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    • #59286
      AHH
      Keymaster


      “The main difference between the EU and the Titanic is that the Titanic had enough power to sink with the lights on.”


      Last Thread: #59278

    • #59300
      Mr P
      Participant
      • #59313
        Mr P
        Participant

        Probably we ought to understand the attacks on Russian strategic aviation, the violation of the arms treaty, as a provocation intended to undermine Trump’s authority, and therefore as coordinated with the civil violence now underway in US cities. Probably Trump was blind-sided and did not know.

        anyway…Napolitano and Kwiatkowski…https://youtu.be/YTeRpeOaXNE…by the way Comrade Pepe follows the Colonel K

    • #59303
      Mr P
      Participant

      zone Kiev…https://x.com/dana916/status/1932403140013244712

      “visa center” kaputski

      …….

      zone Perisa…the zionist bomb information may be shared…https://x.com/IRIran_Military/status/1932409402352435335

      Everyone is taught in kindergarten to share, right?

      @IRIran_Military
      Breaking Statement by Iran’s Ministry of Intelligence Regarding the Transfer of Strategic Documents from the Zionist Regime: A portion of these documents will be made available to our armed forces and some of them will be shared with allied countries and anti-Zionist groups The obtained documents pertain to the following areas: . Israel’s nuclear weapons . Israel’s ties with American and European institutions . Israel’s nuclear program . Israel’s military and missile programs . Names, details, and addresses of Israeli officials and scientists . Information on scientists linked to Israel’s nuclear industry . Data on researchers of various nationalities collaborating with Israel Distribution Plan: – A portion of these documents will be released to the Iranian public. – A portion will be provided to relevant domestic institutions for research and utilization. – A portion will be allocated to the country’s armed forces. – A portion may be exchanged with allied nations or shared with anti-Zionist organizations and groups.

    • #59305
      Mr P
      Participant

      Laying ground to blame Rus for the Maidan riots (instead of the real culprits, especially the Brits)…nevertheless very funny… Olga Bazova >”‼️NEWSFLASH: “It is important to understand that by supplying weapons to People’s Republic of California, Russia does not become a party to the conflict,” Nebenzya …..https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1932410979343642847

    • #59310
      cronetoo
      Participant

      Kharkiv leveled

    • #59322
      Mr P
      Participant

      Well worth listening to Pepe…in this episode among other matters the SecDef is exposed to have lied to Congress…and much more!…see…https://youtu.be/jK8rPBTLhio

    • #59324
      Mr P
      Participant

      The Israeli Defense Force Seized the Sailboat Madleen in the Mediterranean

      Sal discusses…maybe Brits gave doublesecretpermission? see…https://youtu.be/hvlTOGuVRq8

      Kidnapping is more significant than the boarding. I heard they rammed the boat. This Sal does not mention. Ramming is another matter altogether, it’s an assault.

    • #59332
      Mr P
      Participant

      Comrade Borzzikman gives a report on whackzone 404, notes coincidence of whacks on Brit “terrorists” there with Comrade Lavrov’s blunt unequivocal statement, and says bigbigplan terrorist attack on Rus is being hatched to coincide with the nazi summit meet end of june. I guess that cat has left the bag 😉

      Huge SHOCK to BRITAIN: Russia Wiped Out MI6 HEADQUARTERS in KIEV┃NATO Vows To Get REVENGE

      As usual, the video component is unimportant, pretend it’s radio…

      see…https://youtu.be/zkp7pDmtc4c?t=9

      ……………..

      Always interesting to ask why the speaker speaks, and who speaks…

      Truth or falsity is another matter.

      I remember the Missile Crises of 1962, evidently the lady think this is worse…

      Tulsi Gabbard:

      “”Today, more than ever, we stand on the brink of nuclear annihilation, while the political elite and warmongers irresponsibly stoke fear and tensions between nuclear powers. They may be confident that they will have access to nuclear shelters for themselves and their families – shelters that ordinary people will not be able to get to. So it is up to us, ordinary people, to speak up and demand that this madness stop,”

      see…https://x.com/SMO_VZ/status/1932721811797491829?t=w7mUOo_PfYtKiLHwbX3B_g&s=19

      My hunch is that she’s talking about the perfidious Albionian nazifinks at MI6, and their zionist nazi monsters.

      ………….

      après une nuit d’amour

      ZELENSKY AND HIS FRIEND MARK

       

      • #59335
        amarynth
        Keymaster

        Not sure how old that Gabbard tweet is Mr P.  I scrolled back quickly in her stream to around her confirmation day, but could not see it.

        What strikes me is that it says:  ” … So it is up to us, ordinary people, to speak up and demand that this madness stop.”

        If it is before she became part of the administration it may make sense, but currently?  Is it not up to the administration that she is part of?

        Anyway …

         

         

        • #59339
          Mr P
          Participant

          Good point. My bad I guess. Note that the lady was then a reserve officer, not an ordinary person. The “current administration” is a dicey term, it’s not cohesive, but fragmented and factional…and cannot speak or act with clear authority…so it’s not up to the current administration. More likely “it” is up to the occult forces manipulating events influencing the current administration…my hunch is the twin monsters of MI6 and their pets in Palestine are attempting to trigger a nuclear war by such manipulation. They may mean only by brinkmanships and crises and riots to rid themselves of Orange man and regain influence, but the effect is the same, they risk everything. Meantime Lavrov and the Red Army have made it clear that Albion is in the cross-hairs of Russian rifle sights. Not amused, and not deceived.

    • #59336
      Mr P
      Participant

      Recalling Brrzzikman’s claim that a bigbignaziterrorist attack is planned to coincide with the nazi summit at the end of June…and Lavrov’s statement that the “anglo” did it does it…

      and the Dugin view of the “riots” (and the funding is obvious, even RT discusses it)

      another remarkable spontaneous coincidence…RIOT ZONE PLAN MAIDAN US

      To speak of insurrection and foreign influence would be to speak of the self evident, res ipsa loquitur.

      …………………….

      At one time….By the way, Grant in his autobiography, written as he was broke and dying from cancer, says that he thought at the time (he was a junior officer in 1848 in the invasion) that the annexation by war of Northern Mexico guaranteed that the us Civil War would occur….anyway, what’s stole oft comes unstole…so maybe the map shows the future…we’ll see what happens. Whatever…old map new map mexico

      • #59341
        AHH
        Keymaster

        interesting pattern to that map.
        Mostly Blue states??
        The Duopoly really takes its tasks seriously, and to heart. Biden’s gang focused on Red Texas, and other flyover deplorables. Red-Orange Chaos focuses on the degenerate Blue woke Dem grounds..

