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    • #53364
      DestinationUnkown
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      Yet everything I believe, think and do is filtered through this unconscious “entity” (of me).  Chances are, that everything I feel is also an unconscious preference.

      Life is filtered through this confidence in my “self-knowledge”.  Perhaps it is as it should be, but whatever I justify to be my self-values, will be how I believe, think, and act.  I will attempt to enforce these views upon all those around me, and judge everything and everyone accordingly.

      It is impossible to know yourself in the abstract, in isolation.

      For every behavior that you identify, there will be a justification, explaining why it can be no-other-way.  A list of these parameters could be called “benchmarks”, with or without judgements upon them.  You decide what has value for you. These benchmarks are only neutral tools by which to judge your own actions. Still, I believe it is a very difficult proposition. We see these traits in the world, and we may deny them in ourselves. I will make a list and put them in a “time-slot”, which I will tell you about below. (The list could go on, and become very long.)  But this gets it going.

      behavioral benchmarks

      As far as we can determine, most of these basic psychological motivations are universal to mankind.  Everyone in the world has fears, insecurity, conclusions, judgements, struggle and dissatisfaction. Also, the positive side.  Above, are identifiable many dozens of these similar parameters. Of course, everything OCCURS in the present tense, the only place where movement is possible.  But you can visualize a focus, (it’s more active in), or an origin of each thought and emotion toward the past tense, or the present or the future. This is just my arbitrary expedient which might help in narrowing down the list.

      What we see and dislike in the world situation, how nations react with each other, might be what we have hidden within ourselves.  We might find them in our own mentality; if we choose to look.  Society is constructed by men, and so it is a reflection of their collective mental states.

      How can the time qualifications help to organize? For instance; worry, hope and fear are all focused on the unknown in the future.  For me, I find it possible to reign-in thinking; so that wandering in future, what-if suppositions is minimal.  Therefore, I have very little-or-no worry, no hopefulness nor fears.  I have defined it that I will meet all those possibilities, if and when they occur, in the then-to-be present. I am trusting myself to be spontaneous, and handle what I meet each day, as it happens (tomorrow).  That comes from years of spontaneous actions, that have always seemed to work out for the best.

      You could also say that the conclusions that have built my judgements my logic systems, and my rationality, were all collected from past experiences. Therefore, all my choices for behavior have an origin from the past. Some of those parameters are not so active now, so I have categorized them as past thinking. For instance, I don’t engage in gilt, grief or regret. Some other ones that may or may not be active, I have shown in present-day challenge/opportunities.  It’s something to investigate.  True, many of these guidelines could be active in more than one, or in all these time concepts, it’s arbitrary.

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      What makes you and I different is how we handle each of these traits.  We have all been conditioned by past beliefs.  I might say that beliefs could be obvious when looking at the other’s behavior, but rather obscure when searching our own.  Our state of reactiveness is the direct outcome of our adopted world-view. Much of it is our decision about what we are willing to accept, and what we are NOT willing to accept in our relations to others, or how we blame them.  Those people that are full of personal prohibitions and blame, are very emotional, very reactive. People have said that it is impossible to “get-inside-someone-else’s-head”.  But really, it is spilling out in all their movements.  There are no secrets, and it is all reflected in the world at large.

      We say that, I can have no effect on the world at large, so don’t even try.  Perhaps the only proactive step when considering the outer situation and current events, is to search within ourselves.  Could we purge something, if we find it?  Why should we carry what we disapprove about the others, within ourselves?

      The “How” is another story, I could talk about it. Most people just take the victim stance, and say that those others, “are doing it to us”. It’s the illegal immigrants, the “bad-governments” of the world, and the axis of evil. If we suppress and dominate all of them, then we will have peace.  It is a very difficult prospect, through all these wars which we intend to wage.

      SO WHERE IS THE AGGRESSION AND CONFLICT IN THE WORLD ACTUALLY COMING FROM?

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    • #53568
      DestinationUnkown
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      I just took a look at all of my Global South posts starting in October 2024.  They all lead up to this one, which is the culmination of what I have been saying (Know thyself). It has been an incredible odyssey of discovery in the moment, all triggered from one Global South link, and not from any claimed accumulated “wisdom”.  (It did resonate with my past experience though.)

      It is all based on the premise that global society (all of them) are a perfect reflection of the individual (and collective) consciousness or mind-set held by each of us. Most people vehemently deny that.  Most people claim there is US and THEM, and it’s “THEM” who are victimizing us. WE ARE INNOCENT! Isn’t that what we are doing here, following so intently the news-cycle? That exact belief keeps it true in our life. (Frankly, this mind-set is leaking out of all the cracks, and is obvious to anyone who looks.) The factors that make it invisible are the justifications which I have fabricated; why, I can act in no other way.  They call it T.I.N.A.  It’s reaction, and if we have any proactive program of our own, it is on the back-burner. That said; just by where our time is spent.

      I wrote that; It is impossible to know yourself in the abstract, in isolation.  That is what we are doing here together (bumping into each other), with the opportunity to notice our reactions to each other. Here I have supplied benchmarks of where to observe, I didn’t give them any plus/minus weighting. They are just empty categories .

