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    • #15674
      AHH
      Keymaster

    • #15682
      AHH
      Keymaster

      Very interesting report from useful limited hangout regarding the same RUSI that became famous since SMO began for asserting the West lost industrial warfare edge to Russia. It now appears RUSI is the think tank driving the nuclear provocation at the Z-NPP. This is quite possible, given rabid Brit leadership of escalation at each stage. The Western alliance works through division of labor – and most of the Ukrainian dossier appears to be managed by the Brits, given their specialized expertise in sabotage, naval skullduggery, psywar messaging, and terrorism.

      Notes:

      • they allege RUSI inspired the US senatorial duo of Graham & Blumenthal into linking fallout contamination of Europe with NATO’s Article V activation. (do not the madmen understand they are essentially demilitarized, and even if not cannot beat Russia in landwar, and so any subsequent putative escalation leads to full nuclear war??)
      • “after a NATO-Ukrainian manufactured incident, CBRN troops, under NATO direction, would enter the plant area. An incident would be the basis for nations which sent the troops, most of them NATO members, to deploy “personnel,” i.e., troops, to Ukraine’s assistance.”
    • #15694
      Mr P
      Participant

      That’s a highly appropriate picture of the Luk. Good!

      Well, after more reading and consideration, especially in light of things said by Mr “b” @ MoA, it seems the Der Chef definitely went a little funny in the head…recalling Great President Merton Muffley in dialogue with Primer Kizzoff. Like Burroughs said, can’t beat the mark inside. Evidently a game of let rabbit run, and it worked.

      ………..

      Der AfD and the nazis dance toward the good ol’ times. https://archive.ph/PPXgw

      From the German text>

      “Not only the district council election of Sonneberg, but also the soaring poll numbers of the AfD on the Sunday question are causing panic among the old parties. In this context, Interior Minister Faeser is obviously planning an AfD ban procedure and has indirectly asked Haldenwang to give her a template for this.

      In the Sunday question, the AfD achieved poll results at a record high and the first AfD district council was elected in Sonneberg. There is panic among the old parties. But instead of thinking about a change of strategy in dealing with a democratically elected party, one resorts to those concepts that have already proved ineffective, and is firmly determined to intensify them even more.
      [this is] Contempt for democracy against the will of the voters.”

      ending> “Schreiben dieses Artikels durch den Kopf ging, ich aber niemals behaupten würde: Parteien verbieten ist sowas von 1933. Und anscheinend typisch sozialistisch – ob national oder international ist dann nebensächlich“” Yes, rather like the Hitler period… (I wouldn’t have said “socialist”, but the author is constrained in his choices by German law against free speech, or whatever…)

      Ok…so? Note that outlawing a party is not an event, but a nearly endless process, and one with several factors…and the process? Well, “lawfare” gives away to other forms, aheem. One unintended consequence will be more exodus to points East. Another expected manifestation will be Gladio 2.x and a charming antigladio 2.x prime. Bluntly. domestic violence. Noting that generally most violence traces to States, not citizen clubs. After all, the exclusive right to violence is said to define the Nth State, and the State has copsandarmiesandguns.

      In the end Germany makes good treaty with Russia. The Office for the Protection of the Constitution can’t change the drang nach Rus…they can only screw it up for a while.

      …………

      I get the idea, reading over the recent days, that in Kremlin big decision is underway. Their logic being based on the idea, the (final?)  determination, that Russia cannot abide the present bellicose and obdurate, and dangerous character of the US State’s behaviors and plans. Thus “target” lies not so much in Europe. The Strategic Goal may be undergoing re-evaluation, as well as, obviously, the means by which this Goal might be best achieved. “Poseidon” machine being on the buffet, as well as economic and other less direct and more subtle means.

      Let us ask, did the treasonplot, taken in its totality, amount to an attack on the Russian State? Did the plot threaten the existence of the Russian State? If it’s seen that way, would that not dictate a Policy Change? The unintended consequence and the indirect strategy are a pair. “West HQ” just drew the rifle sights upon themselves, I imagine. How stupid.

      I’ll lay a bet that  nazibaseHQ/West  has become the prime target as a result of the treason plot. That we shall soon see a correction of Strategy in accord with modified goal. I have no idea as to how this new Strategy will appear. Well, yeah, I do… just don’t want to say. It can go well, or not well. An indirect strategy crafted to induce a symmetrical treason plot, with suitable modifications and in concert with internal destabilization (already underway) might be a general path.

      Putin once said that as a young fella in KGB “he believed” in the Soviet ideological “truths”, the “soviet church” if you will. I often think about that.

      Best! P

    • #15697
      AHH
      Keymaster

      democracy in western hands is not merely a sham, it is a cruel torture device. Deep-sixing the AfD may bring most unfortunate fruits – in conjunction with collapsing QoL & economy, austerity, and lack of jobs and hope – it will birth frank fascism. A Strong Man will emerge.. part of the desired hegelian dialectic – problem, reaction, and solution. Their problem though is that this process takes about a decade or so to mature, and they do not have such a time frame to prep more stormtroopers for another go Eastwards..

      The issue is not the political system, which is rigged and swings back and forth fruitlessly between soft democratic tyranny and hard fascism. How to change the rotten elites?? Germany has no prospects whilst the same criminals remain in charge!

      Yes the treason was an attack on the Russian state. And the vilest sort. Designed to grease internal conflagration, a fratricidal war, the worst kind. During his first speech, the visible rage on VVP’s face and in his comportment was fearsome and promises hell. What did it do to change his calculi? His approach and prior measured ways? Hope for accommodation and civilized resolution mechanisms??

      In a Union State of ~200 M (Rus-Bel-Kazak-Novorossiya) there are unlimited useful idiots to be instrumentalized like the Chef and his acolytes… the fight must be taken to the unrepentant and deviant arsonists. Otherwise one faces insurgency and terrorism for 100 years. So yeah, for sure, after the breath-taking criminality of the last 1.5 years, convivial former plans are being revised with New Policies. If Londonistan is too close to Russia in the missile age and likely abandoned by key deciders, perhaps a new wave of Conquistadores, hunting elite Big Game, will wash ashore select areas of “the New World”..

    • #15698
      Sudhi
      Participant

      Satire from The Babylon Bee :
      WASHINGTON, D.C. — As a sign of ongoing commitment and support for Ukraine in its war against Russia, American President Joe Biden has announced he is officially canceling the 2024 elections.

      “If it’s the right move for Zelensky, it’s the right move for us,” Biden said when the announcement was made.
      https://babylonbee.com/news/in-show-of-solidarity-with-ukraine-biden-cancels-2024-us-elections

    • #15699
      Sudhi
      Participant

      Forwarded from Older than Edda :
      “I kept thinking that the burning of the Koran in Sweden reminds me, and I realized that this is a direct copy of Homer’s Iliad.

      The king of Ithaca, Odysseus, had recently married, a little Telemachus was born to him, and he was not at all attracted to go to fight near Troy because of the woman Menelaus who had fled to Paris. When they decided to “hand over the summons” to Odysseus, he pretended to be insane, put an ox and a donkey into the plow and began to sow the field with salt. But the military medical commission in the person of Palamedes saw through the cunning of King Ithaca and he left his homeland for 20 years, leaving first for general mobilization for a ten-year war, and then for another 10 years he could not find his way home.

      Sweden, as for me, in this case also decided to play the fool, hoping that now Ankara will definitely block its entry into NATO and Stockholm will quietly continue to make Ikea furniture and Volvo cars. For the sake of this, Stockholm is ready to do anything, even despite the fact that a huge Muslim community lives in Sweden itself. For the sake of justice, we note that Sweden is not Odysseus at all, and NATO is now oh how far from the Greek army of Agamemnon.”

      From the latest article by Rostislav Ishchenko :
      https://ukraina.ru/20230629/1047659465.html
      But now the Rubicon is crossed. In Sweden, the Koran was once again burned…When someone burns the holy book of a religion that is alien to them, it can somehow be explained by deep beliefs (for example, atheistic) against the background of a lack of common culture. But when a product that is taboo from the point of view of this religion is pre — wrapped in this sacred book, this is a blatant deliberate provocation…The organizers of the action were well aware of this, and therefore demanded the protection of the police. The fact that they received it indicates that the state supported the provocation. The West deliberately split its society, believing that the total imposition of the ideology of” tolerance ” gives it more advantages than it brings problems.