        “the sauce good for the goose is good for the gander.”

        This is how the professionals do it, a gentle rocking of the boat, here and there, alternating by term. How to stoke a Mighty Fire indeed.

        The civilizational-states have the eternal profile of the Sea Peoples.
        They have no need to invade CONUS whatsoever, save to safeguard the dangerous WMDs in the downstream. This controlled demolition has been in the works for generations -recall Bankster Warburg’s declaration in 1946 Senate: we shall have our NWO, by consent or conquest. And the USA was always the last stop on that train ride. So – who needs allies with such enemies???

        • #59342
          Mr P
          Participant

          Well, the US is invaded…not by force, but by the result of the policies, foreign (occult and overt) policy, capitalist exploitation policies…eventually the maps may reflect that. In a sense the annexation of Northern Mexico constituted two invasions, one in Mexico, and the other in the US. Similarly the Louisiana Purchase. And not simply WMD…the petrochemical plants too, and the refineries, pipelines, and so on. There are potent risks all over the place. Under the Biden fellas invasion by invitation…and the US invaded “itself” in 1865, in the Southern States…which remain garrisoned today.

    • #59338
      Mr P
      Participant

      Stumpy tells a story when he’s been drinking…it’s about a fella that worked for the DA. Seems this fella sold the names of the guys working for the East Side Gang…sold ’em to the West Side Gang…then the West Side Gang would whack those fellas. After a while the East Side Gang caught on and got ahold of that fella…now he swims with the fish.

      …………………..

      In other news…

      UN NAZI ID PERSIAN BOFFINS

    • #59345
      Mr P
      Participant

      Uncle Gilbert the Mild… What the Kremlin Thinks…https://youtu.be/wC6IGxEnJhk?t=133

      • #59347
        Mr P
        Participant

        Interesting…he opines that Rus has a desire to discipline UK, and that’s why Lavrov spoke as he did.

        Doctorow posited example sink two of his royalnesses’ submarines and nothing will happen…

        Popcorn? I remember the illegal Sinking of General Belgrano by a limey submarine…https://youtu.be/AO9afq1orpg?t=3

    • #59352
      emersonreturn
      Participant

      alastair crooke & danny

       

    • #59356
      cronetoo
      Participant

      emerson … this link goes to another video

      • #59358
        AHH
        Keymaster

        Danny does many two-fers – the first hour is one guest, the second hour another.. in this case, it is still live. Crooke’s hour is done – if you scroll to the beginning, you’ll see it

         

    • #59357
      cronetoo
      Participant

      Nima played Tulsi’s vid (above) this a.m. with McGovern and Helmer

    • #59370
      Mr P
      Participant

      Tulsi’s statement …. I have a vague recollection that it was said during the campaign. Vague.

      I do accept that the Orange guy does not desire a nuclear war, and neither does the lady. Evidently he made it plain that Nutty better not do it to Iran…. But I wonder, how difficult would it be for the zionist faction to bring a small nuke into the US for a very dramatic false flag….by such means in concert with all the rest, riots and stuff,  could they stampede Orange, or eliminate him in some way and use Vance, etc?

      Even in Saker days I realized and wrote that these people are delusional…perhaps better said would be “possessed”.

      Tulsi’s “we” is excluded from the political arena, powerless. Almost. And “we” are easily divided by adroit manipulators. Withal, it was / is a naive but sorta true statement.

    • #59375
      Mr P
      Participant

      The thought occured to me of course right away, that Maidans generally involve getting people shot dead…however I thought this better left unsaid, especially as everybody already knows…

      @ interslava it is said that “protesters” are using small arms…and that there are some 5,000 soldiers “deployed” in LA, and lotsa more stuff.

      examples…

      Rioters in Los Angeles throw a suspected pipe bomb, destroying car amid continued clashes in L.A. tonight.

      Chicago: “Absolute madness at Federal Plaza right now.”

      According to this live feed, there’s complete chaos at the Federal Plaza in Chicago. A van allegedly crashed into a stairwell. Protesters tagged it. The driver may have been arrested. The entire crowd starts running!

      NYPD and Anti-ICE Protesters continue to clash in Lower Manhattan outside of the NYC Federal Buildings.

      Atlanta is a war zone. Tear gas, rioters throwing fireworks at police.

      Using professional tactics to cover deployed tear gas with cones.

      There are more US troops in LA than in Iraq, Syria

      There are now more U.S. troops deployed to Los Angeles than in Iraq and Syria.

      There are 4,800 activated Guard and Marine personnel in LA, compared to the 2,500 troops in Iraq and 1,500 in Syria.

      MSNBC is reporting that ICE is preparing to deploy tactical units to five sanctuary cities run by Democratic mayors.
      The list includes: Seattle, Chicago, NYC, Philadelphia, and Northern Virginia.

      The protester says that LA is a Mexican city. And she calls Donald Trump a fascist.

      Also in LA, according to media reports, protesters began using small arms.

      Maidan is brewing in the USA. With the introduction of tanks and heavy equipment.

      All the fuss is due to dissatisfaction with Trump’s policies, which is spilling over into mass protests by migrants. Thus, on June 14, an aggressive action “No Kings” is planned across the country, provoked by tough measures against migrants and the violent dispersal of demonstrations in Los Angeles and a number of other cities with the involvement of the National Guard.

      The situation is aggravated by the fact that the protests coincide with celebrations of American Army Day, US Flag Day and President Trump’s birthday, which implies the presence of large amounts of military equipment on the streets of cities.

      ………………..

      Remarking that if the soldiers are shot at and hit, they may well shoot back…same for the cops, same for the federal fellas…such things serve a Maidan agenda. The video will be played over and over again….Kent State on acid!

      Also the claim (Napolitano) that the soldiers are not trained to arrest and deal with crouds may not be true, I have heard from my own contacts that they train alot for “crowd control”. 

      Also, “LA a Mexican City” … I can’t argue with that. It did have a period of anglo dominance though… now no more…. what innahresstin’ times! 

