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July 14, 2023 at 20:29 #16258
AHH
Keymaster
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July 14, 2023 at 23:13 #16260
HT
ParticipantThis meme is fun and twisted.
Twisted, because we have reached a point where we’re “with Adolf” on this one.
Thanks Liverwurst. Just thanks.
I’m genuinely intrigued about the story behind the picture in panel four (bottom right). Is the smile photoshopped as well, or was he having a particular good day? “So zhere is no resistance to our occupation of Sudetenland? Gut, gut”.
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July 15, 2023 at 08:27 #16270
AHH
KeymasterLol!
I don’t think it’s photoshop. They just found a photo and cropped it. He was one of most photographed humans in history. His fascist cadre was built on image and myth and it was a 24/7/365 non stop propaganda show.. so they had much to choose from. And AI can take it to next level today, no?
It was an incisive and hilarious meme when the first Leopard tanks started burning in Novorussiya. How demented are current German elites??!! And it mocks Hitler too — it takes one idiot to recognize another! Or rather total idiocy and abject suicide on behalf of foreign overlords stinks to high heaven and is clear to all, even the dead…
When this issue was first broached, of German tanks going to war on Russian soil.. it blew my mind. I had a long rant on this blog.. Maria Z had an emotional rant too. In many respects the Anglo-Americans achieved their design then and ensured multi-generational rupture between Germans and Russians — that’s how incendiary it is.
And thus also, deprived of critical cheap Russian fuel, metals, other commodities, market and goodwill — it guaranteed German deindustrialization, deconstruction and final realization of the Morganthau Plan, and for all Europe tied to Germany too. So sad. They bet all and lost all.
PS — Re from last Salon thread: “In other words, the Ukies seem to have finally grasped that the rules in the rules-bs order are intangible.”
The Ukies, like all hired gauleiters and thugs, are not very bright. And there is no honor amongst thieves.. I think the end was always scripted to be tragic and brutal for them… tying up loose ends and all.
Now, if the Russians are lucky, they can use this brief opened window to turn him and open the can of worms really wide. Zelensky, as excellently documented by Ritter (“Agent Z”) is just a hapless actor. A sock puppet. You can even see the fingers and arm of his Master wiggling inside his abdomen when he talks!
Imagine how much dirty laundry he can display to mankind, thus eviscerating all the PR since February 2022…. and setting in motion all ensuing culpability and reckoning with the criminals in every international fora. THAT would be the best retribution of all — that the Hegemon’s fall is used Judo-like to facilitate the rise of the new multipolar order.
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July 15, 2023 at 09:39 #16272
Mr P
ParticipantAh! Well, yes….and retribution? Neh… The defeat of an opponent is almost always by indirect means. There is no emotional quality in the machine of conflict, rather it, feelings, tears, these come as a cloak. In the sad example, yes of course our dear little pathetic Mister Z can sing songs. However, as I have previously said, he’d better decide soon and head off to Mother, elsewise maybe the “retirement plan”…like John “Handsome Johnny” Roselli… War, least of all, believes in tears.
I wonder about heavenly retribution, mechanisms of this, and justice, we discussed Sodom event and guilt and daddy Abe. 10%…and all of that.
I shall shrug and say FA>FO is the way the universe is…magicman says so, so it is. I suppose I am resigned to live within a tautological construct, but the blood is real.
Public Trials would be nice. Meantime> https://youtu.be/o9Moe5mIRyM Now then recall the records Comrade Kaye has brought to light, aheem.
The flaws last time demand a better court, one with Gravitas that’s not fake.
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Recalling that Imperial Germany did lots of skulldugerousstuff in USA circa 1915, including Germwar and arsons, but that the indirect effect was the US going against its German (well mostly sorts) brothers. Sabotage pizzes people off, like bombs do. The murders in Russia are similarly flatoutstupid. Thank Heaven Margarita is ok. She’s a favorite.
Best! P
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July 15, 2023 at 11:40 #16286
emersonreturn
Participantdear, ahh, amarynth, mr t, & sudhi, this week has seemed darker, narrower than any i’ve lived through. still it’s familiar, i suppose we arrive here knowing one or 2 things regarding beginning & end & instinctively sense our bookmarked parenthesis from womb to grave.
besides culling notifications of weapons & military build ups, i’ve spent the last week essentially doggedly trying to glean as much as i could from press releases, interviews, blogs, news sites, essays, conversations, phone calls, emails with friends living in india/turkey, scattered comments on numerous threads, to get a fix on what modi & erodgan are up to…not that they work/react in sync, simply that i am perplexed nothing makes sense, neither are behaving logically although undoubtedly within character which denotes the hallmark of tragedy. O happy day. yet nothing falls naturally into place, given the circumstance, the characters, theme–if i could but decipher the cuneiform i would surely see it is inevitable, regrettably i cannot seem to see the end; hamlet need not die, othello needn’t succumb to his lesser self.
sadly, reluctantly i’ve come to the shadowy foreboding that both modi & erdogan believe they can play both sides; walk the tightrope in hopes it is not a plank & in the end, given the end isn’t total, might resume total fidelity to the winner.
given my inclination to lean toward the positive, for some part of the search i was hoping to cess out a hidden agreed upon plan or @ least the indication that the global majority or RoH had ‘colluded’ in hopes of forestalling empire’s panic & premonition that not only was it losing, but it was losing everything: reserve currency, war, pre-eminence/total global dominance. given america has been tossed well under the bus, does india (inhaling the latest stats) actually believe it is vying with america for dominance behind china? has empire seduced modi into believing that india will be empire’s next great homestead? that india won’t be a lesser coloured concubine but that empire has indeed left its bankrupt & doddering wife & wishes to marry (yet again), & after the deserted wife/america, the new favoured partner with empire’s backing will be perfectly positioned to topple mother & china? & rule…never never to be slaves. (rinse repeat)
maria z’s comments regarding turkey & russia’s awareness of turkey’s allegiances, re: eu & nato. o/c it was obvious, & yet, after the assassination attempt on erdogan & the india’s windfall earnings & collaboration on military projects with russia, i had hoped to hope…..
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July 15, 2023 at 14:13 #16291
AHH
KeymasterWell said emerson. Yes, these are extremely dark days. We are all transfixed, absolutely horrified.. it does appear Samson Options have been activated, in spite of seeming meekness in Villainius, no? Everything’s dissembling and time-wasting, until they can finagle what they think should be the knock-out blow.. and Rooskies are onto them, hence Medvedev’s morbid resignation lately..

We never trusted Erdogan, and for good reasons. He is died-in-the-wool Muslim Brotherhood (MB), a loyal uneducated street thug since his youth. Meyssan showed his youth as a bodyguard of another Turkish Sultan, riding on the foot-rails of a limousine of a prior Turk Sultan. (photo above) Imagine Zelensky survives and ages 30 years into his acting role – this is the essence of Erdogan…

Even amongst his closest handlers is MI-6, as with all MB, a Sir Richard Moore, the same British MI-6 leader who handles Zelensky today (!!). The Brits are laser focused on anything impinging on Crimea and the Black Sea!! Moore was the same British ambassador to Turkey before that – and during the 2016 coup attempt against Erdogan! That Erdogan still clings to them in spite of such betrayal is illuminating of his character, abject dependency, lack of insight and unoriginality.
So with the Azov betrayal and miserable outreach to NATO, Erdogan now returns home to his roots. And these Anatolian roots have ever been control-ground zero for the British for the Black & Red Seas, Islamic world, and the Russian underbelly.
He did somewhat serve his purpose, of delaying the general world war and of thus fatally weakening NATO, but this was a bonus and unintended largesse from our Sultan. He still keeps the Black Sea uncomplicated by enforcing the Treaty of Montreux. But the truth outs during the crunch. And Sheikh Imran Hosein was spot on: Erdogan will stay loyal to NATO until Armageddon… indeed, according to his eschatological timeline, the battle to liberate Constantinople occurs AFTER Armageddon.. In my view, since Ottoman days, the Turks have been and will remain fellow travellers of the Anglo-Saxons – against Russia, Arabs, and the larger World-Island. Erdogan is merely the last Sultan of an ancient and rooted pedigree.
I am more sanguine about India. Their polity is quite corrupt, as all western-style democracies.. And the provincial Modi clique may be an outlier.. the reality is the huge bureaucracy has its will and heft too. He may not be able to do much damage, even if he wants to, of which I am not sure at all. Modi is a simple man, very much like Erdogan. From similar impoverished background, living day to day, at mercy of the slick media team around him.. like the proverbial Latin generals in their labyrinth, he is a prisoner of his environment and system… but the massive anti-imperialist and socialist Indian intelligentsia and nomenklatura should dampen many of his lusts and ill-considered moves towards the Hegemon.
What gives me great hope overall is that it takes few to decisively act in History. I’ve already mentally blocked out all except Russia, China and the USA. And China remains within its reticent shell, its ancient remote posture. The USA is floundering on every front. And Russia’s made its decision. And this decision suffices to engineer the needed change for all. And Russia is not only the key military and key commodities superpower, it sits astride the World-Island and so will geographically determine the next century.. Remember the mocking title of my sub-section on Mackinder? “The auto-da-fé of Mackinder, Spykman & Gang…” 🤣😂
So even if the 90% align with the Hegemon, it will not help the Hegemon… Fortunately such an extreme scenario does not exist. So it may help calm us to see India, Turkey, Arabs, Africa, LAC, etc.. as a luxury. Not essential to the proceedings at all. They will help legitimize the Victory, as followers always do, but they are superfluous, whether due to circumstances, heft, or temperament.
So India and Turkey only set themselves back by dithering. And their large populations largely align with multipolarity, against the corrosive elements of their elites, as shown in poll after poll. This informs the schizophrenia and wild to-and-fro swings of their agonizing useless elites too. They are afraid of nooses and pitchforks, as they should be! So these recalcitrant Indian and Turkish elites, by hook or crook, will be brought back to the normal and iron flow of the Current, if only out of self-preservation.
Don’t be sad! Live your life. Enjoy time with family and get sun. Each day is precious. We remain hopeful in spite of all. These galactical geopolitical rearrangements are not only way above our pay-grade, dwelling overlong on their morbidness harms our health too. Despite fate, the future’s not set yet. We agree with Medvedev, there’s still hope.. And Prayer can move and affect Time itself…..
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July 15, 2023 at 21:31 #16298
emersonreturn
Participantahh, thank you, for your calm overview & wisdom. yes, i’ve bookmarked the voltaire.net. it warrants continued reference & would’ve served me well to have drunk more deeply when i first made my way through in search of answers to the suffering inflicted upon syria & afghanistan. i am indebted & grateful, you have delivered my thirsty quest to a cool rich date grove. it illuminates why putin often seems to don a beekeeper’s attire when dealing with erdogan. 🙂 you undoubtedly recall putin making erdogan wait for an audience & when they met in what seemed a smallish hall not grand, lacking russian opulence but indelibly important, dedicated to a victory, & the two sat across from each other, alongside a mantel honouring a sculpture of a scrum long past wherein mother had disciplined the recalcitrant turk & here once more the delinquent sat awkwardly all knees on a delicate seat, hunkered, deeply shamed, explicated & warned. they understand each other well.
while the charm city exercises over turks, baku, qatar baffles it is undeniable & i sincerely appreciate your guidance to let the flotsam flow & to focus instead on the stars, china, iran, russia, they are masterfully conducting this our night sky. you are wise, indeed prayer is best for all that is holy. blessings.
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July 15, 2023 at 22:45 #16299
AHH
KeymasterRe: “you undoubtedly recall putin making erdogan wait for an audience & when they met in what seemed a smallish hall not grand, lacking russian opulence but indelibly important, dedicated to a victory”
Yes! I remember that very well. Russians can be blunt when they wish to. And they kept Erdogan’s posse standing to the side during the meeting, like a bunch of useless flunkies, lol. Here are photos of it.


