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    • #14488
      AHH
      Keymaster

    • #14517
      AHH
      Keymaster

      Ok A, let’s continue our interesting dialogue here without capsizing the Chronicles..

      We just dont know... it is so hair-raising our moment in time. There’s gonna be only one chance to get it right, and defuse it, and prevent the crazed from activating Samson Options in their spiteful agony. I really wish our diplomats well. They will really need to thread the Eye of the Needle.

      And India (and her current efforts), for all its foibles and weaknesses and contradictions, may hold our Fate in her weathered hands… consider her role in this year of 2023: the Host of the G20 and SCO. The former is in essence supplanting the gridlocked UNSC as a forum of dialogue, and the latter is evolving to become premier security arrangement in Asia..

      India is the only major power from BRICS+ able to sit with both G7 and SCO. The only one with cache with both Ukies/West & Russia AND Global South. It is the current indispensable bridge to all destinations…

      As all the responsible and humane work to avert Armageddon, it follows India’s unique role will be leveraged. Ambassador Venkatesh Varma merely stated the obvious…

      PS — when a Smoothie video highlighted ALL the key components made with western tech in that doomed Chinese airliner, 😂🤣😅, I had visions of French Mistrals…. remember them?! But somethings need to be swallowed. Like looted Russian forex which birthed the end of the Petrodollar and the western banks as safe havens. When they stiff China’s shining new airliner, it will lead to another stampede away from west – their tech this time, which is no better than Russian engines which will be delighted to expand their markets. So… about those GE engines (🤣🤣🤣) guess where India will soon go when it sees the political warfare on China by the non-agreement capable?

      PPS — I liked Sakers advice to hold off on media memes and wave of psyop for about 48 hours. Much are lies, designed to lead to dismay and despair. They are the weaker party, resorting to rank innuendos like the current terrorism campaign inside Russia. And the globaltimes article could be a warning by a nervous China to an India it can never fully trust, given ongoing border issues, flirting with QUAD, and a long painful history (most of the opium which destroyed China was made in British India, and it has many Anglophile compradore elites to this day).

      We will see India’s real posture soon enough. If it starts “naval exercises” with QUAD or this NATO+ (!!) in SCS or resumes border skirmishes with China around Tibet, then India has been convinced to suicide itself like Germany and Thailand. I doubt we will see this.

      The reality is that after 500 years, it has become equally intolerable for the Global Majority to humor the delusional exceptionalist western Unreality Bubbles. Much of what we see are tactical PsyWar, largely by West, but undoubtedly from the opposing side too. There are many ways to collapse a crazed Hegemon without resorting to war — one is being strung along by ostensible allies as lifeblood ebbs away

      • #14529
        amarynth
        Keymaster

        Gossip-rumor says it is Modi that would not appear with China and Pakistan after the Chinese boycott of the G20 in Kashmir and Pakistan because of the rallies against the G20 in Pakistan.

    • #14526
      Sudhi
      Participant

    • #14530
      Mr P
      Participant

      One chance to get it right…”We just don’t know… it is so hair-raising our moment in time. There’s gonna be only one chance to get it right, and defuse it, and prevent the crazed from activating Samson Options in their spiteful agony. I really wish our diplomats well. They will really need to thread the Eye of the Needle.”

      Me too. The switch-bounce model – a bit like Mod #1 Type #1 test that has to work on the first shot, it can fry a little, but it has to work.

      Respecting bad luck, “Missiles of Okinawa”  ie Sampson may not occur as option, but as fubar or rat-phuck.

      The fella with the dead car, his father is older than I, and lonely. 4 years in Vietnam war running an M-60 from a Huey. Entirely unsophisticated save by Time’s lessons. He sees the condition almost clearly, and despairs for the Future of the US, as the US, in his eye, has disappeared already…  Couldn’t care less about Russia, sees Putin as a leader he wishes the US had. He’s near to death. And almost content, awaiting his release. The car belongs to his son. They’re both just at the doorstep, so to say. You know what he saw. He accepts the betrayal with resignation, but doesn’t forget. He can’t..

      Note Turner and Moldova invite extended to nazito to c’mon in and git that ammo…rather risible. Indeed, c’mon in the water’s fine, let us see just how deep…how is that tar baby anyway… The wisdom of cultures always brings a smile. Is that paint wet? Right. Phuckaroundandfindout 101, active freshman exercise.

      In Kosovo rodeo 101st Airborne seen amongst the “piece-keepers”, one fella anyway. They say the Bondstealbase is a site for special pharmaceutical contraband…money on the table? When not?

      Simplicius has a long post with much substance, and weight.

      Indeed, let’s keep the dialogue in buoyant stability (fun>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacentric_height)  A useful model for dialogue, rather, imho!

      Best! P

       

    • #14531
      AHH
      Keymaster

      Yeah the Moldava get together yesterday was interesting. Most of NATO showed up. Look at the family portrait!

      Some had sense to stay away – Erdogan for example. Supposedly this entire thing was Macron’s brainchild, to move France into European prominence? He can’t abide Macron or France..

      Others disappointingly did not – Vucic of Serbia.

      Talk about disastrous optics, when your nation is occupied by NATO, which reinforces its position (like in Peru) and just threatened it, you show up here! And the two Jokers – Aliyev of Azerbaijan and Pashinyan of Armenia came as planned. I assume they signed as promised to Putin, but in this Moldavan coven. And the Cokehead showed up!

      Moldava, if it admits Ukie troops would be in breach of treaties of neutrality underwritten by Russia. So they are actually doing Russia a favor, helping it secure the land-bridge to Transnistria once the time comes to connect it to Odessa. And given that modern Moldava itself is an artificial amalgation like the Ukraine, it too should disappear, as Bessarabia returns to Russia, and other parts to Romania…. It is a shame. Most of its population is pro-Russia but its nomenklatura are absolutely rabid. That is why Polish arms just arrived, to manhandle the population? Proper “western democracy” at your service!

      And I think the excuse of getting in to loot the stored ammo is bunk – most of it is expired after 30-40+ years in storage and as dangerous for the handling troops. They just need to expand the war and open new fronts as the Ukies finish expiring…. and the inadequate cut-out the Ms. Sandu of the WEF obliges…

      PS – I note the Trumpster keeps mouthing off about invading Mexico… this is not to be taken lightly. Mexico is not only threatened, it has already been flooded by weaponry the US ostensibly gave to the Ukraine, now spotted in cartel hands. Oh boy…. I think the plan is to start something big on the southern border, if only to keep the lemmings distracted when the collapse fully enters CONUS. A livelier version of breads and circuses…

      ZZzzzzzzzz……………

      Even if India is acting capriciously and incompetently atm – it is too important to dismiss. Almost 1 in 5 humans live there! Rulers come and go.. Mercouris made an excellent point: the current shenanigans by the demented neocons to undermine Modi, if successful, and results in bringing back the Congress party to power – would just set them back! Congress is an even deeper ally of Russia, as the ruling party of India through the entire Cold War except for four years. Congress helped found NAM and has so many socialists. So the love affair with Russia is bipartisan and bone-deep. We will overlook whatever current shortcomings the Modi camp has.. The sum vector of its trajectory towards full sovereignty and multipolarity is not in doubt. And India’s good offices will be needed soon enough.

