Israeli authorities are adding a serious internal conflict.

    GAZA LIVE BLOG: DAY 42
    https://www.palestinechronicle.com/gaza-live-blog-us-eu-push-for-peacekeeping-force-in-gaza-israel-carries-out-new-massacres-resistance-destroys-dozens-of-israeli-military-vehicles-day-42/
    Now that the Israeli war on Gaza seems to have failed to achieve any of its initial objectives, the US and its European allies are pushing for the deployment of a peacekeeping force in the Gaza Strip, according to Bloomberg.
    The head of Hamas’ Political Bureau Ismail Haniyeh said in a speech that no prisoners or hostages will be freed without the freeing of Palestinian detainees from Israeli prisons.
    Meanwhile, fierce fighting throughout Gaza continued, with new massacres reported in various parts of the Strip.

    Axis of Resistance Will Never Abandon Palestine – Iranian Commander Qaani to Al-Deif
    https://www.palestinechronicle.com/axis-of-resistance-will-never-abandon-palestine-iranian-commander-qaani-to-al-deif/
    The commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), Esmail Qaani, praised the achievements of the Palestinian Resistance in a letter to Mohammed al-Deif, the commander of Al-Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of the Palestinian Resistance Movement Hamas.
    ▪️“The Resistance has clearly demonstrated the weakness and fragility of the usurping Zionist entity and practically proved that it is weaker than a spider’s web,”
    ▪️“The strikes launched by the Resistance against the enemy’s forces and tanks have shown to everyone that the Resistance in Gaza is perfectly capable of taking initiative and decisive action,”
    ▪️Qaani also said that Gaza is defending today the “honor, pride, and dignity of the Ummah,” underlining that “your brothers standing with you in the Axis of al-Quds and Resistance will not allow the enemy and those behind it to dominate Gaza and its people.”
    ▪️“We reaffirm the covenant, pledge, and the religious and fraternal commitment that unites us, and we assure you that, within our continued protection and influential support for the Resistance, we will do everything necessary in this historical battle,” Qaani stressed in the conclusion of his letter to the renowned Resistance leader.

    The latest article by Elijah J Magnier:
    https://ejmagnier.com/2023/11/16/why-did-hezbollah-not-declare-total-war-on-israel-taking-advantage-of-al-aqsa-flood/
    “There have been many questions as to why Hezbollah did not fully engage in an all-out war in the conflict known as the “Al-Aqsa Flood”. Hezbollah chose to maintain a supportive and engaging role rather than fully immerse itself in this conflict, even though the Israeli occupation forces were heavily engaged on the southern front with Gaza. This decision can be approached from several strategic, political and regional perspectives. It may be based on strategic considerations, where such an action could have escalated the conflict to a level that could have broader regional implications, potentially drawing in other countries and leading to a large-scale war that Hezbollah may have considered undesirable or unsustainable, and where the objectives could not be achieved…

    The prevailing view in these communities is that a confrontation between Hezbollah and Israel is almost inevitable, making it a matter of timing rather than possibility. The presence of Hezbollah forces along the border, perceived by Israeli settlers as a direct threat, adds to the tension and the likelihood of an eventual clash. It is only a matter of time.”

    Sudhi
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    Palestine
    by Mahmoud Darwish

    This land gives us
    all that makes life worth living:
    April’s blushing advances,
    the aroma of bread at dawn,
    a woman’s haranguing of men,
    the poetry of Aeschylus,
    love’s trembling beginning,
    moss on a stone
    mothers dancing on a flute’s thread
    and the invaders’ fear of memories.

    This land give us
    all that makes life worth living:
    September’s rustling end,
    a woman leaving forty behind with her apricots,
    an hour of sunlight in prison,
    clouds reflecting swarms of insects,
    a people’s applause for those who laugh at their erasure,
    and the tyrant’s fear of songs.

    This land give us
    all that makes life worth living:
    Lady Earth, mother of all beginnings and endings,
    She was called Palestine
    and she is still called Palestine.
    My Lady, because you are my Lady, I deserve life.