    • #15700
      Mr P
      Participant

      I think it’s significant, and implies a good prospect, that AHH and I tend to agree. “Deep-sixing the AfD may bring most unfortunate fruits – in conjunction with collapsing QoL & economy, austerity, and lack of jobs and hope – it will birth frank fascism. A Strong Man will emerge”. Boosted into power by a response to violence, the Leader will follow along and use more of it. But does that mean Leader is crazy, or quisling?

      Indeed, fascist “christ” in zone G…very probable. But this man on white horse may make pragmatic and reasoned accommodation to reality. Probably not, but maybe. Not all fascist are delusional, many are merely immoral opportunists. And from small sometimes grows big good. Depends on soil and husbandry. Germany must come to terms, one way or another. “Must” like glacier must.

      Speaking of Terms> In a sense, I think the Kennedy is an attempt to save his class, as well as what’s left, speaking of man on white horse.

      The propaganda about Rus fiddling the politics in USA was mostly bs, look for that to change. As in W3 calls for Stieglitz and more, as well as Comrade Poseidon. It’s a League Game, after all. Petroprice rise usa? Bear in woods. I note big shift in propaganda already underway.  Target zone nazi has moved to North America, I laid bet.

      Also note schadenfreude  in Zone South. That will weaken the victory. Oh well…

      Best! P

       

    • #15701
      AHH
      Keymaster

      @ 30:45 note Smoothie’s words, “Belarussian KGB, unlike [Russian] FSB, they are not really bound that well with The Laws. They can work in the Good Old Ways, if need be. They can make him do what they want him to do…” 😂🤣😘

      From the Fire into the Pot! Our Luka hasn’t survived the fall of the USSR for 30+ years by being a benevolent Bambi. Eurocrazies hated him before Putin, branding him “Europe’s Last Dictator” as they realized he was nearly impregnable from soft color coups. And they are the Sons of Brest Fortress too! Small in numbers but mean to the bone in war.

      I think we can consider the Chef’s current accommodations a form of full-room walk-in Cold Storage until the forensic analysis for the Judgment is concluded. And Smoothie said apparently less than a thousand took the one-way ticket to Belarus, in the hundreds…. 

      The contours of this debacle is starting to make the meteor that putatively ended the dinosaurs look half-hearted and weak… this self-inflicted mishandling of the Chef is accelerating Collapse in the West, even before Russia applies the short strokes. Unbelievable

    • #15704
      Mr P
      Participant

      Yes. And note “debacle” is probably the precise choice of word…breaking of ice in river in Spring. nazi interrogation (image from camp ash can…1945, with all the gang…for a time they even had their pistols returned…imagine that!)

      I think phase change in offing. After very well argued voir dire with Chef…and certain imaginative undertakings, Poor devil… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_That_Tune    (In longpast Mr P has been asked questions very persuasively by certain agents of State. . . it’s not rocket science. Chef make booboo.)

      All of this process, whatever twists and turns and surprises it presents, seems to me a natural thing, a  Gleichschaltung prerequisite to serious combat war. Note the German nazis hijacked this term from engineering, properly “alignments” and/or “coordination” of electrical (or socially, people and institutions) for a single purpose. I do wonder that our traitor has served a function essential to the process, and speculate that had verrater not volunteered himself, it would have been far worse…and even think that then absent verrater, it would have become necessary to create one. Fate may have blessed us all.

      Many Thanks for video… Brother Ray and the fellas! Los Tres Amigos!

      ……………………..meantime Anoxia homeless volk multiply, a lot.

      I keep thinking of film “The Producers”… It’s Spring time for….

      Right.

      Best! P

    • #15714
      AHH
      Keymaster

      testing testing testing

      message from amarynth an hour ago on site telegram: “Kindly be patient. Our site is being beaten up from different directions. We’re working on it!”

      first 100 buyers to have autographed copies, courtesy of HUGE fans of this seminal work, the former San Francisco mayor Willie Brown and the Polish Power-Duo Anne Applebaum and her hubby the ever-useful Radoslaw Sikorski…..

    • #15726
      AHH
      Keymaster

       

      Scott mentions something I had heard elsewhere recently — one of the men Luka spoke with on that critical day was Nur-Sultan Nazarbaev. This is extremely telling. He appears to have been one of the Chef’s handlers.

      Who is Nazarbaev?? Apparently “a fallen angel.” Dictator for life in Kazakhstan 1991 – 2019. One of most influential men in Eurasia after the fall of the USSR. A Putin mentor at one point. Along with Primakov, he pioneered Eurasianism, and started the multilateral processes such as EAEU, CIS, CSTO, etc….

      However, keeping in mind Lord Acton’s dictum, “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely,” we can trace his fall… extremely resource-rich Kazakhstan, even though 9th largest country on earth, was not only (1) landlocked, but (2) sandwiched between behemoths Russia and China, while being (3) sparsely settled and (4) nearly divided between ethnic Russians in wealthy northern oblasts and ethnic Kazakhs in poorer southern oblasts.

      Worst of all, the British vipers wormed their way amongst Kazakh elites. BP managed most of their oil. Their elites flocked to Londonistan. They were assiduously being wedged apart from Russia and China. A satanic British architect built a new capital for them. Nazarbaev was sold the fable that this new capital, grandiosely named after his own first name (which means “Light of the Sultan,” a pun on Lucifer’s Kingdom) would be the future capital of the New World Order, smack in the heart of Eurasia…

      ah, the delusions of hubristic yearning kings! He even started to completely abandon multipolarity and circumscribe the use of the Russian language.. Alarmed Russians started to built another cosmodrome on their home soil, seeing their future at the Baikonur tenuous. This was the world’s first spaceport, built in 1955 and maintained to this day by Russia.

      However the multi-vectoring and maddened man grew old… somehow a more practical new leader came to be in 2019, and he had happened to be a Soviet diplomat colleague of Lavrov’s before 1991. Enraged Empire, being stymied, attempted a coup in month before SMO began in January 2022.. The Russian led CSTO came to the rescue, and Nazarbaev’s old clique were cleansed from the power bases and bureaucracy.

      Was the Chef one of his spiteful attempts at revenge?? He undoubtedly remains extremely wealthy, given the billions squirreled away in London and offshore. That Luka immediately called him is telling. They were colleagues in the USSR and know each other intimately since then. The FSB will have eavesdropped and made the connections. And the whispering British Iagos will have instrumentalized the 83 yo Nazarbaev one last time before he croaks.

      What a clusterfu##!

       

    • #15739
      Sudhi
      Participant

      A week after returning from a Summit meeting with US President Joe Biden, Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Friday dialled Russian President Vladimir Putin and informed him on his “international contacts”, including ones during his recent visit to Washington, said a Kremlin readout.
      https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/russian-president-putin-and-pm-modi-agree-to-further-boost-bilateral-strategic-ties-discuss-ukraine-war-521582
      In connection with the events of June 24 (revolt by the Wagner chief) in Russia, PM Modi expressed understanding and support for the decisive actions of the Russian leadership to protect law and order, ensure stability in the country and the security of its citizens.

      The conversation came a day after National Security Advisor Ajit Doval spoke to his Russian counterpart Nikolai Patrushev.

      “The conversation was substantive and constructive. The leaders reaffirmed their mutual intention to strengthen the special and privileged strategic partnership between Russia and India and agreed to maintain contact,” said the Kremlin readout.
      https://www.rt.com/india/578991-putin-holds-phone-talks-with/
      From April 2022 through February 2023, bilateral trade reached a record $45 billion, well beyond the target of $30 billion by 2025 set by both leaders several years back. Russia has moved from 25th to 7th place among Indian trading partners, after the US, China, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Indonesia.

      While the leaders reaffirmed their mutual commitment to strengthening the privileged strategic partnership, special attention was given to interactions within the framework of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) and the Group of Twenty (G20), where India currently holds the chairmanship, as well as within the BRICS format, the official statement noted. Modi also briefed Putin about his recent international contacts, including during his visit to Washington.