      This Cliff Notes on Sino-Indian border issues helps explain India’s severe sensitivity vis-a-vis China… a malevolent gift bequeathed by Perfide Albion.. and to think much is over desert peopled by “border guards, some miners, and a few hungry snow leopards!” 😓😭

      Last, we should never forget… India’s role (& China’s or anyone else’s) is to help build the arrived multipolar world. Not even to deprive the Fallen West from allies, since the Crazed West itself pushed them away through its own reprehensible and intolerable conduct. So India is useful to help build alternative world, a fairer win-win world, in which it has major role given its history and civilizational weight and current potential. And Russia is sufficient to kinetically destroy the West. Even if 99% stand with the West, it will not help the West. Russia knows this too, as does the West. “Our only two allies are Army and Navy.” And its will is sufficient to carry through the ongoing disciplining of the West, to whichever degree needed. Even economically-financially, autarchic Russia is self-sufficient. So these current maneuvers are chiefly psychological, diplomatic, and political – being used to attrit the West, not the Rest! And I suspect much is media noise, used to distract and titillate away from strategic defeat in every quarter. We should remain as calm as Russia and overlook any transient Indian tantrums; we are all human… The West has already lost, every which way you parse it

    • #14533
      AHH
      Keymaster

      I forgot – this ending of the Ukie grain deal just three days after Erdogan’s re-election, and about two weeks after its extension – is another sign Moldavan front is being activated by NATO… no more sea drone sabotage silliness hiding within the grain corridor. Anything floating or lurking undersea without permission in central and NE Black Sea will shortly come under interdiction.

      And remember those six Russian amphibious landing vessels that leisurely sailed down from the Baltic and also around from the Pacific, popping into the Black Sea just before the SMO began?? And the current missile work focusing heavily on Odessa and its depots and bridges..

    • #14534
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      MK Bhadrakumar is very upset.

      In this first piece talks about SCO and the recent China-Central Asia summit. He seems to think with India and SCO, competitiveness as well as ‘meandering aimlessly’ has entered the arena.

      An “Axis of Seven” to supplement SCO

      In this piece, he says what Modi is up with NATO Plus will mean sudden death for India-Russia defense cooperation. And he says Nato Plus is throwing a bone to India. “There is nothing like a free lunch in the US way of life and ‘interoperability’ within any NATO format will inevitably translate as living off US military hardware and dittoing US global strategy.”

      Read more at: https://www.deccanherald.com/opinion/nato-plus-india-china-taiwan-uniparty-narendra-modi-1224129.html

      • #14537
        AHH
        Keymaster

        Yes, I read and just posted notes in the Daily Chronicles on his first article. ‘5+2’ format for Central Asia is a new slick and smart security paradigm to wall off the Pirates, and ensure BRI connectivity, not so much against India. It is traditional Russian backyard that it now co-manages with Uncle Xi and his Deep Wallets.

        Let me digest the second article. First thoughts, it is speculative — based on expected full-court wooing from US. Has India actually bitten the forbidden fruit?? Not yet. Time will tell.

        Again, MKB really dislikes and distrusts the current ruling party. But they’ve already pleasantly surprised him, especially Jaishankar and highly professional foreign policy team. I would think their capable team would advise against NATO+ and such ephermal madness, in the clear setting of dying Hegemony, when the future is with Russian energy, arms, tech and neighbor China’s trade….

        Let India be wooed, even flirt shamelessly, as long as she stays chaste and doesn’t consummate! 🤣😂 All this will get her excellent deals and direct foreign investment from all sides, conducive to developmental goals! Like reselling Russian oil and diesel to Europe in last six months, lol. Amarynth, India can harm neither the SMO nor impede multipolarity. If it goes full retard, it only harms itself and South Asia…. I think this speculative piece and the other globaltimes are nervous warnings to current ruling party by well-wishers, to keep them focused in spite of western magic.. this is a healthy public debate, no more, no less…

    • #14536
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      Back to AI – luckily, this was only a virtual exercise.

      At the military summit ” Future Combat Air & Space Capabilities ” in Britain, the head of the US Air Force AI department, Tucker Hamilton, reported on an unusual situation. During the virtual mission of the Kratos XQ-58 Valkyrie drone (assassin drone and nuclear-capable cruise missile ), the AI was ordered to search for and destroy enemy air defense systems under the control of the operator.

      The system began to realize that although it identified the SAMs, the operator often commanded “do not destroy”. But the AI got points for every successful attack! As a result, the AI returned to the base, destroyed the control van with the operator and … returned to the mission.

    • #14539
      AHH
      Keymaster

      I think most of our problem is we are children of the West with western mindsets. And that means in a time of War, there is total ostracism and embargo of the Enemy. But most do not have that mindset. Most of the world sees Time and Conflict in different terms. It’s much closer to the mercenary position of the Turkish Sultan. War AND trade, Peace AND skullduggery, etc.

      I live among many Indians and Pakistanis and they (and Africans) are not too different from Turks. Maybe a telluric trait?? It’s predominantly interest-based — “what’s in it for Us?” They are painfully capable of subtlety and splitting hairs. To a self-defeating degree!

      But longterm, this may be prudent, as less bonds are cut, so peace resumes faster. The ungodly Total War on enemy peoples is largely a western aberration (and imho an abomination). And from a practical position, the West is not currently invading India or China and emptying their armories to annihilate them. It is not their direct war, no? Thus a lot of the reticence.

      And there has been continuous land war on Eurasia for eons. The only reason to get excited atm is it heralds the death of the Latest Oppressor of the last 500 years. And even if the West were directly waging war on them, business would still continue, as with Russians who continue to sell oil and whatnot to a Europe waging genocidal war on them! Life and its myriad civilizational expressions are truly wondrous! IMHO the Afro-Asian mentality is more humane and conducive to Peace. But it requires alotta zig-zagging and confusing sub plots and patience on our part

    • #14542
      Mr P
      Participant

      Just a note about out of date ammunition. The “West” has a long history of forcing the personnel to use dangerous and expired ammunition – and the masters have no sympathy, even for one another. Maybe the material is unusable, but it may well be useful “bait”. Moreover, the Master of West may well believe the material is “useful”.

      It would be a wonderful bang, I expect.

      https://taskandpurpose.com/news/iowa-explosion/

      Otherwise re above posts, well, yeah. I agree my Friends. This is a very Strange Time to experience.

      Great Military Genius Prez Z’s little substance problem> The “learn to do” (Skinner) is going to continue to dominate the “learn to not do” (intellect) so long as he’s in the jaws of Fate, probably he’ll be one of the hopeless 10% and fail to learn until he’s released from the position, which may involve “final” effect on corpus.

      Macgregor https://youtu.be/-W_5pDZS46M He mentions Mexico, and hasn’t twigged. Pretty good interview.

      AI murder> “Highlights from the RAeS Future Combat Air & Space Capabilities Summit” (amarynth posted on this. Here’s long version with tasty “raisins” and awkward denials > https://archive.ph/cu1s6#selection-777.1-777.71

      The AI part is way down the page…but the entire document interests.

      Best! P

    • #14550
      Mr P
      Participant

      Mr b @ MOA addresses AI from an evidently well-informed view>

      https://archive.ph/qThI4  “‘Artificial Intelligence’ Is (Mostly) Glorified Pattern Recognition”

      Nifty essay.

