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    • #35184
      AHH
      Keymaster






    • #35231
      Mr P
      Participant

      The Secret History of Lead

      People say, and sometime joke, that the reason for the aggressive and irrational cadre of western fascists includes “something in the air”.  (Not just “depleted” Uranium!)

      And we recall that previous empires also went a little funny in the head, with mercury for the Victorians, and lead for the Romans. They say the Romans found it profitable to “sugar” sour wine with lead acetate, and the rich used lead pipe for potable water. Lead also makes for useful alloys, including with tin and zinc, and the silver…the Dinar was mostly lead near the end of empire.

      But what about, for example, Hollywood,Southern California, and the Eastern cities?

      (It’s popular to blame paint, but it’s a diversion when they do…it’s mostly due to the gasoline, and profit…)

      Thus an innarrestin’ story… Thomas Midgley https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/secret-history-lead/ Midgley poisoned the entire planet.

      I’m not kidding, the neurologic effect s are with us all… and they lead to irrational violence.

    • #35244
      cronetoo
      Participant
      • #35264
        K
        Participant

        Sorry this is reply to Mr P on lead:  Definitely and its how the poor people always live beside major highways, toxic industry and agriculture and the like,  and the well of get as far away as possible from all of these including the poor. I don’t see paint as a diversion but a subset of the highly profitable industry of poisoning all life. Military-Industrial-Chemical-Medical-Pharamacetical-Agricultural etc
        Personally i can only use low toxic paint or i get headaches for months after from the off gassing.  They claim low VOC but the worst poisons are odourless. That said house paint has improved to a degree but its still mostly composed of plastic. Home made Lime render and the like  is a better alternative but people don’t have time for such and you can’t lime wash plasterboard.

        • #35270
          Mr P
          Participant

          Thanks Mr K!

          “diversion” in the rhetorical sense, as the chatter always blames kids for pica, eating the chips, and these days it’s put into “that was then, now we’re so much safer and the problems are being properly solved”, etc etc. Of course, and I agree, lead is lead. What’s interesting in the article lies in the latter portions, the political intrigues, the money over quality and morality. I  read the article when it came out, years ago… and interestingly, it was difficult to find…

          Capital blames the poor for being poor. They even say the poor deserve it.

          The same sort of distractions and obfuscation and political influences  that they used for TEL they use to-day for DU. Indeed, a Policy of crapping on everybody.

          DU, btw, like lead, is harmless, unless you get some inside. They use that to deceive. The whole point of DU is to get it inside people. In the 1950’s the big “secret” (I have read) at DC cocktail parties was “dusting”… spreading radioactive material on a region… on purpose. Now they do precisely that. Just as they did with Pb. The decay sequence includes some very hot periods, too. And ends…get this, with lead! (after a very long time)

          Lime wash works totally bitchen! And cheap!

          I admit though, I have worked with plenty of lead and asbestos, and even plutonium oxide, and radioactive cobalt… that I know about. As a kid I cast lead quite a bit. And was on rifle teams, in unvented ranges, doing lots of shooting. In my little workshop I went to considerable effort to create proper extractive ventilation in my “paint department”…which exhausts also volatile fumes as well as filters and catches overspray. I paint very seldom though. Run the machinery for removing welding smoke, and soldering fumes (lead/tin solder!)… again, not very often. But it keeps things from getting nasty with dust of GKW (god knows what).

          Many of my cohort in my working years did refinery work, and a few were blown to bits or burned to a crisp. Refineries don’t give a damn about the fitters and wrights. They lie like they breathe. I almost never accepted refinery work, though refinery by-product, petroleum coke machinery (contaminated with catalyst and a greasy carbon dust, sorta like coal.) I did for a few years.They ship it to Korea where they use it in power generation and steel making. The contamination is useful in steel making, nickle, mostly, I think.

          I have used stucco on plasterboard. It makes a pretty swirling, artistic surface, and stucco is not chemically far from lime. 😉

          Our digs need paint on the outside, badly. I just don’t relish either spending money or screwing with paint! (though I did buy a nice airless spray rig, still new, still unused,, ten years ago….)

          If, as many expect, the nazis use atomic weapons, they’ll crap on everybody even more. It’s one of the ways you can identify nazis.

          • #35273
            Mr P
            Participant

            adding the wiki.

            following the chemistry>

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead

            Note that the lead is prevented from accumulating by the use of two pretty nasty solvents. What’s not said is that the H2O produced reacts with these in the combustion and forms bromic acid, (iirc) and some other acids. These ruin the lubricating oil as they leak into the crankcase past the piston rings. They are very corrosive to the bearings and to the cylinder walls. That’s to say that as a practical matter engines  using TEL wore out quickly. I remember too, 50,000 miles was typical. Money money money and screw the working poor people.

    • #35248
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      Let’s try this cronetoo. The link does not work.

      https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/analysis/does–israel–want-war

    • #35253
      cronetoo
      Participant

      Thank you Amarynth !

    • #35256
      cronetoo
      Participant

      Middle Nation’s Shahid Bolsen has a couple of interesting podcasts or vid clips (whatever the term is!)

      This is one … imo

       

    • #35262
      Mr P
      Participant

      I think somebody is laying out a deception for some political reasons.

      see> https://www.ae911truth.org/

      It was a zionist inside job, plain and simple, Cheney up to his ears in the gag. The explosives were patented and marketed by Sandia Labs.

      In a confidence game, which it was and is, it’s important to make sure the crime leads in many directions. Sure there were probably some Saudis in the game, but it was Mossad and the US nazi cadre.  Like JFK and Pearl Harbor, a crime so deep that it has to be covered up, and the evidence destroyed.

