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January 19, 2025 at 20:56 #50461
DestinationUnkown
ParticipantIt has come up in discussions that words have different connotations. Does that hinder understanding? Well, let’s just share what we mean. We don’t have to all adopt the same definition, but just say what we are communicating with that or other words. These I have gathered from what works in my life. I can also report that just writing something from yourself to yourself, is worthwhile. 2,300 words
This, like all my posts, comes from my new definition of relationship. Often, we think that we must endeavor to figure out the other guy. What are his motives and what are his likely moves. In another definition we might use relationship as our mirror. (That is a hint from others.) What are my reactions to this contact, and why do I act and feel like I do? Figuring out myself is infinitely more rewarding that gathering knowledge about the other.
I have no “expertise” to offer and I shun that concept, no matter where it has been laid. But I have been discovering lately, which reflects in my outlooks, and writing about it is my tool for consolidating that understanding. Whether it is of value for your particular life process is for you to determine. If you do see something, I would appreciate comments or questions. I will also question you, where I am not clear. We have been told a lot of things, which have become our expectations. We ought to sort through them to find where they might lead, and where they might be valid. (I’ll number these concepts, so you don’t take this as a “unified body”. Each number is open for contemplation and comment.)
We tend to be talking about many human processes, like awareness, perception, mind, thought, sensation, feeling, insight, intuition, discovery, or if thinking is the only creative tool that is taking us, (somewhere). But we are not grounded in what each other means by using these terms. Constantly explaining ourselves might make our comments too long or too repetitive. So, I offer this provisional way that I look at these things. In no particular order. Please add your modifications in the comments and we will know where each is coming from.
1. For example, a “perfected awareness” might take in the whole of our surroundings all at the same time. (Short-hand, you have an expectation that you’re supposed listen the bird’s tweet while you are washing the dishes.) You might, and you might not. Maybe you should just be watching the soap being applied to that greasy frying pan? Let’s say that you are playing tennis, and you remember your guru told you to listen to the bird’s tweet. What could be more absurd than that? This part of perfected-awareness can be thrown out.
2. Let’s ask if awareness can be multi-tasking? Maybe so, and maybe not. It is most often manipulated by attention, which means desire. In that case it is a mono-focus, and if it is coopted by one question, all the other questions are impoverished. Let’s throw that one out too, and let it happen as it happens.
3. Let’s go on to say that perception is triggered by a sensation, (you see or hear something). Can we just be fully aware of that sensation before thought pops in? (I think YES, we can.) But the way we are used to living, (it serves some purpose), is that immediately there is also triggered a thought arising out of memory to recognize that sensation and to judge it. Is it dangerous, pleasurable or painful, do I like it, or do I dislike it? All those conclusions are used to take our awareness away from that sensation and put it onto the judgements. First priority is to record it back into our memory as one more similar occurrence, and then to project into the future, “what we could do to modify that sensation”. NOW WE ARE LOST.
4. Let’s take up thought. Do we have to assume the origin of it? Is it bio-chemical, mechanical, or a gift from the higher realm of our idealized SELF? It is already here, (for whatever reason), so let’s just talk about how it operates. Does it take a trigger to get it going? (That is the sensation, which also could be a trigger from another thought from memory.) Thought can visualize an image, (word, sight, sound, etc.) A single image at a time can be apprehended by awareness alone. But to be thought, you must be juggling (comparing, categorizing and organizing) multiple past and present images. Where are multiple images located? Only in the storage bin of yesterday’s memories. So, then perception becomes a sensation, crossed with a recognizing thought. Thus, we look at all of our experiences through various images, never directly. The images contain our conditioning about our world. We see only through that conditioning.
5. We add to images, maybe reluctantly, but for the most part images are semi-fixed, until they become too much out of date. Therefore, our perception of the universe is semi-fixed, or moves rather slowly, as we so determine. How do images become “out of date”? It must be that in reality; our world is always in flux. Our wife may seem to be the “same-old-girl”, but that is because we only see our created image of her. Maybe she accepts it, and falls into line to play her part. But if we looked-her-in-the-eye directly, with no image, anything could happen. (HOW SCARY).