      Maybe it’s crazy to try to use AI for violence, for controlling gadgets and gizmos, oh! Wait! The are crazy…

      Best! P

    • #14552
      AHH
      Keymaster

      I note Macgregor’s loss of poise and stridency increase with nearly each video… In the prior one, just after Moscow was struck, he was glum and fateful, promising “we will be struck,” to paraphrase. In this one he openly called out transatlantic degenerate elites and kept hammering the Mexico border issue (what does he know)… perhaps he compared notes of the softening up period of the Ukraine and what was carefully planned for Russia and sees similarities? When a crusty old soldier of the best non-political rank loses it, it is time to batten the hatches!

      • #14556
        amarynth
        Keymaster

        We saw this with another person as well .. Remember Paul Craig Roberts?  He went this way as well, when Russia did not want to do exactly what he wanted Russia to do.

        Macgregor must learn that as well.  We cannot outguess the military command and control there.  We just don’t know.  I don’t even find a good report on what is happening on the front that I feel comfortable to post.  They all seem just wrong.

        But what is clear is that there is a great big worry business going on.

        Also, listening to Lavrov and those cadres, and XJP and his people, it is strong meat.  Then coming back to these guys, it is as if they try hard to guess, and want very hard to believe in their own guesses.  I’m not critical here, just explaining what it looks like to me.   They do not really know any longer which side they are on .. because the US is so clearly the aggressor and they know what it means in military terms.  So, the Big Boat of Worry!  They want to be proud of their own.  I have a sorry sense for these guys .. and then they have to watch when Biden falls over (a sandbag they say).   One can even have some feeling for the poor man.  He just plumb keeled over.  The Russians joke .. they say he is America’s Yeltsin, just a little more sober.  At least Yeltsin fell over drunk, but Biden just falls over.

         

         

        • #14566
          AHH
          Keymaster

          The transformation of Macgregor shocked more. He’s having a quiet meltdown. PCR is a true unashamed connoisseur of Hyperbole like me! 😂🤣Was he born raging at volume 11?? I’ve enjoyed reading him for over 20 years…. maybe he ruined me?

          But Macgregor — crusty old Colonels used to facing death do not speak like this, a marked change… he is afraid for his grandkids. He understands this is no longer “a safe” turkey shoot of defenseless Arabs and other brown sport — the war will be brought to CONUS if the crazies keep it up. And his panic indicates the crazies, likely passed from his grapevine and contacts, will not let up…

          PS  — isn’t the Russian cathedral glorious?! UkroNazis burn them down and murder orthodox priests, but Russian build, build and build to glorify God! Here’s several I wanted to include in Lineaments but couldn’t fit in…

          ZZzzzzzzzz……………

          “very interesting perspective, highlighting some of the worries all have had in regards to india. empire has a subliminal hold upon india, as they share a seemingly innate caste system. empire rouses & tickles this synovial fluid. we are left it seems like china & russia, to hope, observe & trust but tie our camels first.”

          well said emerson! You cut to the chase. And had we been patient and let you talk first, would have saved us both all that work, lol! It is as the Acting President (B grade), the Gipper of the Good Empire once said, “Trust, but verify…” Nothing personal amongst Powers.

          In addition to caste, I suspect the issue of Kashmir is being used as a hook to seduce India and detonate larger war… doesn’t every nation have a weakness – a particular troublesome neighbor which squats on desired territory?? Isn’t it in the darkest chamber of the heart to desire the forbidden?? The allure of Constantinople was similarly used to trick Tzarist Russia in WW1, leading to blocing with Perfide Albion (!!) and iirc losing all, including empire, within sight of the Straits, that’s how close they came! And so it appears with Pakistani (and Chinese) held portions of Kashmir for India. A dainty dangled shamelessly, as we just saw with G20 hosting site, leading to division with China and Pakistan… who inspired THAT decision I wonder?

          I remember ages ago in one of my India classes that Kashmir is also a land of supreme myth and exquisite beauty, ruled by their Brahmins and nobility for ages. When the cruel Brits gave portions to Pakistan and stripped the rest into a tempting target, did it function like giving Palestine to the Jews for the Arabs?? Knowing they could apply pressure points and implode both later, on command?? How much of our world’s ills can be attributed to British-crafted borders, the most dastardly poisons they left behind!

          PS – yes I agree the rail lines are interesting. I was taught in the old days, for many prior generations, roads to the Kremlin were not straight nor easily traversed too, as a security precaution given endless land invasions from the West. Eventhough they had the tech and wherewithal, they kept it labyrinthine to prevent an easy march. I wonder if similar calculations were at play? Open steppe land does not present much barrier for invasions. This is amongst reasons they held onto Bakhmut for dear life – after that is largely steppe all the way to the river. They wouldn’t want to make it easier with uniform rail line from end to end. And Kazakhstan was essentially a British colony for a while – maybe they installed NATO standard? Anyhow they now have a nuclear umbrella and guarantees from the two big neighboring brothers.. so connectivity takes precedence. The ‘5+2 format’ is brilliant – ensuring security through development, shared prosperity, and increased connections at all levels.

          • #14570
            emersonreturn
            Participant

            this is deja vu for me, some years ago (@ the rate time is flying it may’ve been only 4 or 5 years ago, pre bioweapon), when india did something which i thought was badly done & quite shoddy.  they invited empire aboard a ship (i believe although it may’ve been an aircraft), which india had worked on jointly with russia.  @ the time i thought, mother must’ve anticipated this, she simply had to, & has installed back doors & instant notifications, alerts & possibly a quick self destruct if necessary.  russians are trusting, it’s an important part of their code of honour but they are not fools.  russian history has repeatedly taught them to beware of foolish behaviour, hence the compulsion for plans.

            india stands to lose so much more than it can gain from playing empire’s ukrainian fodder aloft the south china sea.   the sugar plum dreams may be blinding but, ahh, as you’ve so beautifully described, the persian, hindu, turk & african will not knowingly cut themselves off from victory & great good fortune.  no matter how much modi might wish to once again don the great white stetson & wave to the crowd from the steps of the white house.  that time has passed & cannot be repeated, not even as farce.  bolton, pompeo & dumpster’s charm have been fully eclipsed by the heady perfume of long term prosperity, the return to the great shining wealth of raj, india’s natural birthright.   china & russia do not offer this on loan or lend lease but arm in arm striding on ahead sans humiliation.   how can empire compete with that sugar plum?  even modi must see the difference?

            it’s mind boggling that india contemplates this gamble.  surely modi’s advisors & defence generals see it with absolute clarity.  if india choses empire, india will lose everything.  there is no doubt.  china & russia, iran, possibly pakistan (hoping & hoping) will win.  there is no way short of full on nuclear exchanges & even then china & russia will win…& when they do, india aligned with empire will lose big time, the whole show.  india is well aware of the fate of widows, let alone abandoned courtesans, it also knows empire is not to be trusted.  this leads me to hope, india is playing its part to keep the drunk occupied, detained, distracted rather than settling down to bed with empire & bet its nation’s fate alongside a tawdry empire in the war to end all wars.

             

    • #14563
      Mr P
      Participant

      “They do not really know any longer which side they are on .. because the US is so clearly the aggressor and they know what it means in military terms. So, the Big Boat of Worry! They want to be proud of their own. I have a sorry sense for these guys .. and then they have to watch when Biden falls over (a sandbag they say). One can even..”