It was a most dangerous moment for the Turks; they got the message, and were chastened for a while… but can a scorpion deny its nature?? We are back to square one again..
And the UkroNazi allies of the MB “avenged” the insult by dismantling Catherine the Great’s statue in Odessa, lol.
Indeed, I had a foreboding once that dancing fool of a Foreign Minister Cavusoglu was replaced with Hakan Fidan. (note his words in this article, spoken June 21, right after his appointment as FM, and from LONDON: always the servants of Empire speak of Crimea. This contest around the Black Sea region, and contiguous with Syria, is the sine qua non of the End Times…)
Fidan is one of the real power sources, or enforcers, in the Turk deep state. And like Bandar “Bush” (longest serving Saudi ambassador to USA and godfather of Al Qaeda) he ran the ISIS ratline into Syria, and much of NATO’s global world jihadist movements.
Fidan has:
- coordinated the transfer of ISIS by sea from Libya to Syria through the Barsai crossing on the Turkish-Syrian border.
- is in charge of the relations between the Turkish state, al-Qaïda and Daesh.
- was the liaison officer for the terrorists within the NATO military staff since 1990s wars on Yugoslavia. (also excellent recap of why Myanmar is eternal target of Anglos – to sever the maritime Silk Road, and the essential shortcut around Straits of Malacca to the Indian Ocean)
- According to a Russian intelligence report, in 2014 he joined Libyan jihadists to Daesh inside Turkey for a more effective front against the Syrian state.
The Turks moved front and center a godfather of Global Terror Inc. It is like making John Bolton the VP, like Cheney back in the days of Bush the Younger the Mad. So do you see why it is shortly gonna get real ugly with the Turks? And Al Assad refuses to still deal with Erdogan? That is why Russia is currently keeping its powder dry….
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July 15, 2023 at 23:16 #16301
AHH
Keymaster
I forgot to include a photo with a better angle of the flunkies standing under the statue of Catherine the Great and detail of the way Putin handled them, to an electric global reception:
“The video footage of Erdogan’s reception at the Kremlin was full of unmistakable scenes of humiliation of Turkey’s president cum sultan by the czar of Russia. The body language of both leaders was revealing. As Erdogan sat next to Putin, the latter stood up and made a coarse gesture to call members of the Turkish delegation for a handshake. He acted as if he were doing them a favor or gracing them with his attention. The Turkish officials, including the foreign and defense ministers and the country’s spymaster, rushed clumsily toward Putin. They looked more like school kids called by the headmaster. Erdogan, seeing what was happening, stood and walked toward the opposite direction to shake hands with Sergey Lavrov and Sergei Shoigu, Russia’s foreign and defense ministers.
The most striking humiliation of the Turkish guests appeared in the choreography of the meeting. Footage showed the crowded Turkish delegation standing under an imposing statue of Catherine the Great, the Russian empress who annexed Crimea from Ottoman Turkey in 1783 and defeated the Ottomans several times in the Russo-Turkish wars in 1768-74 and 1787-1792. To add insult to injury, Erdogan was seated next to Putin under a bronze sculpture of Russian soldiers of the fateful Russian-Turkish War that ended in Ottoman Turkey’s defeat in 1878.”
And apparently the Arabs responded right then by (1) seeing no need for Viagra for the next full year, and (2) immediately jumping ship from the sinking Hegemon seeing how the new Tzar man-handled his regional Turk gauleiter!
“…The image is depicted by the Russian official media concerning the meeting of President Vladimir Putin with his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan in the Kremlin last Thursday where the Turkish delegation stood under the statue of Catherine the Great, the Empress who defeated the Ottomans in Crimea and assisted the independence movements in the Arab World, especially in Egypt and Sayda (Sidon) Governorate in Lebanon. This enabled her establish herself as the Ottoman influence began to wane in many regions that used to be under its control.
…When Russian media focused on the photo of the Turkish delegation standing under the statue of Catherine the Great (1762-1796) without showing the location of the Russian delegation, it spoke volume about “veiled defeat” of Turkey in the Northern Syria battle. It’s a reminder that this same woman put the Ottoman Empire into oblivion.”
The detail with bringing them under the eyes of Catherine Romanov has multiple purposes. It also warns Russians are aware of Turk revanchism, along with their NATO hyena-pack, and will fight to defend and retain Crimea, as did the Empress Catherine.
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July 16, 2023 at 04:26 #16305
AHH
Keymaster

- in 3rd left of back row is the Black Prince and current FM Hakan Fidan,
- in front row, from right-most to 3rd right are: former FM Dancing Queen Cavusoglu, the Sultan’s son-in-law Selçuk Bayraktar (yes, of same drone company), and former Def Min Hulusi Akar, among other key Turk leaders
Any Questions about love-lost between Russians and Turks?? They understand each other impeccably after nearly a millennium, as do the French and British….
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July 16, 2023 at 02:33 #16303
Mr P
ParticipantPolitical Telegraphics>
As with the picture of misc en scene > the Sultan, the Czar, and Catherine, so also the choice to present a story, this itself tells a hint, at least, about the designs of the publisher. In this line of thought the RT transmissions of special dope testing in zone 404 and elsewhere..https://www.rt.com/shows/documentary/579709-ukraine-drug-tests-soldiers/ This choice seems to imply an “official not official) statement> “Bear Knows, and he’s going to make something of it” would be my guess.
Now then. Is there also the faint implication that similar funny business is not going on all over zonewest? I didn’t detect it. Rather they present specific evidence that it did, no reason why it might have stopped, and leave the viewer to the QED jump off of “Duh!” Homer would do a face-palm “Duh!” Of course Smallville is screwy, they’re subjects in an experiment…thoughts along such lines might come to Homer.
Ooppps! Cop radio tells of another overdose… several times a day @ zone Anoxia…mind you the radio covers lots more than a mere village.
Madness! It’s the way of west… And btw the docu is both horrible and important as it hauls in the revolutionracket. IMHO the thesis about dopedup crowds is solid. Moreover, in zone usa broadcast “legacy” media flog all sorts of silly dopeystuff, as do the medicos, even hospital staff…interestingly chatted with a licensed pharmacist and mentioned IUPAC, assuming she’d be familiar with the title… “huh?” Upon a brief dialogue it came to light that she had never, ever, not once, taken a chemistry class. Thus the blind dispense, what? How could they know, or even be held to account? Nice gal, too. I gave her the IUPAC handbook with a ribbon tied to it…1958 edition…I had a spare. I wonder if it did any good.
Best! P
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July 16, 2023 at 08:44 #16314
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ParticipantAHH, you’re a living and breathing encyclopedia. And a very organized one!
That does shed light on Erdogan’s flip flops.
These MI6 people, Moore and Gallagher, give me the creeps. To be able to exert such enormous influence from behind the shadows. What do these men know that we know not?
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July 16, 2023 at 09:34 #16315
emersonreturn
Participantdear ahh, thank you for the photographs…they handily convey a thousand words or several films. thank you as well for the related links, i have some intriguing hours ahead & look forward to reading them very much.
i have never understood why (excluding money for a destitute family or fear for their lives) so many muslims worked so diligently for city? there was a photo of an isis assassin with a star of david tattooed below his throat. the photo gave me reason to assume the most heinous crimes where committed by mossad costumed as head choppers, but now these many years later i feel the answer is probably more convoluted. certainly old ground for most. but your links will i am certain begin to colour & deliver clarity to some of my haze.
voltaire.net possibly a decade past now did a series on the turk & the jew…@ the time i was part of a small group of music lovers bringing in chamber quartets to the pnw & was acquainted with a couple, wife, istanbul turkish, husband, tel aviv montreal nyny, jewish, both worked for the un dealing with terrorists. she mostly translated, having been educated in france & germany, he advised, & was decidedly dodgy whenever asked about the why & how details of his job. she never left home w/o a backpack containing gas mask, first aid etc. incongruous alongside pearls. the series on voltaire had my undivided attention.
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July 16, 2023 at 12:58 #16318
AHH
KeymasterHT, thx but alotta sharper pencils on this site! And I’ve enjoyed and followed geopolitics since internet came out, esp Meyssan & Pepe Escobar carefully for 20+ years. I’ve benefited from countless others too, given the blessings of the internet – a true motherlode of data and hive mind of all humanity. Each side flocks with its kind – we anti-imperialists and socialists and traditionalists have pooled resources and built each other up!
emerson, it is not only muslims but most of mankind mesmerized by the Hegemon — and against their own interests. This is why I call it above all an Empire of the Mind. It is the essence of Parasitism, no? To invade the Host and turn its energy, mind and very life-essence in absolutely fruitless and suicidal directions. But it is a worn and stale game after several millennia. They are reaping the whirlwind now. Scriptures let us know there is a fixed term of their torment against mankind.. like the prophecy below

