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Mr P.
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November 6, 2024 at 05:46 #45780
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November 6, 2024 at 08:04 #45792
Mr P
ParticipantComrade engineer Orlov with Nima…it ain’t over. He’s got a good point or two…
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November 6, 2024 at 08:56 #45794
Mr P
ParticipantEssay with some tasty bits… 😉
Project Ukraine unravelling as Zelensky touts risible ‘victory plan’ | The Communists
Project Ukraine unravelling as Zelensky touts risible ‘victory plan’
We should recall that the Ruskies have said quite explicitly the goal for the SMO, and reaffirmed the proposed (December 2021) NATO Treaty and Treaty with the US…NATO retreat especially, missiles out of the near abroad, etc.
I commend the Wilkerson interview with Nima from yesterday…which parallels the AM Radio propaganda in the US – to wit, that “Israel” massively disarmed Iran in the aborted attack, and that Russia has been defeated by “Ukraine”… despite the fact that at the professional level the western intel people report accurately, their reports are politically inverted at the Whitehouse level… then there are those B52’s in the ME… which seems to form the basis for a massive defeat of the west, which does not accept defeat – thus a mousetrap to nuclear attack by the western nazi force… Maybe.
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November 6, 2024 at 12:34 #45811
cronetoo
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November 6, 2024 at 12:45 #45812
cronetoo
ParticipantI attempted to delete my post above…not quick enough …
I’ve experienced a problem before in attempting an edit… is it possible to extend the time a tad to enable a deletion or edit by slower old folks?
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November 6, 2024 at 12:51 #45813
AHH
KeymasterExactly. It ain’t quite what most expected – orangeman made it to Election in one piece and an actual one was held.
But the fat lady hasn’t sung. He’s got to make it in at least one big piece by Jan 20 and even then zionazis and Pompeo and Rapturists infest his posse.
Perhaps they held off on the civil war front as the foreign policy is so FUBAR’ed and they do not quite have the resources or handle to manage both. Or he could be like Lula on Steroids — a “get out of jail” menu of catastrophes duly signed and ready to be unfurled on January 21
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November 6, 2024 at 15:05 #45817
Mr P
ParticipantOrlov pointed out it’s not over, millions of fake ballots may yet be created, er, “discovered”. I think he said that to Nima to-day. Then too, there are the possibilities of disqualification under amendment 14, para 3, iirc, and jail, etc. And some others, the senile creep may die suddenly, leaving the fake black female as prez, etc. Plan R, whatever, I’m not holding my breath, it’s just wrinkles in the river of Fate, the empire is screwed and in collapse. Actually Orange man makes the better clown act in the circus, looking at the process as dark comedy, or freak show. 😉 I too was surprised. Fine theater!
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November 6, 2024 at 16:35 #45818
Grieved
ParticipantPersonally, I take heart from this as an indication of the people of the US. In essence, the narrative became too ridiculous, too estranged from the realities of living that the US population faces, and with no one on the blue team talking about these issues. So they rejected all that, giving the red team a quasi-landslide, even with 15 million fewer voters, those who simply sat out this election.
I think this popular rejection is a force with a tangible effect on the political sensibilities of the day – I think it is possible at least that a lot of the catastrophe stacked up and ready to throw, may be held at bay by this sensibility of a popular will that wants a break from all the nonsense, and a focus on some issues.
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November 6, 2024 at 18:31 #45827
emersonreturn
Participantthe china academy
this is how china’s quantum computing can reshape our lives: part 2
https://chinaacademy.substack.com/p/this-is-how-chinas-quantum-computing-
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November 6, 2024 at 19:37 #45830
Mr P
ParticipantVeeerrrry innarrestin’ 😉
Wonder what they have on the Orange fella…fwiw he doesn’t impress me as a pervert, or a pederast – just ignorant & offensive fat guy.
Israel, Blackmail & the Presidents – Consortium News
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November 7, 2024 at 04:53 #45857
Mr P
ParticipantWell, many said at the time that it was stolen in 2020…
https://x.com/KitKlarenberg/status/1854464051503313117?t=CZBho0K-V8afiv9W1sEePQ&s=19

With Salt… There is a claim that 9 trucks loaded with fresh fake ballots filled out – 15 million of these – were stopped and seized as they entered Pennsylvania about 2 weeks ago. They were in some cases marked only with the vote for the vacuous
femaleslut, nothing else, and were flat, not folded, fresh from the printer. If true, that would account for the strange election of the senile creep by an anomalous number of “voters”. Long odds the claim is valid. 😉Another claim is that Barry and his boyfriend Mike ran off to parts unknown at 10PM on the 5th of November, outta da Country.
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November 7, 2024 at 04:56 #45859
Mr P
ParticipantBizzarowelt…
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November 7, 2024 at 05:01 #45860
Mr P
ParticipantLe commerce des choses entre l’Algérie et la France prend fin ?
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November 7, 2024 at 05:09 #45861
Mr P
ParticipantRoundtable of some thinking people, Kimberly, Wolff, and the rest. Long… but good questions are raised.
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November 7, 2024 at 05:31 #45865
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November 7, 2024 at 05:55 #45871
Mr P
ParticipantWaaalhow about that!