      • #59410
        AHH
        Keymaster

      • #59419
        amarynth
        Keymaster

        Today, Trump put on the brakes – he is so caring:  TruthSocial

        “Our great Farmers and people in the Hotel and Leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good, long time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace. In many cases the Criminals allowed into our Country by the VERY Stupid Biden Open Borders Policy are applying for those jobs. This is not good. We must protect our Farmers, but get the CRIMINALS OUT OF THE USA. Changes are coming! ”

        And then from that moment on it was the usual rage.

         

    • #59412
      Mr P
      Participant

      Actionzone 404 Borzzikman reports (see minute 7:39 + ) destruction of NATO Joint Coordination HQ zone Odessa. Eight highrank forg and limey NATO (nazi) officers were there liquidated, and many Ukrainian nazis.

      Also says bigbigplan includes Transnistria. Action Sumy heads for Kiev…

      Vast trashcompactionstrategy continues.

      see..https://youtu.be/RmdEmugTWJc

    • #59458
      Mr P
      Participant

      Noting that the attack on Ruski Strategic aviation by means of throw-away commercial container rigged with drones, and evidently also the ongoing attacks on Iran which are said to have also in part followed this general paradigm – that such an evolution of tactic has grave economic implications.

      The strong implication seems to be that every container, and vehicle of suitable configuration, will have to be inspected. In effect that means that the rate of inspection will match the rate of traffic 1:1. Since inspections interrupt the traffic in various ways and profoundly slow it, the rate of traffic will be reduced to a small fraction of the present rate. This translates to a throttling of commerce, especially sea-going commerce.

      So, what’s a “container”… new cars? Used cars? As a practical matter just about any object in commerce.

      Very recently the Orange fella was photographed at some military base with a container in the background, from which the noses of rockets protruded…so  it’s not simply electric drones…

      I am thinking that as the war follows its natural modern course almost all cargo traffic is going to stop. If the oil patches are affected, as expected, the shortage/costs will contribute to this effect. In the US the railroads and the freight trucks all depend on diesel. Now it’s about $2,000 to fill ‘er up…

      Boy am I glad we sold our big pick’emuptruck!

      • #59465
        AHH
        Keymaster

        The western side was perhaps panicked or forced into this move now, only 12 days after the container dronification of Russian bases, due to fear of loss of similar assets in Iran. Iran must have been combing everything .. they face the same Anglo-Zio-UkroNazi specialists of this new warfare.

        (After the pager terrorism was sprung on Hezbollah, Iran and Yemen immediately got rid of old stocks, that had not been updated to reliable non-western supply chains.)

        Note the numerology – it was already after midnight and on Friday 13th in Persia. And a day before the Orange Birthday. And two days before the G7 coven in Canaduh

        Aa Zhirinovsky said, horrors would unfold in West Asia as to make mankind forget about losses in the Ukraine

    • #59460
      Mr P
      Participant

      Fatboy never read Machiavelli , who advises not to write stupid things…

      trump admits us is a party to the war

       

      Take with salt, list of the murdered>https://x.com/ThetiMapping/status/1933389507111342151?t=o9it_ZudARi7r579KxIYRg&s=19      https://x.com/ThetiMapping/status/1933389507111342151?t=o9it_ZudARi7r579KxIYRg&s=19

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      Theti Mapping

      @ThetiMapping

      FULL LIST OF IRANIAN LEADERS KILLED BY ISRAEL: Military and political chain of comand: – Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces, Mohammad Bagheri – Commander-in-Chief of the IRGC, Hossein Salami – Ali Shamkhani, chief advisor to Ali Khamenei & a key leader in the nuclear program – Gholam Ali Rashid, Commander of the Unified Combatant Command Headquarters Nuclear scientists: – Mohammad Mehdi Tehranchi, key physicist in the nuclear program. Head of the Iranian Supreme Council for Science, Research, and Technology – Fereydoon Abbasi, former head of the Iranian Atomic Energy Organization – Dean of Shahid Beheshti University’s Faculty of Nuclear Engineering & a prominent nuclear scientist, Abdolhamid Minouchehr Unconfirmed but possible reports: – Commander of the Quds Force, Esmail Qaani – Commander of the IRGC’s Aerospace Forces, Amir Ali Hajizadeh – Head of the Intelligence Organization of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Mohammad Kazemi – Secretary of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council, Ali Akbar Ahmadian – Professor at the Faculty of Nuclear Engineering at Shahid Beheshti University, Ahmad Reza Zolfaghari – Dean of Malek Ashtar University and Deputy Defense Minister of the Ministry of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics, Reza Mozaffarinia Hosein

      10:02 PM · Jun 12, 2025
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      Brother Marandi gives a brief> https://x.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1933402851696652385

       

    • #59462
      Mr P
      Participant

      Interesting headline.liveticker from RT German> ” Trump warnt Iran vor seiner Auslöschung”

      Auslöschung translates as extinction or obliteration or annihilation…

      Geewhicz, Fatboy admits guilt in an intentional war of genocidal annihilation….better put that on the calender!

      RT Kraut>  https://rtde.rtde.world/

      ……………

      Elsewhere I saw, but lost the source…probably Pravda, that Comrade Kim has promised to aid Iran,,,maybe he’s got a few spare nukes…ya never kin tell.

    • #59464
      Mr P
      Participant

      Jarhead Scotty with Napolitano about the war that began last night…https://youtu.be/TJwAh244HeY

    • #59473
      Mr P
      Participant

      Maybe a leak, UF6 gas? Nasty stuff!

      Claim, take with salt…https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1933490008331333655

      ” Middle East Observer
      @ME_Observer_
      Iran: Assistant Director General of the Iranian Atomic Energy Organization Behrouz Kamalvandi: Chemical and radioactive contamination has been recorded inside the Natanz facility.
      4:41 AM · Jun 13, 2025

    • #59479
      Mr P
      Participant

      Moon of Alabama describes an indirect method…title: Iran Could Use Oil To Urge The U.S. To Sue For Peace…

      An indirect attack on the sponsor… Herr “b” posits 200/bl oil. Ahemthinkin’ why not 500? Hello Hormuz, hello gulf coast fake kingdoms… Meantime I see that his Royalness Shaw 2.0 is on standby for an assignment…regime change is indeed what the nazis dream…

      https://www.moonofalabama.org/The primary targets of Israel’s attack on Iran d…A more reasonable attack on the U.S. will target its economy. Iran can stop its production of oil. It has various means to stop oil and gas production in U.S. allied countries situated in its neighborhood. It can close down the Strait of Hormuz through which 25% of the global hydrocarbon productions is flowing. There is the little the U.S. could do to prevent Iran from sustaining such a blockade…..