      The physics alone point to the guilty organisation, and persons…the chemistry cinches it. I saw the Sandia nanothermite/thermate advertisement myself at the time. And I have personal experience with thermite, hundreds of pounds of it. The energy release is far greater than TNT, pound for pound. (and it’s great fun too!)

       

    • #35263
      cronetoo
      Participant

      Mr P,

      I totally agree my friend … totally.

    • #35274
      Mr P
      Participant

      Comrades Garland and Joti discuss the elections… https://youtu.be/-ZsSj1fu9zM

      decadent capitalism episode 17

    • #35310
      Mr P
      Participant

       

      The CIA and Zionism: A Complex History

      With a combination of candor and tact, Halevy told me about Angleton and his Jewish friends who knit together U.S.and Israeli intelligence services in the 1950s. Their bond grew into the strategic alliance between the United States and Israel, which has been tested many times over the years, and now again by the Oct. 7 attack. (sic) [for “attack” read “stand back and let it happen set-up”]

      nazi cowboys mossad and cia

       

      https://www.spytalk.co/p/the-cia-and-zionism-a-complex-history?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=81003&post_id=144187383&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=222q5&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

      …The U.S. Intelligence Board, which reviewed CIA operations on behalf of the White House, recommended the agency “expeditiously disseminate all information” on the Israeli nuclear program to the rest of the government, for the sake of upholding President John F. Kennedy’s policy of nuclear non-proliferation in the Middle East.  

      Angleton simply ignored the recommendation. JFK’s successor, Lyndon Johnson, cared less about nuclear proliferation and relaxed U.S. demands for on-site inspection of Dimona, which Israel insisted was only a research facility.

       In 1965, Angleton learned from an FBI liaison officer, Sam Papich, that the Bureau and the Atomic Energy Commission were investigating the disappearance of several hundred pounds of fissile material from a uranium enrichment facility in Penn…

    • #35311
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      This was several tests — kindly ignore — they are gone now.

      Here goes another:  Yeah, it goes poof!  Done with this messy stuff for now.

       

       

    • #35325
      Sudhi
      Participant

      Michael Hudson:
      We Need a New Political Vocabulary

      The Need for a New Political Vocabulary

      • #35327
        Mr P
        Participant

        Comparing Dr Hudson’s Political Vocabulary essay to the discussion Joti Brar did in E#17 Decadent Capitalism. 

        The doctor’s position, argument, seems valid enough, I can’t disagree. But Brar’s statements were stronger, and, I think more to the point. More or less what westvolk are presented with are “choices” between costumed fascists, all under the sway and control of the same dark force… more or less between Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee. Brar goes further too, and points out that the volk are now withdrawing their consent, their willingness to suspend disbelief…which is a prerequisite to realization of class identity and unification in a pre-revolutionary unity against the ruling class of westworld. The “Us and them” phase. Hudson does recognize that the names are deceptive, so we may say he too is withdrawing his consent to suspend disbelief. Quite properly too.

        • #35328
          AHH
          Keymaster

          thanks for that link to garland/joti – I think Grieved also linked to it recently. I had ignored it initially since I avoid elections and such politics of bread & circuses, but your repeated linking by both got me to finally listen. One of their best. I couldn’t stop listening to the end.  It really packs a punch through to the end. They both mused cogently through the sea change in the west, the “pre-revolutionary” moment.

          There comes a time when the greatest most cherished delusions can no longer be indulged. When the middle class has visibly collapsed around you and the chickens come home to roost and the criminals in charge are pulling the plug on the entire contrived ‘western project’ one has to exit La La Land, if only to stay sane and dodge falling meteors.

          Among the sharp breeze clearing the fumes of Hollywood and other narratives are what Smoothie tonight refers to Hanging in Shame. Even more than 404, Gaza is the most terrible mirror of all. Even drugs and booze cannot erase such stain. Everybody knows the US military funds, arms, leads and mans key bases and missions in occupied Palestine. With all that entails in perpetuity, not to mention ongoing despair and withdrawal

    • #35326
      Mr P
      Participant

      The curse of the nazi touch, hug, embrace… do we smell sulphur… 

      nazi touch curse

       

    • #35334
      Mr P
      Participant

      Hanging in Shame indeed! Murdering the POW is about as basic to the US ways of knowing and doing war as army boots. In https://archive.org/details/iheardyoupaintho0000bran Frank Sheeran describes his part in the invasion of Italy, murdering captured or surrendered Germans. (And later murdering his “best friend” Hoffa).

      The US in WW2 and in Vietnam, or in the Philippines in the late 19th century, or against the Red Indians…

      Speaking of murdering prisoners though, Interview with Lyudmila Bentley, the wife of the murdered American volunteer “Texas”

      Part one of three> https://t.me/putingers_cat/10773  (It’s pretty clear what happened, read all three parts) I note that the suspects, which include at least one officer, are not walking around. That makes a stark difference between the ways of knowing and doing, and the moral character.

    • #35336
      Mr P
      Participant

      Recalling that the pathetic creep says he’s a black woman and running the world…

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/06/joe-biden-neurologist-doctor-meeting

      Parkinson’s expert at Walter Reed medical center has visited White House eight times since August 2023 

      and https://www.parkinson.org/understanding-parkinsons/non-movement-symptoms/hallucinations-delusions

      Between 20-40% of people with Parkinson’s report the experience of hallucinations or delusions.

      When followed as the disease progresses over the years, this number increases. 

      Well, geewhiz, what can go wrong… I mean two idiots principle cubed and squared!