Maria Zakharova:
“The collapse of the German government coalition has exposed the main problem of the modern political system of the Germany – it is a classic “banana republic”. Not a single country in the world has started to reshuffle its own government based on the results of the US elections on the same day. Except Germany.”
Andy Rooney on 60 Minutes said that “Banana Republic” about the US when Bush-the Younger was “elected” in 2000. That’s long been disappeared from the ‘net…geewhiz, I wonder why…;) FWIW Stumpy says the deal was that Cheney had to be in charge for the demolitions in New York, since the explosives were already in place, the Enabling Acts prepared, and the PNAC wars planned – only by “electing ” Cheney could the crime scenes be managed and evidence and concealed and destroyed, and the the propaganda narrative be established.
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November 7, 2024 at 10:53 #45895
Mr P
ParticipantNima, Wolff and Hudson Nov 7…
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November 7, 2024 at 11:03 #45897
Mr P
ParticipantRight on que…
Radical Left Activates Anti-Trump Protests As AOC Riles Up Rioters | ZeroHedge
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November 7, 2024 at 11:26 #45902
Mr P
ParticipantNapolitano and CMD CMSgt Dennis Fritz : How Neocons Tricked Us
Frtiz saw and heard a lot…
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November 7, 2024 at 12:09 #45903
Sudhi
ParticipantVladimir Putin takes part in the plenary session of the XXI annual meeting of the Valdai International Discussion Club.
The main points:
– chaos and systemic crisis are growing in the Western countries themselves;
– greed and the desire for a monopoly on Western power is the real source of all the recent conflicts;
– Western “liberalism” has degenerated into an extreme intolerance of any sovereign and independent thought, for which it is ready to justify even mass genocide;
– Russia has repeatedly stopped those who were eager for world domination, and it will continue to do so.
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November 8, 2024 at 12:49 #46000
emersonreturn
Participantpepe & shah debate @ brics:
the most explosive geopolitical debate of 2024:
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November 8, 2024 at 14:15 #46014
Mr P
ParticipantWhatever the Orange fella may bring, it seems that the O’barky/Clinton faction called “Biden” means to do a big attack in coordination with the military base called “Israel” – big attack right away, on Iran, and thus mousetrap the Orange fella… imho the response will include Iran knocking together a few nukes pretty fast… whoooboy, major fubar! Orange, being an emotional cat, may really freak-out!
Stinks like treason, does it not?
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More nicer… Comrade Nixon has three livestreams just up, Comrade Joti, Gospodin Sleboda, and “Mystery voters and non-voters… enjoy!
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November 9, 2024 at 09:42 #46062
Mr P
ParticipantThe mad cow says> https://www.rt.com/news/607408-maddow-rt-us-media/
In general usage the network “PBS” is spoken of as “National Propaganda System” and Propaganda Broadcast System” already. (I’ve never watched the mad cow, but PBS did put on some good shows, Maigret, Morse, Rumpole” which were soft propaganda implying an imaginary UK and an imaginary old time pre-war France). We lost interest in broadcast US TV decades ago…
Indeed let the yanks have an RT…provided it’s straight as the real RT. Well, maybe even straighter, let it expose the actual culprits behind “9-11” for example, and cover the trials.
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November 9, 2024 at 09:54 #46065
Mr P
ParticipantNon-options are not taken… Smoothie speaks> https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2024/11/thats-plan.html
Excerpt> “European Union leaders are discussing whether they can afford to keep financing the Ukrainian military if US President-elect Donald Trump decides to pull Washington’s support for Kiev, Bloomberg reported on Friday. At a meeting in Budapest on Thursday, EU officials “held discussions on whether the bloc will be ready to foot the bill for the war,” th…”
The EU (what a name!) can’t do chit, they’re going broke, in the end their only “option” is re-structure and what emerges making a good treaty (treaties) with Russia. Messy process, ‘fraid so, but that’s the option. That’s what will happen.
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November 9, 2024 at 10:08 #46066
Mr P
ParticipantFrankly, I dislike Davis, well his attitude mostly, and this here ain’t quite yet been published…a few minutes away just now. Larry Johnson likes him, I guess… Anyway>
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November 9, 2024 at 12:59 #46072
emersonreturn
Participantxinhua: china news: science & tech
china launches new group of remote-sensing satellites
https://english.news.cn/2024/11/09/c4be50cb18d5449ab69bb960524c5d05/c.html
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November 9, 2024 at 13:07 #46073
Mr P
ParticipantGlen asks a question, 17 minutes… Professor Glenn Diesen speaking with President Vladimir Putin at Valdai Discussion Club (07.11.2024)
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November 9, 2024 at 20:43 #46091
emersonreturn
Participantthank you, Mr.P. from here i turned to dr karl & his tremendous translations of the speech. all good, thank you, dr karl, thank you, Mr. P. historical, indeed, truly!
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November 9, 2024 at 14:39 #46079
Mr P
ParticipantSorry, but it’s locals, I don’t know how to save the video…
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November 9, 2024 at 15:35 #46083
Mr P
ParticipantSome say the O’Barky and Mike and Hillary gang will mousetrap, or maybe “gift”, or even do what Orangefella woulda done/will do (who knows?), and try to waste Iran…maybe even call General Nukem. Well, nazi is as nazi does, if they do, it’d be an acceleration of the imperial fascist ruin. Remember Zhukov in Berlin fellas and pervs…
Meantime…
Hello President Kim… Putin signed a law ratifying the comprehensive strategic partnership agreement with North Korea.