      Trump wants lower oil prices and freedom to pursue his domestic agenda.
      A few month of oil prices at above $200/barrel would devastated the chances for Republicans to keep the House and the Senate. It would ruin Trump’s presidency. He would be forced to ask Iran for peace.

      There would be strong collateral damage in the global economy. Iran would be blamed for it. But everyone would also know that it was not Iran or its leader who started this.

      Liddell Hart tells us that in war the best strategies tend to be indirect. This tends to also be the best strategy in life, which may be understood to consist of a series of conflicts.

      I am rememberin’ that CIA promised Kennedy that the island’s people would support the Bay of Pigs invasion and overthrow Fidel…in the end who was deposed?

       

    • #59505
      Mr P
      Participant

      Salt, please…or salsa…but probably true….video clip nazi zone…incomming…https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1933590045388124480

      Mearsheimer with Napolitano reminds us of Bay of Pigs, where they tried to mousetrap Jack, and failed…says in this case Fatboy fell for the gag…that the zios intend that murkinboys git kilt to cinch the trap on Fatboy. What a chump!

      from Locals Magic airplane kaputski, pilot at large, will be innaarrestin’ to see what nationality he is, or was…depending on the breaks…film at 11 of interrogation? >

      AD increasingly working – coming off the ropes in round one.

      An Israeli pilot parachutes after his plane was shot down. Iran claims to have shot down an F-35. The pilot is being sought.

      Iranian media in the evening claim 3 planes and 7 drones were shot down. Not much compared to the damage, but at least it is something.

      The Iranian army officially claimed 2 planes were shot down.

      https://t.me/boris_rozhin/168333Video short + https://www.rt.com/news/619211-iran-fires-ballistic-missile-barrage

      …………………….

      US, Israeli, French, British and Jordanian warplanes are flying over Jordan, Syria and Iraq to intercept Iranian missiles.

      https://t.me/VanessaBeeley/38373

      COMRADE KIM EXPLAINS

       

    • #59511
      Mr P
      Participant

      Iron Dome no workie…https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1933590226124841044

      Smoke is rising all over down town Tel Aviv. It looks like the Iron Dome failed to intercept a couple missiles. There has been a massive explosion on the ground in Tel Aviv. A residential building may have been hit.

      ………………

      VVP calling…and I wonder what was said…https://www.rt.com/news/619207-putin-iran-israel-talks/

      …………………

      Comrade Dugin says Iran rejected a military alliance with Rus…https://x.com/peacemaket71/status/1933458329797320843

      See what happens Larry? (Walter)

       

    • #59513
      Mr P
      Participant

      Got bicycle?

      https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1933619322271756703

      Iranian Broadcasting Corporation: Closing the Strait of Hormuz by Iran and closing the Bab al-Mandab Strait by Yemen are among the options on the table! Iran can disrupt the world’s energy security, due to the actions of Israel
      Duh!

      OIL PATCH CHOKE POINTS

      Brilliant Strategist!

      GREAT STRATEGIST

       

    • #59514
      Mr P
      Participant

      Our intrepid sailorman Sal…What Does an Israel-Iran War Mean for Shipping? | Trade Through The Strait of Hormuz

      Stumpy’s givin’ odds on gasoline futures…say, did anyone buy put options on oil in the past few days, just askin’…maybe Fatboy and his pals made bank!

      see…https://youtu.be/zfSw4KZXC7M

    • #59515
      AHH
      Keymaster

      ☝️ recall this map, published by Yemenis late in 2023? They called it, “Al-Aqsa Triangle.” What times

      💠 @Middle East Spectator:
      ⭕ I can now confirm that Iranian air defense systems were subject to massive electronic jamming and cyber attacks within the first few hours of dawn today, combined with covert strikes from inside Iranian territory.

      It took the technicians of the air defense forces 8 hours to get them back up and running. But our guys managed to make it work.
      [So the silver lining: most are still around. The cyber and electronic warfare of the lads of the Prince of the Air is strong; it’s a capable Big Club. But the first blow has been overcome, now regularly repelling drones and whatnot. And 90M Persians are focused. Onto Round Two]

      • #59517
        Mr P
        Participant

        Sew the wind, reap the whirlwind… Ray and Larry discussed the possibility that Bibi will use atomic bombs…in part to avoid prison…my old prediction is that, in the end, the zionist outpost will be over-run, and there will be street battles that include machete….mano y mano stuff… It seems to me almost a sure thing that the oil patch is going to close, and I wonder too, if we will see sabotage in CONUS…not by Iran, but by people, “freelancers” sympathetic to Iran, of course false flags are also quite possible…Bebe wants murkinboys to bleed for zionism…about the bigbiglyparade zone DC, I wonder if the tanks and fellas have ammo handy…just sayin’  I am not sure, in fact I doubt, that atomic bombs on Iran would bring about an Iranian surrender…we recall that the US folks and pols all believe that the bomb tests on Hiroshima and Nagasaki caused Japan to surrender. That’s not true, it’s a myth. What decided the Japanese to surrender was the Red Army in Manchuria devouring the Japanese Army…there’s a lesson in that. I am also inclined to think about how long it will take Iran to put together a bomb or two….my WAG is that a rough copy of Little Boy could be had in a about 100 hours… LB was very inefficient, and nobody has ever bothered to make another, but it was so simple that it was sure to work…it was, iirc, 12kt. See Coster Mullen’s book, everything a fella needs to know, right down to dimensions…allyaneed is poot and a few things from the machine shop. As they shoot down the magic F35’s and capture pilots I also wonder what nationalities will be discovered…will we see contrite fellas on TV confessing? Fellas like Jonnywetstart McCain doing radio broadcasts sayin’ sorry.

        Wilkerson moots oil @ 300, and that Bebe would attack US “assets” as a flase flag, geewhiz, since they did 911, whyever not? Reports zionnazi have begun to whack Iranian oil assets…for it’s only startin’

        • #59519
          AHH
          Keymaster

          Most neither appreciate nor understand the mindset and preternatural patience and near-inhuman calculation of the civilizational-states, especially the elder two. They will NOT capitulate, even after getting nuked. They will bury the bastards.