many interpret these squabbling yet interlocking western imperialists as the last iteration of the Beast, being the feet of clay and iron of a paradigm which began with Babylon…
IMHO the City of London focused on several “lieutenants” or gauleiters in each region on earth, to further its agenda. Turkey since Ottoman times as I explained above. Germany for central Europe. Japan in East Asia. Note all were turned to fight Russia from the West, South, and East, their chief foe and permanent target (Medvedev: the Anglo-Saxons are “our eternal enemies”, as only those tormented for a millennia can honestly say of the tormentor) As you know, no significant power lives North of Russia.
More recently since WW2 it has been the Muslim Brotherhood and their crazed Salafi offspring unleashed towards the Muslim world, to seed unending chaos and prevent development. But Afro-Asia is now fighting back in a coordinated fashion for the first time in centuries… woe to the losers.
And as the mindwashing and coups are blocked, currencies-controls overcome, and their lost military supremacy turns really bitter, they will be all rolled back to wither on their resource-poor vine. So a bleak future indeed looms for Germany and its Eurocrazies, Turkey and its extremists, and Japan and its fascist discharges. They are all going down with their imperial master in London.
PS — I had cousins who lived in Turkey in 1980s and taught me some. They bitterly complained of work of freemasonry amongst Turks. For example, rumors persist Ataturk, the soldier who overturned the Ottomans and founded their republic, was a “muslim” conversos – from a Jewish tribe of Misurata, Libya. Much of the jews evicted by the Spaniards during the Reconquista settled in Libya and northern Africa.
It is noteworthy much of the traitors who served NATO and helped overturned Gaddafi were from Misurata. And Erdogan and Turkey’s key stronghold is similarly in Misurata… Coincidence? Or the resumption of ancient tribal ties??
It is no coincidence both Turkish and Russian societies are superstitious and hate/fear secret societies. Both their empires were in great part destroyed in the decadent decades leading to WW1 by elite factions subservient to secret societies, chiefly run out of London, Paris, Germany and Vatican. This is the secret glue to this day binding liberals, nazis, salafis, MB, zionists, fascists, rapturist evangelicals, etc.. Most of its members appear ignorant footsoldiers believing they work towards higher ideals and a return to cleaner days, whereas they herald evil destruction worldwide. Only a few elites at the top are consciously satanic. It is a terrible paradigm.
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July 16, 2023 at 14:47 #16319
emersonreturn
Participantdear ahh, you are a reservoir, your precious archive & years of astute observation illuminate dots, herald & highlight the bridges & sea routes. i am indebted, your guidance is golden. thank you for daniel, i had completely forgotten that prophecy. & have more than once seriously grieved for the loss of babylon’s treasure, decorating some miser’s library deep in city’s bowels. ahead, i have an afternoon of reading, followed by meditation to blend my rudimentary brushstrokes to an integrated patina.
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July 16, 2023 at 23:47 #16320
AHH
KeymasterCarthage: in its day the commercial epicenter of the West Mediterranean



Last Image: top half @ third century BC; bottom half in present day
Pepe’s sojourn in Sicily reminded me of Carthage. I’ve never been on Sicily island itself, but saw it with unassisted eyesight at sea level from quaint Tunis hosting the remains of Carthage — they’re that close across a narrow point of the Med. That’s why both locations have historically been strategic to control — the US Navy has its 6th fleet HQ nearby and Sigonella base is on Sicily and countless other bases too, including drone and signals planes involved in daily Black Sea skullduggery.
ZZzzzzzzzz……………
Flotsam from the Maelstrom – “Nemesis visiting earlier Hegemons”
(1) [repost]Agriculture: the Secret Weapon of the Carthaginian Empire. It had been so for Pax America too, explicitly so since WW2. A US senator around 1946 boasted they would control mankind thereby.. and all other agencies helped Big Ag achieve the aims: WB/IMF/tariffs & economic hitmen forced most Global South into cash crops or single commodities basis and then external food dependency..
(2) The Harbour at Carthage: A True Ancient Marvel. They took Sea commerce and ports to impressive levels. (see photos above too)
(3) The epochal ruins today within Tunis. Little is preserved due to original Roman leveling, followed by numerous rebuilding over the last 2.2 millennia by several successor civilizations (including germanic Vandals, lol!)
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July 17, 2023 at 03:43 #16335
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July 17, 2023 at 08:52 #16348
AHH
KeymasterThese sort of atrocities are usually timed to the satanic or occult. I noted media which had the bridge struck at 4:21 am. I wondered whether it was really 4:20 — that was Hitler’s birthdate.. a major day of pilgrimage in the past to his hometown. It got so the Austrian authorities forbade visitation on that day due to being overwhelmed and sheer embarrassment.

However 4:21 is another notable day… the birthday of Queen Elizabeth II. This was also celebrated in the occult. A channel now defunct noted the hit music song by Prince called “I Would Die 4 U,” alluded to his religious devotion to her. Note the lyrics! Even within the title is encoded her birthday; the last two words numerically say, 4:21, since “U” is the 21st letter of the alphabet… crazy is crazy. They are so.
The name of this album was “Purple Rain.” Purple is color of royalty. Rain could be spelled “reign.” The demented do fashion themselves masters of all humanity, of an Empire over which the sun does not set.
And in fact a ritual took place where the persona of Prince did “die for her” on April 21, his recorded day of death. A bizarre ritual of the possessed. And keep in mind, the devoted and demented MI6, SAS and other Brit agencies largely run the Ukrainian terror regime.
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July 17, 2023 at 10:18 #16357
AHH
KeymasterSleepy Joe blurted out, “God Bless the Queen” while in Connecticut. Talk about a Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court! And being submitted, forced to acknowledge fealty to the larger Pirate-base. She was also the longest reigning royalty of all, among the British.
There’s so so much more to Prince, Purple Rain and this ritual. I’ve forgotten most of it. Prince, acknowledged a music genius, appears a central minor figure in the End Times. A herald or songster if you will of his Master.
The refrain “Rainman” or “rain” in many songs refers to the Devil or Antichrist, as this principality is the muse or pied piper of many. In fact the lyrics above explicitly say he is the Queen’s Messiah (the entity speaking through him to his other royal vessel). He also sings of being of neither gender in the first lines. The Baphomet is a hermaphrodite.. and a current wave of disturbing gender dysphoria is submerging the fallen West.. Prince proclaimed himself to be so too in his life — and looked disturbingly androgynous and changed his name to a bizarre symbol incorporating both male and female signs:

Additionally it appears to have elements of the ancient egyptian ankh (god Osiris), the circle and crescent of moloch, the coiled tail and open jaws of a serpent, etc.. demonic!
Purple is the melding of blue and red. Like gender being dissolved, politics and “false dualities” (according to their paradigm) will be broken by their false Messiah. Ordo ab Chao heralds the overturning of all prior traditions and understandings of religion, politics, gender, good and evil itself. They will thereafter build-back-better (a “b” looks like a “6” so bbb = 666) according to a new template. Note the Build Back Better theme were signature campaigns of both Biden and the Brit Boris Johnson.
The era of the AntiChrist is marked by breathtaking assault on all that was sacred in the past. “He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.” His new standards and singularly unique viewpoint will be dictated to all other religions, civilizations, and mankind.
So this ritual celebrates the coming new future and eradication of the old past. Why all history needs to be erased, and has largely been done so in the West. Any sovereign rival or even potential source of resistance will also be fought and erased. Why Russia, the kinetic bulwark of the Global South, needs to be destroyed at all costs. As above with Carthago, “Russio delenda est!”
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July 17, 2023 at 14:05 #16369
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ParticipantI’m not overtly into astrology, but there is some serious truth in zodiacs if you apply it with common sense and empirical observations. The Babylonians were onto something.
Both Mao and Stalin were Capricorns, hardworking and ruthless types, often considered evil by those that misunderstand this zodiac.
Mr Putin certainly fits the bill of an ‘actualized’ Libra, fair and just to the core.
Prigozhin and Trump are stereotypical ‘unactualized’ Geminis. Two-faced turncoats who are always driven by their own selfish ambitions.
An ‘actualized’ Gemini would look more like Mr Xi, using their innate talents for many things to serve not just themselves but also the people.
Speaking of Chinese leaders, two of the greatest emperors, Qin Shihuang and Tang Taizong, were both Aquarians. In its actualized state, this zodiac produces sagely types intent on easing humanity’s suffering.
Why is this relevant, you may ask?
The Aries-Taurus cusp, those born between April 17 and April 23, are said to be gifted with extremely powerful personalities, as it allegedly combines the strength of both zodiacs into one.
There is little doubt in my mind that those familiar with the occult are aware of this potent astrological alignment and the significance of these, and other, dates.
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July 17, 2023 at 19:40 #16378
AHH
KeymasterAstrology was a revered science for so many civilizations! Then I believe astronomy split off and it was in full disrepute.. except for Mrs. Nancy who I heard used to consult it in the White House before every major decision of her husband, the Gipper Raygun of the Good Empire..
I know little of it. What’s with the Aries-Taurus cusp? I and several relatives are born in that window! Fortunately not on Adolf or Her Majesty’s day. And I swear of no habitual megalomania, psychopathy, cannibalism, being a possessed reptilian or any other aberration!
I suppose it’s a superstition? Aries symbolizes their goat god (“Greatest Of All Time” [GOAT] lore in sports, even war with conquerors like Alexander of Macedon) and the Taurus bull is another horned god of theirs like Moloch. The Vatican celebrated Moloch in recent years.. in the occult anything with horns and long ears, including rabbits, is used as symbolism for devils. what a cesspit is our modern reverted West.
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July 18, 2023 at 18:44 #16416
HT
ParticipantI’m a bit of an amateur hobbyist in astrology, but I lack the time to do more research. So please take what I write with some salt 🙂
What I can gather is that it’s all about the constellations and planets, and the attributes it emanates or bestows on us when the Sun is in a specific constellation at the time of our birth.
The ancients somehow discovered this and then chose animals and mystical beings that best fitted the attributes of each zodiac. Capricorns were originally Crocodiles.
The Aries-Taurus Cusp is also known as the Cusp of Power, definitions often include: natural-born leaders, dedicated to passions/goals and able to achieve them, intelligent, impatient and stubborn. But it doesn’t necessarily make you a megalomaniac lol.
One has to look at where the Moon is positioned in the sky during the time of birth as well. Then all the other planets too, albeit their influence is less dominant. Being male or female affects how the zodiac influence our personality too.
Personally, I’d say genes matter too – I’ve met fraternal twins of the same gender that looked and acted quite differently.
Finally, there’s also our earthly environment to consider. Having (dys)functional parents will affect if we can reach our true potential or not, ie become the actualized version, or the destructive dysfunctional version.
Self-awareness and knowledge of astrology can undoubtable affect a change too, and help a person to become a better version of themselves if they’re willing to work on themselves.
So you and your relatives probably benefitted from loving, nurturing homes and/or made good personal choices.
Well done for not being Adolf 2.0! The world owes you our gratitude.
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July 18, 2023 at 14:25 #16413
Sudhi
ParticipantAldebaran is the alpha or brightest star in the constellation Taurus. The name was originally given to the five stars of Taurus, and the brightest star was called in Arabic Na’ir-al-Doberan, “the bright one of the follower,” because it follows the Pleiades.
This is quite a lengthy article, but it does explain and help us understand the “Black Nobility” :
https://thebridgelifeinthemix.info/history/in-profile-the-aldobrandini-lucifer-and-its-servants/
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July 18, 2023 at 12:14 #16410
AHH
Keymaster
Lighthouse of AlexandriaCrooke’s latest discussed several articles we had also discussed recently — Mac Sweeney’s excellent review of the invention of modern “West” & Mr P’s Nakedcapitalism comparison of nazi hubris in 1940s and nazi hubris today… I suppose we all contemplate the unsavory dregs of the fallen giants! We lilliputians only get to see the fall of a Gulliver once a millennium or so. As myths “pop” madness takes over.
ZZzzzzzzzz……………
Flotsam from the Maelstrom – “Perpetuation of Myths”
(1) “How much was lost when the Library of Alexandria burned?” The seismic fin de siècle such as ours have traditionally been eras of great loss of continuity — in traditions, knowledge, tech, etc. What remains is often curious. What will survive our own era??? Roman aqueducts, roads, colosseum, etc.. still exist 1.6+ millennia later. Will western standards built on contrived planned obsolescence be visible in 100 years?
(2) Paris @ 1921 Centenary of death of Napoleon. Few lessons were learned in those Roaring 20s. Even during this breather between world wars, they were prepping the Germans for next Drang nach Osten. Note the secret society brother @ 0:55 with the sign of the Hidden Hand, like his idol Old Boney in most portraits. (old boney = Napoleon in Brit slur of his era) That Roaring 20s, like Kiev/DC/City in our own Roaring 20s, saw a people wholly sold out to Mephisto.
(3) “Sometimes we wonder what winter has in store for us…” the Battle of Smolensko in just these mid to late July days of 1941, within days of launching Operation Barbarossa, impressed on the German high command that Blitzkrieg had its limits and Russians would go down fighting. A few intelligent men began to understand they were in for Old Boney’s fate… and yet like Ukies, they kept feeding the Grinder for another four years! Listen to the dawning Horror, from their own writings, within days of Operation Barbarossa, as their delusion met cold hard Reality!!
Part of their misunderestimation, to quote Dubya, was due to lack of understanding of the furious Soviet industrialization and its true capacities to wage industrial warfare (ummm. sound familiar today?). Here is the first of several nice charts by Ben Norton that explains:

The German Nazis did not encounter the same cakewalk given by secret friendlies of the western front.. those weren’t threatened with wholesale extermination for lebensraum. And this habitual nazi error of warming up with the junior varsity squad then hitting the wall of the Eastern Front is itself an earlier echo of the cakewalks of taking Iraq & Afghan & others for NATO who then blithely marched into the SMO meatgrinder.
Attrition, attrition, attrition, ever the bane of the crazed aggressor invader. Time, land, space, numbers, will, moral, the grit of fighting for your families’ lives — were always against them. UkroNatzo is merely the latest fertilizer offering to the blessed rich black soil of Novorussiya
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July 18, 2023 at 20:49 #16417
Mr P
ParticipantFunny, about 3 am local I often walk in the garden and stand, watching the celestial dome, and so I was to-day, an’ imaging 5,000 years ago in some Eurasian garden. The distant barking, the distant rooster, the “trinkles” of water… not so different, and totally different. We can see the milky way fairly well, and both before dawn and after nightfall we can see, faintly, satellites during their illumination, presumably observation machinery. They move fast, so low altitude polar orbits. My hunch is that astrology is a complex of scrying – and scrying may couple to spooky action…I once knew a psychologist gal who gave it up for astrology. It worked about as well, maybe better. I know she told my fortune accurately in 1969 – it came true.
Speaking of Stars. Joan Rivers and the perverts…evidently, ostensibly, it warn’t and ain’t jus’ dear old Hunter>
(this is old stuff, new to me.)
From transcript> “…senator Obama exited the limousine with 200 $50 which was provided to him by me
6:34
returned a short while later with an eight ball of cocaine which he gave to me I did ingest a couple of lines of
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cocaine and shortly thereafter senator Obama produced a glass cylinder pipe and packet of crack cocaine from his pocket
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Obama then smoked the crack cocaine I performed…”Well, you get the idea..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QK0eGp3N6A (note, this was some time ago…and one may speak to the rules in rhetoric of credibility – the cat’s credible)
Different guy> flogging his book> https://archive.ph/GrIQK (Unmasking Obama)
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No wonder they’re delusional. When the dealers get hooked on their own stuff, they crash…but it takes a bit of time. What was sortasecret now presents as a farce. Foreshadowing in life and literature. Having buggered everything in sight they go on to bugger the globe. compulsive fornicators? 😉 Drugs and libido… dangerous ice.
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Those numerous Canadian forestarsonevent> smoke> is this a contrived misc en scene leading up to when the nazis “put something in the water”, so to say? I am recalling the drugged up color revolution gags…the BLMwhatever staged riots… and more. Vague hunch. It does look like the USA, well, when ship about to capsize she rides easy, then rolls over. Crack propagation teaches the same lesson. Nazis use “crowd control”… long time to next ppe (phony phuckin election) The RT film on 404 as drug experiment and the use of drugs in crowd manipulation shocked me, ’cause it clicks. Duh!
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“Rifle-Sights Memo”, “RSM” It does seem to have been something along those lines. They say all sorts of Ruskie “technical military agency” afoot. Nice weather for it.
Poor Hal Turner, warts an’ all, claimed all sorts of enhancements to the affray 404. He’d make a good subject to characterize in a play, I think.

Back to anthology Heinrich Boll, stories about, well, the war in USSR, in many of the same places in 404… very cute.
…..g’nite. Friends.
Best! P
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July 19, 2023 at 00:38 #16420
AHH
KeymasterYes dear Steve, I heartily agree on both counts! “amarynthistas” is too unwieldy… There was a commentator here who used to call her, “ama.” How about “amarites?” That is short and catchy, no?? It does sound like Sakerites too, lol. And even sounds like a tribe from biblical times. 🤣😂
Ahh dear HT, I note you are quick to say I don’t necessarily have megalomania, but you stayed mum on possible psychopathy, cannibalism, reptilianism or other aberrations.. a most pregnant accusative (?) non-response… 🤔🤯😭
Seriously, the Sun plays an unappreciated role in human affairs. Perhaps the early astrology was useful and a guide, but it has devolved into rank superstition nowadays, no? This is why the traditional monotheistic religions discourage it now. But the signs it points to have layers of meanings, some which would remain valid if one can sift through the corruption of modern astrology, no?? But there are only 24 hrs in a day, and too many sciences and endeavors and chores in life.
For medicine, I’ve seen the role of the Sun is also hidden in modern societies. It is so important. It is requisite for us to innately create vitamin D, precursor to good health, strong bones, sound mind, etc.. It improves mood and helps prevent depression. It helps regulate sleep cycles and good sleep, itself requisite for good health. And so on..
Yet modern western allopathy discourages it in countless ways, such as fearmongering of skin cancer, premature aging and wrinkling (effective to scare away women), etc. Even many of the anti-UV skin creams block the essential UV-light needed for generating vitamin D (so one sits in the sun without receiving its benefits!) and themselves cause cancer!! Diabolical system. Western medicine has become a cartel which generates a cycle of profit for itself and Big Pharma..
Sudhi, thanks!
Mr P, what sort of “enhancements to the affray 404” did hyperbolic Hal claim?? I’ve been eyeballing him with two very sceptical eyes lately… he’s either gone off the deep end or been fully regimented in the Ministry of Truth! What a waste.
The Canadian fires are a staged event. Towards what I have no idea and did not pursue. I have been focused, like us all, on Z-NPP and the Ukraine and World-Island these months. Remember Brother Casey who researches these occult events? He had a field day with the Canadian fires. I did not watch.. something to do with USA too. It was in some of their films about NYC getting covered in orange smoke. What demented degenerates. even as they circle the drain, and are losing the plot in every front, they still do their planned atrocities and FFs… a malignant sentient A.I. appears in charge of the fallen Westworld.
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July 19, 2023 at 03:49 #16428
Mr P
ParticipantAHH, Hal’s difficult – a bit boring, and hysterical. Syntax in English tends to produce “either or”, whilst often it’s not an “or” but an “add” in reality and logic. Being a bit like Willy Loman in my eye, as agent infiltrators are salesman, selling themselves. Seriously, being an agent might be fun for a young fellas, but for Hal it’s a horror. The affray? He said there was an ongoing series of missiles and a multitude of flying machines a-launching more. Big Ruskie counter-counter-counter-counter attack… BBC about a hours ago claimed a fuel tank got hit at Sevastopol…they tell some appalling lies, which are interesting as they tell agenda, but mostly they deceive via distraction. BBC more boring than Hal. Better to play “chase” with the dog. Hal did say he was surprised that DC was still there. A provocateur? So I assume. Also nuts from stress he cannot deal with. Health, engagement, realizing no longer young… loneliness, estrangement – Marx wrote about estrangement. Hal has my sympathy.
Speaking of whom, not to improperly conflate Hal with a dog…well, inevitably one dog is smarter than the other. Quicker. They both eventually solve their doggy problems. Smart dog learns more words faster. Not quick dog learns and naturally lags. Big surprise! After several years…the dogs displayed a sudden almost step-function rapid increase in cooperative action, helping one another in interactions and goals, acting as a committee. This is probably something most people have known for many thousands of years. So? A “scientific” observation of this in a lab would be very difficult… Science then revealed to have blind spots. Automisdirection. Pirsig skated close to this observation on his bike trip. The dog committee tends to want dialogue dealing with food and furry garden critters, pack comfort snuggles belly rubs, and rather astonishingly, when one dog is being bothered by a cat, the other will “intervene”. All raised together nearly since birth, the racial antipathy ‘tween canine and feline is perhaps latent, but we have never seen any display of this, rather they intervene as they would with a puppy. A natural science, if you like. Getting on a 10 year 24-7 experiment. Most recently, dinner in their dishes, one dog not present, ignoring chow, hungry present dog went to door and gave glance-stare at human. Ok door open. Enter missing dog and they both had their repast as one. Not so egalitarian as to share the actual dishes though. Anyway, altruism? Can we say that dogs exhibit communism with canine characteristics?
Solar influence> deeper than radiation, I suspect we both suspect. See searchterm “galactic current sheet” Earth may be seen as an element in a vast vacuum tube with wild magnetic plasma flows. There must be a multitude of subtle effects on the systems where the pressures rise and chemical reactions go fast. The solar current sheet and solar behavior is said to control the polarity of the compass… beyond my technical background but the general idea seems plausible. BTW we are supposed to get a bit of a hit with CME to-day. I wonder what changes in weather and climate may attend the globe leaving one current and entering another… and doubt that climate change is caused by bovine flatulence. Rather, since the climate is changing, “let’s tell everybody that it’s their fault and cheat the unworthy of their birthrights.” If polarity of magnetic field flips, seasonal patterns of migrations will presumably be badly disrupted.
Best! P
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July 19, 2023 at 09:10 #16439
AHH
KeymasterDon’t cry for me, Pretoria…
and then there were two