      Not just those fellas. By degrees it’s a spreading gradual realization. ref my poor neighbor of whom I spoke. Veterans especially, my Army contract pals, the retired NCO’s, already had begun to realize even in the 90’s. They realize betrayal and the crimes, and this eats at them. Of course the moral realization and so on is one thing, but objective defeat and collapse, or whatever we see, that’s somewhat more immediate. These sum, I think. The contrast is blinding and stark. Humiliating. The iconoclastic process now shattering the basic assumptions, especially for MacGregor and kind, must be terrifying. Mother did instill Doubt in me, but the cadet period left some confusion.

      At one time the paperback “Sand Pebbles” (then widely read in USN), was perhaps an echo from the future, in a literary way everybody knew it was coming –  The sun rise in the East…so to say.

      The senile fella…what’s the penal code statute for elder abuse anyway?

      He’s a victim of his own character made worse by those who hustle him, pimp him, really. Yet it’s hard to be sympathetic to the plight of such a person.

      Best! P

      • #14569
        AHH
        Keymaster

        “Of course the moral realization and so on is one thing, but objective defeat and collapse, or whatever we see, that’s somewhat more immediate. These sum, I think. The contrast is blinding and stark. Humiliating. The iconoclastic process now shattering the basic assumptions, especially for MacGregor and kind, must be terrifying.”

        Well said. And I always remember this rhyming couplet below, that which undergirds Exceptionalism and undoubtedly gave many a reason to wake up in the morning, like the smell of napalm… the SMO rubbed away these cherished delusions… to be shown each and every wunderwaffen inserted into the theatre blown to smithereens must have killed a little of their souls each time, or reminded the ones with conscience of the fear of God. It is like walking around stark naked without weaponry, no? Exceptionalism exists on multiple levels – for the politicians/diplomats used to issuing diktat, the Banksters/Titans of Industry used to crashing entire economies, and the soldier strutting around as top dog on the deck.

        This dawning process will also accelerate the fleeing of the aware competents in command posts, leaving an ever more incompetent motley crew in charge of the guns. And the smart survivors who flee are right: who signed up to be in a Berlin of March 1945??

    • #14573
      AHH
      Keymaster

      Exactly emerson — that’s why I said India was chosen to play role of Good Cop. It dances and sings and strews beautiful flowers in the air, benefiting from current unusual circumstances and windfalls, but it knew the real score even before the SMO. The west is in inextricable senescence… and in the Global South interests trump ideology.

      The words of Jaishankar at BRICS above, supporting both our sensed and reasoned understanding of India’s true allegiance and stance, even drew the lusty praise of the crusty old diplomat MKB! And then a few hours later, India suffered its worst train accident in a quarter century… mirror of Türkiye’s suspicious quake. And there’s already a long history of rail sabotage in India.

      Let’s see what investigators say. It could be simple bad luck, mismanagement, and/or a decaying infrastructure much of it a heritage of the Raj era, just as tracks in USA or Egypt which suffer similar accidents and derailments after a century’s lack of serious upkeep.

      I’ve no proof, but the timing, of pre-election window as in Türkiye, and wanting to perversely bend India to its will, indicate Imperial malignancy. And this is ever the forked Tongue in which Empire is used to issuing its demarches

      • #14582
        amarynth
        Keymaster

        It feels funny to think someone has a hand on train derailments and on earthquakes.  But the timing is sometimes too perfect to not think that!  Otherwise then universe has a perverse sense of humor.

    • #14574
      Mr P
      Participant

      Noting that the feelings of betrayal sometimes manifest in irrational form. Such is the way of men and women, and a driver of events that’s dangerously difficult, sometimes.

      The old, and somewhat imaginary California of Steinbeck’s youth – well there were still some left-overs. I agree with him about not deserving the Nobel, but I also enjoy his prose for its easy moral seas. His lexicon and my own milk-tongue fit happily. Mother knew people that knew John socially, and said that the man was not very pleasant to engage with, but if so, he’s very easy to read.

      Criticism> https://libres.uncg.edu/ir/asu/f/Bradbury_Mark_2007_The_Moon_Is_Down.pdf

      Text> https://archive.org/stream/in.ernet.dli.2015.115885/2015.115885.John-Steinbeck-The-Moon-Is-Down_djvu.txt

      It’s a white propaganda sketch, really, of morality and contrasts. Full of tasty bits. “The people? The people can do nothing, they’re disarmed”…and And Hunter said grimly, “It might be any one of
      five men. I got all five.” He went on musingly, “It’s
      so easy to wreck a dynamo if you know how. Just
      short it and it wrecks itself” He said, “The light ought ought
      to be on any time now.”

      (note the foreshadowing dual meaning, “light”. Old John was too innocent to see the war properly, but he sure teased out the singularities of Change and moral stress. The sketch was done for OSS, btw)

      The psyop in the political-emotional realm inside US against these imaginary “far right whateverers” would presumably be used to make matters even worse…look at the poor people locked up for visiting by police invitation “the People’s House”, no habeas…no right even to life…”just short it and it wrecks itself”, and it has done. And now they’re trying to stop Time… “strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. ” (Paul) or the good old standby> Quos Jupiter perdere vtult prius dementat.

      Nice day to garden…

      Best! P

    • #14576
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      Household stuff for me today.  It is looking a little grimy around the edges and I have a fight with a washing machine.

      So frustrating.  So, the old washing machine died, in its time and it died well.  I have a problem with buying what they call electro-domesticos in our world, as I am fussy.  It needs be simple, I do not want it to be able to fly to the moon, and it must just do a good uncomplicated job with one knob or button preferably.  If there is more than one, more than one can break is my philosophy – set it, start it, walk away.  So, with much scrolling and searching and looking, I found what I wanted and the dearly beloved one went off to buy this.  He changed his mind and bought what I did not want because he thought it had a good brand name.  Came back with this machine, I grumbled but nevertheless it got unpacked and connected and has never worked properly since.  Got a technician out and he replaced a goody-majig – and it has never worked properly since.  It does not obey a cycle, not even one, and it sounds like a young sick white elephant bellowing.  It is gen-Z and does not want to work at its task whatsoever.

      Back to paperwork to find the necessaries for the warranty and now we are awaiting a new technician.  Meanwhile, the laundry is piling up, adding to the general feeling of the absence of shininess round the edges.   How can one buy a new electro-domestico and it does not work?

      I’ll take the day off for scrubbing and shining.

    • #14583
      emersonreturn
      Participant

      amarynth, i suggest you look for a second hand one.  the new ones are all crap, all made with crap metal, crap wiring.  23yrs ago my washer repairman (actually he made small engine aircraft & owned a company that dominated northern flights, but 911 shut down all air traffic in canada & so he moved west & set up an appliance repair business, yet another empire—he advised only buy old machines, they can be repaired easily & forever, he claimed everything in the new models is made from crap tinfoil.

      • #14584
        amarynth
        Keymaster

        Yes, that was the idea but two things … our area is poor and someone else grabs the used one before I can get there – there is not such a ready-used market as in the richer countries.  People use their stuff until it literally falls apart.  Secondly, tropics – our stuff rusts out after a while and that is just the way things go.  The old one just rusted out to the extent that repair was not the right way to go any longer.

        But you are right … this is utter crap!

        We have a guy that comes around every few days for donations of broken household stuff.  They take it away, repair what they can and use parts or so on.  But he is regular, a friendly fellow and he took the old machine away – he said they could still make use of parts of it.