          And they know their Eschatology, and their bitter role. Imran Hosein visited Qom and other Iranian holy cities and exchanged many notes; like in Yemen, a mighty fire is being stoked, commensurate to cancel the Passion of the Worst of supranational zionazis.

          Yes indeed, it will be a fight to the finish, and mano a mano short sword work, come Armageddon or Highwater

    • #59548
      Mr P
      Participant

      full text of the warplan which path to persia…

      https://archive.org/details/whichpathtopersi00kenn

      just scan through…FULLTEXT>

      https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/06_iran_strategy.pdf

      see particularly chapter 5…leave it to bebe

      and under title “diplomacy” the intent to use it to decieve

      Comrade Berletic speaks…https://youtu.be/bPAFvlPf-UE

    • #59551
      Mr P
      Participant

      Action review>https://youtu.be/UJwbODBzJGU

      Massive Defeat for Ukrainian Army – Russia Deploys Secret New Weapon Causing Nationwide Panic
      ruslan belov

      well, maybe it was secret…;)

    • #59554
      Mr P
      Participant

      Crazytimes…”A man impersonating a police office has reportedly shot two Minnesota lawmakers. A shelter-in-place order is in effect in Brooklyn Park, MN. Get the latest on the Minnesota shooting of lawmakers by a man impersonating law enforcement in our live breaking news coverage. The lawmakers shot in Minnesota by a person dressed as a police officer were reportedly MN Democratic Senator John Hoffman and Democratic House Rep Melissa Hortman. In this interactive live stream host Steve Lookner brings you the latest breaking news updates on the shooting of lawmakers in Minnesota by a man impersonating a police officer, and the manhunt in Brooklyn Park, MN, and he’ll also read your comments and questions on the air!”….see…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wjN4o-BvgM

      Pure coincidence, right?

      • #59572
        Mr P
        Participant

        adding murder most foul…”Rep. Melissa Hortman sounded absolutely TERRIFIED while speaking to the media after she voted NO on healthcare for illegals. She was just ass*ssinated this morning”

        (I assume this murder was by the fake cop)

        https://x.com/intheMatrixxx/status/1933922976178557310

        adding from Locals>

        (Wow I read they were shot in their home I did not know it was because they voted against the democrat party rule..wow)

        Meet Rep. Melissa Hortman.

        She’s a Dem in Minnesota.

        Melissa just voted to repeal healthcare for illegal aliens.

        You can tell in the video she knew there would be consequences.

        She was right.

        Melissa and her husband were just murdered.(I can’t confirm #Myinfo)

        Dem violence.

        see…https://x.com/C_3C_3/status/1933924288890904836?t=tuTcHt628Qf2PT9R82przw&s=19
        Both recently voted against their party on the 9th. Well Hortman voted with republicans, Hoffman didn’t vote at all.

        Tim Walz just confirmed the Hortmans have both been murdered after being shot “multiple times.” 🤬
        see..https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1933905013434409353?t=FhmzjeAaW7TuOCdg4LENNg&s=19

        Hortman was the dem who crossed party lines to end public healthcare for illegals. Hoffman is known for bipartisan legislation.

        If I had to guess, dems are murdering their own moderates, probably blaming it on the military parade today. Evil stuff.

        Pray for these two.

        BREAKING: Minnesota Senator John Hoffman (D) and State Rep. Melissa Hortman (D) have been shot at their homes. Condition unknown – KMSP/KSTP
        see…https://x.com/BNONews/status/1933872718715163051?t=KbY5ewE5_J8tvFqFmeS4fw&s=19

        REPORT: Shortly before Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman was shot and k*lled, she broke down in tears in front of cameras after siding with Republicans.

        Hortman was the lone Democrat who voted to cut health care access for adult illegal immigrants.

        “I did what leaders do… I stepped up and I got the job done for the people of Minnesota.”

        Hortman and her husband were k*lled shortly after this video was taken in their home. Police believe it was politically motivated.

        Video: KTTC (Shared on YouTube)
        see…https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1933924564419129643?t=pFkg2MDwIdagkVE5ewkESA&s=19
        Previous

        ENDE

    • #59556
      Mr P
      Participant

      Is Bebe actually hiding in Greece? Ahdunno…bebe and his friend

       

    • #59587
      Mr P
      Participant

      see…..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-O6STh36rY

      Comrade Levan reports call for mobilization… Russia to Mobilize Up to 1,000,000 (One Million) Reservists? Russian General Calls for It..

      Comrade General draws alotta water, and his is not an isolate voice.

      about 10 minutes…

    • #59597
      akidinthecrowd
      Participant

      This should be on the target list. A symbolic gesture to the delusional who want to dominate the world.

    • #59598
      akidinthecrowd
      Participant

      DonCheeto did text “I gave Iran chance after chance to make a deal”.

      this would send a clear message but the empire of lies would still not get it.

    • #59599
      Mr P
      Participant

      Previously I made note of the implications of the containerized weapons, drones, and what have you…the implication being that it would result in a throttling of commerce to equal the inspection rate…now I see that our brother  Comrade Karl has written a short note too…”International Commerce & Smuggling “- by Karl Sanchez Karl does not take the logic so far, but I am glad he’s onto the gag…see…https://karlof1.substack.com/p/international-commerce-and-smuggling…some may recall the Black Tom explosion…such, or similar, simple undetectable chemical devices in shipping could result in fire aboard ship to such a degree that shipping would become essentially impractical … well, after all, we do have a world war…what would one expect?

    • #59611
      Mr P
      Participant

      Some either idiot or cunning humorist made a funny…US FLAGDAY HAS RUSKIE FLAG

       

      • #59627
        Mr P
        Participant

        Some may miss the joke, note the Ruskie flags

    • #59612
      Mr P
      Participant

      ترامپ می‌خواهد ما به توافق برسیم. توافق این است که ما در جنگ  پیروز شویم. ما امیدواریم که این ترامپ را راضی کند.

      (Trump wants us to reach an agreement. The agreement is that we win the war. We hope that this will satisfy Trump.)

      trump wants deal

       

    • #59620
      Mr P
      Participant

      Uncle George gives dialogue, Comrade Marandi checks in too! MOATS

      see..https://youtu.be/JzAmDFMhuxA

      ……

      RT Kraut> Irak warnt vor Ölpreis von 300 US-Dollar pro Barrel — RT DE

      https://rtde.rtde.world/international/247898-irak-warnt-vor-oelpreis-von/

      ……………………

      With some salt, but probably true, Hal-the-agent says: “Iran Parliament to Vote Tomorrow: Withdraw from Nuclear non-Proliferation Treaty and CLOSING Strait of Hormuz”

      ……………..