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 8/11/2023 … Open Thread #21163
    Sudhi
    Participant

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/watch-blinken-dies-inside-while-biden-blunders-through-major-geopolitical-moment
    With President Biden’s 81st birthday right around the corner, his ancient brain – barely clinging to reality, is no longer responding to whatever cocktail of drugs and blood transfusions (we can only assume) have been keeping him marginally functional since his inauguration.
    😄😄

    in reply to: West Asia front Thread, 11 Nov 2023 #21159
    Sudhi
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    Forwarded from Older than Edda:
    It is interesting that a possible ceasefire in Gaza could be fraught with greater troubles for Israel than the continuation of hostilities. The question is the conditions. For now we are talking about a truce for the exchange of prisoners, but given the pressure from some forces in the States and quite significant – in Europe this truce may drag on and turn into a stable one – it will be more difficult to resume attacks every day.

    This, in turn, will mean the need to wind down the mobilized army (the burden on the economy is already great) and declare the operation terminated – and then Hamas will retain power.

    And the problem here is not that, as the State Department previously warned, “Hamas will be able to get a break, rest and rearm,” but that maintaining the movement in power in the sector will be perceived as Israel’s inability to cope with its weakest enemy today. The strongest will have a significant temptation and soon the region may become even hotter.

    Forwarded from Freshness:
    ▪️Turkish journalist Metin Cihan published a list of 260 commercial cargo ships that sailed to Israel from Turkey after the bombing of the Gaza Strip began.
    The journalist also reported that the volume of supplies from Turkey to Israel began to increase, for example yesterday it was already 13 ships, and on average since October 7 Seven commercial ships loaded with goods sailed from Turkey to Israel.

    ▪️All internet and telecommunications are cut off in the Gaza Strip while IDF tanks surround Al-Ahly Baptist Hospital. Israel continues to accuse Hamas of using medical facilities as bases – Red Cross.

    Hamas rejects report on Haniyah, Iran’s Leader meeting info:
    https://en.mehrnews.com/news/208418/Hamas-rejects-report-on-Haniyah-▪️Iran-s-Leader-meeting-info
    Hamas has categorically rejected the accuracy of a Reuters report regarding the meeting between Ismail Haniyeh, the head of its political bureau, and Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei, the Leader of the Islamic Revolution.

    https://en.mehrnews.com/news/208416/No-tunnel-found-beneath-Shifa-Hospital-report
    ▪️ Media have called into question the Zionist Israeli regime’s military claim on the existence of tunnels under the Gaza main hospital, with CNN saying that no evidence yet of a vast tunnel network it claimed was used by Hamas.
    ▪️Doctors and health officials in the Hamas-controlled enclave have consistently rejected accusations that the hospital was the site of a command center.
    ▪️ There is certainly no indication yet that troops have uncovered a multi-level tunnel structure with underground chambers — of the kind illustrated in an animation presented by the Zionist regime army spokesman at a briefing almost three weeks ago.
    ▪️ Hamas responded to earlier comments from the Israeli army – that troops had found weapons inside the hospital – as a blatant lie and propaganda.

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 8/11/2023 … Open Thread #21156
    Sudhi
    Participant

    Very interesting interview with General Otto Ernst Remer.

    in reply to: The Hearty Salon 8/11/2023 … Open Thread #21100
    Sudhi
    Participant

    “Product 30” gave the Su-57 a number of important advantages:
    https://m.vz.ru/society/2023/11/15/1239775.html
    Russian fifth-generation fighter Su-57 began to equip the engine of the second stage (“Product 30”). One of its main features is that it develops supersonic speed without turning on the afterburner. This not only reduces fuel consumption, but also increases the combat radius of the aircraft.

    In the first ground launch of the “Product 30” demonstrator engine, compared to the AL-41F1, the Product 30 increased the thrust from nine tons (in afterburner mode) to 17.5-19.5 tons. The engine itself is characterized with increased fuel efficiency and reduced life cycle cost. According to Evgeny Marchukov, General Designer and Director of the Lyulka Design Bureau, the Product 30 will surpass all foreign analogues in terms of specific thrust.