    • #35350
      AHH
      Keymaster

    • #35353
      Mr P
      Participant

      The rehabilitation of the fake black chick proceeds…

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/07/07/biden-harris-trump-2024/

      Should Biden step aside, something he has vowed not to do, putting Harris at the top of the ticket presents the quickest and most logical way for Democrats to regroup. Some polling also suggests she might fare slightly better against Trump…Biden doomsday scenarios are everywhere, except in the vicinity of Harris. She has been the most loyal — and effective — of Biden’s allies in this fight. In a combative interview with CNN’s [sic] (read CIA operative) Anderson Cooper just minutes after the debate, she didn’t cede a millimeter: “I’m not going to spend all night with you talking about the last 90 minutes when I’ve been watching the last 3½ years of performance.” harris

      Musing about the nazi Policy the fallacy of sunk costs arises.

      https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339337433_The_Sunk_Cost_Fallacy_A_Literature_Review_and_an_Empirical_Test

      One consideration for Truman and the use of the atomic bomb was that if he did not use it all the money spent would have been said to have been wasted….

      Examples zone 404 and nazi policy>

      American Conquest by Subversion: Victoria Nuland’s Admits Washington Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”

      Victoria Nuland croaks out the cant and lies like she breathes….

      Since 1991 we’ve invested over five billion dollars for a “democratic Ukraine”  https://archive.org/details/victoria-nuland-ukrainians-deserve-for-respect-from-their-government-480p-30fps-h-264-128kbit-aac

       

       

    • #35376
      cronetoo
      Participant
      • #35382
        AHH
        Keymaster

        All what Crooke says may be true. But i was thinking on this just earlier today! There may be a deeper con.

        You know how I detest western elections and kabuki at democracy. What Larry Romanoff succinctly termed a perverse deceptive religion established by Anglo-Zionists to overturn the old hereditary medieval european aristocracy whilst retaining their suffocating class control. [01] [02]

        Why deliberately overturn such a profitable con? Rockefeller’s 2010 four scenarios laid out the controlled demolition job, starting with covid. A total global delegitimization of modern political processes, and RETURN to monarchical rule under the AntiChrist.

        The more I understand the Chinese, Russian and most acutely Iranian forms of democracy, the more I realize why they delegitimize the entire process. These processes not only work in the lands of their enemies, but give stability and strength! So these are aimed as much against the civilizational-states… to so make a mockery of ALL parliamentary processes as to raise doubts and throw into chaos the main targets..

        The only chance the enemies of mankind stand to submit their chief obstacles to total full spectrum domination, short of catastrophic Armageddon, is internal subversion. For this they will sacrifice all useful props, as already done with the USD and banking havens, MSM, Big Pharma and Medical Cartel and WHO, the UN, NGOs, etc etc.

        And of course, in the bitter End Times, of a single global village with a single global ruler under the Noahide Laws, a side benefit will be it is easier to rule from a single iron throne like in the good old days of Rome and Babylon.

    • #35400
      Mr P
      Participant

      Napolitano and Larry discuss matters, and Larry says of the genocide in Gaza, that nothing on this scale has happened before in his lifetime. He may be wrong about that., but I’m unsure about his age.

      In 1965-66…………..

      “German and U.S.-backed Indonesian Army and paramilitary groups used an attempted coup as a pretext to murder up to three million suspected communists. For the first time ever, a redfish investigation exposes the role of the German government.”  https://archive.org/details/indonesias-1965-genocide-germanys-unknown-war-against-communism

      and/or

      https://jacobin.com/2021/01/indonesia-anti-communist-mass-murder-genocide

      and/or

      The Indonesia Genocide (1965-66): Evidence of active support of the slaughter by the U.S.

    • #35475
      Sudhi
      Participant

      Why the “Englishwoman shits”
      by Dmitry Orekhov
      https://m.vz.ru/opinions/2024/7/7/1273641.html

      …What can I say? Hate and contempt are bad teachers. In the last hundred years, the most powerful empire in the world has been blown away to a small country, whose entire brave army will now fit in London’s Wembley Stadium. The Englishman has intrigued a lot, but more and more often he himself remains a fool; the Russian has been deceived many times, but gradually gets smarter. Our current turn to the East is related to our gradual recovery: we are learning to act and think in a new way. And we didn’t have any hatred for the British, and we don’t have any. As for the attitude of the British towards Russia, it is unlikely that it will ever change. On this occasion, a sad anecdote from the British Isles.

      An English soldier bayoneted an Irishman. The Irishman dies slowly in the gutter, and the soldier occasionally kicks him with his boot. On his last breath, the dying man gets up and asks:: “Why do you hate us so much?” The Englishman leans over and says through gritted teeth, ” And you don’t get it yet?! We will never forgive you for what we did to you!”

      • #35496
        emersonreturn
        Participant

        thank you, dear sudhi.    ‘we will never forgive you for what we did to you!’

        fortunately, the rest of humanity will soon isolate the demented.  it will take eons to free themselves entirely, sticks & stones & starvation will aid the re-discovery of fire, its sacred danger & power.

        putin has been compared to peter the great; where peter brought europe to russia, putin is returning her to eurasia.  eurasia: the treasury & tapestry of all the richness of the russian culture which eludes the west.  the inexplicable lush subtly of shostakovich, the singularity of the kremlin’s turrets, gogol’s piquancy, her dancing cossacks or the discipline & epiphany of the bolshoi’s’ swan lake is reduced to gymnastics orchestrated to music, the ice capades sans skates, the nuance of the position of the finger or toe in relation to the cosmic is deemed arbitrary.

    • #35476
      Mr P
      Participant

      I had forgotten these, which may be of interest, a charming collection, well, sweet an’ sour…

      https://tucradio.org/

      https://archive.org/details/michael-parenti

       

    • #35561
      Sudhi
      Participant

      Despite irritating US, India deepens Russia ties, embraces multipolarity
      By S.L. Kanthan
      https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202407/1315627.shtml?id=11

      Russia-India: A Particularly Privileged Strategic Partnership
      By Karl Sanchez
      Results of Modi-Putin Summit and Joint Statement:
      https://karlof1.substack.com/p/russia-india-a-particularly-privileged?utm_source=post-banner&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true

    • #35611
      Mr P
      Participant

      Sacrebleu ! Yet another remarkable “renovation” coincidence! https://www.rt.com/news/600861-gothic-cathedral-catches-fire-rouen/

      The Gothic Notre-Dame de Rouen has had the tallest church spire in France, soaring over 150 meters above the ground.