6. So, all of our images give a false sense of continuity to our life, and continuity is perceived as security. We count on our made-up images to tell us the continuing story of “who we are”. With direct “awareness” in the present tense, there are no images, so we don’t have any continuity. (It is adventurous). Thus FEAR, is the basic need for thought in the human life. It is also good, because thought propels us into the past and the future, to get away from that scary present. (I don’t say thought is impossible in the present), but it has a totally different quality, a flexible openness, no judgements, and without containing any inherited or adopted conditioning.
When thought subsides, even for a moment, there are zero conclusions from the past, since thought is the container for those conclusions. That might be a moment of pure awareness. That awareness is in complete sync with the movement of the universe. It sees TRUTH. Forced awareness, through meditative techniques, or spiritual practices are always for the egoic (separate-self’s) desire to attain spiritual mastery. It is just more acquisition for security.
7. Everything perceived is perceived both with the body and with the mind. Sensation (feeling), and thought (about the sensation). Feeling comes as a level of contraction in the musculature, (and perhaps elsewhere). If the sensation agrees with our memorized conclusions, the contraction lessens from our default muscle tone. (Then it’s a feeling from God.) If it is not accepted by our beliefs, the contraction tightens, (that one is mortal limitations). An indifferent sensation keeps our same default muscle tone, and we say that we do not recognize any feeling. (But it is always there.)
8. Since a feeling is in the body, it is always in the present tense. That makes it somewhat trustworthy. But really, it is completely modified by the memory’s acceptance or rejection. So now feelings become all about conditioning. Thought is the story that you tell yourself about every circumstance. Everyone can demonstrate, without schooling or practice, just by changing the story (even lightly), about any circumstance, and the feeling immediately changes. For this I say thought and feeling are inexorably linked. They are the same phenomenon. Even if you are in a car that suddenly loses traction and is careening into the ditch, there’s no time for thought. But that thought is already there, that cars don’t drive well in a ditch. For all practical purposes, thought and feeling are the same.
9. Now from several places, people maintain that feeling equals intuition, and it comes from a divine origin or the unseen. You can become more sensitized to it, (but can you interpret it correctly)?
10. Insight comes at a breakpoint in thought, or between two thoughts. Something becomes instantly clear (through awareness, which is not switched off). [Like when Archimedes got into a bathtub, and figured out if the royal crown was pure gold by realizing its density. EUREKA], Intuition might be a cross between insight and manipulated a bit with thought. Inspiration comes from wishing to imitate someone else’s life.
11. Discovery refers to what’s presently unknown. It is a widening of the contexts of memory and conditioning. There is no way to perceive the unknown, until you have made this expansion. Nothing unknown can generate from memory.
So, discovery is the product of awareness. Discovery, for you, can come through discussion, but not necessarily from someone else’s knowing. It is when confronting the two lines of thought, something might appear “in between them”. That is what we are doing here.
12. Let’s say something about the structure and the use of the mind, (it is not just thoughts), it’s the only instrument for living at man’s disposal. Otherwise, he cannot be truly human and realize all his potentialities. Here the word ‘mind’ covers both superficial, the conscious and the deep, the unconscious, the former manifesting itself as our daily consciousness, the latter as the impulses, urges, tendencies and motivations. The Conscious is that portion of the mind which is kept in the focus of attention. Under the attention which is motivated, and therefore limited, there is also the power of awareness. Awareness is most often steered by attention, which is motivated by desire. Awareness is the very substratum of experience: it is what makes experience happen.
13. Society: to become and remain truly human, society must be in a state of permanent revolution, of continuous re-evaluation, experimentation and re-organization. It should become and remain a social laboratory where new forms of social life, new patterns of relationship between man and man, plus man and society, are evolved and tested with the touch-stone of happiness and creativity. A truly human society will be integrated economically and politically. As of now, culture follows largely the economics of production and distribution.
14. Let Beliefs be called Definitions. That way it is your responsibility to make them up and change them at will.
Western man comes out of 1,000 years of Europe’s development, and it was all Christianity, Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox. The main Christian tenant is BELIEVE in what you can’t know; just trust what we tell you. That morphs into faith, adoration, worship, and of course defending that faith with sword and firearm. Hence, the western man is trained for 1,000 years to be a follower. What does a follower want? I must have a leader, who is my expert, (guru) and what is my ideology?
15. A Hunch is a guess or supposition about what can’t be known or proven. I can’t assume a hunch is a message from the beyond.
16. Ecstasy and Bliss are the great “come-on”, and an expectation. (A paradisiacal place, typically where souls are believed to live after mortal death.) Let’s just say ecstasy is high intensity thought and feeling and bold immediacy of action/response. Not that big of a deal.