      The claims by the nazis that they have destroyed missile launchers are probably mostly in error, as it’s well established that decoys abound.

       

      • #59626
        amarynth
        Keymaster

        That is true.
        They’re voting on this and voting on the closure of the two straits, with partial closure planned for the Gulf of Aden.

    • #59642
      Nico Cost
      Participant

      For the enthusiast; about the so-called moon landing:

      https://www.brighteon.com/8420d19b-5492-478b-b88a-4551a776ae9a

      • #59664
        akidinthecrowd
        Participant

        A simple way to look at this. There was no 50th Anniversary celebration on July 20, 2019 in commemoration of landing on the moon. There should have been if the story was true.

        Neil A. Armstrong, Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin Jr., and Michael Collins do have a plaque on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. That tells a lot about what it was.

        Those scripted words Neil A. Armstrong spoke on July 20, 1969 “That’s one small step for man. One giant leap for mankind” were not in reference to walking on a celestial body, those words were reference to the use of media to manipulate, mislead and deceive the masses. A mockery of the human mind and spirit.

        • #59665
          Mr P
          Participant

          One day the Chinese and the Russians at moonbase will visit the landing site(s) of all the landings, robot or “manned”. Meantime it’s my understanding that there is a significant amount of scrap on the surface. I accept that the man on the moon story is fake, but they say that the scrap is visible by optical means and of course by orbital radar…to-day – so if that’s true then we are left with more than a movie shot in Laurel Canyon, a coordinated operation with real rockets to the moon and real vehicles splashing into the sea… At the time, I believe, the technical means to forensically analyze the radio signals involved were available to the USSR…so they probably knew the intrepid moonwalker stuff was not true. I assume the fellas orbited for the time periods involved.

    • #59657
      Mr P
      Participant

      zone Baltic>Intel Reveals Possible Baltic Sea Provocation Against Russia by Ukraine and UK

      https://sputnikglobe.com/20250616/intel-reveals-possible-baltic-sea-provocation-against-russia-by-ukraine-and-uk-1122263155.html

      old torpedoes old seamines, film at 11…theater agitpprop…MOSCOW (Sputnik) – An attack on a US Navy ship with an allegedly Russian torpedo is one of the scenarios of anti-Russian provocations in the Baltic Sea, prepared by Ukraine and the United Kingdom, the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) said on Monday.

      ……………..

      Who’s to blame, (spin the fascist game, whichever way, it’s war) Comrade Crooke and Nap…https://youtu.be/Bsm7aMDKLBE

      Comrade Leader knows leadership! see…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40RSP20QYTU

      • #59672
        AHH
        Keymaster

        “spin the fascist game, whichever way

        Exactly. They’re captives in the most exquisite unreal Rabbit Hole in human history. The Empire of the Mind and Illusions.

        If they wish to have a voice, any voice whatsoever at this point, especially concerning current events tearing the world apart, they can really only address issues from within collapsing Overton windows.

        And they are forced to spend most of their extremely precious time on meaningless minutiae on the evil side, — justifying, excusing, he said/she said to throw dust at eyes, navel gazing into useless rationale incapable of affecting meaningful change. Absolute irrelevance in the big scheme of real events.

        The rules of the game, if they wanna play…

        The reality is as with “negotiations” against any of the last main targets of the civilizational-states, as threats, sanctions and hybrid war proved ineffective for generations, now the only recourse is raw power. And they ain’t got much at all in the chamber, or of guns for that matter.

        Is it sad. These two are as perceptive as Will S, but boxed in by invisible iron cages of the mind, never permitted to truly take wing…. they flit within the cage like neurotic little canaries, at all times hellbent on never touching the bars to the disintegrating construct

    • #59666
      Mr P
      Participant

      zone K…”The fact is that a strike similar to the Israeli one had been planned for a long time, but not against Iran, but against Russia, specifically the Kaliningrad ”

      Thus it seems that the splendid catastrophe of nazi attack has provided, is providing, an example of how the delusional desperate nazi plans to snip off Kaliningrad would have gone, or maybe will yet, go.

      Note the sputnik story about a FF with old Soviet torpedoes and/or seamines…and also note that the nazis can not surrender, they’ll work at conquest like the Krauts did, all the way back to Berlin in ruins.

      Anyway> Вместо Ирана должна была быть Россия: подлый удар по Калининграду сорвался – РИА Новости, 16.06.2025  https://ria.ru/20250616/kaliningrad-2022967990.html

      FATHER RUS DISCIPLINES NAUGHTY BALTICS:

      FATHER RUS DISCIPLINES NAUGHTY BALTICS

       

    • #59669
      Mr P
      Participant

      The murdered patsy speaks from the grave…murdered patsy OBL

      ……………………

      File under “F” for fascist…new division of nazi army, https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1934608000813080921

      “The U.S. Army has formally enlisted top executives from OpenAI, Meta, and Palantir—not as advisors, but as uniformed officers. This marks the launch of Detachment 201, a new “innovation unit” aimed at integrating private-sector AI expertise directly into military operations.”

      (my bold)

      Yeah, ok, what rank and where in the chain of command?

       

    • #59671
      Mr P
      Participant

      “detachment 201” (wiki) >

      START WIKI> Detachment 201, also known as the Executive Innovation Corps, is a United States Army Reserve group formed of US technology executives directly commissioned to the rank of Lt. Colonel. (my bold)

      The alleged purpose of the initiative is to “fuse cutting-edge tech expertise with military innovation” by recruiting senior tech executives to serve part-time in the Army Reserve as senior advisors. A statement by the United States Army made on social media said the group “will work on targeted projects to help guide rapid and scalable tech solutions to complex problems” in order to “make the force leaner, smarter, and more lethal.”

      The initial group of executives sworn into on June 13, 2025 includes Facebook parent company Meta Platforms CTO Andrew Bosworth, OpenAI executives Kevin Weil and Bob McGrew, and Palantir Technologies CTO Shyam Sankar.” ENDE

      Quiz question> In the case that the US is classified as an enemy in a war by an Nth Foreign State, by Iran perhaps, or China or Russia or North Korea or Pakistan,  does their enlistment make them legal targets?