      • #15756
        AHH
        Keymaster

        Yes. I am reminded of the joke which followed Biden and Blinken… they would visit the Saudis and as soon as they got on their plane, they would call Putin to update him! 🤣😂

        Everyone’s coordinating against monkeys with Grenades

    • #15743
      emersonreturn
      Participant

      as you know i’ve been puzzling the fate of the pilots, & the loss of prized jets & helicopters, topped by the slurs broadcast about surovikin failing to close air space, among other really hard to swallow chunks of baloney.  it doesn’t compute.   i cannot recall exactly who may’ve first floated this theory…possibly larry johnson…remarking on the fact nato was in the area just finishing their war buffoonery & that they seeing the fruition of their wet dreams sent in airpower. here: is it possible that prigozhen alerted them & it was nato that began to fire on russian pilots & jets? anticipating this explains why surovikin hadn’t closed airspace instead alerted the pilots to act courageously to stop the intrusion on russian soil.  knowing that by not declaring openly nato’s actions, russia may stop the exercise without having to openly declare world war 3 & send us all into nuclear war?  nato knows its

      lots of guessing, i apologize, i cannot let go until the pieces begin to fall in some reasonable sort of order.

    • #15746
      emersonreturn
      Participant

      thank you, ahh, thank you, amarynth, after i hit submit this post filled the page with gobbledegook, knowing our site is undergoing turmoil, i left it, hoping for the best, wishing i could edit but with fingersXed blessed you all.  thank you both, blessings.

      • #15750
        AHH
        Keymaster

        Hi emerson, I’m checking in after half day or so.. what’s up? I dont understand your message.

        Regarding Surovikin and all the details that day. I don’t think we can trust any source, western or even russian social media atm. Let’s wait for official forensic report. I have a feeling it will be forthcoming soon — if only to add to the utter humiliation of the Chef’s sponsors and putative beneficiaries who celebrated too early, lol.

        Yeah I agree about the risible story of NATO sending in their aircraft into Russia. You don’t do that to a nuclear superpower who is not decapitated. Even then, by open invitation by one traitorous faction. And all that’s a pipedream now, one of the blessings made clear by the Chef’s mad lark. We may have to turn off all western and social media these days, at least until they regain lucidity and get their spiteful emotions under control. What a bilious and dying paradigm! Absolutely toxic and useless atm

         

    • #15747
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      We had a very tough day.

      Here is a snippet of a conversation between me and Tech.

      Tech: “Go and reload these core files – and a list of files.”

      Me: “I don’t wanna – I’m scared!”

      Tech: “Wussy!”

      Ok, that of course put the gauntlet down – it was a major provocation lol. I reloaded those core files.

      I guess we just have to ready for it – any time, any place and we get hit. The reason for the latest, is the BRICS provocations. Now Lavrov spoke out about it. Before now, it was myself and Pepe.

      I’m with China today .. the People’s Liberation Army will not hesitate to “beat the crap out of” whoever stands in the way.

      • #15751
        AHH
        Keymaster

        Yes, and what Lavrov detailed was so shocking in its shamelessness and spite. The madmen are costing themselves goodwill and forbearance among entire GS with these stunts. I highlighted Lavrov’s words here: https://sovereignista.com/2023/06/30/foreign-minister-sergey-lavrovs-interview-with-the-great-game-programme-on-channel-one-moscow/#comment-5921

        If they really go through with these mad schemes, it will be the mother of all own-goals. They will be considered “agreement incapable” by all mankind and ostracized for such naked trickery. Unbelievable. After nuking their own Dollar free lunch, and military supremacy through entering the UkroNazi black hole, now they threaten to rip off what remains of their “face” or word and honor. I am flabbergasted at the suicide in motion. The consequences will be huge in the GS!!!

    • #15752
      AHH
      Keymaster

      Interesting take on French implosion:

      “Therefore, in the absence of representation, and in the presence of the usual mechanisms of exclusion, exploitation and fragmentation of capitalist societies, the only way that remains open is that of destruction, of looting, of cathartic violence….”

      There may be additional vectors. These next winters will be particularly brutal, sans Russian energy. And the 2024 Paris Olympics nears. Perhaps cynical authorities are preempting those proceedings, like some set dry hot woods on a controlled burn to avoid worse fires later??

      And nowadays, most of these youthful rampages are controlled via social media. Forensic analysis will determine degree of spontaneity, and if not, the sponsors. Meyssan documented some time ago the Anglo-Americans instrumentalized French protests, I forget which, perhaps elements within the Yellow Vests??

      So torching France could conceivably be a suitable media distraction for the gutting defeat in the Ukraine, no?? And of course, after what has been done to Germany, there has to be a fair leveling all around in the other major EU economy…

    • #15761
      AHH
      Keymaster

      what’s happened to Twitter???? Has it gone dark to non-subscribers? It requires log-in just to view any content. And Nitter, my preferred portal to view Twitter, is off-line for all accounts: https://nitter.net/MedvedevRussiaE

      https://nitter.net/BhadraPunchline

       

      • #15776
        AHH
        Keymaster

        Twitter isn’t letting users view the site without logging in: “The restriction on public access to Twitter could be an effort to grow the platform’s user base, which has always been significantly smaller than social media rivals like Facebook and Instagram.”

        And in addition, thousands of users report Twitter is down for them….

    • #15773
      AHH
      Keymaster

      Nuremberg Trials, XXI edition

      I do not understand all this talk of Wagner being transferred to Belarus in order to threaten NATO. Both Amarynth and Pepe subscribe to it now! Pl someone explain this logic to me?

      This assumes that the entire Prigozhin ordeal was theatre and/or he was completely forgiven. These are patently absurd. Yes, Russians knew he would be activated and prepared accordingly, but foreknowledge is not at all evidence of collusion… and the murder of the airmen has consequences. The less than 1,000 hardcore remnants who followed the Chef went to Belarus in exile under the iron grip of the jailer Luka. IMHO, they will never again be trusted by either member of the Union State, whether with heavy weapons or as part of the team assaulting Kiev or elsewhere….. They aren’t crazy!!

      How can a lawless group which just attempted the worst kind of traitorous coup (during an existential war, AND behind the defensive lines) be trusted again? Many key leaders, and those who killed the pilots, will not have long lives – the Russian steppes have ever benefited from the ample fertilization of their kind.

      And Wagner is superfluous, with Russian arms, nukes, and the world-famous dogged defense of Belarussians sufficing on their own soil. We need to put to the rest this talk of Wagner having a future role with any of its former rogue leaders.. anyhow, we will see soon enough what is done to the Chef… Mercouris seems to think he will wind up in the West. Again, I disagree. Protection of the rep of Wagner, and accountability for his crimes, indicate he will eventually be pushing up daisies in one of Luka’s picturesque farms.

      ZZzzzzzzzz……………

      Flotsam from the Maelstrom – “Turmoil” 

      (1) Rare footage of Moscow while Tolstoy was still alive.. and only 15 years after Dostoevsky had passed away. The languid Calm before terrible storms..  

      (2) Russian Ships Enter Taiwan’s Territory: New Escalation in East Asia? Uncle Larch was expecting the Russian navy to make its presence felt in seas around China. Isn’t this a tad early though??

      (3) Our sea warrioress Nat’s take on French riots (below)….  iirc, she lives in France and has nuanced PoV. Mr P may have something to say about the incestuous interdependency of the state and narco gang relations in the sordid West… After all, transatlantic supranationals are in full agreement on one thing: the need to prune “useless eaters” and deplorables and especially the middle-class. Thus it was carved into the former Georgia Guidestones

    • #15778
      Mr P
      Participant

      Quick note, Brother…mostly re above, yes.

      Note that as The Emperor N is said to have said, you can do anything with bayonets except sit on them…Wagner bad boys will, I expect, not be dispersed, rather most of them will die in combat.  Brutal, but “best”… and fair, too. Let Heaven judge them, and their cases may have merit at celestial trial.

      Speaking of which…I often think about Bontsha the Silent… his crime was meekness…their crimes are of another character…but both sorts are defensible, and charity mitigates, they say.