      ….and what pray tell 😉 does coincidence theory say of this?

    • #35656
      Sudhi
      Participant

      Trajectory to Armageddon –
      by Aleks
      https://bmanalysis.substack.com/p/trajectory-to-armageddon-i?utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
      The End of the West or
      the End of the World ?

    • #35666
      Mr P
      Participant

      Thanks, Sudhi.

      The details seem realistic, well reasoned, the estimate seem about right too. To me the conflict has always been existential, inescapable, merely a matter of time.

      One question arises however. Aleks writes>  I’m afraid the Americans will have even bigger trouble by 2030. That is the forecast of the Chinese intelligence services. By 2030, the American problem will have solved itself without intervention.

      The Chinese forecast was unknown to me. I don’t dispute the conclusion, but would like to read the details, of their analysis about the US civil war (2.0, as the first episode was “solved” by occupation and violence, and did not put to rest the internal contradictions, which have only festered).

      I would add that the second phase of this, like the first,  is surely going to involve appeals to outside assistance, and since many dangerous materials and wanted criminals are presumed to be, in 2030, in the US, the outside assistance is liable to come. It’s hardly in the interests of the world to leave nuclear power plants to spew , nor to fail to arrest major war criminals. And there is the matter of the nazi character of the us itself, arguably it’s a nazi base, and the nazis must not be permitted to prevail. Then too, reparations will be necessary. In that respect, whither Alaska? 😉 Whither Hawaii? 😉

       

      • #35721
        Sudhi
        Participant

        Thank you, Mr P.
        Here is another article in similar vein by Joe Lauria from Consortium News:
        “NATO summit Collectively Losing Their Minds”

        NATO SUMMIT: Collectively Losing Their Minds

        “…The economic war, intended to spur Russians to overthrow their government, has failed spectacularly. The ruble did not collapse despite sanctions on the Russian central bank. Nor has the economy.

        Instead an alternative economic, commercial and financial system that excludes the West has arisen with China, India and Russia in the lead, and most of Asia, Africa and Latin America taking part in what appears to be the final chapter of Western colonialism. The sanctions instead backfired on the West, especially in Europe.

        The information war has failed across the world. Only the United States and Europe, which consider itself “the world,” believe their own “information.”

        The proxy war is being lost on the ground, though more than $100 billion in U.S. aid to Ukraine has created a bloodbath. There will either be a negotiated settlement in which Ukraine loses territory; a total Russian victory; or potentially the final war…

    • #35680
      AHH
      Keymaster


      Watch the scenes with the Lotus opening up under Obama’s feet (also a pun for covid) and Trump’s signature wig in the sky as the boat with the AntiChrist drifts into the home stretch…

      💠 @Intel Slava Z:
      ⭕️ 🇺🇸Biden’s entourage does not believe that he can defeat Trump in the upcoming elections, NBC News reports.

      The network quotes three people “directly involved with Biden’s re-election efforts” who believe his chances of success are zero.

      One unnamed source said Biden will “never recover” from his debate failure and should abandon the fight. “No one in the campaign thinks Biden has a path,” another source said.

      The channel’s interlocutors named US Vice President Kamala Harris as the main alternative candidate.
      ⭕️ 🇺🇸The reaction from Biden’s team when he called Kamala “Vice President Trump” [he linked the Lotus to the Golden Boy! The home stretch for the Last American Prez is on….]
      ⭕️ 🇺🇸Dozens of Democratic lawmakers will issue statements over the next 48 hours calling on President Biden to drop out of the race, US media say.

      ☝️everything’s scripted. The Lotus was in “iPet Goat (2012)” I have no plans to watch or follow this sordidness. Keep in mind the Aug 4 birthday of Obama is coming up in three weeks as a time to “arrange” Trump.

      💠 “One thing is increasingly clear: despite his apparent popularity with a substantial plurality of the American electorate, the powers-that-be in the empire will attempt to do “whatever it takes” to prevent Donald Trump from even getting on the ballot, let alone actually win again”

    • #35682
      Mr P
      Participant

      Essay, to which AHH has given the url above ( The Ashes Will Come First ) refers to Alexis de Tocqueville’s Democracy in America. He examined America together with a colleague.  Each wrote a book, each complimented the other. Gustave de Beaumont wrote Marie, or Slavery in the United States

      Marie can be read as Beaumont’s version of the second volume of Democracy in America, it would seem that Tocqueville , in the end, did not regard Beaumont’s novel as having exhausted the subject of American mores

      The internal contradictions were self-evident long ago, then they were :fissures in the tapestry” now they tear the hysterical machine to pieces.

      For reason painfully obvious these and related works are not in the canon, nobody reads or studies Marie. Melville’s The Confidence Man is never read, nor studied either. The collapse ought not to come as a surprise.  For many it is already happening.