🔴 @DDGeopolitics
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Ifin it’s Saudi, they better think about those oil tanks, pumps, pipeline, and wells…oh, wait, it’s probably too late…
DD Geopolitics
🇾🇪 NOW: Our Yemeni source reports 3 air strikes on the capital of Sana’a followed by a huge explosion.No word on who is targeting Yemen, thought the likely answer is Saudi.
🔴 @DDGeopolitics
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Officials say Qatar is suspending its Gaza mediation efforts between Israel and Hamas
➡️Qatar has decided to suspend its key mediation efforts between Hamas and Israel, officials said Saturday, after growing frustration with the lack of progress on a cease-fire deal for Gaza.
➡️It wasn’t immediately clear whether the remaining Hamas leadership hosted by Qatar must leave.
➡️However, Qatar is highly likely to return to the efforts if both sides show “serious political willingness” to reach a deal, according to an official with Egypt, the other key mediator.
🔴 @DDGeopolitics
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Spain, this evening.
People protesting against regional government because of its poor reaction and responsibility for recent catastrophic floods. Protest turned into violence.
Protesters filled the centre of Valencia demanding the resignation of regional government leader Carlos Mazon and chanting “Killers!”.
“Our hands are stained with mud, yours with blood,” read one banner. Some demonstrators dumped muddy boots outside the council building in protests.
Residents in stricken areas accuse Mazon of issuing an alert too late, at 8 p.m. on Oct. 29, well after water was already pouring into many nearby towns and villages.
The Valencian leader has said he would have issued an earlier alarm earlier if authorities had been notified of the seriousness of the situation by an official water monitoring body.🐻Borrell had more important tasks in Kiev.
🔴@DDGeopolitics
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Russian Army killed British mercenary
Callum Tindal-Draper was a former British Army soldier who was killed by Russian artillery on November 5th.
🔴@DDGeopolitics
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Air raid sirens sounded in Kiev and a number of regions in Ukraine:
🛸 Dnepropetrovsk region
🛸Kiev region
🛸 Kirovograd region
🛸 Odessa region
🛸 Poltava region
🛸Sumy region
🛸 Kharkov region
🛸 Cherkasy region
🛸Chernigov region
🛸 Kiev city🔴@DDGeopolitics
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Comedian Aamer Rahman and youtube channel “Fear of a Brown planet” bring you this video on Joe Biden’s bloody and racist legacy, “Scratch a Liberal and a Fascist Bleeds.”
“I think a political system that makes you choose between genocidal dementia and cheeseburger powered fake-tan Hitler is a system worth overthrowing”
🐻 Funny how the media never mentioned any of this when Biden was running, isn’t it?
🔴@DDGeopolitics
The youtube channel was unknown to me, it was always a “brown” planet.
https://www.youtube.com/@foabrownplanet
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November 9, 2024 at 18:16 #46085
Mr P
ParticipantRecalling that the nazi lie as easily as they breathe, better check up on the “laboratories” fellas!
Senior Russian lawmaker urges African countries to check US labs on their territory – Russian Politics & Diplomacy – TASS
https://tass.com/politics/1869991
“If you have US military biological laboratories or supposedly humanitarian laboratories – open these laboratories, go in and find out what they are actually doing there. Demand documentary confirmation of these experiments and tests and the collection of these viruses and pathogens being carried out on the territory of your sovereign countries,” she urged the African delegations. (State Duma Deputy Speaker Irina Yarovaya)
Yewbetcha! Ifin ah wuz y’all I’d bring armed cops along, and maybe handcuffs and bleach…
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November 9, 2024 at 19:57 #46087
Mr P
ParticipantGalloway, brief…
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November 9, 2024 at 20:08 #46088
Mr P
ParticipantTime to actually act according to good sense, Ruski say “show me”. But much can happen between now and inauguration – and that might be very bad stuff. Afterwards it can also be very bad too. US is on “probation”…
https://www.rt.com/russia/607413-russia-us-threat-diplomatic-ties/
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November 10, 2024 at 08:28 #46129
Mr P
ParticipantClassy lady> Maria Butina: Russia’s Iron Lady – CovertAction Magazine
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November 10, 2024 at 09:19 #46136
cronetoo
ParticipantMr P … thank you for all your contributions … most appreciated
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November 10, 2024 at 10:02 #46143
Mr P
ParticipantDear Cronetoo, Thanks! I’m flattered. I do what I’ve always done, nobody will repeat this history for us, so I read, save, share whatever strikes me as note-worthy…when I “worked” for the army I spent most of the days reading and taking notes. Used to bore my pals with it – they themselves were busy reading novels or getting stuff made for their boat, or motorcycle, (did you know that Schwinn made motorcycles? Yup, 61 cubic inch V twin…most of a “restored Schwinn 61” was made in an Army Depot! ) swapping jokes…or doing dope, or simply looking for things to steal. There were many good stories too. I miss those fellas, most are dead, I even miss the fellas I didn’t like.