      Preface> I want nothing to do with dope or the rackets or the people that do.

      The French narcogang stuff is way beyond me. I’ve seen terrible stuff, but mostly among people of better class, not to be snooty. My opinion is that the dope business and the gun business, the war business, the armieswest rackets and the bank business and the mafia and the spies are one in a vast incestuous bordello. A tiny example…for decades amphetamine was more or less legal and over the counter. It was also easy to synthesize, if anybody wanted to. And doing so was not illegal. It was not much of a social problem. The (calling Laurel Canyon and Company) happened, and it was popularized in “Look” and so on, and on TV…and there was a baby boom and the mothers were working….an epidemic of injection use of amphetamine followed in waves…and now it’s super illegal and functionally impossible to synthesize … while massive factory scale synthesis goes on in Mexico…and there is no Southern border to speak of…big (like D=1 meter) reaction vessels in parallel batch production according to snapshots I’ve seen. That means it’s licensed. Protected. An instrument. The only rational view of this is as a business model, with Government (Pelosi did her part) in league with organized crime and the rest of their charming circle of finks, cut-throats, pols, and richphuckazzwholecapitalistdogs. The French gangs probably have similar associations. I do wonder if our dear little Macron is being punished for some rule violation….

      When the US and the USSR both had stand alone industrial economies things were free and easy…though I can’t speak to the US South or East…but out West it was easy for everybody, and the economy was fairly honest, people made things. Steel. Railroad wheels, table saws…ladders. There were few laws, little crime, dope was almost legal and nobody wanted any… fairly healthy, outside of the smoking and excessive drinking, and much of that was from PTSD and the war. There were more or less no gun laws either…and few shootings.

      The cash is, they say, keeping banks and rackets “solvent” This was the theme from https://www.amazon.com/Big-White-Lie-Operation-Sabotage/dp/0985238623 Mr officer cop Levine

      My gut hunch is that once you make a gang it’s silly to expect loyalty…

      They say that the tinder is even drier in Germany… “And yet, based on the available data, the situation in France is not as explosive as in Germany or Austria” https://www.rt.com/news/579041-france-riots-migration-unrest/  (I am delighted that Dr K Kneissl has found a good position! Her treatment by Austria was shameful)

      Best! P

       

      • #15781
        AHH
        Keymaster

        Ok that is a valid logical POV. This is why I am manifestly unfit to lead nations. The cynicism and real politik required…

        And on reflection, I remember it is a long standing tradition — let the SOBs fight to the death, start to redeem themselves and let Heaven sort them later. They did acquire exceptional skills storming cities (or rather more pertinently, the UkroNATO’s fear factor) so why not? After all, they tolerated him for at least a half year when it became evident he was building up to perfidy… they may again use a rotten tool for some good.. And the Chef’s not needed for the actual fighting. We shall see.


        “🇧🇾🇷🇺 Publics associated with the “Wagner” hint that the main part of the PMC is located on the territory of the 465th missile brigade of operational-tactical missiles of the ground forces of Belarus in the Mogilev region”

        Bolstering your POV are the current rumours that Wagner itself has been transferred to the eastern-most region of Belarus called Mogilev.. a non-threatening placement for now, neither on Kiev’s neck or in Poland’s face. And smack on the Russian border, ironically a much much shorter drive to Moscow compared to Rostov-on-Don! 🤣😂

        Those wily Rooskies!

    • #15782
      AHH
      Keymaster

      Mr P! How can you let that amazing rejoinder stand?! He must be high! A proper patriotic high on the Fourth long weekend! I wrote a small pamphlet screed while triggered.

      ZZzzzzzzzz……………

      Flotsam from the Maelstrom – “feverish & delirious”

      (1) The Collapse of the British Establishment — a British POV. This mirrors what we’ve discussed regarding the US education system since the 1910s.. However imho, the rot’s far deeper and started an eon ago. Even long before openly adopting Sir Francis Drake’s way of life for the entire nation. What she describes is really the current Quickening, the acceleration of inadequacy. When you live in rigged game and thought History had Ended in 1991… well! Do you blame the buggering sods? They’d kept a joyless stiff upper lip for 1,000 years and felt entitled to let their hair down and sack everything in sight. Too bad the Rooskies and Chinese regained their breath

      (2) #TheNewWorldOrder: One Year after Bill Gates’ investment, Malaria quietly makes a comeback in the US. No comment needed.

      (3) Russian Embassy in *** SOUTH AFRICA *** mocks French riots (!) The cherry on Macron’s attempt to gate crash the BRICS in South Africa. Beware Russian stilettos wielded by soft looking diplomats! Even beneath the pomade, the manicure, and the blubber, there’s still a Russian! And a Russian senator querries the security of the French nukes too, lol.

       

    • #15798
      Mr P
      Participant

      “that amazing rejoinder” ? I lost the track, Brother. No comprendo.

      Of Wagner> The once-a-cadet recalls a story about redemption told by the US Marines. In the US Civil War, the story goes, USMC panicked, mutinied, and ran away under fire. Later the same organization expurgated its guilt at battle Belleau Wood in W1. Bald truth, whatever it was, is irrelevant to the story. What is relevant is collective guilt was carried over 5+ decades, and liquidated by the men that didn’t do it. In the example Wagner it, the guilt, will be liquidated by a mixture of both kinds. This collective spirit is just part of the awful way, the Dow, I suppose, of armies. https://archive.ph/7LiNs  The perhaps apocryphal tale goes that the Marines were pinned down in hopeless position and some old old sergent yelled out “something like “Whatamatterwithyouphucks! Yawanna live forever? Charge! (and so they did, so the story). I can still smell the gunoil, see the rifles in their racks – in the armory where they were trying to get me to see the story as a lesson in the good. I was mildly appalled.

      Not every soldier will stand up to a machine gun to liquidate the real or imagined guilt of somebody else, or even his own. That’s why officers carry guns. And that what those guys over there are for… “here’s lookin’ at you…” Like Walter said…it’s a League Game…

      Malaria> In Time, everybody comes to the River. And once upon a time I knew rivervolk along a very pretty reach of river…out west too. And the older people had been infected when young by malaria…they told stories about it. I believe that the Sacramento – San Joaquin pre-European period was naive with respect to several species of valuable fur-bearing species, and also free from malaria. However… intrepid enterprise soon brought a remedy…and infected fur species were introduced. It was particularly hard on the native tribes and the working class Anglos. The pretty reach is now a riprapped channel – essentially cloaca-like, speaking of Billyboy… The malaria in Florida may be expected to become re-introduced out west. I think it was eradicated only in the late 1940s with the use of oil and DDT and a public health campaign…then later the system of flood control dams…

      Cholera, typhoid, rabies… doncha jus luv an encore… I’m thinking of the riparian homeless people that now inhabit in such density with no sanitation, and plenty of dope.

      Alex the Elder gave a personal background story from Switzerland. A politically bifurcated family. I can relate… @duran.

      Hot day @ Anoxia. Water corn, Rake leaves. Actually too hot even for motorcycle.

      Of bigbigphakeholiday 4 July… remembering how much Premier Kissoff loves surprises… That and NPS-Z. Hal shrilly calls of nukesnifferplane moved to FOB… yet up until the metastatic cascade of violence is triggered, it doesn’t have to happen…and I do wonder if some people have not been told that they themselves are in rifle sights, personally in the cross-hairs. Wanna bet? Stumpy gives poor odds.

      Best! P

    • #15803
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      AHH, sorry for this very late reply re Twitter .. Yes, lots of changes and also it was cut in France, so those cuts may have reached strange places.

      I have a Twitter account but I never tweet.  So, they will probably get to me as well.   My account is there only for following others and I have a big bunch of private lists in there, i.e., not visible to the public.  Telegram has announced TG Stories.  I’ve not looked at it, but it will be a big headache if my Twitter lists disappear as I have all the Chinese that tweet in English in there.  Better go and make a list of my list.

    • #15805
      AHH
      Keymaster

      Re: ““that amazing rejoinder” ? I lost the track, Brother. No comprendo.”

      No worries Mr P. Several of us took umbrage and vented at the wild rejoinder. We about ruptured a spleen and spit out a lung in the process… maybe the old man was trolling us, bored in Tinseltown?? He certainly got our attention!