       

    • #35751
      Mr P
      Participant

      Catch yerself a copy asap!

      https://www.fiip.ru/upload/iblock/2ae/u3ha1bq2s3t8kctxjfq2k97tzq8oc690/Miracle-in-the-East-english.pdf

      https://www.rt.com/russia/600947-eastern-front-history-book/

      335 pages of western ww2 reports of Reds whacking the nazis… viva Reds! (hint, they win)

       

    • #35767
      cronetoo
      Participant

      ‘The US Army is made in China’

      Report at https://t.me/VA_Nikonov/28947

    • #35826
      Mr P
      Participant

      Re abilities to support expeditionary adventures   Military Sealift Command 75th Anniversary | (Ep1) Founding of Military Sea Transportation Service – YouTube    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIxXuBlsbVU

      (we wonder if Mister Sal realizes that about half of the military material is sourced in China? Very droll. And chauvinist, and one might ask how MSTS will operate if when the shootin’ starts “Capitán, ¿qué pasará cuando este barco se hunda?” )

      FWIW, USN has a problem with costs and shooting machines. G2mil has interesting story. It seems to imply that USN does not want nice big cheap effective long range guns, just really spendy rocketty thingie projects. 8-inch Naval Gun https://g2mil.com/8inchguns.htm (This is ok I guess, as if they had nice guns they’d shoot them at people I like. I assume the Ruskies are amused and choking on their tea.)

       

       

    • #35856
      AHH
      Keymaster

      Is Trump in Ohio in 21 days?? Can’t see his schedule.. what a way for narcissists to change the narrative from relentless march to Big War worldwide. Back to the two demented swamp spawns

      💠 @Middle East Spectator:
      ⭕ — 🇺🇸 BREAKING: An assassination attempt on Donald Trump at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania
      ⭕ Donald Trump is carried away by the secret service, can be seen bleeding from his ear
      ⭕ A bullet is confirmed to have hit Donald Trump’s ear; if it was one inch to the right, and he would now be dead
      ⭕ Before he is carried away, Trump can be heard saying: ‘Wait, wait – fight! fight! fight!’ (possibly ‘fuck’ 3x)
      ⭕ A perfect picture for the MAGA crowd – Donald Trump has just been elevated to ‘hero’ status
      ⭕ — What I mean by this is that Trump will now be seen very favorably.

      Trump is clearly already using this as a political opportunity; he made sure to stop, pose for the camera and extend his fist, leading chants of ‘USA! USA!’. He was in no hurry to get off the stage. He knows this is extremely good PR for him.

      People, especially Republicans and Trump supporters, will now think even more that ‘the establishment’ (or the ‘deep state’) is out to get him, just like they got Kennedy and tried to get Reagan.

      This is probably the best thing that could have happened for the Trump campaign.
      ⭕ One person dead following the incident at the Trump rally in Penssylvania, likely the shooter
      ⭕ The person who attempted to assassinate former President Trump has been declared dead

      ⭕ Meanwhile, the assassination attempt did not even make headlines in CNN’s news coverage

      Instead, the incident only made a sub-headline in CNN, titled:

      ‘Secret Service rushes Trump off stage after he FALLS at rally’.

    • #35858
      Mr P
      Participant

      Teddy Roosevelt got shot and went on to give a speech, pulled up his shirt, and yelled, (iirc) “…and not only that! I’ve been shot!”  Very effective!

       

    • #35862
      AHH
      Keymaster

      Our Armenian brother in Los Angeles is saying this was the appetizer, to light a fuse. The criminals know how to stoke wars. Imagine the effect if he’s struck again in the same vacuous head, and seemingly for the count, and while being denied adequate protection by his “enemies” in power.

      How’re Russkies gonna handle a runaway bomber without a crew or comms, running ‘Wing Attack Plan R’?? This is Nixon on steroids

    • #35865
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      Trump may be Hollywooding it up!

    • #35871
      Mr P
      Participant

      Yeah, he’s a showman, like TR was. They say getting shot at, and getting hit, has a profound effect on the man. Assuming he is now a shoe-in, if there is an election, it may be that there will be a big payback. Seems reasonable. Noting that it sounds to my ear like a simi auto pistol, I count about 8-10 rounds fired. They always double, so the implication is that there will now be a “main event” in order to “postpone” election due to “civil unrest” etc etc. It seems like a machine logic read only program, end of empires go this way.  Does not seem to me like anything but a genuine assassination attempt, one that failed to kill the target. I have long speculated that if, at Dallas, it had failed, John would have been guaranteed re-election, and with a stong mandate for peace with USSR, as was his promise. The numerous political shootings – Japan, EU – recently, coincidence theory weighs in.  ie no coincidence. The shootings all point to desperation and fear and panic, and a common agency, ahem. I wonder if at Martha’s Vinyard  they’ve sent out for extra vodka and coke tonite. S. Stone spoke of antififa and speculated that it is an intelop, (duh!). The lit fuze may be, but it looks like a damp squib. If is not a coincidence and they screwed it up, look for encore of some sort, ie more lighting of fuzes… I don’t imagine it was a coincidence.  What will be will be. Nasty business. Trumpster now, as a “wounded animal” will be an especially grave danger to his enemies…that outcome is about as bad for them as possible, I think. Nobody should be surprised. Nor be astonished when things get worse.  FWIW I note that Trump’s response was brave.

    • #35872
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      Oh, there is a new game in town now.

      US Civil Defense News

      @CaptCoronado

      Trump just started wearing a bulletproof vest as advised by his security detail. It saved his life!! He took a shot to the chest!!

      There is an image here:  https://x.com/CaptCoronado/status/1812283824748872152

       

    • #35873
      AHH
      Keymaster

    • #35878
      Mr P
      Participant

      How very remarkable, if it’s true, that the would be assassin was pointed out minutes ahead by people in the crowed to the cops, minutes before the shooting began, and dead quite soon afterwards. Some might imagine a similarity to the Oswald affair in the Dallas copshop… no trial. SBALIH comes to mind. I don’t think the Trumpster was wearing  a vest. I do think he will be from now on. Now back to I Clavdius…mushrooms anybody? 

      It is a feature of crazy times that a multitude of murders and slaughters in Palestine, and, they say, a half-million in 404, and attacks on cities with bombs are considered less significant than a small number of murders and woundings in Pennsylvania. W3 takes on the strange unspeakable character of a cruel farce in Hell.