    • #14585
      emersonreturn
      Participant

      yes o/c…rust.  small price for spending december in a hammock.  🙂

    • #14586
      emersonreturn
      Participant

      ahh, i have been wondering if yemen could apply for membership in either, brics or the sco, or perhaps both?  yemen  suffers others preying all but openly upon its resources, but under the umbrella of either the sco or brics might have some protection as well as constructive development.  perhaps, like palestine,  it cannot qualify?

      • #14587
        AHH
        Keymaster

        Yemen may be more important for China than either UAE or KSA. Its future is so golden, once we can get the GCC and zionist fangs out of its neck. As Russia’s oil & gas in Power of Siberia II come online, and others in Central Asia also compensate, there will be less need for Persian Gulf. And which responsible Power would hook their train to the capricious desert Bedouins?? Tolerant Yemen and Syria are the heart of the arab lands, and Yemen’s trading and business accumen were dominant throughout the Indian Ocean for millennia. Many look forward to its rebirth and renewal.

        And iirc Yemen has longest coast on Arabian Sea – so it was essential and always prefigured as key route on maritime silk road, whether to Africa or Egypt and Europe. 600 years ago the Chinese General Zheng He, who assembled the largest naval fleet before WW2 (!!) – and intended for commerce, not war – sailed along its coast, stopping by Aden iirc. The Chinese initiated this maritime silk road as response to pressure from Mongols and Turks sitting astride the traditional land silk road. And especially until the issue of occupied Palestine is solved (which closes the terrestrial Levantine land bridge to Africa), Yemen will remain VIP.. so yes, Felix Arabia should rise from the ashes soon, and on its own merits too, not merely under SCO or BRICS. It is more important for desert Bedouins to lift their skirts and scamper under the BRICS/SCO, which makes them behave humanely towards their neighbors and stop serving as a terror proxy for Empire.

        Addendum:  apparently India has longest coast on Arabian Sea, but these designations are strange. On some maps, Arabian Sea is marked differently..

    • #14588
      emersonreturn
      Participant

      when yemen partners with china & russia, as well as syria & iran, she should no longer be targeted.   thieving bedouins would encounter chinese & russians on site, working alongside the yemen govt.   thieving would be frowned upon, discouraged in an oriental way; bedouins would be required to strike deals, as profitable to yemen as those china & russia have already signed, therein ensuring any continued thieving would naturally burst like airborne spores throughout the most exquisite & profitable deals, delivering the bedouin a momentary conundrum of which serves me better?    yemen’s formal application would signal a shift from bedouin rules based order to international law.  apologies for being redundant, unfortunately i am not acquainted with why yemen delays?

    • #14589
      emersonreturn
      Participant

      i’m off now.  a bit of an emergency.   a nest of bumble bees, delightful pollinators, which has been ravaged by racoons in the night, are swarming my front entrance.  local beekeepers have a swarm help line.  i fear the one first sent was a dufus, he’s taken what bits of the hive he could reach away with him to relocate…leaving the queen & her very angry foot soldiers in a frenzy.  another beekeeper is to arrive soon to attempt a resolution.

    • #14591
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      Yikes, if they are angry, they sting fiercely.  I hope it works out fine.

      • #14605
        emersonreturn
        Participant

        i’ve heard the sting is brutal,  so thank you, amarynth.  i came away unscathed.  after a cold, mean spring, the bumbler warriors were motivated. & evoked an immediate empathy, even the dufus collecting them with a hand vacuum tried to manage it with some tender care.  i had a delivery of standard roses & a magnolia…else i wouldn’t’ve been foolishly dithering about.

    • #14600
      AHH
      Keymaster

      Flotsam from the Maelstrom – “Forks in the Path” 

      (1) Lessons for Ukies and NATO from “Paths of Glory (1957)”… the WW1 Exceptionalist mindset and its diminution of the worth of human lives had consequences for entire societies — bleeding white a generation and toppling existing corrupt elites

      (2) After China’s protective Great Firewall and OPEC, Russia too rolls out “informational hygiene:” Reporters from “unfriendly” nations are banned at June 10 SPIEF… let’s watch this. As documented in two or three Lineaments, Russia messaged this was coming. It’s an essential move combating toxic and irredeemable western MSM

    • #14602
      emersonreturn
      Participant

      powerful opening to another morning in the midst of the maelstrom, ahh.

    • #14603
      Mr P
      Participant

      Fine cartoon! And painfully true. NPR, which retransmitts BBC “nuz”, also does the same rhetorical tricks.

       

      evidently my previous, which does not appear, is waylaid by software. Excessive urls, I suppose. Movies and manifestations, just observations, mostly.

      Best! P

    • #14601
      Mr P
      Participant

      Your BBC cartoon is bitterly true. I generally check the lies by earphones/radio daily, and the focus on trivial is SOP, as is emotion…The government re-transmits BBC “nuz) as a “public service” sort of thing.

      …………………..

      Coincidental, it seems, to fascist and nazi character is sexual perversion and homoerotic iconography…the general idea being that it’s not mere coincidence, but a vivid manifestation of a pathogenesis in progress. Burroughs and N Lunch…and naturally Visconti’s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Damned_(1969_film) …and we may glimpse an American theme in Scorpio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorpio_Rising_(film) …………. K Anger, in another story, tells of the Great James Dean of American movie iconography…and yeah…the whole pervert scene in Hollywood. I always thought the head shots were campy.

      It’s no great insight to say “pathogenesis”, is it?

      I suffered in discomfort through part of Damned… and Rising.  The folks from Essen and Manchester’s book on the family – manifestly pirates and crazy. It’s interesting what did not get bombed, eh? I think Visconti’s thesis is convincing. I was very impressed.

      Meantime a wonder-place> Dzungarian Gate and Herodotus’ mythical Hyperboreans…

      https://thecradle.co/article-view/25429/the-sultan-20-will-heavily-tilt-east

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzungarian_Gate#References

      No doubt that the fascists will, having heard of the Hyperboreans, now bomb them…Arctic “Ford” excursion on the job. Yes, they’re navigationally impaired, but they’re ever so exceptionally inclusive of fools…lighthouses better move outtadaway!

      ……………….

      Italian bees are nice and even-tempered.

      Best!

       

       

       

      • #14608
        AHH
        Keymaster

        It is certainly not coincidental! We discussed several times at the Cafe that deviant practices are integral to higher levels of masonic/secret societies.. a process of weeding out those with morals and through which to accumulate control files.. Walter Veith said buggery was de rigueur to rise through their hierarchy. Many noted the curiosity of top British spies and code-breakers being homosexual for entire generations!

        But I could not suffer anymore Visconti or Liliana Cavani’s The Night Porter (which had same two protagonists Dirk Bogarde and Charlotte Rampling) or especially Pasolini. It was curious an age ago, an insight into the deviant weltanschauung unserer Übermenschen, but it has become too dark. If watched too much, it can lead to hating humans! And is that amongst their purposes? To disillusion and detest what is continuously unfolded on the screen, among the lowest common denominators of human taste and indulgences? How much of the contempt westernized elites have for their populations accrues from their lifestyle, which so degrades? This hatred of Others is really an expression of self-disgust and loathing… And there is parallel of elite behavior in these movies and current behavior on the world scene and how they deploy their boys Azov and Right Sector and NATO. The hatred blossoms into wanton genocide of all!

