The Hearty Salon, 15 Jan 2025 … Open Thread

[AHH]

2026 so far

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[Mr P]

ICE hire, thrilling process!… https://x.com/Suzierizzo1/status/2011681294648783183

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Papers!

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[Mr P]

I note that Borzzikman said the pilot of the F16 spoke english without an accent… presumably an American fella. Evidently he was chattering on the radio..how else? This implies some pretty fancy electronics in the S-300 machine.

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Military Summary….https://youtu.be/v0lF_5850s0  ……….cold in zone 404, and getting colder.

I find the BBC “news” – lies and propaganda – provides an insight into some very adroit rhetorical method, useful for the student writer no doubt. The topics and the matters not spoken of are soft indicators of the nazi plans…also useful to understanding. They employ traitors, and thus is available some insight into the character of such people. Also useful…see (note “dot”)  https://www.radio-uk[dot]co.uk/bbc-world-service

Here’s MS

[Mr P]

Inside China…copper heads to the sky. I am recalling that Michael Hudson, marxist, thoughtfully made purchases of copper producers and so forth when the US began the bigbig rodeo in zone Viet Nam… He said “I realized that in a war the soldiers might as well be throwing bars of copper at each other, so I bought accordingly…” Words to that effect anyway. see…https://youtu.be/Lm2chhuLKJY  So? When the war, war 3, if you like… is anticipated so earnestly  that big money is going for this beautiful element. A predictor of some dark times ahead, or maybe some more subtle or even happy things… we’ll see. Mike, by the way, made bank on his purchases. 

 

[Mr P]

Comrade Krapivnik and Glen Diesen chat about the war…say the obvious about Odessa….

The fellas ..………https://youtu.be/TfDsqffTcgk

the film clip everyone knows…https://vk.com/video39241256_156794141

[Mr P]

Scotty ‘splainin’ ’bout “de-bankin’ “….https://youtu.be/XcrkoTloTn8  Take the lesson, squirrel some treasure – mind you, if the cops ever count it, they’ll pocket most of it.  Scotty’s chattin’ with da judge feller. Stumpy says he leaves a little in his safe for the cops to steal, that way they won’t search too hard…for his stash. Sez some people even put a little coin-bag with a gram of roach powder in there too.   😉                 

 

[Mr P]

Two, count ’em two! 

Greenland Defense Force

Democratic Penguins Republic

 

[emersonreturn]

thank you, Mr P.   i’ve share the second with the friend who shared the first…it’s very happy making that orange has generated something great & good.

[Mr P]

Thanks! One of the pleasant things about these times are the cartoons. But speaking of Greenland… I see RT/ in German Trump droht wegen Gronland weiter  ie he continues to threaten Greenland… But speaking of conflict… I want to proffer a quote from a fella that teaches “conflict resolution” at Rutgers…quote from Crosstalk at RT, where he’s a guest…

“Reality is almost always dictated by the most insane person in the room.” (Michael Rossi, see https://rutgers.academia.edu/MichaelRossi and  also….https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/631017-world-aggression-upside-down/ )

Recalling the principle of rectification of names.. 😉 the good doctor Rossi seems to have muddled the meanings. “Reality” can be dictated? Is limited to a space? Insanity has gradation?  Insanity defines reality? He said he uses this quote in the introduction to his course on Conflict Resolution. “Rooms” have doors…  I don’t see how, with a basis of muddled and contradictory names, meanings, anything can be resolved. Now then, if he had said: “Problems can be understood by clarity of perception.”…or “Insanity (or fantasy or delusion) creates temporary problems.” Alas he did not. His quote does provide some basis for thought, and criticism.

A learned sage looked into this question of conflict, and said: “All conflict arises from errors in perception, errors in perception are unavoidable in dynamic existence.” I wish doctor Rossi knew that… The application of this truth to the matter implied in “resolution”, ie that resolution is possible without conflict, very often without violence, would re-shape the question. Reality has shown that the judicious use of violence has always been a useful tool in the resolution of conflict…as any prize-fight will illustrate. Sadly, however, violent actions, however inevitable, are seldom fully judicious. Alas!

[emersonreturn]

Mr P, i vaguely recall  the board of Noble Energy (re: gas fields off shore of Palestine) as being noteworthy…i don’t suppose Noble Capital RSD is remotely related.  co-incidence or a fondness for their personage or peerage.