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November 10, 2024 at 08:37 #46131
Mr P
ParticipantThe TRUTH On Russian Victory And Crimes Of Academia by US Nuclear Scientist | Prof. Ted Postol
an hour, and very recent. Ruski’s no bluffers…
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November 10, 2024 at 11:22 #46151
Mr P
ParticipantPostol’s a cool cat. Interesting personal history. FWIW the academy is permitted and captive, especially in a fascist capitalist state, for several reasons – one is that it is a prison where the sovereign keeps intellectuals that might otherwise challenge power. Postol doesn’t put it that way, my mother did – and that’s one reason I’m a retired craftsman, and not a retired professor! Postol’s more circumspect… 😉 but more or less confirms that opinion.
Back to his chat, two books for a lay reader about the bomb, one is free to download>
another, about the hydrogen bomb, which you’ll have to buy> (amazon, etc) https://archive.org/details/darksunmakingofh0000rhod_b5m7/mode/2up
Both dove-tail. They’re important. I urge everybody to read them, especially anybody that doesn’t take these infernal things seriously for what they really are.
Speaking of men who might have been retired professors, but chose craft and trades… is about the Trinity gizmo (primitive implosion Pu) and the “gun” design> see Coster Mullen’s Atom Bombs: The Top Secret, Inside Story of Little Boy and Fat Man.
Finally, some very dark humor> https://archive.org/details/dr-strangelove-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb
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November 10, 2024 at 13:03 #46167
Mr P
Participantcoincidence

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November 10, 2024 at 15:19 #46169
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November 10, 2024 at 17:36 #46181
amarynth
KeymasterHahahaaaaaa … the world contains protons, neutrons, electrons and morons.
What a science class!
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November 10, 2024 at 17:50 #46182
Mr P
ParticipantShe’s a wonderful gal! Yup, morons occur in vacuum, they say 😉 .
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Take this one with salt, yes I’m sure much of it’s true. But with salt, eh? BTW my great grandfather, who was in politics at the time, swore that the income tax amendment was fraudulently “ratified”, he knew a lotta key people back in the day, for a while he was one.
Jekyll Island: the Truth Behind the Federal Reserve (Documentary)
Jekyll Island: the Truth Behind the Federal Reserve (Documentary)
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November 11, 2024 at 00:23 #46192
Grieved
ParticipantI wanted to pass along this interview of CIA whistleblower Kevin Shipp by Candace Owens a couple of days ago. They talk about Mockingbird, Mossad and MK Ultra – what’s not to love? – and one gets a picture of the tip of the spear of the deep state, which is the 20% top layer of the CIA, murderous and uncaring of human life or popular governance, and devoted to criminality.
Completely fascinating, reinforcing of many things we already knew and assumed, but from an inside knowledge – and also very heartwarming, as we humans with our truth battle against the evil ones with their lies.
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There’s much here to appreciate here, but one 3-minute section gripped me particularly, the description of Charles Manson, the MK Ultra puppet, and the need to kill the overly peace-and-music hippie movement and start traumatizing the nation for war, because war is the moneymaker, and that’s what fuels the whole game.
So take a look at 31:10 – 33:15 where Candace talks about the MIC and its need to make sure the public is on its side, in order to do its thing, and how the false flag and the intense emotional overload work to persuade the population. It’s a small vignette that to my mind beautifully describes the mechanism.
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November 11, 2024 at 06:31 #46214
Mr P
ParticipantOrange zone – the proposal of a cop in position Orange – wholelotta stuff can happen before, if, Orange actually gets inaugurated. Everybody loves the circus, especially the freak shows and the geek > Clown World ™ 🤡 on X: “BREAKING: Trump announces Tom Homan as “Border Czar,” overseeing U.S. border security and deportations. 🔥 https://t.co/0KoOmyZlSF” / X
https://x.com/ClownWorld_/status/1855830148358283593
audio from the past> (August 2022)
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November 11, 2024 at 06:39 #46215
Mr P
ParticipantYCMTSU! I’m not sure this claim is valid, or that if it is, that it will actually take place…but I am sure that it’s very funny! Muster the clowns!
Alex Jones Accepts Trump’s Offer to Become New Press Secretary as Auction Looms | Headline USA
https://headlineusa.com/alex-jones-become-trump-press-sec/

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November 11, 2024 at 06:44 #46216
Mr P
ParticipantZone 404> US plans to remove ‘arrogant’ Zelensky and stage 2025 elections in Ukraine — SVR – Russian Politics & Diplomacy – TASS
add energy to a “moron” and generate a new “electron”!! These decay back into morons by releasing bad odors into space…
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November 11, 2024 at 07:06 #46217
Mr P
ParticipantAdding energy to morons, “pumping” morons in zone 404> CrossTalk Bullhorns: Tripping up Trump? — RT CrossTalk
The decay process of pumped morons, electrons, as these revert to morons, will release a great cloud of gas, mercaptans and worse! hazards can damage personal belongings and a building’s structure, as fluids and odors permeate all porous material.