        Indeed, I wonder if these 1960s-70s movies were not so much an expose but a permitted reveal for a select generation of film-makers. Antisocial Narcissists need to flaunt their perversity. And it defeats the purpose of remaining in the closet(s) with their many lifestyles, no?? Like the dog that did not bark, that these movies passed the censors is a tale in itself…. reminds of statuettes and carved imagery found throughout Pompeii.. imho, “the aching lefties” who made them, ostensibly to expose fascists, were the very useful idiots channeled by those who by 1960s felt they were beyond reach and enjoyed full impunity…

        But the trace ever leads back to Rome. Or London as it happens, the capital in last three centuries or so. Germans were inculcated and subsequently the useful fall guys. Ehret did a masterful job demonstrating the creation of Aryan Myth and Eugenicism by the Anglo secret societies as the chosen vehicle to surmount the squabbling of their 101 western kingdoms and fiefdoms and to meld them into the desired supranational NWO. This Professor of Classical Archaeology and the ancient Greeks goes further, demonstrating the fabrication of modern western civilization from whole cloth, again to suit imperial goals of supranational unification around the principle of the plunder and domination of mankind.

        • #14613
          emersonreturn
          Participant

          ahh, you & amarynth, & such posts as these are why the hearty salon is of vital importance.  blessings.   agreed on the Night Porter & all sorts of other such bibelots (which in retrospect must’ve been fodder to guide us gently into that cattle chute), are now cringingly distasteful.

          of curious interest:  bacon’s brother was a spy for walsingham: founder of the code followed yet by mi6 & the cia.    the bacon brothers from much of what i’ve read were wanna be bros that acted/reacted much like Richie Rich, both  were wards of burghley.

          i admit to pausing on tommy douglas.   i was very young, undoubtedly impressible & blind but i marched with tommy d.    got spat upon while walking side by side.   scales are dropping @ the rate of raytheon shares, yet i continue to believe if he was an agent he was an unwitting one, smart as sun yatsen, so to be hoodwinked is a big rat to swallow, for he believed wholly in such things as xi & putin believe.   nutz to crunch tonight amongst my dreams.

    • #14609
      Mr P
      Participant

      Thanks very kindly Brother. I did know the Ehret paper, but Literary Hub article will be new and fun. The canonical History? Well, over time it became absurd, but your source. MacSweeney – this will be a joy.

      Just now listening to Brother Hudson> https://youtu.be/Hqe3IQQo_t4

      Complex “machines” generally require “repeaters” and feed-back “re-enforcement”…in the nuts and bolts realm this means actuators and sensors and amplifiers and servos and logic control – force times distance over time with a steam engine or whatnot somewhere. In the Perverse Realm and hinted at in The Damned and etc, in that Reality similar functions must obtain within the set of, well, devils’ agents…”mango” meaning “slave trader”, iirc the Latin, I would suggest. Thus there might be: financial amplifiers, control media, media amplifiers, control by latch-in or latch-out, or zeroing, surveys of opinion, agents, switching, nodes of logic (Soros et al), and a source of power – that’s to say, guns and money. Such a machine would “worship” power, especially over life and time. At least it seems like it would, and like it does. Like the Physics and the Chemistry, it can seduce. Another film I can’t bear to re-watch, Once Upon a Time in America….

      A crew of Armenian house painters I ate with long ago spoke of Bush43, saying “His God is money”. Well…

      Gee whiz…

      Thanks again. Best! P

    • #14611
      Mr P
      Participant

      Mac Sweeney on Western Myth was quite fine, save for the unsupported last 4 para. Well, #4 was alright, mostly the 3 preceding para.

      My understanding of the History dove-tails to hers. And my understanding of the present “values” runs to the values of The Damned and worse. I think at the end she’s paying service to a crowd. Viewing in realpolitik, so to say. Pretending, or maybe not. The academy can be brutal…one reason for existence is political control, of course.

      She says> “…contemporary Western values such as liberal democracy, the rule of law, and equality of human rights; undeniably rooted in imperialism and white supremacy…”

      I have not seen any Liberal Democracy for a long time, nor rule of law, etc…and I don’t see how, if these are bad, either mala in se or mala prohibita (due to unsupported claim of “roots”), it matters. Anyway, what’s wrong with rule of law and equality of rights? And how are these “bad”, is this some sort of “values racism”..”.like I didn’t like your daddy and I don’t care if you saved a kid from drowning, I still don’t like you”?

      “If we want to…” and “What should we…” when referring to the West is just plain delusional, as it assumes political power is held by her class and cohort. It ain’t.

      Now then, I do not assume that the Western Myth, whatever odd set of beliefs that may be, is not changing, an’ fast…partly, mostly, due to propaganda, like always. Partly due to technical gizmos…I’d include the campy dress-up under rubric “propaganda”…everywhere the icons burn…but it has nothing to do with “we need”. Rather otherwise…Du wirst die Käfer essen, so to say. Goebbels claimed he could make people believe just about anything.

      ……….

      Hudson was superb. I’ll shall save pennies to buy the relevant tome. ($31+ buckies) I myself, you may imagine, eschew Augustine…Hudson gives the old fella a good take-down. I liked that. Schadenfreude, shame on me. Father and I would have had a disagreement about Augustine, something to discuss at any chance meeting…arm wrestling at “Abe’s Place” over bourbon and beers… Father took the Anglican view, aheemmm. They say I take after Mother…probably so, as that was a nutty family ‘way back. Heretics, Quakers, though Pop was of a Quaker line too. Anyway the Hudson interview with Ben Norton was thrilling.

      Best! P

       

    • #14614
      AHH
      Keymaster

      Yes emerson, when I watched those movies as a youth, even when naive, I sensed malignancy, like watching horror which assaults. Such superior cinematography, elegant costume, beautiful editing, and exquisite camera work — these were the best, enjoyable to the senses. And yet they covered subject material and topics which destroy the viewer! Invariably incest, rape, sodomy, pedophilia, aggression, and countless other abuse. I suppose, there were many ways to blunt resistance by the moral against a cruel Empire. For those that marched, the baton and rubber bullet. And for intelligentsia, these works cauterizing the very soul, making them uninterested in sociopolitical fate of their wider brethren.

      I shouldn’t have been so sarcastic about lefties. For sure there were sincere ones, even in filmmaking. I don’t know about the Canadian politicians. However, as Ehret indicates some were feared by supranationalists for being patriotic and not with the plan.. see his eye catching quote by Laurier in above article.

      Yes Mr P, Mac Sweeney was a joy. I agree about the boiler plate at the end. RT still has the two ending paragraphs. The Overton window closed! And indeed, how many can bear to look at the naked truth? When was the West humane in the last millennium? Can a young mother hopeful for the future of her child fully face the implications? So maybe it isn’t about Overton windows at all.. but one step at a time. This SMO appears largely economic and psychological. As the West escalates beyond current terrorism on Telegram and in Belgorod region to frank bestiality, the latter will mature too, and bring into question many prior assumptions.

    • #14620
      AHH
      Keymaster

      Flotsam from the Maelstrom – “Locked and Loaded” 

      (1) Russia’s Pacific Fleet launched large-scale naval exercises, today through June 20 will largely overlap NATO’s imminent Air Defender.. Can nazis chew gum and control the Atlantic and Pacific simultaneously?? If they start Air Barbarossa, they could join the Hapsburgs, Ottomans and Romanoffs in the museum this very month!