 

https://tass.com/politics/2072523

[Mr P]

Interesting claim. Seems like the idea is to create an excuse to steal the “frozen” loot…

Senior Russian legislator slams US fund’s suit for ‘tsarist debts’ as legal aggression – Russian Politics & Diplomacy – TASS

fragment TASS>

“”Second, the sanctions context immediately draws our attention. The claim repeatedly references sanctions and Russia’s sovereign assets. For instance, the plaintiff asserts that ‘the debt on the Russian Empire’s bonds can be repaid using Russia’s sovereign assets blocked in the U.S. due to sanctions’,” he added.”

Noting that sanctions, absent the UNSC, are acts of war, and illegal…as such ahbetcha the injured party has standing to sue for damages…two can play.

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[Mr P]

Avastdar! Salty Sal report latest pirate thefts in zone Carib...him say: UPDATE On US Tanker Seizures in the Caribbean | Six Supertankers Are in US Possession | What Next?

Piracy is a universal crime…pretty soon the pirates find out what’s next…find out? Yeah, all about it.

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Lady Z speaks blunt...Russia’s ULTIMATUM To NATO As Troops Land In Greenland; ‘If You Don’t Stop, You Will Face Severe…’

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Neutrality Studies… nice idea there “neutrality”, but not so easy to be these days…if ever.

The West Got Regime Changed by the Transatlantic Securitocracy | Nel Bonilla  Ahem not so sure, what about Cheney and his false flag plot? More like internal coup with foreign co-conspirators…but let’s hear the lady’s case…

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[Mr P]

Larry “Gunner” Johnson says Putin announced yesterday that NATO must retreat to border 1991. Of course this is a repeat of the draft ultimatums of 2021. Zone 404 de-energized to force departure of civilians so some read heavy violence may be applied to the nazis that don’t run away. I expected a Policy Change…maybe this is it…as the demand is so strident that mere de-energization of the zone can’t bring it about. More, therefore, is on the way…possibly at sea? Maybe at Cuba? Why not both?

Of the postponed Iran attack there’s a fair discussion…however no mention of the use of dope by the dark force…which is an interesting omission, eh?

see the fellas with judge guy…https://youtu.be/aOBD3Go5X0A

 

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[cronetoo]

My apologizes … I didn’t realize it is AI … FAKE

[Mr P]

No sweat…fergitaboutit… we’d a knowd soon nuf.

[Mr P]

Alex and Alex discuss the matter Gunner Johnson spoke of…new Policy Rus…Interesting that Cuba is given as “an ally” of Rus… missiles an’ oil anybody?  https://youtu.be/yjYg-Ujjr3k

Big speech is worth transcript for analysis.

 

[akidinthecrowd]

Appreciate the lie because you can see it.

Appreciate truth and live it.

[Mr P]

Several people hold the address of 15 January to be of great significance.

Youtube has speech with the typically awkward transcript. Reading that now. Putin’s Address to New Foreign Ambassadors at the Kremlin | RU-EN – YouTube

[emersonreturn]

Mr P, thank you for posting the address!

 

i have a question, query…something well beyond me, i’m hoping you may help:

a friend shared this in regards to iran/internet/starlink.   the starlink key is how starlink implements LLDP (Link Layer Discovery Protocol).  apparently it is not satellites, starlink has in the range of 10 to 12ooo thus are not dependant upon GPS’s 30 or so.   it’s the LLDP & the way starlink implements it.   (LLDP may’ve been created by the pentagram with this back door, if that’s what it is?)  perhaps mother/china/iran found a way to read & disable?      thoughtfully he added a wiki link which took me to world far beyond me…i am hoping given i cannot decipher this you may…perhaps you’ll @ least ascertain its credence.   thank you.

[Mr P]

Alas dear lady, I know nothing of the mechanism of that system. More generally it’s been said that in modern electronics no single individual understands or is capable of understanding – so? Well then it’s a jungle to explore and in which discoveries may occur. Ruskies have well educated intrepid explorers…so do Chinese…zone west too, but their fewer numbers, lower quality and corrupt motivation is significant. The arena is jungle-battleground of systems.

[AHH]

talking of the jungle of clogged-up systems and naked Emperors, remember the famous Policy popularized by the nazi Ledeen: “ … Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business” ??

In the arrived Pathetic Stage, has ambition now shrunk to shooting white suburban soccer moms in the head in broad daylight to raise Fear suitable to warding off #41’s internal lampposts??

[Mr P]

In the Zugzwang Saloon the broke loser kicks over the table and starts shootin’  …unwilling to and  incapable of accepting the fact that he’s lost everything, the farm and friends alike…his 6 shooter is his last hope and imaginary asset, and even that turns to a liability when he pulls it out. The fellas are liable to shoot back, the Possee liable to lynch ‘im. The Brownshirts’ explicit (unofficial) goal is to create fear, push-back, reaction-violence and create the necessary conditions for a credible “necessity” of postponing the elections and arresting “traitors”… The Great Hero Lincoln braved the path… Professor McGargle ‘splaind voting…no matter which shell the mark taps, the pea ain’t there… ’cause there’s ain’t no pea. Ahem innaarrested in what happens after the fatboy cancels hope…’cause then there’s nothing left to lose.