17. Spiritual “truths”, spiritual paths, and all Guru-Speak must form expectations in the listener. There are volumes of these expectations, and (even if they could be true in a certain sense, or for those that speak them); it is not now at your level of operation and experiencing. All expectations rob your personal process of motive power and destroy it So, they are all a toxic to you. You are demanding a shortcut.
18. Experts suggest that a Habit is a pre-wired pattern, (probably in the brain), that has been ingrained by many decades of repetition. I suggest, (and it has happened often with me), that habit is held in place with an unconscious verbal justification. Once you find that justification and determine it is NO LONGER valid, the habit evaporates immediately.
19. Let’s look at Stillness of Mind. The first and most obvious cases are in sleep, grogginess, and extreme introversion. Another case of mind-stop is in Shock. WOW! I am “speechless”. Also, AWE stops the mind. Looking at something so immense, the milky-way on a clear dark night. The Grand Canyon, or a view for 40 miles in all directions from a mountaintop. A river in full flood stage, the racing water like the mass of dozens of heavily loaded freight trains rushing down the canyon. Hurricanes and cyclones have immense power.
We try to still the mind with practices, and something finally happens. But because the practice is from a motive and a desire, there is always the thought in the background, checking if that motive is being satisfied. (Am I making any progress, is my expectation being fulfilled, am I doing it right, or “hard enough”?) Hence you never arrive to the human potential.
Another stillness of mind happens for no reason, and with no desire. If I have been able to look directly at how and where my thoughts take me, (without any justification or reasoning of their validity), maybe I will find them uninteresting, and they could drop away (for periods) by themselves. What is left is just still awareness, without any reason or motive. There is no element to pollute it. A great seeing can happen on those occasions.
20. Let’s reserve some words for special purposes. Let TRUTH refer only to “what-is”, with no judgement. Use conditional-belief or current-definition to describe your current level of conclusions.
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There are other important topics, like the ‘unseen world’, Consciousness, and the nature of the individual. But these are too vast to add to this simple (already long) definition list. They will have to be looked at in a separate posting. I hope you can see where I am coming from out of each one of these items. Anyway, those are the tenants through which I have been discovering more-so every day.
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January 22, 2025 at 08:53 #50616
Nico Cost
ParticipantHi D Unknown,
You suggested I (and also others) could also make such a list of definitions. I could, but don’t feel I should. It’s not my ‘thing’. Maybe, maybe later. Don’t know. They way you approach your journey is different than mine. We share the interest of spending time in self-development, but with another approach. I guess you think a lot and I know I’m trying to feel more than think. What do you think all those others do? Do you see you’re very very different than most of them? Do you realize your approach is very very different than all that others? Do you think all that others would like to do the same as you do? Do you see how people react on you and your approach? It’s part of the game you know.
Hugs, Nico.
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January 24, 2025 at 06:11 #50761
DestinationUnkown
ParticipantHello Nico, I even get a lot out of one of your short replies. It stimulates me to think further about what is happening for me.
First of all I would say it is misguided to say that I think more, and feel less, and that you feel more, and think less. It is just another thought that you “could” keep all thoughts sort of fuzzy, or on the back burner, while feeling is the meaningful (and less confusing). How does feeling translate into action, (which is the only meaningful transition in life)? It has to be interpreted into words, doesn’t it? If you have another way, I would be fascinated to hear about it.
For me, every feeling has an underlying thought structure, and utilizing that link, feelings can change without any further process, as soon as you alter that underlying thought. Because I find feelings so malleable, I tend not to make meaning out of them. Again; That is my question, How do you derive action from feelings? Doesn’t it have to go through a phase of meaning?
I told you in another comment of the mystery on how I arrived here, and the several thresholds I had to pass through. But they did not phase me. I know the value of this forum tool. One of the thresholds are all those agonizing threads always pinned to the top. So If you ask me what the others do, I shudder to even think about it.
So far: I am very different from anyone I can know, on line or in person. I am very (extremely) proactive with my own life. Today I was in a local hang-out drinking coffee with “the guys”. I can partially get through to some of them, but in a shallow sense. And after years, nothing ever goes anywhere. It is a static life, some diversion or entertainment, or what’s for lunch. In the last couple days I met the sister of one of my friends who is visiting from a different country. She is completely alive, vibrant, sparkling, and wide open. I think we could talk for hours. It is face to face, but I could write her too. I don’t know if she is used to writing? Truly amazing that you can find a kindred spirit merely be chance. I think that me an her brother have also moved up a notch by her presence.