      I divided them into arbitrary time slots.  Although they are ALL collected in the past, held in memory, acted on in the present, and projected into the future.  I divided them because it is a long list, and difficult to visualize streaming down several pages.  But if they were all packed into paragraphs, you couldn’t separate them. Basically, I wanted a scheme that would come up with three columns, to see them on one page.

      AND IT WORKS

      ✓As I said, in the personal sphere, I have defined the future as important only when it becomes the present. That is, I am confident that I will handle it when it gets here.  (Of course, with greater projects, running a business, or a country, the future plans are important. You can’t improvise for the collective.)  But what that means for my focus; I have no worry nor fear that encroaches on my present time. A huge amount of emotional baggage is dismissed in an instant.  It is a big part of my “freedom”.

      ✓I also have definitions about my list from the past. I clearly see that it is counterproductive toward today, to rob my energy by ruminating over what can’t be changed. SO, I NEVER DO IT. We all lived as best as we knew how, and I am content with that observation. 

      ✓So what is it that “gets me” about my today’s list?  I do not identify strong feeling, (that is emotionalism) with strength and power, (although it may feel like I am more motivated by my irritations). That is a killer belief. So, most of that list is also held as counterproductive to freedom, to clear observation, and to tranquility in engaging with life.

      The only sticklers are fairness, justice and punishment.  Somehow, those people that break the agreed upon behavior, (thou shalt not kill), need to be taken off of the street.  I am meeting violence with violence.  It is a contradiction, and I don’t have any other key to it.  My desire is that the wars will cease, but it seems like it will take a winner and a loser.  (A proxy war usually won’t end by simple negotiations. They are sponsoring it for an objective, and must achieve some of it.  We’ll see what is happening now, but don’t be swept away by false hope.)  Again, it’s the future, I have no hope nor hopelessness in this projection.

      All of these traits are either justified by my world view, my religion, and my spiritual assessment, OR they are negated by these basic philosophies.  All of my reactive behavior, contradiction and conflict, is the result of my detrimental belief system.  (What else is there?)  It is in these beliefs where we have to clean out the stables. (Lots of horseshit to shovel out).

      I have not said how to clean the stables.  But first is to observe the chaos. (Without justifying it.)  The key is in relationship.  We most likely think when we come together, we have to figure-out the other guy.  Surely, we have to navigate among these snags (other people), so we had better know what they are going to do.  We build an image based on our past exposure, and measure everything through that image.

      The key and novel idea is that we are not related to the other to figure the “them” out, (that too), but we are relating to observe OUR OWN REACTION to them.  It is ourselves that we are observing in every occasion.  From that, we begin to see who we really are, and who we have come to be.

      If you can’t see it, you must be automatically justifying it.  So that is the first hurdle.

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    • #53961
      DestinationUnkown
      Participant

      This might be the most valuable post that I have ever written, especially for the focus of this forum. Now you have been here for 740 days, (since Feb 26 2023), have created 195 topics and made 12,823 replies. Quite a few of those replies have been to figure out the world situation, and who is doing what to whom. I don’t say stop, but is that all you want to engage with? It becomes “US and THEM” all the way. What has that changed in your life?

      Every news feed channel is a continuous “flush”, and yesterday’s events have no more interest. Maybe it’s because today’s events seem so much more “apocalyptic”. Newscasters are continuously searching for language that is more provocative and fear mongering. Now they have come up with; someone who tries to promote PEACE is a greater enemy than he who murders millions! They are betraying their allies.

      What do you remember of these past days, and didn’t most of it occur oceans away? Is it good only to prolong a continuous outrage? Outrage has a feeling of strength, (a high muscle tone), and it prevents you from considering alternative opportunities.

      LIKE TO KNOW THEYSELF.

      (I think that I forgot “outrage” on my list of benchmarks.)

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    • #53987
      Nico Cost
      Participant

      We write stuff for ourselves and maybe, just maybe, someone else can benefit from it too. What works for you (and me) doesn’t have to work for others. Diversity rules the world. Even if Jesus would revisit Earth, many would just walk past him and don’t want to listen. And every truth on Earth is only true for some time. Keep up the good work.

    • #54086
      DestinationUnkown
      Participant

      Hi Nico, thanks for your comment, and thanks for the encouragement.

      “Everything is beautiful in its’ own way
      Like a starry summer night or a snow covered winter’s day
      Everybody’s beautiful in their own way
      Under God’s heaven, the world’s gonna find a way”

      NOT EXACTLY.

      What you are saying is an appeal, to “please let me operate within my own conditioning, and I will ignore your obvious foibles”. Let’s each respect our no-go-zones. Sure, people have a process, it’s either moving ahead, or stalled out in resignation, (is that provocative)?

      I don’t tell anyone what their process is, nor what “works for me”. I only offer tools to take a look for yourself. Pick them up if you want to try. I think most people define their foibles as the normal human condition, and it stops there.  I also tell HOW.  Only in relationship,  but instead of  looking to understand the other guy, watch you own reactions to the other guy.  Figure out yourself.

      You could make this more rigorous definition. Freedom is the total absence of conflict or reaction in your life. It can happen.

      If you are conflicted, that is the sign that your world view is deficient. Why not look into it, at least with some of your attention? Or just live that way? Maybe you’re already doing it to the best of your ability?

      But people are very transparent, by what they say and do.  It is evident by where you spend your time.

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