Note iirc the film was silent and titled “The Old Army Game” – the sound remake was “Sally of the Sawdust” … the Professor (McGargle) has a scene that betrays via foreshadowing the real story… that Sally’s a ringer… the scene of the shell game… I can’t find the clip… https://yandex.ru/video/preview/5361708600468046242

Shell Game @ minute 14:40 +

The Old Army Game is a term – the understanding that it conveys is a polite way to refer to a confidence gag, crooked cards, shell game, etc…a crooked game…or as we carnies used to say (an’ yeah ahwuz fer a year, nice folks) a gaff …

Oh Brother… Is you is… clip…what happens when the folks turn…

[Mr P]

Duran 2439 Speaking of postponed elections see…

Alex 1 and Alex 2 not very long. something like for Die Heimat? Yewbetcha!

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[Mr P]

Probably nobody imagines that Charley Kirk was shot with a 30.06… Garland Nixon harkens to his time as a policeman and crime investigation operative, and instructor. I found his 40 minute monologue particularly fascinating. FORMER INVESTIGATOR GARLAND NIXON – THE CHARLIE KIRK ASSASSINATION EVIDENCE MAKES A CLEAR CASE – (it’s obvious that the job was a team effort…what’s less obvious is who had the power to prevent the Utah Police from preserving the crime scene AND the spending authority to have it demolished and paved…)  I wish Garland had raised that…what he did do was show the the patsy didn’t do it.  Who was in charge of the real estate, the killing zone, who had control of all the elements… I think that’s obvious too…

[Mr P]

Jiang Xueqin: Predictions for 2026– Trump, Iran & Empire COLLAPSE Gets right to the beef, no pun intended…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5lCJ0D4DpY

[Mr P]

The Government from Hell, by [the ever-cheerful and optimistic 😉 ] Philip Giraldi – The Unz Review

Ahemtink the nazi duo are going attack Persia, then either get well buggered and then use the bomb, or they will open with the bomb, and then get well buggered. Maybe they’ll chicken out. The good-natured Giraldi does not mention the Russian or Chinese interests in Persia, which are deep and critical to matters of national survival….or the possibility of many nazi solders’ deaths in this splendid experiment.

https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-government-from-hell/

fragment ultimate paragraph:

“That notwithstanding, the US and Israel clearly still intend to carry out regime change in Iran by force once they feel that they have the upper hand militarily speaking. The US is already surging military assets to the Middle East including the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln and some warships from its strike group proceeding to the Middle East from the South China Sea, a roughly week-long trip. The US will also send more bombers to the Middle East, plus fighters and refueling aircraft as well as extra air defenses. However, war is always somewhat of a risky endeavor. And for what it’s worth, though Washington seems unaware of the implications, the real danger in this case might come from the Israeli “Samson Option” policy to use its “secret” nuclear weapons if it is in a situation where its it actually endangered by an attacker, or in this case, a country defending itself. World War 3 anyone? Thank you Mr Trump!”

ENDE

 

 

[Mr P]

Alex and Alex, the elder fellow points out the anschluss 2.0 is not so different from anschluss 1.0 ..

Has the well oranged guy been heard to utter Heil dem Sieg! (Just asking…  😉  )

How about that?

European troops to Greenland… Trump unfazed and unimpressed
The Duran: Episode 2440…………https://youtu.be/6STQuT_kAkA

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[amarynth]

A little help with a sleuthing job. This is what I received ..

Together, it clearly shows the stakes Russia holds in Iran. Though the military alliance still is not equal to that with NK or maybe even China, it is vital demonstration of integration. The Ayatollah has stepped into a new era for the nation. Pride is secondary to Security. And if Russia has helped Iran get an Oreshnik-like weapon, it defuses the ‘nuclear weapons’ crapola. And it changes the status of all US bases and floating platforms in the region.

https://www.thedefensenews.com/news-details/Iran-Conducts-Unprecedented-High-Speed-Missile-Test-With-Rare-Russia-Coordination/

So now that site has an extensive article, but I do not know the site.

And I have not seen this anywhere else.

Anybody?