My approach is both organic, and empirical. It is based on the results, the shifts in my life. I will never go back to any old way. I number all of my posts, because none of them “go-out-of-date”. I am not recording current events or yesterday’s narratives. All of my current posts have a bit of a hard edge to them. Basically I am suggesting that maybe world society is an outgrowth from our personal mind-sets. I am further suggesting that an optimum thing to do is to enquire into yourself, to see if there are any traces of all those tendencies that you reject about world events. Yes that includes violence, fear, jealousy, greed, ALL OF IT. Let’s just each take a look. It is the only action step. It is not easy, because we have it so well hidden, (from ourselves). Not that difficult for others to see.
I know most others shut down when an different idea challenges. (Thanks for staying open). You might be analyzing me saying that I need to build my reputation. Nothing could be further from the truth of it. I have no need of any recognition, I have NO NAME.
For sure, there are people with like intensity in the world. True, I don’t know any of them. I post regularly on 5 platforms, something under 1,000 subscribers together. Different topics. There is no intensity there. I might need to post in another language to another culture. I think this one is running on empty. It doesn’t matter. I receive copious rewards, just by writing what is new for me, and then taking a look at it. Of course it is nice of you or another comment on it too. (Plus or Minus is OK.)
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January 24, 2025 at 11:58 #50775
Nico Cost
ParticipantHi D Unknown, it might be helpful to clarify my understanding of “feeling”. I see “feeling” here as intuition. Something jumps into your mind, as it were, and suddenly you “know” “it”. A variant is that you read something or hear something and your body gives a specific reaction that makes you know it is true or false. So this is different from our sense of “touch” where our body literally feels something in matter.
You are right that when we feel something in this sense and thus allow our intuition, we can then find something from it in our thinking. The feeling then has to be translated and made fit into our worldview. So it is quite difficult to remain pure when what you get through is not so obvious.
When dealing with others, it is helpful to find a balance between being/staying yourself on the one hand and connecting with those others on the other. It is not very effective to be purely yourself if the others find your selfhood irritating and turn away from you. Knowing yourself is important, for yourself and therefore for your dealings with others. When you know about yourself that you are very different from the average people around you, then you can also think of something you can do to find a better fit. Or you should be satisfied with the current situation and not take offence when people ignore you. When this becomes extreme, you will literally be expelled from the group. Then don’t be surprised.
For myself, I like to spend most of my time by myself and thus alone. I can easily engage in company and make contact easily, but superficiality tires me and depth tires others. On birthdays, people avoid me because I ask questions that challenge and focus on personal development and expansion of consciousness. Most people are not interested in that. A few do and they enjoy coming to me. That is also nice for me, because it is nice being together if the other person also wants to go into depth. In general, I don’t have much in common with people and I find animals much more pleasant to deal with. That also makes me quite different from the average, but I am okay with it and accept the situation as it is.
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January 25, 2025 at 01:37 #50804
DestinationUnkown
ParticipantI Nico, thanks for sharing about yourself. (I will go in reverse order of what you said).
I would have written that (fourth paragraph) verbatim about myself. (I have 3 cats and 4 dogs). Much of my life has been concentrated on my own projects, in business, and in personal pursuits, with very few others involved. I had some “customers”, but only on a casual level. I have distant (but cordial) relations with family.
There was one period, (at least 6 years), where I cast myself as a journalist. For those years I was the flip-side, extremely gregarious, engaging and talking with everyone, meeting tons of new faces, traveling the world. I was a publicist, and people were open to that. I was also very “at-home” with it, and I loved it. Why did it end? I guess I had learned everything that I needed from it. I can go both ways at the snap of a finger.
(Third paragraph), I feel absolutely no offence to be ignored or expelled from the group. Life is precious, and needn’t be frittered on compromising my process. Neither am I rigid in the front of others. I mentioned the coffee shop hang-out in another comment. Some tell me, “I can’t converse about anything with that (other) guy”. However I don’t cut-off, I generally attempt to take it as a challenge. What’s the use of only speaking with those who already agree? So I start slowly with some background material, and see where it goes. Then I have to gently come back to my points, after a series of non-sequiturs derail my discourse. Maybe I get close to making my point, or not. I enjoy the process.