      “they were trying to get me to see the story as a lesson in the good. I was mildly appalled.” 😂 Lol! We are, like the poor nazi-loving Finns, overeducated and not so susceptible to death-marches or suicide charges, eh?? If they didn’t exist, they would hadda invent these stories for the next crop of cannon-fodders. Maybe at the dawn of “civilization,” alongside prostitution, the art of convincing lemmings to get themselves killed for the profit of Oligarchs, err, sorry, I meant the honorable and one of the Five original Professions of Soldiering, came into being?? Is there anything new under our tired Sun?

      “It was particularly hard on the native tribes and the working class Anglos.”
      IIRC, this was how many Italians hated by the Anglos were admitted to USA?? They were reluctant for centuries. But they were the hardiest and best survived the yellow fever, malaria and other disease in the South. The Irish had been dropping lies flies before them.. The world had come to Rome and immunized the Italians, lol. I think the same considerations in the building of the Panama Canal…

      And Biowarfare is an ancient Pirate tradition. When I saw that trebuchet on the current Chronicles banner, my first thought was the earlier catapult versions had done double-duty heaving over ripe carcasses and corpses bulging with Black Death and other terrible pestilence. As the crazies fully abandon civilization, I can see them reverting to their favored orgies of death against helpless civilians.

      OK dear Amarynth. This is sad about Twitter. A form of censorship, no? Another victim of loss in the Ukraine and need to control Narratives even tighter… Twitter had become so effective in debunking so much of their political BS and games… but we will find a way. Maybe this is what Telegram needs to get to the next level. Even Snowdon was complaining he can no longer use it.. Or maybe if after enough of Twitter collapses, they will reverse it? Or new software will arise that allows us to continue monitoring again without sign-ins…. Please keep us Luddites informed, thx

      ZZzzzzzzzz……………

      Flotsam from the Maelstrom – “gasping” 

      (1) The literally-sinking Netherlands attempt to head off contagion spreading from France?? Or a coincidence on the Daily Menu of Wokeness? No. They know what Uncle and Perfide have planned for them. Europe is entering its Time of Troubles….

      (2) ➡️ btw, regarding Poland’s mooted request for US nukes on its territory, to which Medvedev responded so eloquently, perhaps the Poles were instructed to speak by Master? It appears a week ago, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists reported Alexander Vershbow, American former Deputy Sec Gen of NATO, also urged tactical nukes deployments in Europe be expanded… It gets ever zanier and nutter. That may have informed the crudeness of Medvedev’s response. And it didn’t appear mere Hyperbole. The demented prepare the ground in every direction for the use of their remaining gun on the wall…

    • #15816
      Mr P
      Participant

      Oh! I get it…the “several decades” from Brother L445… We, he and I, disagree. I had read it, it’s an opinion. Where we disagree is in the assumptions of imperatives. I estimate that it is not realistic to assume a constant rate of degeneration, nor of ascendancy. I estimate that Russia is constitutionally obliged to “interfere” inside the US…mostly because there are so many dangerous “lose cannons, and lost canons”. The silly propaganda about “Russian interference” is BS right now…but it’s the gun on the wall in act one. The US won’t have, does not have, decades. Like the fellas say motus in fine velocior.

      Longtimeago I used to subscribe to wallstreetjournl…and there read story of innate stability of USA juxtaposed to innate instability of filthlygodlesscommieussr. The idea being that if DC were vaporized the Country would take the hit and recover within the Customs and Laws, unchanged…but! Ah! If Moscow were vaporized, the USSR and Russia would disintegrate into a vast sea of disparate statelets, all at war with one-another. Obviously, I thought about it. It may have been a serious, if wishful, speculation in 1975, but I had doubts even then. So?

      No responsible prevailing power is going to permit the insane and ruthless, delusional, fascists to keep nuclear and biological “machinery” without “discipline”…which means Power…and Mao told us whence comes Power. It’s a brutal logic, but the US zone gets occupied, probably by invitation and without violence. Well, without very much violence…it remains to be seen. Maybe Mr Texas will get his ride in Ruskie APC through Houston. If the Comrade gets to Anoxia and sees the flag and stops, it’s vodka or tea….rote fane uber r

      Meantime, US military recruiters reject 91%, I hear…too stupid, too sick, too addicted, too ignorant…and that’s with specially low “standards”… and the military families that “supplied” fodderunits for generations are advising their kids to avoid the military. Thus closes 80% of enlistments… Never mind the practical aspect…this means the young men are functionally in rebellion, they will not fight. What’s left is mercenary and dangerous and without loyalty…gangs. Good luck with the “decades”…

      That’s why I didn’t bother to shake the argument. Red Army is just getting started.

      All this would have been avoided if Wallace had been on the ticket in ’44, All this would have been avoided if the State had kept to the Constitution. And the first use would not have already happened. What would Benjamin Franklin, er “Prudence Goodbody” have said?

      Best! P

      Best! P

    • #15817
      Mr P
      Participant

      ………….about the BAS bit… dispersing the bombs is done to make less effective any possible enemy attack on the bomb storage bunker. The article is saturated with rote repetitions of bald falsehoods, of course. Dispersal will be duly noted in Kremlin, and moves tension a notch up the “launch perimeter” scale. I think the machine require a very well controlled storage… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium  for example can change phase from ductile to brittle, more or less for no reason…and that phuckzup the plan to squish the pretty ball. I am sure there are all sorts of good reasons for the controlled environment…but these are going to be set aside in favor of preparations for third use, or 4th…we’ll see. Anyway Comrade Putin and the fellas will note implications. I knew a guy I hired for a few days, he’d been a mechanic on B-61 bombs. He was a little crazy, but a good worker. There are no material secrets. Just stuff people don’t bother to read.

      Author coruscates > ” While the United States and its allies must manage the risks of nuclear escalation carefully, defeating Putin, restoring Ukrainian sovereignty, and reinforcing the rules-based order must be our priorities.”

      Ok, analyze for semantic value. Add facts. The only rational situation in which using a nuke makes sense is when you’re losing. He’s admitted that the US is losing, as it is impossible to do what he claims are the priorities, so he’s saying they’re going to do it.

      Oh how very fine are the multitude of examples for lessons in the English Department! In the old days people studied rhetoric, and grammar, even spelling!  The Standards at BAS give the tells… collapse.

      BTW, note the claim that the only rational use…implies that the US lost W2. It did, see?

      Molecular cracking process takes Time…but it began with Truman. And the proof of lost W2 is there, everywhere, to see.

      Best! P

       

      • #15822
        AHH
        Keymaster

        Yes, if we honestly acknowledge most Anglo-American Banksters and Titans of Industry and leading Families and Money were in heart & spirit (and many through mutual interests) with the Wehrmacht, and most Allied troops were cruely misinformed and oblivious to the big picture… then Globalhomonazidom suffered a devastating loss in 1945. The two bombs, as acknowledged, bought them time to recuperate, rearm, and redeploy against the North and East.. we find ourselves in the third act of an epic trilogy!

        The deliberate process under way is terrifying. The decision appears to have been made. Russia appears to have reconciled to it? In 2011, I remember Arnie Gunderson worrying more about the spent rods pool than the actual core, which was housed in much stronger concrete.. I hope the equivalent pools at Z-NPP are better protected.

        Certainly all steps short of a direct massive bunker buster being dropped were taken. They cut the electrical supply. The blowing of the dam deprived it of most cooling water. The intent was broadcast for over a year. The strident PR rolled out when it became clear no offensives would take the Crimean land bridge. RUSI helped shape the creative re-definition of Article V. And so on. A regular purposeful drumbeat and rhythm of inevitability.

        What else has Russia done?? I would think the logistics of removing all the rods and radioactive material would be beyond their capabilities during a war..

        How can such rank evil be suppressed, and if not, retaliated against?! The crime in motion just boggles the mind. On what terms is coexistence on our plane possible with such as coldbloodedly discharge such operations?

        Have they decided to take the path of lesser evil, to let the West irradiate itself? They have the medications and food from other regions which can be shipped in for several decades. Remedies exist to speed up recovery. I read somewhere Russian scientists discovered a bacteria which actually degrades radioactive matter!