https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/607434-trump-administration-palestine-ukraine-biden/
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November 11, 2024 at 07:18 #46218
Mr P
ParticipantHow NATO (and Art 5) was created…the military and political institutionalization of the west-nazi re-assault on USSR and the world…taking over from the krauts as most were either brought into the new-nazi zone or “re-habilitated” in Europe as agents…
Present at the creation; my years in the State Department : Acheson, Dean, 1893-1971
https://books.google.ru/books?id=OirSz3Wtaa0C&printsec=copyright&hl=ru#v=onepage&q&f=false
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November 11, 2024 at 08:58 #46233
cronetoo
ParticipantBernhard at MoA’s most recent:
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November 11, 2024 at 09:19 #46235
Mr P
ParticipantAn “armistice” is not a surrender, and what follows is not “peace”…what follows is betrayal and manipulation of memory, then exploitation. With that caveat>
Armistice Day: myth and reality | Morning Star
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/armistice-day-myth-and-reality
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November 11, 2024 at 10:03 #46236
Mr P
ParticipantBrother Uncle Ray and Napolitano>
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November 11, 2024 at 10:50 #46243
Mr P
ParticipantRay remarked in part of BSW in Kraut political sphere.
Anybody can get the newsletter by email. see> https://www.sahra-wagenknecht.de/
Bad translation of Frau Sara’s latest newsletter opening paragraph>
The traffic light has Germany in a severe crisis. Olaf Scholz, it should now ask the question of Trust and make way for a fresh start free. Anything else would be political insolvency. It makes stunned that the light at the end appears to be broken is that the SPD and the Green of the debt brake override wanted to be even more weapons to Ukraine to deliver – in a Situation where here in the Land bridges, and schools to rot and millions of pensioners in shameful poverty of life! Why do we finally have a stand-alone Au -Shen and security policy need , and why it would be madness, medium-range missiles in our country to deploy, via the use of an unpredictable man like Trump decides, I in my speech in the Bundestag stated
see> https://9o3q3.r.sp1-brevo.net/mk/mr/sh/1t6AVsd2XFnIGKAEYftnxxqS6ZUOHt/M7psFZ26adVx
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November 11, 2024 at 11:07 #46248
Mr P
ParticipantOctober 28, 2024. Dugin opinion>
The Imperative of Russian Power – by Alexander Dugin
excerpt> It is becoming evident that we live in a society where ideology is shifting — from liberal to Russian. This process cannot be stopped. It is not merely a decision by the authorities; it is the logic of time, a historical ultimatum.
We may something similar in the rest of the world, and even in America. The SMO has also changed America.
More> The Special Military Operation (SMO) has radically altered the ideological landscape in Russia. The era of neutral technocrats has ended; the era of ideological patriots has begun. A new type of official is emerging — governors, ministers, leaders. People of the state now regularly confront death, pain, horror, and the soul of the people. They can no longer operate solely through instructions and formal requirements while quietly engaging in corruption. They are part of history, and history demands agency, a choice driven by the heart. Thus, those in power must choose: are they with the elite caste or with the people? Are they on the side of war, taking an active part in it, or are they standing aside? Being a technocrat means choosing the latter. Otherwise, one must either change one’s worldview or openly adopt the established Russian views and stand with the Russian Cause.
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November 11, 2024 at 11:14 #46249
Mr P
ParticipantNapolitano and Larry… Kiev kicks the hornet’s nest…(I wonder if we’ll see somebody pull Zelensky’s head from a burlap sack)
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November 11, 2024 at 11:53 #46256
cronetoo
ParticipantWe may not have to wait too much longer … to determine what a hundred million dollars can buy …
So far the Widow Adelson appears to be getting her money’s worth …
Trump is a Trojan Horse …
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November 11, 2024 at 12:25 #46257
Mr P
ParticipantThe option set for Orange shrinks – the imperial military base called “Israel” is no longer a supportable base. Orange has no options save futility in that direction. He’s a ignorant as a hammer though, so he may spew and haruumph and simply look idiotic. 100 million notwithstanding, options define the possible. The Resistance took the options away and they’re not going to give them back.
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November 11, 2024 at 14:05 #46259
emersonreturn
Participantsprinter of sprinterfamily
erik prince’s latest threats against venezuela
https://x.com/SprinterFamily/status/1854618688957432083
oddly enough there are reports of a fire blazing in venezuela. musk, dumpster & prince already hard @ work
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November 11, 2024 at 20:40 #46266
Mr P
ParticipantFrogs have a bad day in zone 404>
Bloody Welcome: Freshly Arrived FRENCH Soldiers Were Wiped OUT in KHERSON┃RUS Captured KOLESNIKOVKA
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November 12, 2024 at 04:35 #46270
Mr P
Participantsee “Undersea Cable Map” > https://www.submarinecablemap.com/
There’s been chatter for some time about “funny business” in the “spirit of Nordstream Gas Pipeline” with respect to the cables.
And some of this is evidently based on real plans.
https://www.rt.com/russia/607490-us-uk-nordstream-attacks/
Near-shore cables are “armored” in various ways, as anchors and so forth may bang into them, even drag them and damage them. In the abyssal depths they’re not well protected. iirc abyssal zone is, roughly, below 100 meters. Any organisation with the will to do so and a budget and a modicum of technical ability can ruin a cable. These days most submarines can operate at – 300 meters, some far deeper.