       

       

      • #59689
        akidinthecrowd
        Participant

        Detachment 201… hmmm..sounds like  Event 201 held on October 18, 2019. A Global Pandemic Exercise ….. and that live exercise is still ongoing.
        Detachment 201 …. Possibly the completion of the detachment from discernible reality? Where the reality of VR goggles and coke or fentanyl make up for all the chaos caused by these people.

    • #59674
      Mr P
      Participant

      Dialogeworks and Ted Postal on the magic dome…https://youtu.be/X6dZMMvRegQ

    • #59682
      Mr P
      Participant

      Four count’em four magic flyers kaputski, they say…I hope the pilots are ok and safe. They say jail is pretty safe.

      Iranian armed forces’ air defenses shot down an F-35 fighter jet in the city of Tabriz, northwestern Iran.

      https://t.me/PalestineResist/78758

      ……………………

      Brother Larry and Napolitano discuss “Is Trump Afraid of Bebe?”  (translation> refer to the Epstein File)….https://youtu.be/1d–64tNWUc

      ……..

      Fatboy’s going for broke, like we knew he would…I wonder what a KC130 loaded with Jetfuel looks like at night when it’s hit?

      Fatboy>ADAM on X: “Trump just basically said he’s ready to go to war with Iran. Now is the time to challenge your favourite influencer to prove they’re not a fraud. Trump must be relentlessly chastised for this. This will END America. https://x.com/AdameMedia/status/1934645733975638264

      (Fatty’s looking a little bit unwell, I think)

    • #59686
      Mr P
      Participant

      Brother Marandi chats with Napolitano…https://youtu.be/1GUN3Kukb9Q

    • #59694
      Mr P
      Participant

      I do not doubt the report ” North Korean President Kim Jong Un: If Israel continues, we will enter an official war with it with the support of Iran.” but at KCNA I am unable to find the report. http://www.kcna.kp/en

      ……………

      Meantime….Fatboy …actions speak, his words are meaningless…see Military Summary>https://youtu.be/3bKL_6hn8fs  says Yanks abandon zone 404…so it’s said…send everything they got to zone P….

      Oy veh! Off to the trash-compaction zone…

      Sooo…if Comrade Kim joins with Iran and the nazis join their clients at the forward base in Palestine…well! I must hurry to Stumpy’s Tavern and get my bets down right away!

      MS always has catchy titles…Doomsday☄️US Masses Forces Near Iran⚡️Ukraine Left Without Western Support💔MilitarySummary 2025.6.16

      Davai!

      • #59697
        Nico Cost
        Participant

        Not to you Mr. P, but ‘If Israel continues’. To do what? Iran? Gaza? And, wouldn’t it be strange if North Korea declares an official war with Israel when Iran doesn’t? Why talk and don’t act (Gaza)? But at least North Korea is into action, what we cannot say about so many other (BRICS in name only; Bino) countries.

         

        • #59698
          Mr P
          Participant

          Nico, the report is at https://sovereignista.com/2025/06/10/daily-chronicles-130/  That’s why I don’t doubt it, but I’d like to understand it better, hence my search for the source at KCNA and etc. Like you, I too find the statement ambiguous and poorly defined. Naturally the Korean language translation to English probably leaves us with difficulties…I’d like to know how the original in Korean is nuanced and to understand the context. I am also recalling Nima’s “two weeks”…which he was absolutely sure of (said in reply to Pepe, who challenged it)…well, two weeks is enough to make a gun-type weapon…but they use about 75 pounds of 90%+ U235 and are very wasteful, according to my research –  about 12 kt too, trivial in the scope of these infernal machines. The implication seems to be that a transfer is an option. That seems to suggest Pakistan or Comrade Kim…and there is no peace treaty between the US and North Korea, a state of war continues…so the claim attributed to Kim may be quite genuine. If that’s the case, Kim may be making the reasoned assumption that the US is in alliance with Israel against Iran, and therefore a legitimate and lawful opponent for North Korea. Maybe we’ll know more tomorrow.

    • #59699
      Mr P
      Participant

      As everyone knows, false flags to provide “consent” for some agenda or other, sometimes for making a war, sometimes for unconstitutional legislation, and so on, is a tradition of long standing in fascist-ruled states. We here have been lately hearing and reading about a false flag attributed to Iran as a possibility.

      Thus the claim from our hysterical alarmist FBI informer Hal does imply a certain preparation… He says:

      Hal Turner Radio Show – Uh Oh! U.S. Puts “Nuke Sniffer” Plane on Patrol – Over CONUS!

      “The United States Air Force has put a Boeing WC-135R “Constant Phoenix (Nuclear-Sniffer) aircraft on patrol over the continental United States; specifically over South Dakota and Nebraska.

      Using callsign TOPCT29, the aircraft is clearly operating in a search pattern from northwest South Dakota, to southeast Nebraska.

      The WC-135 Constant Phoenix is a special-purpose aircraft derived from the Boeing C-135 Stratolifter and used by the United States Air Force. Its mission is to collect samples from the atmosphere for the purpose of detecting and identifying nuclear explosions. It is also informally referred to as the “weather bird” or “the sniffer” by workers on the program and international media respectively.

      When asked why this particular aircraft seemed to be conducting a search pattern over the continental United States, the Pentagon replied “We have no comment.”

      ENDE

      Note that these explosives don’t leave the maker’s name – or the name of the fellas wot brung it… Like blaming Oswald for the murder he did not do, the patsy gets named by the fellas that did it. Trust the science, they say…

    • #59703
      Mr P
      Participant

      5:01 PM · Jun 16, 2025

      ViewsElijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 on X: “Something big is under preparation against Iran. Donald Trump asked his National Securuity team to prepare for a meeting. The U.S. is moving from a posture of diplomacy to active war planning or imminent military action. China asked all its nationals to leave Israel” / X

      https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1934763311704244423

      Fatboy tells people to evacuate Tehran “immediately”…

      Afterward he’ll shirk responsibility, saying “I told ’em to get out…”

      Looks to some like it’s going nuke…and maybe that’s what Comrade Kim suspects?

       

       

       

      • #59712
        Grieved
        Participant

        I worried about that Evacuate Tehran thing, but then I remembered my own advice never to listen to any word from him.