    • #15821
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      We’ve seen the start of the Great Losing this past week!  Big Time!   Even Ukrainian Zalushni (reconstituted) says so.  He has no more military.  Stick a fork in it, its done!   Little fat ladies singing everywhere, still hiding under the furniture, but they be singing!

       

      • #15823
        AHH
        Keymaster

        The optimistic tune of our times?! I know, I know. Reimagine the lyrics.. Mos-cow ; Bei-jing ?? Teh-ran ; Ri-o ?? Cai-ro ; Cape-Town!

    • #15831
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      A little bit more happiness:

      • #15832
        AHH
        Keymaster

        Kokomo was once my fav song, when I had just arrived in USA..

        I’ve been unable to sleep since reading that terrible article! Such dark fatalism by Medvedev. And justified. Here’s more balm:

    • #15845
      Mr P
      Participant

      Yes indeed, it is entirely unrealistic to remove the “stuff”. In a sense, imho, NPP-Z is not defensible. Oh yes, it is defended, but stationary targets are stationary targets, that this target is “pregnant”. So? How defend the indefensible? Indirectly.

      “Go-!” said he sternly then. “We will call it a stand-off, a Mexican stand-off, you lose your money, but you save your life!” (ostensibly) F. Harvey Smith, Sunday Mercury, New York, 1876″ (wiki)

      What that would be in the present circumstance? I imagine, it might involve “rifle-sights” and certain back-channel communications.  https://youtu.be/4OcM23Hbs5U (Walter Huston is a trip! Sierra Madre “badges”) Recalling that technical means to blast from one side of Earth to ‘tother and hit a designated office chair exists, aheem.

      Hot, again… very democratic, hot in summer, cold in winter. This is nice.

      Best! P

    • #15848
      AHH
      Keymaster

      What if there exists a perverse “fail-safe” on the Perfidious side? That which permits plans to proceed, regardless of how many little hydra-heads are decapitated? And who’s really in charge of the Blob? Does it have a real head anymore which can be pruned? There are paradigms like this throughout nature — of “the hive mind.” Noxious like minds driving themselves onwards in a headless mindless fashion. This may be a consciously selected survival mechanism too, as they anticipate the fight will be brought home to them… to heighten their group odds of prevailing even if a few individuals or teams bite the bullet.

      What if the core “CPU” ain’t even human, but a malignant sentient A.I. as maintained by some geeks and Eschatologists?

      Medvedev’s agony is telling… Rooskies may be reconciling themselves to the inevitable against the unfathomable.

      btw, I dont get that last piece about shamans. How does it relate to Medvedev?

    • #15850
      Mr P
      Participant

      Ah! Yes, well…well then we shall witness FA>FO product retraction. Highly exothermic, I imagine.

      In the Red Hunt 1950 phase my teachers were terrorized, as most had been involved with communism, like most US people, in the 1930’s…the working people anyway, and the state colleges. They taught in subtle coded way.

      First grade> “Class, if everybody else jumped off a bridge, would you also jump?” No kidding!

      camlania  ……… https://archive.ph/1WH2d   see> “By the way, the dependence on agricultural products and food products from our country has been recognized everywhere, hence the endless camlania on the topic of grain deals. Although it is already clear to everyone that in its current form it is not needed and must be terminated without fail. We will be able to help our partners anyway, but it is not our task to feed the fat – faced European burghers. To do this, they have their own old and bald “liver sausage” there, as well as a lot of highly educated gynecologists who brilliantly rule the European economy.” (Med) Man, the cat is a fine writer…after the Red Victory I hope I get to read his books.

      Just the editor-mind snatching new words…and teasing out meaning, implications.

      https://youtu.be/T5al0HmR4to  (Bobby, H Rain..)

      Best! P

      • #15857
        AHH
        Keymaster

        camlania: OK! Yeah I remember reading it. I interpreted the gist, assuming translation error, and quickly moved on and forgot about it. That’s how I learned much of the English language you know. Father had an extensive library and I was too lazy to keep looking up so many complex words from books I took without permission and read while supposed to be asleep. After a while, in context, most words become quite clear. You went down a rabbit hole, lol! I don’t think Medvedev was being cute or too philosophical this time. This was a message to ordinary people on both sides and above all to uncultured and simple-minded degenerate miseducated western elites – what you see is what you get. He even wrote a Tik Tok-length summary of the key point in his Telegram this morning, which i posted in the article post.

        Re: “it is not our task to feed the fat – faced European burghers. To do this, they have their own old and bald “liver sausage” [Olaf Scholz] there, as well as a lot of highly educated gynecologists [von der Lügen] who brilliantly rule the European economy.”

        I really chortled reading this and other passages. Then the terror of the key point made me forget about everything else. So much bitter wit dripping out. Isn’t satire and wit the appropriate way to accept the ongoing madness?? At least they shall be mocked on the way to being incinerated….

        I spoke of this before. The communication line between Medvedev and western elites hasn’t been this red hot perhaps in over a century, since the Tzar’s days. The Soviets were more restrained and cold towards the ideological enemy.. But Putin’s cadre was essentially a junior member for a decade and knows their enemy inside out. The sense of betrayal and aggrievement with Gorby and Yeltsin is incandescent. The resultant disillusionment and contempt is epic and delicious to behold.

        And it flies over the heads of most and is never reported in western media. But the desired recipients, desperate little cowardly schmucks glued to social media divining what remains to them of worthless lives, receive the message and howl at the moon, lol 🤣😂 What we’re privy too is exceptional in human history, thanks to instant internet and the modern global village. Live History in the making, and the existential thrusts and counter-thrusts conducted lustily in the public domain, for those who can discern it… Public diplomacy, in color and with warts, as never experienced.

    • #15851
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      Do read this … planning, or rather not planning but leaving space, for evolution, fast evolution.

      https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202306/1292788.shtml

      Also, punishment comes:

      Eivor Vågslid

      @Eivor_Koy

      In order to safeguard national security and economic interests, China’s Ministry of Commerce and General Administration of Customs announced export restrictions on gallium and germanium-related goods on July 3.

      This statement goes into effect on August 1, 2023. Gallium and germanium are both critical elements for #chip manufacturing. China produces 96% of the world’s raw #gallium, a soft, bluish metal used in making chipsets, while no US domestic gallium has been recovered since 1987.

      The US depends on imports for 100 percent of its gallium supply – and on China for 53 percent of those imports.

      Gallium is also one of 35 elements that the #US government calls a national security concern.

      The announcement came just before US Treasury Secretary #Yellen was scheduled to travel to China. After the chip prohibitions imposed by the #Biden administration and #Blinken’s pompous trip to China, the Chinese have concluded that the United States is not to be trusted.

      This sends a clear message to the United States that imposing chip bans or other sanctions on #China will only result in the downfall of the United States.

      • #15860
        AHH
        Keymaster

        Dear A, it is far more than just those two metals which were just blocked. Mr P and I spoke of the global noble gas production in this thread on May 02 and May 03 – see end of his and my response which follows, linking to Lineaments.

        Maybe 95% of the world’s noble gases production before the SMO took place in just three countries: 404, Russia and China! Russia + 404 made about 90%.. And 404 has completely shut down since most of the way of making these expensive gases is as a byproduct of huge steel works, extremely energy-intensive, all which which were in the industrial Novorossiya. Mariupol may have had largest share??? Even Odessa foundries producing these gases were forced to shut down due to lack of electricity/energy after General Armageddon’s softening up air campaign… So they got the West literally by the short hairs on multiple essential pre-cursors, not just metals…

        However I have a dark vision of all this. The crazies aren’t really looking to decouple, relocate and hog the tech. They want to deindustrialize and deconstruct modern industrial civilization itself, like they are doing to Germany and USA.. absolute beasts. You can tell where a system wants to go by whom it places into power.. they are a wrecking-crew. So the trade war is the Excuse, to level all and BBB later. Pure satanism and lusting to return to medieval feudalism..