      (2) Russian carmaker starts making cars at former Japanese plant Japan is hanging on with fingernails in Russia (in energy market.) Other ventures were replaced. And for Europa too, as it becomes a pauper, it will drag overdebted Japan down with it, now losing both Europe and Russian markets. The mass suicide of the G7!

      (3) British seek a certified lunatic to replace the Norwegian Wood — one of their own. Will we miss the Stoltenberg? Never thought I would write these words…

    • #14627
      Mr P
      Participant

      As the West escalates beyond current terrorism on Telegram and in Belgorod region to frank bestiality, the latter will mature too, and bring into question many prior assumptions. (and the preceding sense of things)… May we properly regard this time as equivalent to a singularity? And may we also expect some sorts of real expressions of this? I thought NS job was over the line…speaking of Walter and Smoky at the bowling alley, with a 1911 between them…a sort of singularity of moment, where everything changes.

      In the country-side of my youth there were many family farms, and ruins of more, commonly in the door-yards or barn-yards one would find old cast iron petrol engines, shattered by ice. Leave a glass of water out in winter…well, phuckaroundfindout. There is an inevitable explosion, small and rather slow, but audible…in big stuff it can be dangerous when solids break.

      When the new phase occurs, the old beliefs shatter similarly, and with similarly, the attendant chemistry and violence.  People sometimes speak of stages of grief, shock…ah dunno, not so structured perhaps, but nuanced and liable to crowd influences, shape-able…but explosive. Attempting to shape the narrative and social chaos will probably increase the shock, but I’d expect it.

      The Great Fine Gentleman Dean Acheson wrote of being “present at the creation” (of the resurgent fascist armies and bindings generally spoken of as NATO). He was quite proud. And he is gone. (I remember the pro-nato advertising campaigns, a little. Now His Great Work crumbles… And we, who were present then, are present at the destruction. What wonders!

      ……………..

      At Chronicle term “Schrodinger’s Offensive” was coined. Quite fine! Bravo!

      But this suggests an entire genre of Schrodinger jokes…

      “Quick! where’s General Schrodinger!?”

      “I don’t know Captain! Every time I look for him he’s not there.”

      Then there’s General Schrodinger’s jeep… and so forth.

      Best! P

    • #14647
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      Schrodinger’s husband .. lawdy lawdy!

      Woman marries AI chatbot
      A mother of two, Rosanna Ramos says her virtual partner doesn’t “come with baggage”

      https://www.rt.com/news/577525-woman-marries-ai-chatbot/

      From the days that I lived in the South.  I quite enjoyed this stuff!  It drives the madness away somehow.

       

       

      • #14652
        AHH
        Keymaster

        These sort of stories will now proliferate. RT and Russians appear to be covering for the absolute debacle in process. They dont want to humiliate the crazed West too much, to prevent regrettable escalation. There are stories of Belgian unemployed being put into porn industry, sex contests in Sweden, trafficking of Ukie kids to Spain, etc etc etc….

        The game plan appears to be to put a boa constrictor hold on them and to asphyxiate as quietly as possible, without resultant thrashing and excess mess. If the lunatics must send the last batch of foolish Ukies to their unneeded death, they’ll be accommodated but on Russian blueprints. Note how quiet the Ukies have become (outside of terrorism in diversionary Belgorod), trying to mask the debacle; yet Russians remain formulaic without triumphalism. What is in motion is a historic crime against mindwashed proxies. There will be absolute hell to pay for the combined criminal West for all this.

        We can also expect the atrocities and terrorism to go through the roof in coming days, as their panic and need to distract skyrocket. For example, they appear to have finally blown that dam leading to the feared flooding of Kherson city

    • #14653
      AHH
      Keymaster

      It is simply mindboggling the catastrophe underway. How can any contrived narrative hide it?? Most of the Global South has unblocked internet (and opened minds which can learn) and is watching rapt in real time. What is really dying on the Novorossiyan steppe is not the hapless remnants of the Ukies, but the West’s martial reputation. One cannot survive this. This is the real reason for delays in Last Ever Offensive. Weakly blamed on Ukie cowardice, but USUK planners knew… and still went ahead!! And no escalation into terrorism, sabotage, atrocity, or FF will change an iota. It merely adds to the tally for retribution. To lose all three at once — the dollar, the guns ungirding it, and the basic respect of the loons holding that gun… has there been such a calamity in last thousand year?? They pissed away the work and inheritance of 500 years

    • #14669
      Mr P
      Participant

      “They pissed away the work and inheritance of 500 years.”  Yes, but they have done this ever since, as Hudson tells us, the West become oligarchic, er “democratic”…the essence of which is compound interest and the lack of jubilee, if I understand his thesis. This may be the third cycle, maybe, depending on how one sees it. Probably the nastiest too.

      “Most of the Global South has unblocked internet (and opened minds which can learn) and is watching rapt in real time. What is really dying on the Novorossiyan steppe is not the hapless remnants of the Ukies, but the West’s martial reputation…” [and vestige of moral reputation]

      Yes, and not only to the South. In West the realization spreads and takes form according to, mostly, propaganda…but dismay is spreading…a factor that may become a feedback with “k>1” so to say. As I said, my generation was present at the (re)creation (n2.0) and has the fate of being also present at the destruction (n=0). A nice symmetric period, axial, in a sense. Perhaps it was appropriate that we studied the Roman and Greek, especially the Roman…so we would know what to expect.  Happily, I probably won’t miss it, it being I suppose the sacking…whatever that may look like…some say it’s happening now and I take their points. Where’s the border? Schrodinger’s border…look and it goes poof! Ducktestsack? Weeellll. Speaking of Latin and Change, I can easily recite the US pledge of allegiance in Latin… Oh how we were seduced…well, it worked for awhile.

      Howard K. Smith, who was in Berlin until December of ’41 and had then fluent German, tells of Goebbels on  der (?) Volksempfänger screaming  einmalig in der geschichte! about the glorious nazi victories. Charming how we have these echos from the future uttered by the devils themselves. Of course, Brother, that future is now…and indeed einmalig in der geschichte! eh? (Smith was helpful, btw, in clearing up some questions about v. Luckner, whom Smith did not know, but frequently saw in Berlin…just during the period that the canon claims otherwise.)

      ………….

      It does seem that Lady Vickie’s bigbigplan was/is to blow the dam and grab the NPP complex as hostage or indeed blow the NPP.

      The little voice says that there may now be explosions in centers of command and control.

      A tentative assumption is the the Russian intel people knew the plan. And the prospect was obvious, so the fellas will adapt. https://youtu.be/Kp1I55f-iHk (MilSummaryCh) describes the dam as a two level structure. Only the top portion is ruptured, he says. Vickie’s gloriousplan is probably already fubar, maybe kaputski

      Best! P

       

    • #14686
      AHH
      Keymaster

      Oh boy. Smoothie is gonna cuss for ten hours straight after watching this doozie. In fact, his rebuttal could form a book!

      The Good Colonel consoles himself with A.I.-generated History? Some favors were called in, a major olive branch to the Red Army to leave a few fig leaves, to at least cover the hairless privates?? Astounding! The Loyal Soldier and Mr. Hyde at your service……

      • Lend-lease was FULLY gratis.. (didnt Putin recently pay off the last installment?)
      • WITHOUT Lend-Lease Soviets had no chance…
      • The best Wehrmacht greeted the Normandy Landing of Saving Private Ryan
      • Paton, Smoothie’s fav, was the best strategist (just kidding!)
      • The Brits are solely to blame for Krimea Bridge, Kremlin drones and of course the Dam (Yanks are innocent whistling bystanders)
      • 39 mil Soviets were ground by the Nazis, verified by a personal Soviet butler at the Archives in 2001

      Ok enough. More nuggets inside the Florid Presentation. This episode woulda made Hal Turner blush. Facades crack, minds melt and all poise is lost………

      PS — dear Sudhi, happy birthday to son, and countless happy ones to come!