[Mr P]

Nothing about it being special, save that it is said to be of intercontinental range…but fyi https://x.com/aleksbrz11/status/2012615488338051233  Aleksey Berezutski 🇷🇺🎖 on X: “🚨BREAKING NEWS Iran is allegedly conducting its first intercontinental ballistic missile test with Russia’s approval, and the missile was launched towards Siberia.🇮🇷🚀

[AHH]

one of the persian TG channels spoke of it a few days ago and said it looked sus and was not commented on elsewhere. Much of the Indian english media is Anglo disinfo. It could be true, but iirc Iran has already demonstrated it has ICBM range several years ago (masked as satellite-boosting rockets).

What it needs as deterrence is not against Zion or nearby compradore Arabs, already amply demonstrated, but against the heart of the crazed Garden. How does going through Russia on a shorter trajectory IRBM (which this sounds like) help that? Iran already has unstoppable IRBM. It doesn’t make sense. And even for ICBMs, Iran has direct access to the sea (is not landlocked) and can demonstrate ICBM range from her northern Indian Ocean side deep into the southern Indian Ocean. (the way China recently practiced deep into the Pacific Ocean)

It is also a point of pride for the big powers to reach self-sufficiency on these existential issues. So all in all, it sounds like disinfo, both to denigrate Iran, and to tar with the typical western Russophobia, as to subliminally message: ATTACK NOW, before they’re given wunderwaffe, etc. etc.  We shall be gaslit unto the zionazi rapture ….

ADDENDUM: where Russia could really help is to provide a proving range. She is so vast, some parts of Siberia were used to practice as targets for generations. Iran lacks blue navy, and allies/bases in southern Indian ocean. Russia could provide such a useful controlled experiment environment, with the Russian target zone in eastern Siberia some 10 time zones away being a really useful ICBM demonstration.

The only way Iran is gonna get respect from the crazed Yanquis is ability to put a gun on their temple. ICBMs are part of the package. Remember last fall, one of their satellites released HD images of a SE CONUS refinery (iirc in Georgia). The components are adding up [01][02][03]

[amarynth]

Story is fake.

[AHH]

[emersonreturn]

pravin sawhey may shed some light, if he’s open to comments or questions, such as sean & kevin.

[Mr P]

just a cute clip….

[emersonreturn]

[emersonreturn]

 

USA’s declaration on Danish sovereignty of Greenland, 1916

 

https://nordics.info/

 

(apologies…the link delivers you to the site where you have to type in: USA’s declaration on Danish sovereignty of Greenland, 1916

[Mr P]

https://youtu.be/W8rblc8LNPA esteemed doctor Postol and Diesen discuss a re-examination of Oreshnik. I note that the doctor is in error when he claims that the use of Oreshnik can not “justify”  reprisal with an atomic , or as he says “nuclear weapon”… (I am loathe to refer to atomic explosive machines as “weapons”) He’s mistaken because the character of the target that is destroyed and the policies of the state affected, determine “justification”. Justification is not dependent upon the weapon, but on the military political effect of it. Let us suppose, for example, that a machine equivalent to Oreshnik was used against a Russian strategic submarine base and destroyed several boats, or, similarly, against a Russian ICBM base, or against a nuclear power reactor… Doctrine prevails. It doesnt make any difference if a rogue kills a cop with a sharp pencil, or with a shotgun…he’s a dead man walking. Cop doctrine prevails.

Other than this error, I think Postol is probably about right.

[Mr P]

Imperial contradiction…to-day in zone US is bigbig holiday. Memorializes the murder of Martin Luther King, badly wounded by a (probably) police sniper after a set up at his motel, he lived long enough to be murdered in hospital. Eye witness nurse said smothered by a doctor. Characteristic of Imperial Method, “not to bury but to praise…” saith the fellows with blooded hands. Happy holiday.

[AHH]

Brother Casey needs to take it to the next level. IPet Goat 2 is really about child sacrifice to Moloch. Their trafficking, abuse, mindwashing, harvesting for adrenochrome, etc etc – serves to bring the Wrath of God on the entire civilization that sank into this bestiality, whose core elite ritual revolves around desecration and despoilage of the most innocent and vulnerable among us (a golem for assaulting the holy spirit). And this is how the Moshiach ensures the end of the Western era, and to raise his own in the Holy Land….

[AHH]

he talks about the Bahai faith in the year of the Fire Horse (and soon after the Lotus, which is symbol of this year’s India BRICS). 2026 appears to be most interesting year indeed.