You gave the example a while back saying, “You know God did not create religion.” That’s a “double-whammy” for some people, I think very difficult. I would suggest a softer entry.
(Second paragraph), so I understand that equating feeling to intuition is a “sensitive ground”. Maybe it cannot be “cut-and-dried” to hang out on the line like a thought structure can. May I assume that gradually a confidence has been confirmed, that these intuitions give good results in life?
Yet I don’t see any mechanism for thought to generate, other than from the anthology of yesterday’s experiences. I would surmise there is some compromise built into that transition, feeling to action. But maybe there is enough of the new for a good progress trajectory. I see that it is about the same, if I am only on a logic trail, why isn’t all of that also of the past tense? Perhaps very similar, that thought can be verified with a direct observation, from the platform of “NO-Thought”. We actually met on your posting about meditation.
Many of my thoughts are not about Truth, or any content or conclusion. They are about the mechanism of that very thought. For the most part thought always goes away from what is here and now, into conclusions ABOUT the here and now. IS THAT THE ONLY WAY TO RECEIVE THE HERE AND NOW, about it? Then doubt and investigation come into play.
(First paragraph), I can also read something or hear something, and get an immediate “knowing”, that hey, that is different and it seems to resolve much contradiction. It is worth pursuing. It is worth internalizing. It may have come from that other author, (but everyone might not receive it at the same level of revelation?) Or it may be some kind of “cross” between what he said and what I had previously defined. However, I have never been moved to source it from an “unseen world”. I don’t have to deny it either, but so far it has no allure nor traction in my own life. I define the unseen as a very dangerous place, and most likely, unneeded. It is here anyway, if it is.
So we both make a different impression on the G.S. Crowd. I may be the renegade, posting on my own thoughts, ignored by the “current-event-ors”, (they have their important work to recount what happened yesterday). I am also arrogant enough to number my posts, as if they were long-lived. Whereas you have the image of posting on the front page, the token spiritualist, very comforting messages, many thanks for explaining so clearly, now I feel better affirmed. You have more to live-up-to than I do. Is that an “authority”. Is your notoriety a limitation for you? I call it my freedom. I use it judiciously though, not to be shocking.
I am developing a lot of posts in the hopper. Why don’t you post something that you question, or that you want to talk about? Give more time off of the front page. THANKS
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January 25, 2025 at 10:12 #50813
Nico Cost
ParticipantSpeaking of arrogant, I find it incredibly tiresome to be right most of the time but also usually only get it after the fact. I am clairvoyant, clairsentient and clairsentient from birth, so I “see” much more than others. That does not mean that I am always right, so I want to be open to others and other insights. On the contrary, I also have a lot of doubt and allow that. If anyone is critical of that clairsentience, for example, it is me to myself. But because of that life experience, I no longer feel like trying to convince others or putting a lot of energy into choosing approaches that please them. At times I am brief, at other times extensive, at times I am kind and at other times confrontational, at times I ask questions and at other times I am firm in my vision, according to what suits me and often according to what I think and feel can be effective. If someone benefits from my interventions, that’s great, but most people need more time (read: more lives). I know that because of this (what I write) there are plenty of people who find me irritating and a conceited brat. However, that is not my business, and it is not my loss. This is a slightly further insight into my psyche, but at the same time only one of the inputs.
Most people are much more spiritual than they think they are. Thinkers get stuck in thinking, but do use their intuition. Indeed, the great thinkers among us, such as Einstein, for example, eventually understand that their intuition makes the lead and their thinking makes the goal. Without a preposition, there will be no goal. You cannot explain intuition scientifically and thinking cannot understand how feeling works. Moreover, thinking takes itself for a fool because it is always behind the times. You always decide to buy something from your gut and then think up the arguments later. Thinking thinks it is in control. Thinking sees only the outer world and not the inner world, it uses the five Earth senses but depends on the Cosmic senses. Our soul extends into our body but at the same time is connected to the unseen world. Thinking cannot reach it and does not understand it, you can only feel this and then try to explain it with your thinking. When you believe in God, it is not in your thinking but in your feeling. Thinking tries to ignore or repel what it cannot understand and explain, whereas we feel whether something is true or not. This is also what we see when dealing with loss of loved ones. We can be at peace with it earlier in our thinking, but still be at peace with it for years in our feeling. Thinking does not understand feeling. Our feeling is our real life and our thinking is how we try to control that life. There is so much more to elaborate on this, but for that it is especially necessary to allow intuition and let thinking follow. Knowing that our thinking will often be in resistance and do a lousy job. You will usually have to be content to “know it” approximately. It will always remain foggy.