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July 19, 2023 at 15:45 #16455
HT
ParticipantThe discovery of astrology is downright odd. How did a bunch of ancients figure out how to scry the night sky, and subsequently create a framework to accurately predict events that are fated to happen? For lack of a better answer I suspect Mesopotamian mushrooms, or other such substances to led to fantastic things like shamans, Norse berserkers and the I Ching.
Dear AHH, I was deliberately keeping mum for a reason. There are unspeakable sinister sides to being a ‘Power Cusper’. Truths far too horrific for our simple human minds to understand. I had hoped you would not notice, but nothing escapes those gifted with Power. I should have known better. My humblest apologies. Please don’t eat me 🙏
What’s fascinating about astrology is its accuracy in describing human personalities and behaviors. It begs the question how much free will we have, and how much control we have over our own tendencies and destinies.
What is that about? Must we learn to master what appears to be our inborn nature, influenced by stars and planets?
Must we learn to just go with the flow, and totally embrace and submit to the Creator’s plans for us?
And/or are we pre-destined to be reborn at a specific date and time so (some) of our karma can be fulfilled?
Until we get the point and finally seek ways to reunite eternally with our Maker?
Is astrology just another hint from the Ordainer that there’s more to this mortal life of chance and endless limitations?
Taking it too far and it becomes a distraction indeed. Much like any fascinating hint left by the Mysterious One, be it math, music or mushrooms. We must not stop at each scenic waterfall but go all the way to the Ocean.
Dear Sudhi, thank you for the link. Too much for one evening, but certainly worth coming back to and digest when destiny allows.
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July 19, 2023 at 20:32 #16459
AHH
Keymaster
OK that will teach me to be cheeky with HT again. For once I’m speechless. I’ve met the match!
Mr P, good observation about the Jul 20 (Op Valkyrie). There are many ways to take down the madmen, short of nuclear war. If implosion is too slow, or they keep sending up canon-fodder to the Grinder, their cities can be asymmetrically “kettled” through hunger-riots. Maybe the plebs can display terrible street ornamentation.
btw, this was a plague of ancient world, and still occurs in the Global South today. Rome got to the point they distributed free rations (a sack of grain monthly) for centuries to avoid hunger-riots, so their Oligarchy could then plunder abroad undisturbed on the homefront. It appears the modern Roosky vandals are more clever their tormented germanic predecessors. No need to crash the Gates of Imperial Rome. Just crash their dinari and grain supplies, and let gravity and the plebs handle the rest. The West will become an interesting lab, concurrent with vaccine effects. I will find and share an illuminati or tarot card I saw around 2020 showing Paris burning during the Olympics, which happens to be in 2024….
Funny how you brought up the Montreax treaty. This was on my mind for months and especially in the last days. It may expire next week, as it is linked to the expiring Treaty of Sèvres and the Treaty of Lausanne, if the British have their way… Montreux appears to me a temporary concession back then to the Soviets at a point of Anglo weakness. They knew Russian lust for the Straits, and accommodated them to maintain Turk neutrality and to avoid Constantinople/Istanbul’s taking during WW2. I suspect the Sultan’s greatest, last and most fatal betrayal is in the offing. Why Russians have been keeping their powder dry to date.
I thought Hal said a few weeks ago he was expanding to new nationwide station?? So it ain’t just the rural Mormon ranches in the West listening. In a way he is doing a superb job. As hunger and impoverization will heat Eurocrazies, he raises the temperature of many decent folks against the irredeemable elites. Both regions are set on Guidelines and Hunger Games timetables by their compassionate elites.
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July 19, 2023 at 22:53 #16461
AHH
Keymaster
A, in addition to the interesting cake suggested by Mr P, here are some ways we deal with severe heat (those of us unable to enjoy the exquisite weather of Kenya or Uganda 🤓🤔 — note I am NOT being cheeky, lol). Was taught a lot by Yemenis, who live in even hotter weather than you without AC (!!)
- don’t towel off after showering, lol. The evaporation cools nicely. May work best in drier climes though.. And if water is not a consideration, shower every other hour or so!
- popsicles! get several molds from dollar stores and fill every night with 90-95% mix of water and your fav fruit juice. A light fruit like grape is heavenly.. I sometimes have to fight the kids for the last one…
- go native and thumb your nose at the heat! This actually works. I get to hating the AC and turn it off. You will get used to sweating, and it is actually healthier than the artificial AC environment. I and many sleep better under the fan than under the AC, and electricity bills are more kind. Also try drinking hot tea! For many, it increases sweating and paradoxically tolerance for heat. The ambiance is no longer hell..
hot/cold can be turned on its head and be made a state of mind..
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July 20, 2023 at 05:06 #16463
Mr P
ParticipantAHH> “Montreax may expire…” (!!!!!) Now my senses all aroused…Father would if by magic to send us his thought, give forth extemporaneously a legal brief on this Treaty. I have vague recollection of being perhaps 4 years old by the fire’s hearth going over maps while he explained the critical importance of the strait. His area of focus was International Law. After Magna Carta from Mother, his was perhaps my first law lecture, such as it was. But to aroused> Now I shall follow the scent.
The Brit, or nazi, if you like, view, no doubt, will follow the time-tested principle of “the Law is whatever the Judge says it is.” and claim, whatever logic and Law dictate, that the Treaty does not apply.
They say that the foreign office would find the right judge. They do have a fine records of so doing.
Was fubar in W1 not enough for the pirate raiders? “Distinguished British historians, including Basil Liddell Hart, have stated that had the campaign been carried to a successful conclusion, the war would have shortened.” Right. When, dear Basil, did it end?
There was a naval exercise @ Constanta Romania… Whatwegunnado now? may be a matter for nazis to decide between endless rushing on freebase coke…buttressed, no doubt, with a stiff backbone of pervitin. Recently Macgregor spoke to a Swedish naif of good disposition in re NATO and the US Command Structure, opining that the US structure was formed to employ generals and feed, well, you know… but that it was incapable of war. By structure, I believe, as well as resources and defective policies.
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BBC said Iraq affray Swedish provocations “small fire” and went on to some distraction, and nothing about this psychop is seen on site…which says it is ! Cute. So one “plan B” is to provoke emotion among the believers, “rumble the fractious ungrateful savages in the rebellious colonies.” Now, for Pittsburgh PA…. I can’t imagine another election season in USA… plan B….
………….BTW I agree with everything about the hot weather tactic. Chinese people say to drink warm water, I have read. Simple sugars and alcohol are not beneficial, of course. We arrange the day to follow the pattern, knock off work about noon, nap/read/fan. We have also a big AC, Mrs P favors that, I less so… When dear amarynth spoke of the condensate wetting things… well, this big house AC machine inhabits to loci, one inside, one outside. The inside evaporative machinery of course precipitates water, and there’s a drain pipe through the wall. This pipe, however, clogged… and insidiously wetness wicked up through hundreds of books. Most we saved, but the damages are forever. This drain circuit got modified so that I can in passing give a puff into a section of hose to sense any clogging. I mean to build an outside shower… But in the more simple way of things, a plastic “solar shower” thing hung in the sun or shade is very welcome. We lived that way for years, more or less. Oh, thinking back to Anita’s rice dish…perhaps some bits too of mutton. Longtimeago.
Best! P
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July 20, 2023 at 06:14 #16467
Mr P
ParticipantWell, not with red pencil and note-taking, but I read Lausanne as scan… I did not note any expiration date or period.
Of course I also read the wiki and followed to this> ” It has been claimed in civil and formal circles that the Treaty of Lausanne will expire in 2023. According to the conspiracy theory, Turkey is forbidden to mine its natural resources (such as boron and petroleum) due to the “secret articles” of the treaty; therefore, Turkey will rapidly become a developed country by mining and exporting its resources once the treaty expires.[20]”
Calling I F Stone… now that it’s been denied…
Recalling “not one inch…”
It doesn’t matter what the Treaties say…they simply make up lies as they go… Maybe there was deal. Much of the meat of the Treaty deals with money, aheeem…
When Twain quipped “whisky’s fer drinkin’ and water’s for fighting over” it may have been true in gold-rush California… but pirates fight over money, loot, as a basic activity, mostly in secret.
The practical matter is that Ruskie owns the Black Sea. It does come to mind that there may possibly be a rapid increase in the excavation of a new channel…if the nazis use nuclear method…https://interestingengineering.com/culture/us-almost-blasted-canal-nukes (note the date of the article…and what that implies.) One of my youthful cohort went to the Army and became a bomb officer for excavations. We chatted at a dinner about 1980 about the “charges”. Less than oil drum size was my impression. Alas, he’s dead already…
They’ll just say what they like about Treaties…
Best! P
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July 20, 2023 at 13:21 #16482
AHH
Keymaster“It doesn’t matter what the Treaties say…they simply make up lies as they go… Maybe there was deal.”
Exactly. In the best of times, neither Sea Pirates nor their lieutenants the Land-Pirate Turks are fastidious about Treaties. It is a temporary concession from their perspective, a minor restraint in times of weakness when they must grovel, to be pleasurably abrogated in sunnier days..
Erdogan and the Turks have been quite vociferous about the “100-year nature” of Lausanne, whatever the secret annals. They’ve promised mayhem (see my first comment). IIRC, it expires in three days according to their view. And it is linked to Montreux in ineluctable ways. Essentially same guarantors, actors, region and hegemonic mission. Was this why the Yanks gave the Ukraine portfolio to Perfide Albion?? They have ever led the Charge against Crimea and see it as their Last Mission.
Given the catastrophic setbacks to Russians on all fronts except the optical, why not abrogate the Montreux too?
However the issue is the Anglos are in a period of particular weakness. Russians converted the Black Sea into their lake and enjoy all missile and logistics advantages. They can move small pocket-rocket corvettes in via the Volga-Don rivers and associated canals systems. Even if Turks open the Straits to NATO, it is a turkey shoot — the sea equivalent of the Surovikin Line. And there is no Grain Deal to hide under. Turks and Anglos are toothless in this sea war. They will be no nearer their ultimate objective of getting Crimea.
So Turk revanchism with the ending of the Treaties is more flailing in the wind.. their only fruitful course is against the hapless Greeks, to recapture islands around Anatolia stripped by the Treaties. And the Greeks know the Turks are coming; they’ve denied the Cokehead their S-300s and armaments out of their own pure existential need. Even then, Turks help our cause by imploding NATO in the internecine war.
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yes, thanks for mentioning the nap, which I forgot. Ama may know it though, it’s a tradition in most Africa and the Med.. in the hottest times of the day around high noon, just after a light lunch, ’tis best to take the siesta… a prudent tradition for many millennia. Note only the crazed modern West insists on fighting nature and working 9-5 straight. Perhaps from the perspective of their elites, this daily corrosive lifestyle has the benefit of creating less feisty and argumentative citizenry?? One comes home a tired zombie, essentially being worked to death.
I was taught in med school of the strange and common phenomena in the West of just retired blue-collar (and increasingly white-collar) men, after working this merciless regime, suddenly dying a week or so after retiring! It is an inhumane lifestyle, which burns the candle on both ends. It is as if our heart engine, working overtime for 40+ years, just gives up when it is time to take a breather….
And as with the precedent-setting Romans, these legerdemains are useful to elites — citizenry is kept so busy and desperate and in ill-health so as to not interfere with Oligarchic plundering abroad! What a satanic paradigm harming all common men worldwide.
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July 20, 2023 at 14:15 #16484
Sudhi
ParticipantWe will be waiting for great deals
When Uncle Sam comes on wheels
While the Hollar Polack is on kneels
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July 20, 2023 at 16:37 #16485
AHH
KeymasterThe bottomless hatred of and rage at Russians by the West and Turks is most understandable. Imagine your alliance spread to the three corners of Earth. Became gods of mankind. Set all standards. Funnelled inwards a permanent mind-blowing tribute to sustain a life of leisure and sloth.
But in that fourth cold corner resides a small hardy people. Smart enough to know their limitations, more sensible, self-sufficient, living within their means, spiritual. Adopted your best knowledge and tech and bettered it, without sinking into degeneracy and satanism. Unbeatable in War, honed over millennia. And the Lord blessed their land, 1/6 of the dry surface, with all essential foodstuffs, fuels, gold, and commodities. They stick to the craw, indigestible.
Their very existence prevents sound sleep since All Under Heaven is not yours. And still around after 1,000 years of relentless war on them! In fact, stronger now than ever in their entire victorious history, always at your expense!
So let’s commiserate with the poor inbred bastards. A milli-second of silence please….. now onwards to Odessa!!!! 🤣😂
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July 20, 2023 at 14:09 #16483
Mr P
ParticipantYes…”this merciless regime…” and dropping off. Often alcohol and pharmaceutical dopes as well, they go nuts. (moderate work does bring freedom… ) Happens just now, to-day, I met a recently retired fire captain from a town in Arizona…@ the Dewdrop Grocery and Tesla Charge Station… he too really doesn’t know what to do…but he’s a responsible fella and will last long past his 62…on the way to the Sea @ Carmel, he said. Maybe buy a house…he’s well fixed. And fire captain is not a constant load…Interesting he agreed that the regime is fascist…which is a concession from a fella of his class. His age and memories helped, and he was educated. The trades and crafts allowed me to avoid “elastic limits upon the corpus and soul”…if one views the mortal coil as a dynamic structure running in at least 4 dimensions then one may decide to avoid long periods of stress. “Exceeding elastic limits” might be something an engineer moonlighting as coroner might write as cause of death. Just my general principle for many years – work hard for a time, then play for a time. I used to aim for 1200 hours per year…which, given the nature of the trades, permitted play about half the time. For a time we kept a 26 foot sailboat. Most of my cohort are dead. They worked too hard too long with the wrong things. Beyond arthritis and hair loss… well, still pretty fit. It seems to have been a valid policy or general principle. Excess in moderation in various balancing ways. Speaking of combat, er, stress, I note the subtle indication of concussion in one of the reporters on RT _ fella’s been under shelling too long…it shows in speech and face and eyes. A few times I have experienced close up blast from a 45milimeter cannon and an explosion or two. I really really did not like it. These were enough of blast concussion to last me a lifetime. Alas! Spelling! Murad Gazdiev needs a break, imho.
Jus’ ’bout nap-time amigos… maybe tomorrow go a fishin’. The river bass like sardine bait. I am a very poor and unskilled fisherman. But you meet nice people…
Best! P
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July 20, 2023 at 16:57 #16486
HT
ParticipantACs are hit and miss. I used to visit my ancestral land during hot summers as a kid. One of my cousins was fond of cranking up the AC to the max. There I was in a hot and humid 30 – 35 degrees climate with a cold.
Still don’t like em, and would rather sweat it out. Am keeping my kids away from these machines, they’re still very young. “Luckily”, there aren’t many ACs around where I live. But no central heating either and nights do get cold.
Used properly though, it can transform a backwater island into Singapore. Lee Kuan Yew seemed to love it.
Sad that many bodies just give up when their usefulness has expired. Whatever happened to “work to live, not live to work”, or is that a new phrase?
But then again, ambition and vanity do mess with our spirits. The Japanese have taken pride in their work quite far. And many Chinese are doing a 996 instead of “lying flat”.
Looks like there’s still a thing or two to learn from the old British adage about that dull boy called Jack.
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July 20, 2023 at 18:50 #16488
amarynth
KeymasterOh dear, we’re in tropical climate. If it gets too humid, we have to do something, if only to rescue all computers and similar technology because equipment rusts very quickly. It is cheaper to deal with a little aircon, than with buying computers every year. And I tend to love my computers, so, I don’t always want to replace them.
This season .. well, its hot! We have two rooms airconned. One is the office one, and we use both of them to full ability of any machine this year. Things are just strange.
But the rice dish? Oh boy .. pilafs, swedish rice puddin’ which is what it reminds me of, risotto – etc etc.. Flied Lice .. for those that do not say the R. It is like the pancakes that I wrote up! Goes around the world and feeds people. We have a family rice dish that has never failed to impress … I’ll write it up.
In the mean time we had a soft tropical downpour today. I hope for another tomorrow or in a day or two. Doors, windows and anything are open for the fresh air and we will sleep well tonight. If all goes according to plan, about middle August this heat will dissipate. If it is a weird heat phenomena, all bets are off and we have to nurse our basic aircons.
But back to rice. I did a course in Cuban Cooking years ago, and they have 28 (don’t call me a fibber but it is thereabouts?) methods to prepare rice. I was true to my course but halfway through, the family was kinda saying .. well, are we ever going to eat anything different than rice in this house?
Rice has such a history. We were on some Caribbean Spanish Island and husband flew in from somewhere else, having bought a good container of black rice as a gift to me .. rice actually is seed. So, they wanted to know at the import department what this was? He screwed up, and said it was Oro .. which is gold! Instead he needed to say Aroz which is rice. That is a crazy story.
Anyway, you talk rice, I talk paella … the king of food!
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July 21, 2023 at 05:48 #16491
Mr P
Participant
Just a bit of some rascal’s art work, right?
But set art aside…and note that RT news people on air misunderstand the NATO treaty….RT needs to commission perhaps a “special investigation documentary” on the Treaty, its background and the cryptonazis, and open nazis, who peopleds this device. and what the several articles actually mean, which isn’t what RT has been saying.
(amarynth, dear, if you want it gone, then please remove the art work, it’s perhaps too brutally true)
Best! P
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July 21, 2023 at 08:37 #16504
AHH
KeymasterHere’s the Brit adage:
“All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy”Dull is blandly said to be “boring.” It appears a pun. Like a sharp knife blunted, the intrinsically razor sharp human mind has been neutered. Submitted. A satanic mockery, no? The second part, made into a rhyme, makes this explicit:
“All play and no work makes Jack a mere toy.”Perhaps the second part also applies to the crafting of the ideal leisure class, one that is putty in elite decider hands. The current functionaries of NGOs abroad who are what Michael Hudson aptly termed, “talent scouts for traitors.”
Stanley Kubrick had a field day with this in his masterpiece “The Shining (1980).” This was a very deep movie. I hate horror, and didn’t initially like it, but came to appreciate its layers, more apparent with each viewing. It is 7 movies or so in one really: on the psychopathy of Anglo elites; genocide of native Americans; the abuse of gold in the world economy; pedophilia; the moon landings; incest; nature of madness, etc… He had moved from New York to England in 1961. He apparently realized he had moved from the Big Satan to the Really Big Satan.
Anyway, he used that saying of Jack to drive home several plots. On madness. Was it a reveal too of the essence of feudalism by the cruel and calculating Brits — to work a man to death — not only to maximize profit, but the Eugenicists did it to cull and weed out those who couldn’t hang in the inhuman system.
It even affected the upper middle class: resident-doctors in the US as recently as 20 years ago had finally received limitation of their weekly duty hours to 120 hours/ week (!!!) Do the math. Imagine their workload and duty hours before this, when it was merely reduced to a maximum of 17 hrs/day….
We joked amongst ourselves it was the last form of slave labor in USA. Even with those hours, and largely carrying the workload of hospitals, residents back then averaged some $30-35,000/annum (!!) And US medicine had inherited this brutal system from Pax Britannica in 19th century. Does it help explain why most western docs were perfunctory, cold, somewhat antisocial, and content to treat symptoms rather than the whole person? They were invariably too tired and punching in the clock, like a factory hand.
Father noted two facts several decades ago that shocked: (1) some of the dumbest humans he had ever known were docs in the West. They worked hard, but lacked imagination or ability to think outside the box. Maybe he didn’t factor in the workload and how many came to hate humanity too. They were essentially zombies, and by design.
(2) few professions were as potentially capable of being spiritual leaders in our dark age. Like Moses, who was trained in the best universities of his age, in superpower Egypt, and then received Revelation, they could combine the material and the eternal immaterial.
This also informs elite design of medical curricula, like the undergraduate, of dumbing down to blindly follow algorithms (benefiting Big Pharma), and treat symptoms, rather than to truly fly. And above all to so dangle the carrot of fabulous wealth to keep busy these natural leaders that they could not overturn the satanic paradigm.