Bahais are linked to M-I6 and Zionazis. I read, “zio created them in 1800s in Arab and much in Bombay India and Palestine”. Their central temple is in Haifa, occupied Palestine. This group, bridging much of christianity, islam and judaism, had been chosen to replace all of them in the Moshiach’s One World Religion.. Two days ago, IRGC said this about the Bahais:

💠 @Fotros Resistance:
⭕ 🇮🇷| Iran’s Intelligence has announced that a team of Israeli-backed Baha’is, active in the riots, was dismantled

• A 32-member espionage network linked to the Baha’i community that was active in the unrest and carried out acts of vandalism was identified & dismantled.
• 12 of its main members were arrested, and 13 others were summoned.
• They were active in the provinces of Khorasan Razavi, Tehran, Kerman, Yazd, Sistan and Baluchestan, Alborz, Kermanshah, and Mazandaran.
• Their central core was based in a safe house in Mashhad and, in an organized manner.
• They were especially focused on destroying religious sites.
• One of the arrested individuals had made multiple trips to Israel.
• Investigations into more affiliated members is still ongoing.
• 45 Baha’i spies have so far been arrested for activities against national security.

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At the end, he discusses the coming bombing of Aia Sofia, the most prominent cathedral of Christendom of Constantinople (for 1,000 years before the Turks conquered the Byzantines). This actually matches Islamic Eschatology as repeated by Imran Hosein. He said the first major event after Armageddon will be the conquest of Constantinople. THEN the AntiChrist will appear in human form. Precisely as shown in I Pet Goat 2 as well: as the Aia Sophia crumbles, out of it emerges the AntiChrist, no longer able to hide, forced to drop the fake Jesus semblance (the thorns on forehead disappear). The disappearance of this ability to hide likely involves the dissolving of the magical properties of the Staff of Moses/Solomon, due to the effect of 5G. Without these powers, their magical realm, the immense seduction of mankind dissipates in great part due to the former harnessed brute control of djinn-demon legions, leaving them naked and near helpless, at least on equal terms with their sea of enemies.  And this is in essence why Pax Americana is crumbling right now, with ever accelerating and irreversible speed. They’ve lost ALL soft power, and ability to beguile – the real power of the Empire of Lies and Illusions. In the bitter End Times, the curtain of Oz is rent asunder, leaving them exposed, even to the mindwashed

[Mr P]

Uncle Ray chats with Napolitano…NATO kaputski…Greenland anschluss guarantees the result, sly Ruski soothes egomaniac…backazzward path to satisfy ultimatum december 2021? Goin’ that way…

[emersonreturn]

pepe with danny

 

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pepe with nima…first larry, then pepe:

 

[Mr P]

I thought this “The True Back Story Of The Missing 13th Amendment – The Millennium Report” well, interesting. Not the least because it would seem to disqualify most of the Congress and the Senate and many other individuals from holding either citizenship or office. Since the gang is long divorced from law it’s a moot argument, but interesting in itself. https://themillenniumreport.com/2016/04/the-true-back-story-of-the-missing-13th-amendment/  I think there’s probably something there.

[emersonreturn]

carl zha & justin podhur discuss canada, china & what the mandarin caligula may do about it.

 

[emersonreturn]

 

i believe the archivist is chinese AI; its mandate—sharing in good faith the wisdom & long term prosperity  of acting for the benefit of all.

[emersonreturn]

alastair may not provide anything new, other than the impact of iran’s defense upon empire.  this alone resonates.

 

[Mr P]

Now THAT’S a real goose gun! Ahemtink the department of gunsmiths has put some very nifty shot-guns into production! Ahem wunderin’ if she’s a 12 bore or a 10 bore… Reachin’ out, way out! Skeet-shootin’ fer keepers… yew kin miss only once…

https://tass.com/politics/2074093

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Larry “Gunner” Johnson 86’d offayewtube…musta rubbed the nazi perverts the wrong way.

Larry Johnson TERMINATED by YouTube, Failed Regime Change and the Iran Crisis.

(Neutrality Studies…about an hour chat )…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsCQ-39bFfE

[Mr P]

Whack Report zone 404 for Januar 20 …https://youtu.be/l9T-38-n36I

 

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Bedtime reading…may be on the quiz! Propaganda | The Anarchist Library

Title: Propaganda   (1962)
Subtitle: The Formation of Men’s Attitudes
Author: Jacques Ellul
Topics: philosophy, Sociology
Source: Translated from the French by Konrad Kellen and Jean Lerner. With an introduction by Konrad Kellen.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/jacques-ellul-propaganda#toc2

[Mr P]

Nima and Helmer discuss Lavrov’s remarks in re Greenland, and other matters…

Dialogue Works…………..https://youtu.be/6uV3p9nD8D8

Illuminates, maybe, those remarks…

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[Mr P]

Pepe Escobar : The Emperor of Chaos Strikes Again! Pepe say west may be in position to whack Iran by Friday….how big, what response…this awaits us.

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