        A hint is their prior M.O.: (1) how the Ukie war is the Excuse for Sanctions from Hell, to regiment mankind and scare them away from multipolarity, i.e. Hegemonic maintenance. (2) Before that, COVID-19 was the Excuse to destroy most economies (depress demand, keep USD on life-support, bring in capital into USA), sever global supply chains, and upload the mRNA experimental voodoo into most humans. So going by past crimes, we can infer (3) hard, extremely violent and catastrophic decoupling from China is in the cards as the Excuse to finish the job. Lagarde warned in her famous 7-7 IMF speech in 2014 that seven good years would be followed by seven terrible ones; 2021-2028/2030 will be their window to take down competitors and all rivals and independent loci around the world for their demented Great Reset/NWO, which is their one-trick pony

    • #15853
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      In relation to the above, Larch hopes that as things shake out, the US will be welcomed as a participant to the world around the round table.

      I see that only in many many years.  I wonder Mr P, is that a regular feeling US side?  For me, from the outside, I see the anger, and only many years and many real actions of goodwill may change that.

    • #15856
      Mr P
      Participant

      Well, I took the oath. And keep it. But not blind. I think the US will be lost from the discipline of the nazi cadre and dissolve according to the “reagent” conditions – and “chemical” reactions. These take time…how “molar” is the soultion? (that’s a pun). How “hot”? 3 meals to riot….A violent and horrible process. Now, obviously, well begun. I expect it will go on, until it don’t. I hope they leave us here @ Anoxia alone. Maybe they will. Nobody can say. The cities are self-nuked already.

      It seems that there is no US. What we see is simulacrum, a shadow. Persistence of image.

      What they design to do to the world, will befall they themselves. Everybody knows. Most people are both optimistic and resigned to let the Fates roll, ’cause everybody knows they will. Of course individual “churches of ways of seeing”, tinted glasses…some of these are bald racist ideas, some are crazy, some are smart and decent, they vary, but everybody knows. We went a-drivin’ in the hinterlands to-day, and everybody waved hello…lambs and goats and some Brahma cattle. A smallish coyote. They all know they’re getting screwed…and enemy of my enemy is probably being thought….since they all know they’re being lied to.A neighbor, one Sunday, braced me with a warning that that in a few years we would have to defend our neighborhood again’ “Islamic Turrusts”…I gave him a beer. It’s in the air, we’re phucked…we just don’t know how badly or which special ways. Hereabout, the native families and the whites from the gold rush are now antediluvian, admixed…and everybody knows what happened here. Baldy, extermination by gun and death march. Forgiven. Not forgotten. They just want to run their businesses and be left to get on in peace. But elsewhere! Ah…I’d rather not look.

      Calling Professordocktor Panarin…

      https://youtu.be/2M584bP_FeE   (Sedaka)

      https://youtu.be/Gxd23UVID7k (Lenard C)

      https://youtu.be/2KEHeOfgwyE (Eagles)

      Best! P

       

    • #15858
      emersonreturn
      Participant

      amarynth, before our current dictatorship we in the pacific northwest, along with the 3 prairie provinces, were openly sending trade commissions in hopes of courting china, & business sectors of agriculture, oil, coal, timber & raw resources business were very  keen to be part of the bri.  new ports were being built, discussions related to trade routes through the arctic were avidly discussed in the business sections of newspapers.   it’s hard to remember we very much viewed china’s bri with the same enthusiasm the global majority (ty, lavrov) nurture & enjoy.   a return is i agree years/decades away now.   i expect oz will recover her good sense long before we in canada do.

       

      ZZZZzzzz

      medvedev’s essay carries a feeling that hope is all that’s left to us.  hope being the last ground granted the hopeless.  yet he continues to deliver hope with crystal truth & reason to the global majority & those of us stranded here in empire.   we are indebted.

      my floundering attempt to address the effect the mutiny had upon russia was badly drawn, & i apologize.  i shall endeavour to do better.  medvedev’s essay affirms that my speculations were rooted in more than improbable & spurious notions.

      medvedev is visibly shaken, & profoundly changed, as are putin, lavrov & shoigu.  i propose there were elements long known to putin’s team which schemed within russia to upend & execute a regime change in deluded hope of bringing a return to the heady days of oligarchic rule.  i believe these actors were followed, & when the time arrived russia upended their treasonous dreams & goals.  we have heard nothing about how this unfolded in russia, other than the agreed fact that treason had been dealt with & by all publicly repeatedly labelled for what it was: treason. earth shattering & irrevocably horrible.   possibly before the chef began his trek to rostov?  it was thoroughly exquisitely tended & finally stopped.

      medvedev has not told us how close we came, simply the omission of actually publicly documenting empire’s transgression & attack upon russia with the intent of inciting a coup by means of mutiny carries a deafening blinding shock throughout.  how close mother came we shall not know for years.  mother stopped the treachery in its tracks.  putin’s anger, & his attention given to the dead pilots, highlights for me how far, how deep empire struck mother.  with the full expectation of victory.

      empire lost.  thank god.  mother survived.  & has chosen in her sane & sober wisdom to contain & conceal the full extent of this assault, truly nuclear in its intention, to avoid bringing us to full on nuclear war.

      russia, china, iran, the global majority are very clear that the end of civilization is to be avoided & the promise of peace, prosperity & global harmony are the agreed goal.

       

       

       

       

       

    • #15859
      Mr P
      Participant

      Dear Emerson… I think you’re about right. I note that such an attempt upon the Russian State may be seen as an attack within the protocols for nuclear use. As in “threaten the existence of..”

      Stumpy says Mickey says that when you got to knock a guy off, if you screw it up, then you have bigbigproblem, as in “now you are the target”. Stauffenberg comes to mind.

      I assume that from this time the special explosives will be on the optional list. They have been on the nazi optional list since 1945…so it’s sorta natural.light reading Once Bear become fully aroused…

      Best! P

       

    • #15861
      emersonreturn
      Participant

      blessings, MrP, i agree you are right.  russia was within the protocols of nuclear war.  empire banks on mother, china  & the global majority to work ceaselessly to avoid nuclear war.

      this assault is infinitely more worrying than the caribbean catastrophe.   my deceased husband was @ mit when that crisis erupted, the halls, labs emptied in seconds, everyone panicked, knowing what was unfolding they rushed either to stock up on essentials, kissed tenure farewell & fled to the hills or shot themselves in the head.   these were all first rate minds, unlike today’s academics lacking the slightest notion of the peril or consequences.  to mark the depth of the failed coup, russia delivered empire an ungloved smack across its cheek, & within short hours she took out those delirious nato generals, sipping champagne & lines of coke.

      • #15864
        AHH
        Keymaster

        empire banks on mother, china  & the global majority to work ceaselessly to avoid nuclear war.

        There comes a point though of diminishing returns. The madmen have hitched all their wagons to the opposing side’s horse of restraint. And keep breaking all taboos and red lines!

        I wonder if Russia will work to change the dynamic now. Its restraint is clearly being used against it. And if enough have come to Medvedev’s PoV (and why would he be permitted to publish if most or significant numbers hadn’t?) they may up the ante now, in last attempt to shock them out of the stuporous march off the cliff. See my comment in Chronicles about “Anadyr.”

        I think there is a theory of escalating to deescalate, at the least to break the catastrophic circuit. Everything will be attempted to avoid the approaching conflagration..

    • #15865
      Mr P
      Participant

      what else to say?

      If this were a soap opera we’d now have some criminal family running th’ banana republic. And such juntas tend to fall to military coup. I mean, they have the guns, right?

      FA>FO reaction very interesting.

      It may be that decision has been taken, specific plans in review. Such my gut whispers.

      I do wonder if Comrade Medvedev does not read here, in “spare time”… If so… Well howdy !

      Best! P

    • #15867
      AHH
      Keymaster

      Well we’ve all got Questions this July…. here’s an interesting Answer

      Oh Sudhi, your fav Ornella has been updated since 1971! 😅 this is as good

      • #15916
        Sudhi
        Participant

        I would say it’s quite difficult to copy dulcet the tone of Ornella Vanoni when evoking yearning, nostalgia, and melancholy for something that has been truly lost.

        This song presents an interesting date,
        who would know …

        • #15919
          AHH
          Keymaster

          Yeah Sudhi, Papa was a rollin Stone is one of Pepe’s favs too. He used it to mock the crazies in one of his tweets or Telegrams last year..  I like the beat too.