        As to nukes, I’ve been thinking that Israel wants the US in the war because they want the US to nuke Iran, and they don’t want to be blamed for using their well known Samson Option. Cowards that they are, they want the US to do the deed, and Israel-bitch that the US is, it probably would do it.

        And one could surmise that Pakistan and North Korea are jumping in so quickly, not so much to aid Iran directly, as to provide a nuclear counterweight to anything “unthinkable” the Pentagon might decide to think. A necessary move of global checkmate – for which I am enormously grateful.

    • #59733
      Mr P
      Participant

      After stealing and smuggling stuff out of Russia… Congratulations on your appointment [as new MI6 fuhrer] , Bella Konstantinovna Dobrovolskay

      see…https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1934692730262741274

    • #59734
      Mr P
      Participant

      CIA Secretly Financed Political Career of “Monster of Showa” Who Was Responsible For Deaths of Over 1.5 Million Chinese Slave Workers in WWII

      CIA Secretly Financed Political Career of “Monster of Showa” Who Was Responsible For Deaths of Over 1.5 Million Chinese Slave Workers in WWII

       

    • #59735
      Mr P
      Participant

      If true this claim would explain things…Mossad’s VIP Pedophile Blackmail Material Hacked by Iran Days Before Israel Declared War  see…https://x.com/tpvsean/status/1934340625479934430

    • #59764
      Mr P
      Participant

      Helmer discusses the US plan for zone Iran…https://johnhelmer.net/trump-is-about-to-play-stalins-card-in-iran-two-maps-and-two-tweets-to-explain/

      I disagree with his tone and evident pessimistic view of the outcome.

      Nevertheless it’s worth reading as a history.

      In para 4 he’s somewhat mistaken… Truman explicitly threatened to use nuclear weapons on the Red Army unless it departed Iran.

      But overall, Helmer’s wrong. Now everything’s different, the old empire is foundering, corrupt, and broke, not prosperous and healthy. Russia and Iran and China, and, yes Pakistan and North Korea well armed, robust, and engaged…and this time what’s on the table is the whole prize…retreat is not a viable option as it was in ’46

      Probably the nazi airforce will bomb Iran, and probably get bloodied….after that…well, everyone knows…nazis doan like to lose…

      Movie for tonight Treasure of Sierra Madre…”we doan wan yer guns for nothing…”

      ……………..

      Zone Hormuz does not look to me like an accidental collision. More to come yewbetcha!

       

    • #59770
      Mr P
      Participant

      Comrade Kim’s news with English voiceover…all about the Fatboy’s bigly parade…

      YCMTSU…https://x.com/dlugajjuly/status/1934963202028101831?s=61

      ………………………….

      Let’s think about the fact that one does not demand surrender unless one’s making war…”President Trump is demanding Iran’s “UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER” …”

      ………………Speaking of war, only Congress can make war…https://x.com/legittargets/status/1934988063983247418?s=61  I well remember when Uncle Ho used Soviet SA2 to land B52’s….people say the modern stuff is way better at landing airplanes…

      To stampede and create “consent” Fatboy’s master will have to make a bigly FF, so they say…

      ………………………

      Jarhead chat…https://youtu.be/2xOGM2oCsO4  (the brave and bright Rachel B is easy to like, ain’t she…Scotty not so much)

    • #59771
      Mr P
      Participant

      Near the end of Borzzikman …….https://youtu.be/pwFhII1Qmz8……..he gets to the point…Chinese and Russian air defense data and equipment…with that stuff landing the nazi bombers and flying piggies may go pretty well…but of course after that things get, er, less predictable…

    • #59784
      Mr P
      Participant

      My opinion is that this does not call for salt…

      I remember and copied at the time a post from a guard at the jail, said he walked.

      Pastor Bob Joyce on X: “EXCLUSIVE: Virginia Giuffre’s ‘Deadman’s Switch’ Released: “I Have Been Murdered – This is the REAL Epstein List” …

      https://x.com/PastorBobJ11071/status/1935036480923328618

      The lady gives new meaning to “film at 11”

      Some may speculate that Fatboy’s war is to destroy evidence that the Iranians hacked from Ben Mileikowsky’s blackmail fileshttps://helenaglass.net/2025/06/17/the-iran-nuclear-weapon-is-a-trove-of-israeli-blackmail/

      a fella at Locals posted his speculation...

      “June 7th, Iran releases a media statement that they have successfully hacked into the Israel governments data system and obtained expansive documents, pictures and videos crucial to Israel’s security. Complete media blackout in US.

      June 12th Israel attacks Iran. In order to destroy the data which has already been secured elsewhere.

      The Nuclear being referred to by Trump and Netanyahu is Israel’s Blackmail Database.

      Beyond the Epstein files. The data reveals Israel’s nuclear arsenal. America’s involvement in 9-11.”

      Maybe so…

       

    • #59786
      Mr P
      Participant

      Our odd brother Hal the Fink claims Hal Turner Radio Show – URGENT: FOUR **AMERICAN** REFUELING TANKERS TAKE OFF FROM BEN GURION  (and fighters too, he says)

      If this claim was out of context I take it with plenty of salt, but since it is in context…well, you know….Plan R an’ all that stuff….movie for tonight https://clip.cafe/dr-strangelove-or-how-i-learned-stop-worrying-love-the-bomb-1964/stay-on-the-bomb-run/

      https://halturnerradioshow.com/

      he’s live at 6PM westcoast, and at his website you can click on the audio when he goes live, not that he’s especially innaarestin’

      It’s plain as day where things are going…

    • #59787
      Grieved
      Participant

      Mr P, thanks for your many recent posts. Lotsa dots…do they connect? As you would say, “Quiz Friday” 🙂

    • #59792
      Grieved
      Participant

      Kim Iversen, who is an excellent journalist, turns to the Evangelical Christians of the US, and examines their interpretation of prophesy. Their interpretation calls Israel the underdog, and foretells that Jesus will return to Earth to bring victory to Israel in its greatest hour of need, and the end of times.

      With superb logic and reasoning, she starts at source with the prophesy of Gog and Magog and lays out its descriptions of exactly who are the underdogs and the oppressors. She turns it around to suggest that Palestine is the actual “Israel” of the prophesy, and that the attackers “gathered from the nations” who surround and oppress, are the West and its false entity, the construct of Zionism.

      She does a beautiful job. I admire the mind that can make this argument, and the spirited courage that makes it. It’s fun, and only 20 minutes (you’ll wish it was longer):

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