    From the technical features, it is also known that the oxygen-free ignition system on the upgraded injectors ignites the fuel immediately after it enters the combustion chamber, and the new nozzles control the thrust vector. The expert community agrees that

    With the second-stage engine, the Su-57 gets a number of undeniable advantages. In addition, this achievement allows Russia to remain among the great powers leading in the engine industry.
    “This engine improves specific readings both in terms of thrust and fuel consumption. There were reports that the plane’s visibility indicators might change. But one of the fundamental issues is to provide cruising supersonics without turning on the afterburner, which will allow you to quickly and secretly reach the borders of the use of weapons. This is especially important when performing missions over vast areas, ” says Oleg Panteleev, Executive Director of the Aviaport Agency.

    in reply to: West Asia front Thread, 11 Nov 2023 #21095
    Sudhi
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    No Hostages Found – Why Netanyahu Wanted to Storm Al-Shifa:
    https://www.palestinechronicle.com/no-hostages-found-why-netanyahu-wanted-to-storm-al-shifa/
    Israeli soldiers found no hostages during searches of the Al-Shifa Medical Complex in Gaza City, Sky News Arabia reported, citing Israeli sources.
    According to Sky News, Israeli special forces searched every inch of the hospital and questioned several doctors, medical personnel, and internally displaced persons.

    According to the Gaza government media office, there are almost 9,000 people inside the hospital, including patients, medical staff, and displaced Palestinians.

    Previously, Israel’s Radio Kan announced that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu held off on agreeing to exchange a group of civilians for Palestinians detained in Israeli prisons to roll the dice with the assault on the al-Shifa hospital.
    According to Radio Kan, Netanyahu’s expectations that Israeli forces would find hostages there did not materialize.

    GAZA LIVE BLOG: Israel Commits another War Crime by Invading Shifa Hospital, Evacuating Patients, Using Refugees as Human Shields – DAY 40
    https://www.palestinechronicle.com/gaza-live-blog-israel-commits-another-war-crime-by-invading-shifa-hospital-evacuating-patients-using-refugees-as-human-shields-day-40/#

    Hamas to stop attacks if Israel ends Gaza genocide:
    https://en.mehrnews.com/news/208385/Hamas-to-stop-attacks-if-Israel-ends-Gaza-genocide
    Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian on Wednesday met and held talks with the UN’s Emergency Relief Chief Martin Griffith to discuss Gaza.

    During the meeting, the top Iranian diplomat stressed the need to take urgent and effective measures to stop the Israeli regime’s crimes against the Palestinians in the besieged Gaza Strip.

    Referring to his recent meetings with Hamas leaders, Amir-Abdollahian said that Hamas would stop its counterattacks if the Zionists end the genocide in Gaza. He added that the Palestinian Resistance group is ready to take action regarding releasing the civilian prisoners.

    Elsewhere in his remarks, Amir-Abdollahian said that there is no chance for the Zionist regime to win the war and the continuation of the war only increases the costs for the American government as the biggest supporter of the Zionist regime.

    The amount of humanitarian aid sent to Gaza is very small and it is necessary for the United Nations to take immediate and serious action in this regard, he added.

    in reply to: West Asia front Thread, 11 Nov 2023 #21093
    Sudhi
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    Forwarded from https://t.me/svezhesti/ (Freshness):
    Erdogan again called Israel a terrorist state and assured that Israel’s plans would end in disappointment.
    Meanwhile, in the Islamic segment of social networks, rumors are spreading about a new attempt to organize the ” Freedom Flotilla ” with the support of Turkey, in order to break the blockade of the Gaza Strip, is reaching the finish line.

    Erdogan could simply block the oil pipeline connecting Israel and Azerbaijan. All the while the Turkish president is shouting that the Israelis are killing innocent children in Gaza, fuel is flowing through his country into the Jewish state for the IDF, which is bombing these very children. At the same time, Baku provides ~40% of oil for Israel.

    Turkey’s steel industry plays a significant role in the global market, especially in trade relations with Israel. Whenever there is fighting involving Israel (such as the current war with the Gaza Strip), most of the steel used in Israeli munitions comes from Turkey.

    📈The dynamics of trade between the two countries have changed significantly since 2002, when the Justice and Development Party (AKP) came to power. Over the past 20 years, Turkish steel has meant a lot to Israel. Turkey’s steel sector is experiencing rapid growth in exports to Israel, highlighting its strategic importance.
    In 2022, Turkish steel exports reached $21 billion, with Israel accounting for 10%.
    Over the past 20 years, Turkey has accounted for 65% of the steel imported into Israel.
    Trade between Turkey and Israel has only been growing since the AKP came to power (2002).