       

    • #35879
      Mr P
      Participant

      From this clip: https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/116278           we might say that the government snipers had the soon to be dead would-be assassin in the cross-hairs, simply waiting for him to shoot the Trumpster, so that then they could kill him. Some will form the idea that it was a setup…calling Lee Oswaldski…

      and recalling Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

      means motive opportunity………………. and conspiracy...

      a general principle is, they say, that when a plan screws up, they repeat it until they get it right.

    • #35882
      Mr P
      Participant

      fbi cia roof professional courtesy

      🙂

    • #35883
      AHH
      Keymaster

      💠 @ejmalrai:
      ⭕ Donald Trump got a bullet through his right ear, and the shooter was killed, and the world was hit by a tsunami.

      The Palestinians get thousands of bullets every day, and the shooters are free, supported by the West, and the world doesn’t move an inch.

      💠 @BhadraPunchline:
      1/2 In a Guardian interview in June, Steve Bannon – a Trump adviser and former White House chief strategist: “It’s my number one fear. Assassination has to be at the top of the list and I believe that the woman that’s running Secret Service part…”
      2/2 “is not doing her job.” Trump is portrayed as a new Julius Caesar everywhere from a New York theatre production to essay by Robert Kagan, paving the way for a would-be assassin to feel justified in emulating Brutus. Lincoln received similar treatment after the civil war…
      ⭕ Biden says he does not have all the facts to call the shooting an attempt on Trump’s life. But those don’t have such cognition problem include EU’s Borrell; Canada’s Trudeau; Mexico’s Obrador; Argentina’s Miley; Hungary’s Orban; Brazil’s Lula; amongst others
      ⭕ Biden in a call Monday with donors: “I have one job, and that’s to beat Donald Trump. I’m absolutely certain I’m the best person to be able to do that. So, we’re done talking about the debate. It’s time to put Trump in the bullseye.”

      • #35891
        AHH
        Keymaster

        Hollywierd’s predictive programming and sly peaks always gives the game away, if only one looks and can interpret.

        If you look above photo of Neo in the Matrix (captioned “The meme seen ’round the world.”) it spells it out. Neo is called “The One.” Trump during his presidency called himself “The Chosen One.

        I discussed before here and in old Cafe how the character of Neo in the Matrix stands for the AntiChrist, and principalities in general. They can really MOVE – much faster than us humans, and even bullets.

        I’ve also seen (dont recall if shared) scenes of Trump during his presidency being inhabited and then evacuated, like a meat-suit, by unseen beings. IIRC it was during his Presidency while in Italy on G7 or such summit. The same for Macron and Bill Clinton and one famous ESPN sports commentator — all seemed to freeze during the process, like a robot, before their innate spirit comes back into control. It is known all these deviant pedophile elites function in coordination with elite principalities to rule mankind, and thus their puppets, such as Trump, are closely controlled, literally, from the inside at key moments.

        This is how he can simultaneously see a bullet coming and dodge it, by being remote controlled directly by the djinn/demons.

        So I lean toward it all being “faked.. all artifice and theater to achieve a psychological manipulation of the American public.”

        At this sordid point, devoid of battlefield victories and accelerating implosion, they shall resort more and more to these narrative gimmicks to keep the lemmings distracted as Samson brings the columns, and roof, on their noggins. Perhaps Bye-Don shall be set up next, to juice the other side into foaming frenzy just as the Trumpists are currently in uproar.

        “All the world’s a stage,
        And all the men and women merely Players;
        They have their exits and their entrances,
        And one man in his time plays many parts,
        His Acts being seven ages. “

    • #35900
      Mr P
      Participant

      Taking the more mechanistic and secular line, Occam’s Razor an’ all that stuff…still, the reality and the echos from the future, the eschatology, must  touch and ultimately be identical objects, simply seen from different angles and in different light.

      Devil’s delight is in masquerade – which btw, iirc, is a theme for Melville in Confidence Man.  Speaking of the feller so lucky with orange balding head.

      Comrade Corbett and limited hangout cascades>

      https://corbettreport.substack.com/p/theyre-finally-revealing-the-deep

      In which he refers to Susurluk Incident

      A bit of sleuthing leads to an innarrestin’ paper> from 2004 Organized Crime in Europe. https://dspace.library.uu.nl/handle/1874/11954

      and a download> https://dspace.library.uu.nl/bitstream/handle/1874/11954/Bovenkerk_04_OC_Turkey.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y

      (other locations don’t permit download ‘ceptin’ for “scholars”)

      Remarking> Organized crime is transnational. Professional an’ all that. And as one with Fascists, Capital and Banks and spies and dope and blackmail and murder.  Buncha pirate and rats.

      Chapter beginning Susurluk 

      “…It happened on the evening of Sunday, 3 November 1996. Late-night television
      viewers in Turkey saw their programme interrupted by a line of text appearing under
      the picture. It was shocking news. Three people were killed in a traffic accident near
      the town of Susurluk in western Turkey and a fourth injured. Ever since the advent
      of commercial television, people in Turkey had grown accustomed to this kind of
      shock news. Every night there were sensational interruptions especially inserted
      to boost viewing ratings. In retrospect most of them were pretty insignificant. The
      people who died in this particular accident were police chief Huseyin Kocadag,
      a man by the name of Mehmet Ozbay and Ms Yonca Yucel. The injured man was
      Sedat Bucak, a member of Parliament from the province of Urfa in the southeast
      of the country and known as the commander of an army of village guards set up
      to protect that region from the PKK, the violent separatist movement of Kurds. A
      couple of pistols, machine guns and a set of silencers were found in the wreckage
      of the car. Half an hour later a new line of information appeared on the screen:
      the deceased ʻMehmet Ozbayʼ was really Abdullah Catli. His name will not mean
      much to Turks under the age of 30, but the older generation certainly knows him.
      In the 1970s, Catli was the vice-chairman of the national organisation of ulkucu
      (literally idealists) better known abroad as the Grey Wolves. He has been wanted
      by the Turkish authorities since 1978 as the suspect in a number of murders, one
      of them involving seven students. He was also wanted by Interpol, because he had
      been arrested by the French and Swiss police as a heroin dealer, but escaped from
      a Swiss prison in 1990. The woman who died in the crash was his girlfriend.
      There was soon more information about the other people in the car. Police chief
      Kocadag was one of the most important founders of the special units at the police
      force and was now the director of the Police Academy in Istanbul. These special
      units were set up in 1985 under the command of the General Board of Directors
      of the Police. Alongside the army and the militia of village guards, they combated
      the PKK. It was generally assumed that their members were recruited from MHP
      circles, the ultra-right-wing political party that protected the ulkucu, or Grey Wolves.
      These units were expanded in 1993 and came to resemble what they were under
      Tansu Çiller, who was Prime Minister. It was an odd combination of peop…”