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January 25, 2025 at 20:35 #50831
DestinationUnkown
ParticipantHello Nico, You’ve given a lot to unwrap here. Clairvoyance is said to be unexplainable connections. Like you go into the woods and you directly find where the murderer dumped the body? Who said the body was in the woods anyway? I don’t see the use of it.
Clairsentience refers to the ability to pick up on explicit messages from the energy and feelings of those around you without having clear knowledge beforehand, like empathic intuition. But humans are transparent on so many levels, in speech and in the body. Say two words and it is like paragraphs of information. The furrow on the brow, shape of holding the mouth, the connection of the face to what you are saying, of course posture, hunching over, arms can’t hang relaxed at the sides, the feet don’t point in the same direction, not to say the shape of the gut. Those that look can’t help noticing. Often I don’t look, to allow that privacy. Anyway it is a characterization, and it’s detrimental to relationship.
Just to affirm, without “doubts” you have “arrived”. There is no further enquiry. You are cursed to live this same life until the end. Doubt is what allows expansion.
We share what might be effective for the other. In Zen, they have a stick, But I think it is reserved for the adepts. (You say that sharing is only one of your inputs?)
>”Thinkers get stuck in thinking, but they DO use their intuition“. So they are not “stuck” but only misinterpreting. They must wrap thought around that intuition. Does that wreck the intuition or only disguise it? Is the unseen world only effective when you “suck up to it”? By that I mean many religions say that God ignores you (or punishes you), unless you worship him. Create extravagant feelings, swoon, and have a reborn experience, (of Jesus knocking you on the head).
If the unseen world is really part of Truth, how can it turn on and off capriciously? You already have it as a part of your life, no matter what. (I will writes something about insight, intuition, and inspiration below.)
___________All parameters (judgment points), of thinking are collected past experiences. It is the filter of the past, overlaid on everything that is ever thought about. We “feel good” about it, because that is our continuity, and continuity is both ✓who I think I am, and ✓my security, that life doesn’t move too fast and get out of hand. It all has the same past-ring to it. A great part of thinking is to deny or to resist that which appears too different. We’re also afraid of social pressure, pressure on up to being shot for heresy.
[Side note: Science, technology and society are thinking. We depend on that thinking in the physical world. I am proposing that thinking is not improving man’s psychological world. It is the cause of all the disasters. That is reason enough to enquire into insight, intuition, (you call feeling), and inspiration. Where is another tool to correct impaired thinking?]
We sanitize our thought/motivation/action with words like love and compassion. I suggest love is extremely rare if not non-existent for most people. Please take a real good look. When the wife dies, who’s going to iron my shirts? It is a terrible loss.
Something runs life and thinking is the overlay to explain it. You have called that motive power “feeling”. What is the root (source) of it? Is it ever modified? Do I have anything to say about it? Is it carrying me somewhere constructive? Is it making my societal soup that I am immersed in? Is it a constant struggle? Will I ever experience no-conflict? Does it contain the definition that struggle is my nature?
By the way, an acceptable thought overlay (explanation), DOES modify feeling, – every time. And; we are more willing to accept violent and anxious thoughts these days, than ever before, and still “feel good” about them. Is this the ‘best we can do’?
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I define “conditioning” as the motive force that’s unfolding life. Sure, it is received by the body also (in feeling), as in the mind (in thought). It is located in the memory and in the unconscious memory. Both the thoughts and the feelings are in there. I would give the purpose of life is to UNDO conditioning. What is left over is freedom, and of course the responsibility of what to do with that freedom. There is no formula to that responsibility, and I cannot predict my own tomorrow, much less anyone else’s, nor that of the next generation.
I can predict the human trajectory in the absence of freedom. That’s the present condition.
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January 26, 2025 at 00:15 #50835
DestinationUnkown
ParticipantAre these useful kinds of definitions to build communication on? (I said I would expand on these things. This as my opinion.)