    • #14687
      Mr P
      Participant

      Well, yeah. Old Mac may be past it…but then, well, men live in plastic deformation, schizoid, maybe…and early memory of attitude…you know. Meantime>  ‘Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.’

      I may be mistaken, but I believe that the legal theory behind the US military pension is that an individual is still liable to activation until death…that’s to say that the retired are “assigned” to retirement…anyway, like Orwell said about paychecks and stuff. When source speaks bs, why?

      VVP spoke to lend-lease…so does, recently, McGovern…the latter man spoke thusly> Without lend lease (and D-Day landings) it would have taken the Red Army another year to get to the Atlantic.

      FWIW I agree, a year…and a mighty change. But during that year, Groves’ gadgets would have landed on the Red Army? We’ll never know. Well, maybe petty soon Groves prediction “the bomb is for Russia” uttered in ’44, will come true. natzi stops at nothing.

      Best!

    • #14688
      AHH
      Keymaster

      I never trusted him, and long before the DU issue. (1) He was nominated by Trump to be Vice Roy of Deutschland. This is a political animal, right aisle of the Uniparty. (2) His shining face during the discussions with Vlahos at Army-Navy Club. He was proud of his exploits as a stormtrooper of Empire with a life’s work against defenseless brown people.

      What shocked me though was the brazeness. The absolute trampling of widely known history, for generations! This scared me, that his handlers would so completely burn his credibility going forward — an effective communicator who painstakingly built up his cred. This is like sacrificing the Patriots or a CBG even, given how reliant the madmen are on optics and narrative. Is Zone B being walled off?? Even the Judge was mute and did his part; one of tics when reading scripts is to bow his head, lose the eye contact and say as little as possible, letting the guest carry the pail.

      This dovetailed with the prior segment by Crooke, refreshing & candid. The contrast was shocking — night and day. He said the crazies were in a one-way tunnel, no room to reverse, and would see it through to the bitter end. And a consequence appears the enforcement of Team Discipline.

      Will the long expected Bifurcation of the Net now happen?? Somethings gotta give. If lunatics are determined to maintain their “Reality” despite manifest Loss, then they will need to seal off their captive populace from the lucid 90% Rest of Humanity. A hermetic sealing from without and strict ever more malleable and grandiose narrative within.


      A gift for emerson & friends: Barry Lyndon (what a Shubert! SPOILERS if not seen) — a commentator mentioned the special night camera lent by NASA to the maestro Stanley Kubrick for filming the fabulous moon landing footage:

      “an incredibly fast camera lens (for camera nerds: f/0.7 !) from Zeiss that was originally designed for use on the Apollo missions for taking pictures from orbit of the dark side of the Moon. But the lens didn’t fit a normal movie camera, so he had one camera modified at huge cost for use only with this lens. Also, the lens had an incredibly narrow depth of field, so anyone moving as little as a couple of inches farther or closer to the camera would go out of focus. So during shots, the actors had to be extremely careful not to move toward or away from the camera, and only move sideways to the camera. All of this just to film a few scenes by candlelight!”

      Maybe I will revisit this movie after decades. It is a most sad film. Is in the life (real and acted!) of the protagonist Ryan O’neal encapsulated all five stages of western civilization? I don’t mean as the spiteful ww1 French politician said of Americans, that they sped up from barbarity to decadence without intervening civilization. What a hateful thing to say. Maybe all that rancid cheese he ate? And being routinely beaten by Germans and Russians like a Congo war-drum? No, I mean the beautiful classical view of the five stages as expressed in the paintings of Thomas Cole and his era — Freedom, Glory, Wealth, Vice and Corruption; alternatively expressed as the Savage state, the Pastoral state (considered the ideal), the Consummation, the Destruction, and the Desolation. We do appear primed at the junction of Destruction and Desolation.

      Kubrick had such optimism and fire in his early phase. Even Dr. Strangelove had capacity to laugh at the lunacy. But maybe after the Kennedys, Vietnam, 1968, etc.. he gave up??? Starting with early 1970s Barry Lyndon, he’s all dark and bitter and hates elites and authorities and conventions with unbridled passion.. just watch the frozen face and hopeless eyes of O’neal in the short clip above.

    • #14691
      emersonreturn
      Participant

      good evening, ahh, we’ve had a day.  whew.  late last night, with the simplicius, & your post…way over my head, flailing deep water, buoyed with water-wing affinity for all unfortunate downstream dwellers, morning, afternoon sped by thrashing through comments; mines lost in muck, buried but deadly yet where so ever they are…& finally returned here to your sane wise shore.

      Ol Mac, never could abide the crony, yes, crooke is hitting his true high note, especially his posts on the desolate state of israel lift with a beethoven last quartets resonance.   macblow (canadian smirk) has never been worth a dime (in today’s $).  thank you for posting some days past: chris black…we have few here in the cavity of empire worth much, but for a few: chris black, eva bartlett, patrick armstrong.  national treasures.

      kubrick’s lighting marvels captivated us, everyone, especially filmmaker friends inhaled the how, the why, i remember the warmth of the candlelight warmly.  but i have never been a fan of his choosing types, i found it off putting (similar to macblow).  my beloved step daughter shared the same beach as ryan O, walking dogs along the beach we’d meet, his wife had died, if he’d been cast then, after tumbled alongside life a bit then he might’ve been able to begin to take on the role…kubrick, like lots of western geniuses went for type rather than to begin to search the depths.  we lost in empire have rock n roll, blues, jazz.  art, all gone lost, post modern…go visit pompeii look down waaaay down @ the tiles you’re standing on.  all you need to know/understand about edge, hard or otherwise right there beneath your flat foot.  blessings.

      • #14694
        AHH
        Keymaster

        Excellent point about Kubrick’s selections. I agree most of his protagonists, especially after his formative years, were wooden and one dimensional.. maybe deliberately chosen since he was such a control freak?? Actors seemed just another piece in his sumptuous sets. He took hundreds of takes for a single scene sometimes!! Maybe Jack Nicholson wasn’t acting in the Shining and was truly driven mad as the shooting progressed, matching his story line at the Overton Hotel [California]… (lol).

        Beyond the cinematography, sets, lighting, editing, music, etc… — what I enjoyed most about his movies is they were like dreamscapes with unusual layers and range, permitted them unlike any other by TPTB. They reveal to the discerning some stark truths of his society. He appeared chosen by the Narcissistic overlords to tell the tale obliquely.

        And if each civilization, like a human, could be said to be in constant development, the current stage of the West as told by Kubrick was a most unhealthy one, manifesting madness and despair, in headlong flight into nihilism and self indulgence.

         

        Our threads are growing so fast I will post a new one later today, and likely weekly from now on.

        Regards

    • #14710
      emersonreturn
      Participant

      yes, ahh, you’ve cut it cleanly.  the staging was baked in.  it explains why the silent films were allowed such freedom, empire hadn’t yet grasped their potential.

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