The dubius and generally hyperbolic police informer agent > (take with salt) https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/flash-urgent-us-uk-to-blow-up-undersea-internet-cables
If Nikolay Patrushev @ RT hadn’t mentioned it, I’d not have referred to Hal the Fink, but it does seem to be an “option” being considered. Cutting of the lateral streams of data between the people would, or might, enhance the Mockingbirds of propaganda and system of opinion control. It would also have disastrous effects on commerce.
(I have always thought it was an error to shut down the big high frequency (aka HF) AM radio transmitters from the post-WW2 era)
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November 12, 2024 at 11:57 #46307
AHH
Keymaster
When narratives fail.. when Defeats can no longer be hidden.. when sufficient commerce has taken place among the opposing heavyweights in their own currencies & using their SWIFT alternatives rendering crashing the global economy non-fatal.. when conventional escalation is nigh exhausted due to bare armories and attrited nazi proxies.. and so onthe roads outside get unpaved fast and moats get filled in a hurry and the boiling oil and heavy rocks gets hoisted quick onto the well-maintained High Walls — but for the captives that may try to storm OUT, no??
What times!
But can this approach work for “the boy in the bubble”?
I start to see the subtle long calculation of the civilizational-states.. they’ve left them no choice but in the desperate process of maintaining [at least internal] power to enact the very necessary actions conducive to sealing themselves off and thus irrevocable liberation for the Global Majority. If only there weren’t WMDs!!!
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ParticipantFollowing the trend, if we call it a trend, more the prospect, of interruptions in cables, also a division in oceanic shipping, one that’s developing and real.
Sal the Clueless Sailorman>Spain Refuses to Dock US-flagged Containership MV Maersk Denver Over Protests About Israel
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November 12, 2024 at 05:41 #46273
Mr P
ParticipantTwo of my favorite marxist intellectuals, fine avunclear gentelmen. A 3 + hours dialogue… 😉
The thalassocratic method, rule by or of the sea (via choke-points, and shippping, and these days information choke (cables and to a small extent satellites) – the basic imperial agency), must necessarily decline with the Fall of the West, which is defined by colonial (and largely “racist”) imperialism (although imho the “racism” is created by rationalization necessary to justify the imperialist lust). In due course the Seas will become genuinely free again, as the Civilizational and Moral global community becomes dominant. In this phase of Conflict, the Seas are zones of contention and probably violence, possibly actual sinking of Capital vessels, such as aircraft and missile carriers, as well as cargo ships – note that a few cargo ships have already been sunk, and western naval warships struck and damaged.
Richard Wolff & Michael Hudson: Karl Marx and the Fall of the West
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November 12, 2024 at 05:43 #46274
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ParticipantWas Amsterdam a Mossad Operation?, by Mike Whitney – The Unz Review
If the odor’s there, it was.
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November 12, 2024 at 05:58 #46277
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ParticipantAlbion and the nazis Strike!
UK Column on X: “Well, @YouTube strikes again. Another takedown—our entire channel removed, along with the ‘Fighting the Censors’ video. The irony… Some say, ‘Forget YouTube,’ but this is an information war, and we’re not backing down. Independent news media, if you want to join us in this https://t.co/UW41BgmEkZ” / X
https://x.com/ukcolumn/status/1856258846559207443?t=LwflgaGA-0oeeabjmTj5LA&s=19
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November 12, 2024 at 06:00 #46278
Mr P
ParticipantDumbazz Orange takes instruction…
Trump Meets With Netanyahu’s Consultant to Discuss Middle East – Reports
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November 12, 2024 at 06:33 #46283
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ParticipantRogue nazi client fascist Chinese island makie bigbig Orange mistake…gunna buy targets…arouse Big Dragon.
Taiwan Mulls Massive $15BN Arms Package To Signal Trump It’s ‘Serious’ About Defense
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November 12, 2024 at 06:50 #46292
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ParticipantDas Endgultige Satiremagain
huuum kommt dir bekannt vor. Aber dieses Mal sind sie hartnackiger.Abzug der USA aus der Ukraine erinnert an etwas.
or> The definitive satire magazine
huuum sounds familiar. But this time they are more persistent.
The US withdrawal from Ukraine reminds us of something(me too!)

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November 12, 2024 at 07:30 #46300
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ParticipantDingbat deranged blond innocent of History and Geography https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/129681
Kaja Kallas, ( “Estonian MEP Kaja Kallas named as one of the most powerful (? and ignorant!) women in Brussels”) a candidate for the post of EU diplomatic [?] chief, said she considers China a ‘systemic adversary’ of the European Union and called to make it pay a higher price for supporting Russia, she said at a hearing in the European Parliament, following which she is expected to be confirmed for the post.
‘China’s policy has changed in recent years. It is now a competitor and a systemic adversary,’ she emphasised, calling for reducing the EU’s “dependence” and reducing the risks of relations with China. ‘Without China’s support, Russia will not be able to continue the conflict in Ukraine, so China must also feel the rising price of its policies,’ she argued.
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November 12, 2024 at 07:37 #46301
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ParticipantGeewhiz, what a coincidence! Solidarity among the old nazi gang!
Oder>
Meine Güte, was für ein Zufall, Solidarität unter der alten Nazi-Gang!
Western states oppose UN motion condemning Nazism — RT World News
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November 12, 2024 at 10:18 #46304
Mr P
ParticipantThe nazi gang lost a fella…

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November 12, 2024 at 13:48 #46318
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ParticipantKrauts send Ruski ultimatum…waaalllhowaboutdat!
