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    • #42777
      AHH
      Blocked


      From Isfahan, with Love

      Whats been happening in Appalachia is shocking. I spent several years in the Shenandoah Valley.. was married nearby and carried a week old child there. Once drove further south into North Carolina on a job interview. this is collapse..


      👨‍🦲 Winter is coming

    • #42783
      Mr P
      Participant

      https://t.me/VanessaBeeley/31889

      Gallant, military assistant and head of Netanyahu’s office and himself, Israeli army Chief of Staff, the head of MOSSAD and the head of Shabak, in Kirya having a meeting.

      Netanyahu doesn’t look so happy!  Oct 2 at 06:06

      NAZI MURDERERS MEET IN SAD REVIEWSLOUCHING NAZI

    • #42801
      Mr P
      Participant

      Guido Preparata interview

      rather long… Mar 2, 2021, this fellow has an understanding of the history that’s highly non-canonical, and which I see as most enlightening and valid.

    • #42811
      Mr P
      Participant

      https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/43107

      2 meter ham repeater feed USA from the flood

    • #42824
      Mr P
      Participant

      Sal the Sailorman

      Video Exclusive: MV Cordelia Moon Engaged by a Drone In The Red Sea | No Injuries Reported

      Of course, “no injuries reported”    Take that with lotsa salt.

    • #42827
      Mr P
      Participant

       

      Patrick Lancaster : LIVE from Ukraine War Zone – #KURSK Frontline – #Donetsk

    • #42843
      Mr P
      Participant

      Russian court freezes assets of JP Morgan and Bank of New York — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union

      https://www.rt.com/russia/605139-us-banks-asset-freeze/

      excerpt>

      The Moscow Region arbitration court on Wednesday ordered a freeze on funds belonging to two US banking majors, JP Morgan Chase and The Bank of New York Mellon. The measure reportedly affected nearly 93.5 billion rubles ($1 billion) held by the institutions and their subsidiaries in the country.

      Like General Jack Ripper said, two can play…

    • #42993
      Mr P
      Participant

      Well! The whole world can see that the United States is sinking…but to add to the reality, yet another fine symbolic event is in planning… How fittin’. History of metaphor.  Like the well known and quite popular, with some “lucky” fellows Ms Harris, she’s a goin’ down. On the bottom with Davy Jones.

      Historic SS United States to Become World’s Largest Artificial Reef Off Florida Coast

      Historic SS United States to Become World’s Largest Artificial Reef Off Florida Coast

       

    • #43013
      Mr P
      Participant

      Whether the NC hurricane-flood (and poor FEMA response) was or was not enhanced or guided I am skeptical.

      But real-estate games are 100% foundational, that why the nazi wiped out the buffalo, why G. Washington burned Red Indians towns…such traditions continue.

      Lithium and Quartz, and they already made a deal with Tesla? The racket runs.

      @joeatec

      ♬ original sound – joeatec

    • #43015
      Mr P
      Participant

      Kerry is incredibly stupid. Who took his bar exam anyway? Of course while they’re at it they’ll “reform” all the other prohibitions on the government too, like guns, search, self-incrimination, torture…all the good stuff they want they’ll then claim is “legal”

      DEM WIN NOT AMENDMENT ONE NO MORE

    • #43020
      Mr P
      Participant

      Napolitano and Doctorow>

    • #43021
      Mr P
      Participant

      See Zerohedge> Prosecutors Seek Indefinite Delay In Trial Of Alleged Trump Assassin Over “Complex” Evidence  The Fix is in!

      https://www.zerohedge.[       ]com/political/prosecutors-seek-indefinite-delay-trial-alleged-trump-assassin-over-complex-evidence

      and>

      Who Bankrolled Routh? Jim Rickards Worries Whether Trump Will Make It to The Election

      https://www.zerohedge.com/political/who-bankrolled-routh-jim-rickards-worries-whether-trump-will-make-it-election

      They need a big event, a war (?) to claim that the “election”, which they’ll lose, must be “postponed”. Looks like that’s their “plan”, whacking the Orange man may be a plan they’ve given up on as too risky. Even dead, Orange and Vance would probably get elected.