    Forwarded from Colonelcassad:
    Another failure of Israeli propaganda. It turned out that the “Hamas bunker” under Shifa Hospital is actually an Israeli bunker built under the Al-Shifa compound back in 1983, when Israel occupied the Gaza Strip.
    This is why the Israelis were so sure that there was something under the hospital.

    Back in 1983, when Israel still controlled the Gaza Strip, it built a secure underground operating room and network of tunnels under the Shifa Hospital and a cement basement under the second building of the hospital, which journalists are expressly prohibited from entering.

    Forwarded from Zergulio:
    “The IDF publishes footage of the bombing of the parliament building in Gaza, where fighters had previously been photographed after its capture.
    A very significant and symbolic gesture. Israel clearly shows that there will no longer be state and order in this territory. Just a wasteland.”

    The White House says that the United States did not “give the go-ahead” for Israel to storm Al-Shifa Hospital, LOL 😄

    Sudhi
    Participant

    “To Our Land” from The Butterfly’s Burden.
    by Mahmoud Darwish

    To our land,
    and it is the one near the word of god,
    a ceiling of clouds
    To our land,
    and it is the one far from the adjectives of nouns,
    the map of absence
    To our land,
    and it is the one tiny as a sesame seed,
    a heavenly horizon … and a hidden chasm
    To our land,
    and it is the one poor as a grouse’s wings,
    holy books … and an identity wound
    To our land,
    and it is the one surrounded with torn hills,
    the ambush of a new past
    To our land, and it is a prize of war,
    the freedom to die from longing and burning
    and our land, in its bloodied night,
    is a jewel that glimmers for the far upon the far
    and illuminates what’s outside it …
    As for us, inside,
    we suffocate more!

    English translation by Fady Joudah

    in reply to: West Asia front Thread, 11 Nov 2023 #21065
    Sudhi
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    “Mein Kampf in Gaza and ISIS Flags in Israel? Israeli Hasbara is Falling Apart”
    By Ramzy Baroud & Romana Rubeo
    https://www.palestinechronicle.com/mein-kampf-in-gaza-and-isis-flags-in-israel-israeli-hasbara-is-falling-apart/#
    ▪️A common joke among Palestinians these days is that Israeli leaders are emulating Arab leaders in previous Arab-Israeli wars, in terms of language, phony victories and unsubstantiated gains on the military front.
    ▪️Abu Obeida and Abu Hamza, military spokesmen for the Al-Qassam Brigades and the Al-Quds Brigades respectively, provide very careful accounts of the nature of the battle and the losses of advancing Israeli military forces in their regular, much-anticipated statements.
    ▪️The Israeli military, on the other hand, speaks of impending victories, killing of unnamed ‘terrorists’ and destruction of countless tunnels, while rarely providing any evidence. The only ‘evidence’ provided is the intentional targeting of hospitals, schools and civilian homes.
    ▪️And, while Abu Obeida’s statements are almost always followed by well-produced videos, documenting the systematic destruction of Israeli tanks, no such documentation substantiates Israeli military claims.

    There are reasons why Israeli propaganda is no longer able to effectively influence public opinion even though mainstream media continues to side with Israel, even when the latter is committing a genocide.
    ▪️Firstly, is that Palestinians and their supporters have managed to ‘cancel’ Israel using social media which, for the first time, overwhelmed the organized propaganda campaigns often engineered on behalf of Israel in corporate media.
    ▪️Secondly, independent media, Palestinian and others, offered alternatives to those seeking a different version of events to what is taking place in Gaza.
    ▪️Thirdly, the ‘surprise attack’ of October 7 has deprived Israel of the initiative, not only regarding the war itself, but also the justification for the war. Indeed, their genocidal war on Gaza has no specific objectives, but also has no precise media campaign to defend or rationalize these unspecified objectives. Therefore, the Israeli media narrative appears disconnected, haphazard and, at times, even self-damaging.
    ▪️And, finally, the sheer brutality of the Israeli genocide in Gaza. If one is to juxtapose Israeli media lies with the horrific Israeli crimes committed in Gaza, one would find no plausible logic that could convincingly justify mass murder, displacement, starvation and genocide of a defenseless population.