      enjoy!

    • #35904
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      Caitlin Johnstone as usual acerbic!

      The western political-media class hasn’t been this sympathetic and supportive toward Trump since he bombed Damascus.

      I have loaded this up on Daily Chronicles approx five times now, but it disappears.  America is building up quite a vile problem, and it is Christian Zionism.   In addition, Trump is now portrayed as touched by the hand of god almighty himself.

    • #35911
      cronetoo
      Participant
      • #35918
        amarynth
        Keymaster

        That is so funny cronetoo.

        It’s crazy out there.  I see some of the telegram channels (Scott Ritter being one) are just closing their commentary as they cannot cope.

      • #35957
        K
        Participant

        LOL Caitlin is so sharp and always right on the money.

    • #35917
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      How the Trump Pennsylvania rally shooting looked from China

      The assassination attempt on former US president Donald Trump swiftly became the top trending topic on Chinese social media, drawing comparisons with other political figures killed by gunmen.

      Within hours of the shooting at the campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, the topics “#Trump was shot” and “#Trump says a bullet pierced his right ear” were among the most searched on microblogging service Weibo.

      The tone of the comments ranged from neutral to gloating, with various commenters saying the presumptive Republican Party nominee “failed to meet Shinzo Abe”, a reference to the former Japanese prime minister who was assassinated in 2022. The incident prompted some internet users to highlight the wide access to firearms in the United States and the frequent number of gun crimes.

      Others suggested that the shooting was staged and that “after the bullet pierced his ear, he still showed his head and raised his arms to cheer”. “Trump will make full use of this shooting and further improve his support rate,” another said.

    • #35923
      Dimitar
      Participant

       

      God’s will?
      depends on which day it is;
      assassination nation

       

    • #35924
      Mr P
      Participant

      Kennedy sees through the gag, the SS was in on the hit. He knows. https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/116299  He’s a lawyer, like Lionel and Napolitano, they have read case law. The Oswaldski gag….

      Bobby Kennedy, son of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on the failure of American intelligence agencies to protect the presidential candidate:

      “An unprotected roof 150 yards away. Numerous witnesses, they shouted at the secret service and filmed for 3-4 minutes while they saw the guy with the rifle crawl to the spot and take aim. Take your Secret Service and shove it up your ass! Praying for Trump and his family.”

    • #35934
      AHH
      Keymaster


      An OLD 1990s illuminati playing card with a bullet whizzing by Trump’s face (and spike proteins)…. this is another satanic ritual. Those who believe irrationally in the Drumpf shall have their hearts ripped out.. he’s either toast, a “messiah-like” sacrificial figure used to stoke the crazed Zionist Christians, OR the one who completes the Annihilation of the Palestinians on behalf of Zion and thereby completes the demolition of the West. Not a good bandwagon to be on in any case…

    • #35941
      Mr P
      Participant

      Well, yeah. Some faction does want him dead though, and obviously they have some sway over the SS, which was also the case in the Dallas thing. So sure, toast is a real possibility. The patsy with the AR just barely missed, and wind at 150 yard matters… (that’s a long shot imho with a .223, though at the range it’s possible to hit at that distance, most of the time, a target the size of a 1″ circle, with a target rifle, match ammo, and plenty of practice) And he’s tight with the zionist faction of the nazis, who probably have special pictures from dear old Jeff and he worships money and fame, basic flaws, and he’s ignorant…a user being used…classical for the Confidence racket. With brother Marandi, I agree, it probably does not matter which faction, which stooge, gets to be called prez. The die is cast, nazi lose. Just a matter of a crumbling cookie, and probably much nasty violence. At Anoxia they pick up a corpse almost every day already, dope, mostly… cops say “code 11-44” and/or “we need the 700 unit”… more to come no doubt. I’m recalling “see what happens Larry?!!, and the spirits of the murdered Red Indians haunt these stolen lands… They’re still here.

    • #35946
      AHH
      Keymaster

      I’ve also posted this a lot, since Cafe days.. my favorite YouTuber did a huge decode. The Don is essential to detonating Civil War inside the USA – that may be his primary “mission” – involuntary or not.

      This Twilight Zone episode “He Lives” served as template for the political narrative of the Don – and all crafted populist “fascist” types whispered to by ethereal figures behind the scenes. They’re used to rile and enrage the masses, against their own best interests. And not merely any controlled opposition — he is the wrecking crew you send in for the homestretch, when the columns and roof are pulled.. The Last American Prez

    • #35953
      Mr P
      Participant

      https://archive.org/details/TheCrowdAStudyOfThePopularMind

      Serling had his own demons, I expect you know.

      I never paid much attention to his writing, but remember a little of the old TV shows. His demons came through.