      …………

      CME? Fubar the juice? Blind the radars? SNAFU the MIC? Is Heaven pizzedoff? Makie big joke?

      Sun Ejects Earth-Directed X9.0-Class Solar Flare, Largest In Years

      https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/sun-burps-second-biggest-solar-flare-cycle-25-impact-analysis-says-earthbound-weekend

      ………………

      Oil Surges On Report Biden “Discussing” Strike Of Iranian Oil Facilities

      https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/oil-surges-report-biden-discussing-strike-iranian-oil-facilities

      ………………

      Innarrestin’

      Russian Anti-Air Missiles Likely Engaged Israeli Jets Attacking Syria’s Coast | ZeroHedge

      I recall a preacher’s sermon and lesson, When God wishes to speak to man, first he whispers, then if man does not listen, He throws rocks.

    • #43050
      Mr P
      Participant

      Sal the Sailorman, who claims he’s an historian and actually teaches history (!), while he doanknowchit.  Here’s one for that good lad, Sal> Sam Cooke > https://archive.org/details/youngsik._20191127_1432 

      (he’s very amusing though)

      Here, below, he speaks of the Port Strike day two.

      Remarking that if, as expected, the oil supply from the Middle East is brought to a stop, then the freak show in CONUS, already shaken by the Hurricane and the collapse of confidence in all sectors, and the pending financial crash, begins to look like a “perfect storm”. Not that anyone ought to be surprised.

      Remarking too, of 404 zone, that one of the sages, Doctorow perhaps, opined very recently that the Red Army will have to go to the Polish border. My thought? The Polish border itself has changed many times. My personal hunch, the Red Army at some point will arrive in CONUS, or what used to be CONUS. If that’s “the Polish Border, so be it.

      Heeerrrs Sal…

    • #43065
      Mr P
      Participant

      Speaking of History… a learned paper, and a keeper! >

      Political Collapse: Lessons From Fallen Empires
      By Richard E. Blanton, Gary M. Feinman, Stephen A. Kowalewski, and Lane F. Fargher-Navarro

      (fellas who actually are historians)

      go.ind.media/webmail/546932/1526261691/b9271f6535026d8069255dd634cde2d8a6a8ffddb76ccbc0f0725cf9d2a71250

      Fragment/excerpt>

      Our investigation of the disastrous society-wide collapses of four premodern polities, China’s Ming Dynasty, the South Asian Mughal Empire, the High Roman Empire, and Renaissance Venice led to the discovery of an unexpected historical pattern. This revelation was not evident before these sudden collapses as all four polities had demonstrated forms of governance that persisted for centuries, had been among the wealthiest and best-governed polities of their eras, and had embraced policies fostering inclusiveness and egalitarianism that engendered strong support from the majority of their citizens.

      We could not identify any exogenous causal factors for the collapses—such as drought, epidemic, or conquest by a more powerful foe (three of the four eventually were conquered, but only after their governments were considerably weakened)—adding to our confusion about what led to these major political transformations.

      To understand the reasons for the political breakdowns, we decided to revisit an earlier article in which we had posited an answer to this question when it became increasingly clear to us that the conflictive political culture of the contemporary U.S. presents striking parallels with what we had discovered. We aim to reexamine our article to bring a comparative perspective on historically well-known episodes of collapse, their causes, and negative outcomes, and to alert U.S. citizens of the potential dangers we face, so we can highlight the need to take urgent corrective actions. We begin by referring to recent works by political scientists and anthropologists that provided theoretical context for our arguments.

      Collective Action Theory Expands Our Understanding of Governance

      In all four instances, collapse followed quickly after the leaders of these polities inexplicably and suddenly abandoned principles and practices that had successfully underpinned state-building and social stability. Their actions initiated a cascading series of events that brought a rapid decline in many aspects of society, which extended beyond the government. But why would the actions of just a few people have such severe consequences for otherwise endurable and well-organized polities?

      and so on….