And as we discussed above, they also did it to keep folks too tired, busy, and hand-to-mouth to not interfere with the plundering ways of their betters. Note what Crooke said about the demands of bourgeoisie after WW2:
“At the end of the two World Wars, west Europeans had sought a fairer society (the industrial society that had preceded the wars was frankly both feudal and brutal). Europeans wanted a new deal that cared for the less advantaged too. It was not socialism per se that was sought, though some plainly did want communism. Essentially, it was about re-inserting some ethical values into an amoral laissez-faire economic sphere.”The feudal West can’t have it both ways. Squeeze the very life-force, imagination, and innovation out of their dehumanized “human labor,” and compete against the larger, organized and industrial socialist states with a sense of stewardship and compassion breeding élan in a cohesive resilient society. This is why the smarter western philosophers of the early 20th century knew they were doomed and the future lay with Russia.
The miracle is their momentum of 400 years of Plunder still kept them going another 100 years. And here we are
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July 21, 2023 at 08:51 #16505
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July 21, 2023 at 11:47 #16516
Mr P
ParticipantGreat Cartoons!
The eight hour day was a reaction by labor, so that families might exist and read and children raised decently in literacy and health…the nazis responded with fascist gangs of hired thugs & machine guns and gasoline. Labor’s Untold Story…https://archive.org/details/laborsuntoldstor00boye The 8 hour day is going away…
Running construction involves schedules…and sometime such jobs as 9 months of 12 (which means more like 14 for the men) hour days with no time off. In shorter schedules it can be, and I have done, 40 continuous hours in freezing rain, or 100 hour weeks. Your situation was very poorly paid. Way worserthanmine! After a few years of being abused, and compromises due to family responsibilities, I went with the union…and had some pretty nice years in my 40’s and 50’s, and in the 60’s too…sometimes running the work, sometimes just a “hand”. Part of the fair pay, or almost fair pay, was because multimilliondollar fubars happen when the nazis hire scabs. After those the competent fellas get paid to do the job over and get it right! It was fun to skin the fascist finks. You get to say stuff sometimes. Such as “I don’t give a phuck who you are (finger in chest with contact!) get the phuck outta my engine room right now!” Fine fun! My favorite phrase was “Is this your signature?” Generally after that the job goes to cost-plus…
I much prefer being just a hand. The money is almost the same, and the liabilities quite modest. To keep competent men contractors usually pay over union scale and often provide a work truck and a credit card…and 100% of the usage is “work related”. Of course they’ll call you at midnight…and you better show up! 2 or 3 hundred grand was there for anybody that wanted the work… More than I wanted.
My sympathies lie with the old left, as I have said, and that view inclines me to see things as evolving toward a socialist peace at some future plateau…see this as inevitable.
But seriously, an interesting interview with the Kennedy and Col Mac… The diffidence Mac shows to Mr K struck me hard. He spoke as to a superior. https://youtu.be/gaBX3Iwi5Jw Yeah. Subtle. But I hear it as a sort of brief to the boss.
Best! P
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July 21, 2023 at 15:22 #16522
HT
ParticipantIt never occurred to me that computers rust in very humid climates. Would a dehumidifier make any difference in such an environment?
One could deduct the cost of acquisition for ACs and dehumidiers as “work related” usage. How else to save our digitally stored work?
Ancient Chinese doctors would only get paid so long their retained clients stayed healthy. “One cough and no more coins until you’ve fixed it doc”.
Obviously, dead patients stop paying. So no incentive to prescribe us those pesky jabs.