      • #35956
        AHH
        Keymaster

        He was disturbed individual. PTSD from Pacific war fighting on Philippines. Daredevil when he returned to CONUS – he once flighttested a jet ejector seat on a model where the prior two or three tests had killed the man.. but this series wasn’t solely his work?? It looks like a collaborative Big Club production. Way too suave and subtle and wide in scope for any single human.. these shows were among my earliest memories as a kid, visiting the US

        ☝️Does a malignant A.I. run the West based on kabbala and numerology?? But I’ve learned everything about Trump has been scripted for so many decades… the “God-Emperor” is a living ritual and experience!

        • Joe’s Superb Owl …
        • 611 ((( 911 )))
        • 55
    • #35967
      Mr P
      Participant

      Smoothie and P C Roberts say similar about the whack, the whackjobs, and the reality.

      https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2024/07/why-do-you-think.html

      (smoothie is quite strident)

      …. threshold of disintegration has been crossed. Now things will only accelerate… 

      Did We Just Witness the FBI’s Attempt on Trump’s Life?

      ...Without unity there is no common interest, which means that power will rest on force. Given this dynamic, political assassination can become commonplace. In a very real sense, America is ceasing to exist…. 

      I figured that when the nazis blew the towers and murdered thousands of American in broad daylight, then destroyed the evidence, well much of it, that signaled the end.  Though it was just a signal, the change preceded, perhaps with the bomb. Maybe with the murders in the 60’s. Martin especially, and Malcolm. The rate of change is nonlinear, motis in fine an’ all that. The juggernaut rolls off the cliff.  Weeee! Shudda bought a squirrel (recalling a bad movie)

      I see Comrade Garland has thoughts too. He’s a former cop. He knows pretty well that it was a rigged setup. Inside job. Garland was just on RT

      Remember the old story about the school teacher moonlighting at the bordello? The Madam listening at the door overheard “You’re going to go it over and over until you get it right! 

      They’ll try again, the lie can only be supported by violence. And the senile cat? In such times no one is safe. Like the Ruskie feller said> “Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be maintained by violence.”  (not that anything is concealed anymore, all that remains is violence)

      They’ll probably call the violence “law”… in fact they already do… Fear and panic, the lesser gods of war…

       

    • #35986
      Mr P
      Participant

      https://theduran.locals.com/member/OldManWinters

      cum granum salis, fine print says 3 minutes in crosshairs. a stand back and let it happen, then whack the kid, the patsy… while the DEI hires panic… Empire can’t even manage an assassination properly. Meantime the crowd is yelling “there’s a guy on the roof!”

      3 minutes in the crosshairs

    • #35987
      Mr P
      Participant

      not funny snipers

    • #35988
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      And the Lone Gunman Rides Again.

    • #35998
      AHH
      Keymaster

      💠 @DDGeopolitics:
      ⭕ 🇺🇸 Forensic Analysis Reveals Multiple Guns Fired at Trump Rally

      Forensic analysis indicates that up to three firearms were discharged during the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday.

      An audio analysis conducted by Catalin Grigoras and Cole Whitecotton from the University of Colorado’s National Center for Media Forensics suggests that the initial three shots matched a suspected weapon A, followed by five shots from suspected weapon B, and concluding with an acoustic signature potentially from weapon C.

      According to the FBI, the shooter acted independently.
      [According to the FBI, Trump was really urinated on for perverse pleasure in a Moscow hotel room in that dossier compiled by Hillary’s team and the Brits. ‘Fool Me Once, Shame On You’

      btw, the standards of Team B (Corsicana or Siciliano) and Team C (See Ah Aye) aren’t what they used to be..]

    • #36040
      AHH
      Keymaster

      “US Senator J.D. Vance of Ohio appears to be the Vice-Presidential choice of Donald Trump.”

      James David Vance (born James Donald Bowman; August 2, 1984)
      Hasn’t Ohio been a traditional voter swing state?? So the Don may be in Ohio in early August..

      Thank God! Smoothie’s got new intro music!!!

    • #36054
      cronetoo
      Participant

      Vanessa B gets it …

      https://t.me/VanessaBeeley/29166

      IDF is beyond evil …

      https://t.me/VanessaBeeley/29168

       

       

       

    • #36056
      Mr P
      Participant

      https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/116433

      Russian 1, Television Network sends a reminder to countries involving themselves against the Russian federation.

      Includes handy maps and is especially clear with regard to UK, Vernichtung oder Ausmerzung, kaputski

       

    • #36066
      Mr P
      Participant

      Comrade Sanchez presents> https://karlof1.substack.com/p/russia-expands-its-basis-for-greatness

      (There’s a hidden message for Ohio, politely left as implication! Mister Vance…and the uneducated orange guy )

      (If you don’t make good steel, if you don’t honor labor and science, doom follows)

    • #36105
      AHH
      Keymaster

      Just the first 16 minutes or so. Ignore the rest, as he’s decoding something unrelated

    • #36110
      AHH
      Keymaster


      • #36126
        Mr P
        Participant

        Previously I expressed that I have observed that under pressure marines “revert”.  The dear fellow was endorsed by no less a personage than Alex Jones due, he said, to the fact that he’s killed people. No kidding. Heard with my own ears. Strange endorsement. And it raises questions about dear Alex, eh? Values an’ all that stuff. Barry and  the female and the old guy and the rest, does Jones endorse them for the same reason? Why not? What times! I wonder who JDV killed…and why.

    • #36116
      AHH
      Keymaster

    • #36117
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      • #36135
        K
        Participant

        Hilarious thank you 🙂 he is so good.

    • #36118
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      No, I don’t think this is biblical, but this is what came to mind: ” … And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.”

    • #36123
      cronetoo
      Participant

      Karl(@MoA) has translation of Lavrov’s speech today @ UNSC

      https://karlof1.substack.com/p/lavrov-at-unsc-usa-indeed-an-outlaw

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