    • #43096
      Mr P
      Participant

      The “American” nazi “Free State” is described @ UNZ by F. Hill, inter alia… Article by A Crooke.

      Fiona Hill, formerly of a member of the U.S. National Security Council, propounds the counter-view: that since U.S. interests, described mostly as ‘threats’ which are long term, “the structures to address those threats must also be long-term, too”. (She illustrates the point by quoting ‘the long-term threat from Russia’).

      Hill is saying ‘the Aristocracy’ will rule long-term, via institutionalised, ‘inter-agency’ world order prescription.

      This then, is the Aristocracy’s solution to the Imperial succession lacuna: Leviathan. “Leviathan – whose promise and project is straight forward – cancel all powers except one, which will be universal and absolute”.

      Will the suffocating cage of Leviathan be avoided?, by Alastair Crooke – The Unz Review

      https://www.unz.com/article/will-the-suffocating-cage-of-leviathan-be-avoided/

       

    • #43103
      Mr P
      Participant

      Spelling “funny business” as “F-E-M-A”

      American Hurricane Victims Forced to Support Israel for Govt Aid

      How about that “free state”? eh?

      American Hurricane Victims Forced to Support Israel for Govt Aid

      ………………….

      …and on the road with a regular fella…in Florida…who tells a short dark story…one that leads to serious questions…take the trash back, dump it in the front yard, and wait…. a year !!??

      https://x.com/VeBo1991/status/1841845520383541478

    • #43117
      Mr P
      Participant

      Who runs the rackets (and licenses the gangs)….

      See also Politics of Heroin… https://archive.org/details/thepoliticsofheroininsoutheastasia_202003

      and… The Big White Lie… https://archive.org/details/bigwhiteliedeepc0000levi

      article below focuses on Rus and Europe…mentions Biden the younger, and 404 too!

      Russia – A Refuge From the World of Global Drug Trafficking

      https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/russia-a-refuge-from-the-world-of

       

       

    • #43125
      Mr P
      Participant

      ILA and the Capitalist finks… https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/us-port-workers-agree-end-strike-after-accepting-62-wage-increase

      “…The International Longshoremen’s Association said it had agreed to extend the contract until Jan. 15”  (after it got 62%… and probably allota other stuff)

    • #43128
      amarynth
      Keymaster
    • #43135
      Mr P
      Participant

      Thanks!

      On river I punctiliously observed the COLREG, including signals. It was amusing, as nobody else knew them. Signal “astern” (3 long blasts) leaving marina, or whatever, just got me dirty looks. That feller is a very sound sleeper! 🙂  🙂  I used to lay bouys and hoist appropriate (black ball) when anchored so fellas wouldn’t run over the lines, they did it anyway. Then there was the time some fella trying to dock started yelling to the near naked girl on the bow “drop the anchor!” She did. Ok, now what? She asked. Pull on the rope!  He yelled.  Rope?  Yup, the rode and the anchor kersplash. Cute girl though.

      I have no idea why he wanted to drop it, he was almost in the slip, but didn’t understand wind and current. Hours later we grappelled it up and took it to the office.

      Those were very fine days.

    • #43136
      Mr P
      Participant

      “Germany is blocking all steps of the international community to determine the circumstances of the terrorist attacks on the Northern Streams and punish the perpetrators”, said the permanent representative of Russia to the UN Vasiliy Nebenzya.

      This makes me think of Lennard Cohen (everybody knows)  https://youtu.be/xu8u9ZbCJgQ?t=2

      ……………………………………………

      Frau Sara having to do with zone 404 and history….to me she either is, or is pretending for rhetorical purposes to be, naive.>

      DD Geopolitics
      Forwarded from UkraineNaziWatch
      The Bundestag, Member of the Parliament: Ukraine’s corruption, chaos and the Nazi cult, 2024

      Quoting Sarah Wagenknecht:
      Inoweit muss man schon sagen ein von grasierender Korruption gezeichnendes Land mit mangelnder Rechtsstaatlichkeit, ein Land in dem ein Mann als Nationalheld verehrt wird dessen Milizen sich am Holocaust beteiligt haben.
      Ob das jetzt wirklich ein Bestandteil der Europäischen Union?
      Werden kann also ich bin davon überzeugt damit würde sich die Europäische Union selbst zerstören!