    ▪️A whole generation, if not more, has already built a perception of Israel as a genocidal regime and no number of future lies, Hollywood movies or Maxim Magazine spreads will ever lessen that in any way.
    ▪️More importantly, this new perception is likely to compel people, not only to re-examine their views of Israel’s present and future, but of the past as well – the very foundation of the Zionist regime, itself predicated on nothing but lies.

    in reply to: West Asia front Thread, 11 Nov 2023 #21053
    Sudhi
    Participant

    GAZA LIVE BLOG: DAY 39
    https://www.palestinechronicle.com/gaza-live-blog-hrw-demands-international-investigation-new-massacre-in-khan-yunis-hospitals-without-fuel-west-bank-death-toll-rises-day-39/

    https://en.mehrnews.com/news/208358/Hamas-says-killed-7-Israeli-soldiers-at-point-blank-range
    In a statement on Tuesday afternoon, the Qassam Brigades said that “Our fighters killed 7 Zionist soldiers at point-blank range in the northern axis of Gaza City and incinerated an armored personnel carrier and two Zionist tanks at the same location after firing ‘Yassin 105’ shells.”
    Also, earlier today, Al-Qassam Brigades said in a separate statement that its fighters targeted two Israel tanks and a military bulldozer with ‘Tandem’ shells in northwest of Gaza City.

    Forwarded from Zergulio:
    The brilliance and poverty of Israeli propaganda. Touching story in all media “Right now IDF delivers incubators for premature babies to Shifa Hospital in Gaza.” 🤔

    Hell’s bells, after a month of carpet bombing, as well as a blockade of electricity, fuel, medicine, water and food, for some reason the IOF is delivering incubators for premature babies to the Dar al-Shifa (House of Healing) hospital in Gaza.

    Children in incubators of the hospital died due to the lack of electricity, as the generators had run out of fuel, and Israeli’s had destroyed the solar panels on the rooftop with targeted strikes. Therefore, these new incubators which are completely useless can be hammered back in the a** of IOF, who remain deep into their lord ‘Nut-en-yahu’.

    in reply to: West Asia front Thread, 11 Nov 2023 #21045
    Sudhi
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    “The children drank salt water from underground and urinated in blood”: what Russians rescued from the Gaza Strip say-
    Читайте на http://WWW.KP.RU: https://www.kp.ru/daily/27581/4851000/
    “When it all started in October, we ran to schools. There wasn’t enough space inside, so they pitched tents around and slept on the bare ground. They thought that schools would not be shelled. This was the case in 2009, when there was that war (then the conflict between Israel and Hamas lasted about three weeks), then only the roads were bombed. Now everything has been destroyed, there is no safe place there,” sighs Elena, who lived in the Gaza Strip for 19 years. “We dug the ground to get to at least some water. Water came through, but it was sea water. The children asked to drink, then urinated with blood. They paid exorbitant amounts of money for a bottle of fresh water.

    How the Russians ended up in the Gaza Strip, everyone’s story, plus or minus, is the same. Palestinians came to study at our universities, started families here and went back to their homeland. In response to perplexed naive questions in the spirit of “How is it possible, there’s war there all the time!”, people say:
    This is a beautiful land, the clashes on which have become a kind of background. Don’t think that we had total devastation and poverty there before these events. No, we lived well, happily. Beauty salons, music schools, hospitals – all this… happened!

    Despite this catastrophe, not everyone wanted to flee the hot spot. One of the evacuees, Olga, said that her husband, a native of the ancient land, did not want to leave his homeland.
    — And my husband is a doctor. There were six surgeons in his hospital, now he is alone. They operate in the dark under the light of a flashlight, without anesthesia,” another woman manages to tell a snippet of her story.

    in reply to: West Asia front Thread, 11 Nov 2023 #21044
    Sudhi
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    “The collapse of Israel and the United States”
    by Thierry Meyssan
    https://www.voltairenet.org/article219991.html
    “For the first time, the world is witnessing a crime against humanity live on television. The United States and Israel, who have long since joined forces, will both be held responsible for the mass massacres in Gaza. Everywhere except Europe, Washington’s allies are withdrawing their ambassadors from Tel Aviv. Tomorrow, they will do the same in Washington. Everything is happening as it did when the USSR broke up, and it will end the same way: the American Empire’s very existence is threatened. The process that has just begun cannot be stopped.”

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