November 12
Dmitry Medvedev𝘌𝘶𝘳𝘰𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘯 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢 𝘴𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘭 𝘣𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘬𝘥𝘰𝘸𝘯 𝘢𝘧𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘛𝘳𝘶𝘮𝘱’𝘴 𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘺. 𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘨𝘰𝘢𝘭 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘱𝘶𝘴𝘩 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘧𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘵 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘙𝘶𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘢 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘰 𝘢𝘯 𝘪𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘨𝘦. 𝘖𝘯𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘍𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘪𝘴 𝘴𝘲𝘶𝘢𝘸𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘴𝘶𝘱𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘒𝘪𝘦𝘷 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘈𝘮𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘢 𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘱𝘴 𝘣𝘢𝘤𝘬; 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘯𝘦𝘹𝘵, 𝘕𝘈𝘛𝘖 𝘣𝘰𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘸𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘰𝘧𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 ‘𝘸𝘪𝘴𝘥𝘰𝘮’ 𝘣𝘺 𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘤𝘶𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘩𝘰𝘸 𝘵𝘰 𝘦𝘴𝘤𝘢𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘧𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘶𝘴 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘧𝘶𝘳𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳.
𝘕𝘰𝘸, 𝘎𝘦𝘳𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘺’𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘭𝘭𝘰𝘳 𝘤𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘥𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘔𝘦𝘳𝘻 𝘪𝘴 𝘫𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘶𝘭𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘮𝘴. 𝘏𝘪𝘴 𝘮𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘢𝘨𝘦? 𝘌𝘪𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘦𝘯𝘥 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘚𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘔𝘪𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘺 𝘖𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯, 𝘰𝘳 𝘐’𝘭𝘭 𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘛𝘢𝘶𝘳𝘶𝘴 𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘭𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘜𝘬𝘪𝘦𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘯𝘦𝘹𝘵 𝘥𝘢𝘺. 𝘖𝘣𝘷𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴𝘭𝘺, 𝘴𝘶𝘤𝘩 ‘𝘶𝘭𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘮𝘴’ 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘦𝘭𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨. 𝘊𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘭𝘺, 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘭𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘰𝘯’𝘵 𝘧𝘶𝘯𝘥𝘢𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘭𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘧𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘵’𝘴 𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘫𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘺. 𝘚𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘴𝘪𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘺 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘭𝘰𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘉𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘨𝘪𝘮𝘦. 𝘞𝘩𝘢𝘵’𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨, 𝘩𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳, 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘥𝘦𝘱𝘭𝘰𝘺𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘶𝘤𝘩 𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘭𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘴𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘪𝘧𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘧𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘵 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘵𝘴 𝘮𝘰𝘴𝘵 𝘥𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘱𝘩𝘢𝘴𝘦, 𝘢𝘴 𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘗𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘴 𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘯𝘦𝘥.
𝘐𝘵’𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘢𝘳𝘬𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦, 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺, 𝘩𝘰𝘸 𝘦𝘢𝘨𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘰𝘥𝘢𝘺’𝘴 𝘌𝘶𝘳𝘰𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘯𝘴 𝘴𝘦𝘦𝘮 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘪𝘯𝘷𝘪𝘵𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘳 𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘰𝘸𝘯 𝘴𝘰𝘪𝘭. 𝘕𝘰𝘵𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘺, 𝘥𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘰 𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘦𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘈𝘮𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘯𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘨𝘰𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘴𝘩𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘰𝘸𝘯 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦. 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘷𝘢𝘤𝘤𝘪𝘯𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘞𝘰𝘳𝘭𝘥 𝘞𝘢𝘳 𝘐𝘐 𝘴𝘦𝘦𝘮𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘯 𝘰𝘧𝘧 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘺. 𝘌𝘶𝘳𝘰𝘱𝘦’𝘴 𝘴𝘮𝘢𝘳𝘵, 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘥 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘨𝘰𝘯𝘦, 𝘳𝘦𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘤𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘱𝘢𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘤 𝘧𝘪𝘨𝘶𝘳𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘧𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘦𝘨𝘰𝘴. 𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘰, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘵-𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘴𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘢𝘳𝘪𝘰 𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘴 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘰𝘰 𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦.
Some “Taurus missiles” are nuclear. Fine, whatchagunna do next?

Meantime, nazis not allowed to stay in the Black sea…get out mofo!
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ParticipantLittle game of rabbits…
Netanyahu FLEE TEL AVIV as CHAOS HIT IDF Following Mass Resignation
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November 12, 2024 at 14:11 #46323
Mr P
ParticipantNapolitano and Col K. Kwiatkowski
What If Trump Goes Neocon? (“if”?, y’all gotta ‘member Orange is a foolish uneducated specimen, innocent of history, languages, cultures geography and religions. He may be courageous, but that’s useless , even dangerous, without knowledge. Yes, the slut was also ignorant and dangerous, and probably a coward too. Looks like bigbigwar either way )
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November 12, 2024 at 16:17 #46324
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ParticipantMacGregor gives us a gloomy assessment of Trump Administration foreign policy. It looks like we are headed straight for war with Iran, followed by Russia.
Bummer, Dude!