What is inspiration? I see it as coming from the life of another person. Someone has an impressive biography. “Well, I would like to emulate some of that.” It is a form of imitation. True, we can learn from another (or be inspired). But it may not work. That’s because we will say that our circumstances are different, those were simpler times. And you can no-longer get things done in that way.
What is intuition? That word ‘intuition’ could be a rather tricky word, which many use. It may be good, or the actuality of intuition may be the result of desire. How would you know if it was or wasn’t? One may desire something and then a few days later one has an intuition about it. And one thinks that that intuition is extraordinarily important. But if one goes into it deeply one may find that it is based on desire, on fear, or on expanding various forms of pleasure or satisfaction. So one is doubtful about that word, especially when used by those people who are rather romantic, who are rather imaginative, sentimental and seeking something in life. They would certainly have intuitions, but they might be based on some obvious self-deceptive desires. Desire is a connection to the past, it’s not expansive, but it’s regressive. For the moment let’s put aside that word intuition with certain doubts.
The word ‘insight’ is to see into things, into the whole movement of thought in the moment; into the whole movement, for example, of jealousy. It is to perceive the nature and structure of greed, to see the whole content of sorrow. It is not a step-by-step analysis, not the exercise of intellectual capacity, nor is it the result of knowledge. There might also be a desire to perceive something, but a content or focal point in thought is NOT there. Knowledge is that which has been accumulated through the past from experience, stored up in the memory. There is no complete knowledge, therefore with knowledge there is always ignorance, like two horses in tandem. But if observation is not based on knowledge, nor on intellectual capacity nor reasoning, exploring and analyzing, then what is it?
Observation is: to perceive something in the moment, which must be true, logical, sane, rational. Insight must act all at once. It is not that one has an insight and does nothing about it. If one has an insight into the whole nature of thinking, it’s the observing without remembrances, without argumentation, pro and con; it is just to see the whole movement and nature of it, then there is instant action.
Thinking is the response of memory. Memory is experience, it is knowledge, stored up. Memory responds: where do you live?—you answer. What is your name?—there is an immediate response. Thought is the result or the response of the accumulation of experience and knowledge, stored as memory. Thought is based upon, or is the outcome of knowledge; thought is limited because knowledge is limited. Thought can never be all-inclusive; therefore, it is everlastingly confined, limited, narrow. Now, to have an insight into that, means that there is an action which is not merely another repetition of thought.
Have an insight, for example, into the wounds and hurts that one has received from childhood. All people are hurt for various reasons, from childhood until they die. There are these wound in them, psychologically. Now, have an insight into the whole nature and structure of those hurts.
You are hurt, wounded psychologically. You may go to a psychologist, analyst, psychotherapist, and he may trace why you are hurt; from childhood, your mother was this, and your father was that and so on, but by merely seeking out the cause, the hurt is not going to be resolved. It is there. The consequences of that hurt are isolation, fear, resistance, defense, so as not to be hurt any more; therefore, there is self-enclosure. That is the whole movement of being hurt.
The hurt is the image that you have created for yourself, about yourself. So as long as that image remains you will be hurt. Now, to have an insight into all that—without analysis—to perceive the whole structure instantly, then that very perception is the insight; it demands all your attention and energy; and in that insight the hurt is dissolved, it is digested. That insight will dissolve your hurt completely, leaving no mark, and therefore nobody can hurt you anymore, related to that. The image that you had created about yourself no longer exists.
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January 26, 2025 at 07:31 #50861
Nico Cost
ParticipantDo you love yourself by thinking it or by feeling it? Do you love yourself? How do you find out?
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January 27, 2025 at 21:23 #50975
DestinationUnkown
ParticipantOf course, it is both thinking and feeling, or both feeling and thinking, as you choose to view it. Actually, I give another definition of the word LOVE. I know of nobody (me too) who loves with full compassion. In the western world the word love is used only to hold in place certain conveniences. (Even mother-love fulfills some purpose.) Love is not something that you do, not something driven by desire, or judgements and acceptance, not from alike cultural conditioning. Love is what is left over if you can strip away all internal/external conflicts. Who is willing to do that, or even to look into it?
The easiest way to love yourself is by direct definition. I would have it in no other way. I do not dabble in self-effacing-judgement nor regret. I can easily hold to that, so I will see what comes of it.
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January 28, 2025 at 08:46 #50997
Nico Cost
ParticipantI tried to make you ‘feel’, but all you do is ‘think’. I guess we live in different worlds and can only meet when I visit yours.
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