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July 21, 2023 at 16:54 #16523
siljan
ParticipantThe media in Sweden are heavily supportive of their Country joining NATO. No dissenting voices to be heard from the mainstream.
All to protect the Swedish people from those evil russkies of course. Refreshing to listen to some sane voices;Douglas Macgregor interview with Håkan Bergmark;
The weather not to much out of the ordinarie in western Canada, although it’s pushing +30C today. But I can tell you that I have never seen smoke from
wildfires like it has been this year. And I have lived here over forty years. Last weekend we couldn’t even go outside. It was dark and gloomy all day Sunday.
Some of the fires very suspicious imho.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/feds-warn-2023-on-track-to-be-the-worst-fire-season-ever-seen-in-canada-1.6428922AHH, I think you will like this;
Ali Farka Toure with Ry Cooder;
Mr. P, that picture is upsetting, but oh so true…
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July 21, 2023 at 19:24 #16529
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July 21, 2023 at 19:40 #16530
siljan
Participantthe above ended up on a new salon for some reason..?? It was meant to go under the already started open thread
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July 21, 2023 at 21:48 #16533
AHH
KeymasterWelcome back Siljan. I merged our threads.
Yes, I agree about the smoke. Pl take care and avoid its inhalation. Is a health hazard. It is affecting most of Canada?? Even Ottawa has been critical much of last weeks.
Thx for Ali Farka Toure with Ry Cooder. Real mellow and relaxing. But for us! For dying NATO and Empire, this lament by Boubacar Traoré is more fitting:
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July 21, 2023 at 22:50 #16534
AHH
KeymasterRe: “I much prefer being just a hand.” Me too. Less grief with less effort for a more productive and satisfying work environment. You get to do a job to your satisfaction, conscientiously, knowing you didn’t harm another human being.. Truly, it’s the dimwits in our disaster capitalism era which float to the top, no??

Re: “The diffidence Mac shows to Mr K struck me hard. He spoke as to a superior.” the good colonel is a company man. Bred and true. And has been given the medals and stature and platform to match. He knows his place and salutes his betters….. all u need to know.
The British-designed medical residency is truly inhumane and satanic. So many hours are spent onsite in the hospital, that every resident is given a small sleeping quarters. I still have PTSD when I hear a pager ring, and have refused to carry one for decades!
Residencies last an average of four years or so, depending on specialty. And keep in mind, in the USA – the track is as follows: 4 years of High School (HS), 4 of undergraduate studies, 4 of med school (MD), THEN 4+ of residency. For some surgical subspecialty residencies, such as cardiothoracic, it can be 9-12 years (!!). So up to 20 years post-HS.. And often to even qualify, they had to publish and get PhDs in advance — so many literally graduate as greybeards…
Even middling subspecialties like neurosurgery (~7 years post-MD) cauterizes a person’s life; a Joke: “the quality of the neurosurgeon is measured by # of divorces.” One of my mentors during first year wardship (in MD program, first two years are classroom and physical sciences lab didactics and last two years in hospital training) was deep into his own residency in vascular surgery and recommended we DO NOT enter that specialty track given work hours alone (!). I think he was determined to finish it himself not for the imminent $500k/yr but he had already spent 13-14 years post-HS. It was too late to back out and hefty bills awaited. He was a superb and humane physician too.
All this informs why medicine steadily lost the smartest minds – who sped into finance and get rich quick ponzi schemes. The money was not seen to be worth the terms of labor… all this deliberate IMHO, to desensitize each generation’s new docs so they do not care too much. The sheer workload makes them cynical and turns some antisocial.
Many get so used to the crazy work hours, thinking it is normal, not having understanding of history, human nature and bodily/mind/spiritual needs — that they continue working ridiculous hours. For example, in Emergency Med, they work average 12-hr shifts, about 4 days in a row/wk for about 2-3 weeks, a week off, then same 12-hr/4-shifts but at night. This wrecks havoc on sleep patterns, social life, life satisfaction itself. Even for those who love it… Their average career length is 9 years due to this madness (!!) Imagine all the pain, 12 years post-HS, for 9 years! The more intelligent get out early and transition to another specialty or enter academic medicine with more support, with research interests spreading out the pain. The entire Medical Cartel is geared to making docs so tired they are non-thinking zombies, killing themselves even as they work on palliative care on equally disturbed patients.
One of the best advice was given me by what I suspect was a bipolar air force generalist – an Irish catholic with good intentions, if a little batshit crazy. He’d travelled all over the US and abroad and noted most US docs were as debt-trapped as the rest. Many started spending WAY outta line during residency – they were docs now and deserved the best, no?? Imagine spending like crazy on $30k/yr for 4- 12 years, on top of $2-500k school loans, and $2-300k new home…. most take 30+ years to dig out. Why most did not blink and gave the killshots on command in 2021-2022…
Even after residency, many let egos get to their heads and overspent… million dollar homes above their means, latest luxury cars and bling, living paycheck-to-paycheck even though hauling $3-500k/yr! And many married to other docs too. The sheer madness of the entire society. This was one of his most useful charts for keeping a balance in life:

A friend’s father, a shrink, who’d entered medicine in 60-70s, complained he was earning far less while still seeing more patients. So medicare/medicaid was legislating them to death, as much of reimbursement ran through them and they set the insurance payments industry standards too.
Some docs spent 1-3 hours post-office hours on charts alone, after 8-10 hours seeing 28-40 patients (!!) trying to keep up with filing requirements both legally to cover their behind in a litigation-happy environment as well as reimbursement hoops needing satisfying with every single patient. Such an unhealthy and unhappy environment!!
NB: all this served to wipe out single practitioners, the honest independent backbone of primary care in the USA. Often the leaders of small-town Americana. They could not keep up with lawfare requirements and keep personal time. They pulled their shingles and joined multi-practitioner, or multi-specialty teams, and even these were becoming untenable due to billing requirements and workload. So they joined hospitals and huge private corporations. And became voiceless cogs in the iron wheel, earning paychecks and told what to prescribe and which algorithm to follow…
This is why as soon as I completed my residency, I got the hell outta dodge.
Even abroad this inhuman system followed, as the US/Brit system is most widely adopted worldwide. So I entered into academic medicine. It pays less, but following academic cycles you can take several months off per year, less onerous work hours even during the 9-10 months/yr (typically clinic is only one day/wk, the rest teaching & research). And particular bonus for me, as was in a history-teaching track in undergrad — I love teaching.
The entire western paradigm, crafted with satanic exactitude by the Brits, is dying on every level. Do you understand why the French youth, busy torching the entire nation, have the most sense?? When it gets this bad, it must be brought down. Only on the other side of the ashes is there hope….
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July 22, 2023 at 06:38 #16549
Mr P
ParticipantThank you kindly, Brother.
The academy had advantages, as you may realize Mother and Father cottoned to those very advantages…and it meant inter alia, despite heavy schedules, at least schedules! And periods for family. It worked, but not very well. There are a few trades – US merchant marine officer Captain (tanker any tonnage any ocean!) – last I know – 6 months and a day “on”, the balance of the year “off”. He blew most of the “off” time with whores and coke… and he’s dead. He did have a great series of “off” adventures, and several stimulating divorces. The construction trades are actually rather fun, especially in the union trades – the major difference being union builds a pension, and scabbin’ don’t. Union jobs are safer too. That matters…a serious injury, a small fall – can fubar the entire rodeo… An occupational hazard for the trades is a variety of honey-traps…father or not if they know your name…and emergency exparte court orders for support issue like confetti here in homoliberalanstalt. I have advised the fellas to stop going to bars and move up in class – and socialize with proper ladies. Some have done, and it’s saved them grief and money! The Union Contract can be a warm secure blanket…and a shield.
If I remember correctly, Mother was the sole “employee” for her surgeon father in a dusty Midwest town. Ran the office, and I think his brothers and he were combined for a time…During the depression that was. They got by, but had to keep a large garden (!). As I once said, at 16 she was at Stanford…a runaway! And obediently returned when her father came out to Palo Alto and asked her please to do so. I have the idea that I know the story because she had come to doubt that choice. So I share it for memory.
I had not really thought about the French youth and their motivation….in unworkable systems numerous simultaneous or near simultaneous “ignitions” tends to occur, so, with a shrug, I expect spontaneous manifestations throughout westzone. Everyone with power will try to exploit or stimulate or direct this in their desired ways, and these disparate efforts will produce a vector sum nobody desired – so I assume.
Corbett on Rockefeller speaks to the medicine take-over the art and rule it- plot, seems congruent, iirc, with your description. The cryptonazifinks turned art into pornography,compassion into icy cunning, love to hate…and see evil as good…recalling the classical quote. I did take on some mortgage debt, longtimeago…but weuns cotton to pay cash or do without. Quakercussidness? Caution…an’ shunning usury.
The hate felt toward Rus by westzone, this to me is a claim unsupported by memory. I always liked the Ruskies…and remember a rogue white Russian neighbor, obviously a genteel officer of Imperial Russian Army, abroad and engaged in the crimes of his class and trade… Neat fella. He went poof one day and was never seen again… no kidding. Looking back…weeeel…https://youtu.be/w-N_z6-T2CM Yeah, so I think. Anyway the idea that west hates east – well, I can see that’s where the easy loot resides, but ordinary multitudes do not lust for the Russian treasures – people say to me that they see Putin as a good Russian leader, good for Russia, but that they don’t care a whit for Russia one way or t’other. I don’t doube the claims, but they must apply to some other “demographic” than that in which we reside.
Enough! Sun’s up and do some work! Later…
Best! P
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July 22, 2023 at 11:18 #16551
Sudhi
ParticipantOh, East is East, and West is West,
and never the twain shall meet,
Till Earth and Sky stand presently
at God’s great Judgment Seat;
But there is neither East nor West,
Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,
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July 22, 2023 at 12:00 #16552
AHH
Keymaster“Corbett on Rockefeller speaks…” Exactly. This is what I was getting at. As with elementary education controlled by Carnegie and other foundations following the prudent Prussian design to regiment the entire society into obedient worker-drones and warrior-drones, so it was for medicine.
And like a start-gun going off, all these trusts and foundations did this legwork to craft the society that exists today around ww1 – many key medical orgs and academies and medical curricula criteria were established and legislated into mandatory state credentialing back then around the same time too. Prussian totalan krieg taught them to control all — even elite classes and the desirable tastes so as to not get in the way of the total war effort.
I was lucky. I was in a more humane generalist field. I really felt for the surgical guys, who drew the short end of the stick during training. And I came in at a time onerous duty hours were being limited to a max of 120 hrs/ weeks.. even so I was on call 2-3 nights per week in first year with two 36 continuous hrs weekly.
These 36 hours in a row typically began with 8 hours of outpatient clinic (or hospital rotation), then overnight hospital ER triaging/admitting our patients as well as following admitted inpatient wards during their overnight needs, and with last 4 hours or so in another clinic the next morning (!!) Would you want to be treated by anyone on his 33rd continuous hour in a life and death moment?!!! It is a brutal and brutalizing system, designed by British madmen.
I do appreciate timetables and the need to instill discipline and rote habit, necessary for the novice and which occurs with repetition and time.. the safest medical care is at the hands of practiced practitioners going through the muscle memory of “the usual care.” Contrary to accepted public wisdom, you do not want “the best care” — that can more often lead to mistakes and complications by the self-conscious; a guy doing the same thing he’s done for 10,000 other patients is much safer. And “idle hands are the devil’s workshop.”
But this was different. I was disturbed at the whole during training and even more so during reflection with the passage of time. Docs were undergoing an initiation of sorts, an involuntary trauma-based one as during covid with its lockdowns, masking, lack of human contact such as no hand-shaking, social distancing, working from home, even avoiding outdoors beaches and playgrounds for kids, the least at-risk age-group (!!).
This type of damage continues on looong after the trauma is removed, like a dormant yet weakening cancer. Every day in my town I see poor folks still driving alone or walking outdoors with a mask. This was never seen before 2020… folks became broken and damaged in terrible ways.
For example, among the consequences even for ostensibly intelligent and all-knowing docs is a curious lack of self-reliance and blind adherence to official guidelines. When one is habitually worn out and forced to make life & death decisions, one clings to authoritative algorithms — proffered by the CDC, FDA, specialty academies and boards, etc… imprinted during the traumatic process. One becomes like a fastidious chemist or cook — treating the numbers and odds rather than the complete unique human in front of you. And focused on acute care rather than comprehensive prevention with a judicious eye capable of zooming in and out from the here-and-now to the wider view. To be fair, sub-specializing furthered this latter process; each focuses on his narrow point of care.
Who benefits? It is a harsh and often career-long regimentation that has been instilled, of shaping fearful, diffident “healers” who do not think outside the box. This paradigm benefits neither the patient, physician nor the wider society deprived of essential public health and primary care. And imho, this is beyond just feeding the Medical Cartel and Big Pharma. It is about larger control, no? Medical care, like US foreign policy, has unaccountable forces behind the scenes driving it, to same catastrophic ends…
Docs largely had their authority and true wherewithal stripped, before they even got out of the gate, and ceased to have the courage to be communal leaders.. Docs were neutered and entire societies harmed, so sad…. And so, no one is available as a father figure, as a leader, as a source of inspiration and good. Nihilism and darkness prevails, filling the vacuum. This is how to take a civilization down
PS – the equivalent take-down of lawyers paced that of the medical practitioners.. remember Atticus Finch, Perry Mason, etc…?? Idealism lost, replaced by blood-suckers. And we arrived today at a “Justice Dep” which openly shields the Biden crime family

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July 22, 2023 at 19:13 #16554
AHH
KeymasterPutin in 2015: “50 years ago, the street of Leningrad taught me a rule: If a fight is inevitable, you have to throw the first punch.”
Does this apply to Belarussian mentality too? Like if they know the crazy Poles are about to suicide themselves??
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July 22, 2023 at 20:17 #16555
emersonreturn
Participantdear, ahh, i wonder. st pete’s urchin, does throw the first blow, slow to mount, but quick to ride, he is profoundly russian. the smo was methodically positioned, dulled by protocol, legal arguments, papers, interviews, appeals, presentations, & yet more protocol, as if to dull & hypnotize the agitated & salivating empire, confirming to them that they were right, mother was all partridge hedging, all talk, incapable of striking first, incapable of firing, in fact, begging to be sucker punched. rock hen up against gmo rooster. yet when the comedian began to rave about his nuclear wants & needs, putin instantly struck, first stop the npp & then to all the biolabs. done & done.
putin & team putin have fixed belarus, she is part of mother, any, all intrusions are upon mother’s person. poland has been well warned. we shall see, as i recall the poles can harbour romantic notions such as a cavalry charging tanks, it’s possible poland will not heed the words but concentrate on such offending truths as…stalin’s gift. choking fatally, yet again.
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