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November 12, 2024 at 21:09 #46348
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ParticipantComrade Garland and uncle Ray… Both fine gentlemen and a pleasure to hear. To-day, about 6 hours ago…
Me? I do not imagine that US-Rus relations will thaw until after the bombs drop, fly, detonate, or whatever those things do. If I lived in a drop zone I’d be thinking really hard about packing up and heading upwind…the drop zones are in Europe and America…of course “thawing” occurs with the heat of the sun. They say the nuclear heat is in that same range… T. Postol recently spoke about that, and Comrade Medvedev made a oblique reference about worst case being the most probable, didn’t he?
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November 12, 2024 at 22:58 #46350
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ParticipantInside China Business is back, after a couple weeks absent. His latest is about gold, its price rise and physical relocation, as always, from west to east. And this is physical gold, not paper – when Morgan said only gold was money, he meant the bullion in your vault, not the gold held by paper, which, like all currency, is just debt.
Experts are baffled – which is what experts do nowadays on everything, and I always have to chuckle when I hear that phrase – as to what accounts for the surges, but our man explains it tidily for us:
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November 13, 2024 at 05:17 #46353
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ParticipantPatrushev cited the US campaign against the Yemen-based Houthi group, saying it is officially aimed at protecting maritime shipping but is in fact a “smokescreen” for plans to provoke regional escalation. He suggested the destabilisation strategy is aimed at putting pressure on major consumers such as China and India, paving the way for a larger share of the global energy market.
“The West sees sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines as one of many methods to advance its economic interests. They can also attack other infrastructure facilities, including underwater fiber-optic cables that provide communications around the world,” Patrushev said.
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November 13, 2024 at 05:25 #46355
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ParticipantHonestly, the fellas seem to me to be clinging to a futile hope, bluntly, naive. Nevertheless…
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November 13, 2024 at 05:30 #46356
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Participanthttps://x.com/Vwadi007/status/1856604956226150804?t=_DC4QNYryvAiks61hgIl4Q&s=19
Ich probiere es mal mit Mathe:
Merz wird Kanzler + Pistorius „ersetzt“ Scholz + Habeck und Baerbock bleiben + Trump zieht sich zurück = DE und die EU werden im Krieg mit Russland sein.
Nur weil wir uns das nicht vorstellen können heißt es nicht, dass es nicht passieren wird.
Deswegen wurde die Ampel gekippt
Deswegen gibt es Neuwahlen
Deswegen kommt Merz
Deswegen wurde die EU gegründet
Deswegen werden in Deutschland US Krankenhäuser gebaut
Deswegen wurde die NATO gegründet
Deswegen werden in Deutschland weitere US Waffen stationiert
Deswegen sitzt die NATO in Stuttgart und Rostock
Deswegen brüllen die Grünen nach Waffen und wollen mitspielen
Deswegen wurde dem Militär 100Mrd. pro Jahr zugesichert
Deswegen muss die Ukraine als „Hub“ herhalten
Deswegen sitzt die USA in Ramstein
Deswegen werden die Autobahnen repariert
Deswegen gab es die NATO Osterweiterung
Deswegen sind US Atomwaffen z.B. in Wiesbaden
Deswegen wurde jeder Vertrag vom Westen gebrochen
Deswegen sind Georgien, Rumänien und Moldawien so wichtig
Deswegen trommelt Polen so laut
Deswegen erfindet der WerteWesten ständig neue Werte
Deswegen 24/7 Propaganda
Deswegen bereiten man DE mental darauf vor indem Wörter wie „Krieg“ „Bundeswehr“ „Ostflanke“ „Russland“ „Böse“ usw. ständig durch die Medien verknüpft werden.
usw. usw.NICHTS passiert zufällig! Der Plan ist über 100 Jahre alt. Sie machen es nur deswegen in kleinen Schritten, damit ihr mitspielt.
Schaut nicht auf die Details und die Ablenkungen – schaut aufs Ganze, und dann überlegt euch wer wirklich euer Feind ist.
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I’ll try the math:
Merz becomes chancellor + Pistorius “replaces” Scholz + Habeck and Baerbock stay + Trump withdraws = Germany and the EU will be at war with Russia.
Just because we can’t imagine it doesn’t mean it won’t happen.
That’s why the traffic light coalition was overturned
That’s why there are new elections
That’s why Merz is coming
That’s why the EU was founded
That’s why US hospitals are being built in Germany
That’s why NATO was founded
That’s why more US weapons are being stationed in Germany
That’s why NATO is based in Stuttgart and Rostock
That’s why the Greens are clamoring for weapons and want to play along
That’s why the military was given 100 billion euros. per year
That’s why Ukraine has to serve as a “hub”
That’s why the USA is based in Ramstein
That’s why the highways are being repaired
That’s why NATO expanded eastwards
That’s why US nuclear weapons are in Wiesbaden, for example
That’s why every treaty has been broken by the West
That’s why Georgia, Romania and Moldova are so important
That’s why Poland is drumming so loudly
That’s why the values-based West is constantly inventing new values
That’s why there’s 24/7 propaganda
That’s why Germany is mentally preparing for this by constantly linking words like “war”, “Bundeswehr”, “eastern flank”, “Russia”, “evil” etc. through the media.
etc. etc.NOTHING happens by chance! The plan is over 100 years old. They’re only doing it in small steps so that you’ll play along.
Don’t look at the details and the distractions – look at the whole picture, and then think about who your enemy really is.
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