          You’re right. Her wistfulness was unique. And Italy was really going to hell in 70s, like much of the west then. The illusory 30 Golden Years had been up. The 1971 end of Bretton Woods, defeat in Vietnam, 1973 Arab-Israeli/West war, Oil crunch and rise in prices, the real start of deindustrialization.. It was as much a lament and dirge for a West that was gone.

          Maybe that’s why I preferred the other Italian, he was full of hope and promise for the future. In 2006, singing in the beautiful Lake Las Vegas in front of adoring fans, before the 2008 financial meltdown, and with the gorge still full with the meat of 1990s Russia, and before Russia declared itself in 2007 Munich Conference, it was really the good times with a warm glow. They were still partying like it was 1999! Don’t most of us prefer false Hopes to true Laments?

          • #15920
            AHH
            Keymaster

            There’s no good left in the US music industry. Packaged like Hollywood by nefarious handlers.. the best songs and tunes (the chart toppers pushed by the industry) all compromised. Includes this song by the Temptations.. 3rd of Sep = 3.09 = 3 x 9 = (law of reversal in occult) 3 x 6 or 3 of 6s = 666 (!)

            So who is “the father,” this amoral, rollin stone they praise and celebrate? 🤔😐

            Most of typical lyrics are even more explicit, out in plain view, but who reads or listens carefully?

    • #15868
      Mr P
      Participant

      The gas problem touches everything. Some are fairly common, like argon…(about 1% of air is argon) but getting it smooshed into a can at 3000psi is not a backyard project. The sexy gasses are much harder to capture and clean up…fractional distillation and probably catalysts too….mucho kilowatthours. Build machine to do this? Start with the foundry, casting pump casings and motor frames…takes several years, and that’s if you really care.

      Pretty much can’t run a muffler shop without argon.

      I think you’re right. De-industrialization. Some screwy female pol in US circus show said “we don’t need farms anymore since we have grocery stores”… Mrs P caught that one… But not everybody is bald stupid. It must be by design, some insane fantasy…”Were such things here as we do speak about? Or have we eaten on the insane root. That takes the reason prisoner?”

      Meantime Operation Anadyr, for the fellas reading along, has wiki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Anadyr

      Evidently a false comrade, they say one Oleg Penkovsky blew the gag to MI6 and the fellas.

      Naturally they say this saved the day. This is a tautological claim. It’s interesting to speculate as to how the operation would have worked if the treason had not screwed it up. The armament was very impressive.

      It’s a mystery to me what modern complex “Oak” is, but VVP was quoted in Pravda…and now even one Corvette missile boat…

      Best! P

       

    • #15887
      AHH
      Keymaster

      to be fair Mr P, i learned the big vocab and literary english ahead of my time through voracious reading, but I did have excellent formal education too. Ironically my high school was in USA, and in the New England of Ms. Dickinson. I had classmates from Amherst city too. Before HS I was in Europe and Africa and whilst my peers goofed around I stayed home and read; father was a task-master. When I came to the USA, I found the reverse happening – increasingly outdoors into sports and less time for reading. But the foundation had already been laid. Still, we had conscientious teachers, and my mentor was a History teacher.. There apparently remained pockets with preserved rigorous education into 80s…

      Re: “If this were a soap opera we’d now have some criminal family running th’ banana republic.”

      Lol! 🤣😂Freudian slip?! I’d say we have all three scenarios in front of our amazed eyes! Hunter’s and Senile Dad’s daily soap opera, the Criminal Big Man and Prodigious Son trail of tears from the Ukraine to the MIC and biolabs and sundry money washing, and a comfortably numb Banana Republic enjoying the show… In early 80s I used to be stuck home with mother watching JR Ewing and the Dallas crime family in German. It prepared me well for these days!

      ZZzzzzzzzz……………

      Flotsam from the Maelstrom – “the white good stuff” 

      (1) Hunter’s vital accoutrements caused a WH scene. I didn’t prescribe it!

      (2) How Persians had ice in the 40 C heat of their summers — in 400 BC! And the West wants to submit this civilization! 🤣😂 on this factor alone, you know they’ve become batshit crazy. There are similar in other cultures around the world. I read of Saladin bringing his crusader guests ice cream in the scorching Syrian summer too. They shoulda taken the first offer over pleasant ice! Putin and Russians weren’t the only with such bargaining styles, lol

      (3) Dastardly Limeys want stalactite-like icicles in every home and depopulation this very next winter. I sure hope Older Alex stays in saner Suisse or hightails it back to the Aegean. The open proud criminality in motion is breathtaking. Only the Brits could carry it off! (Read the comments below article… do class-conscious Brits know a thing or two about their Eugenicist overlords??)

    • #15889
      AHH
      Keymaster

      “Germany can no longer meet its demand with domestically generated power.” Neither the current set of elites nor the transatlantic alliance will survive due to their suicidal ideology…

    • #15897
      Mr P
      Participant

      As we know, industrial civilization runs on oxidation reactions. True whether it’s food or fuel or “energy” in the handy form of electric power. That this could take place is beyond words. Utterly insane. Mass murder in somewhat slow motion…gee! what’s that up ahead?

      We had, I think, similar educations, up to a point. I never fit in very well. Fate released me from discipline too soon, and that made a difference. I became a sort of “anthropologist”…or Candide, present, and also a shadow. Interestingly, I think, Mother too had wanderlustic nature…full scholarship to Stanford at 16, a job, and a shared apartment in Palo Alto…only to accede to her father’s wishes and go home…in 1932, I think. Anyway, my roguish behavior was understood sympathetically. If Father had lived longer… well! I wonder about that. I wonder how much choice we really have.

      The coal stations “de-commissioning” sounds like “scrapping”. If so, the machinery is probably lost to the fellas that buy old steam machines and re-sell them. Turbines get repurposed in canneries and such, for example I’ve installed marine Elliot turbines from ships to run tomatopaste pumps.  Anyway, no turning the plants back on, ever.

      Funny powder… I have seen in acute amphetamine cases the dope fiend get so out of it that they forget where they put it, or just leave the stuff on the seat…you know. So? The kid lost his dope. Duh. Ahseenitafore. I have sent those guys home without a drug test. Once. Next time no more Mr Nice Guy…grow up! It worked ok.

      Icemachine… Well they did it first…I guess. But Franklin did it in London iirc, ethanol evap. I shall savor the video! Thanks!

      Meantime, fits and starts and I’m gaining on my solar project. Fuses and DC breakers. Boyscoutphysics. But bad choices in machine building can be lethal. Anoxia too may not have electricity, someday. Speaking of argon…I shall have to pay the cost.

      Best! P

    • #15915
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      Major disengagement of minds.

      I’m always too late to add my comments here.  Stupid stupid question.  We have an example already.  See what happened to Macron (before the current meltdown) and angled for a BRICS invitation.  NO, NYET, FU Smartly!  was the answer.

      That answers my question.

    • #15917
      Mr P
      Participant

      Yes, it really is a complex and intricate “play”. Our little fella…and his mom. How wonderful! Nyet! Indeed. Very droll.

      In a perhaps roguish path, here we’ll see a picture.

      Now then…write captions…pretend you do not know the people, and be a bit cute too.

      https://archive.ph/6XMO8

      I have a pretty good idea what Stumpy would write. Of course he’s always tryin’ for a group discount.

      (sorry, I just couldn’t help it!)

      Best! P

    • #15923
      Mr P
      Participant

      Usage> “Banana republic”… about the time that Bushie v Goreya was decided illegally by the Court, Andy Rooney did his routine on CBS “60 minutes” as a telephone skit… chatting with an imaginary foreigner. Brother Andy> “Yes, it is a lot like a banana republic…” and so forth. Anyway, since the label has been applied by august CBS, who am I to avoid it? This skit, tellingly, soon went poof. I applaud the re-election of whatever stooge the fascist junta proposes.  Let us exceed the paltry 81 million votes for the guy who campaigned by the basement! macht durch gefälschte Wahlen! https://youtu.be/_2WwxFMAynI (Big Muddy) Best! P

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