      English:
      In this respect, one has to say a country marked by
      ▫️rampant corruption
      ▫️a lack of the rule of law,
      ▫️a country in which a man is revered as a national hero whose militias participated in the Holocaust.

      Is it really a part of the European Union?

      So I am convinced that this would destroy the European Union itself!

      Full original Youtube video.
      9.7Kviews08:43

      At>  autotranslate is available

    • #43140
      Mr P
      Participant

      Some people might be somewhat upset. If it happened, well, it ain’t the first time a federal fella got whupped down south… (I tried to find the clip from Oh Brother where the kid fires a warning shot and brags  “Ah winged the census man”. Alas! No find.

       Anyway this might be true:

      https://x.com/RetroCoast/status/1842212404689551467 @RetroCoast
      Breaking: Reports that a FEMA director who was acting arrogant and denying aid to #NorthCarolina flood victims was BEATEN by local residents The incident occurred 20 miles south of #Asheville
      7:37 AM · Oct 4, 2024· 2.3M Views

      ………………

      Speaking of violence… and “professional” murderers at work.  https://x.com/ytirawi/status/1842242729436201158

      In an unprecedented & biggest investigation into war crimes in Gaza, we expose the elite & secretive IDF sniper team, the Ghost Unit “Refaim” & their brutal executions of unarmed civilians Soldiers from Paris, Munich, Illinois, Brussel, Johannesburg, Italy->

      38 minute video

      ………………..

      Sal and (yuck) Fox “News” on the tentative ILA deal…

    • #43141
      Mr P
      Participant

      Uncle Ray and Brother Johnson chat with Napolitano….

      INTEL Roundtable w/ Johnson & McGovern – Weekly Intel Wrap Up

       

    • #43145
      Mr P
      Participant

      Leaked photo of whos running the White House.

      WHO IS RUNNING WHITE HOUSE LEAKED PIC

    • #43150
      Mr P
      Participant
    • #43162
      Mr P
      Participant

      Recommending Cook’s book…explains the driving force of the nazi empire, and the wars to-day in Palestine and Europe, and the “necessity” for the Empire, and for the utmost resistance in opposition by the Global South, Russia, China, India, and Iran, etc.

      Catchy! > “The CIA’s Goal is to Create a “Depleted Population of Compliant Zombies” So a Narrow Capitalist Elite Can Rob and Exploit, According to former Carter White House Official and NASA Whistleblower” (no chit!)

      Book (very well-worth reading) review>

      The CIA’s Goal is to Create a “Depleted Population of Compliant Zombies” So a Narrow Capitalist Elite Can Rob and Exploit, According to former Carter White House Official and NASA Whistleblower – CovertAction Magazine

      https://covertactionmagazine.com/2024/10/03/the-cias-goal-is-to-create-a-depleted-population-of-compliant-zombies-so-a-narrow-capitalist-elite-can-rob-and-exploit-according-to-former-carter-white-house-official-and-n/

      …………

      Dovetails to Preparata’s Conjuring Hitler.

      Note in review> Elmer Barnes is written of in passing.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Elmer_Barnes

      …………..

      Cook video in re>

       

    • #43176
      Mr P
      Participant

       

       

      Geewhiz! Who’d a thunk?

      (from locals)

      “A timely reminder: In early 2009, leaks revealed that the CIA had commissioned a report into Israel’s viability which predicted that the Zionist state would fall within 20 years.

      I would personally be pretty surprised if his settler-colony makes it all the way to 2029. And with the Zionist entity will fall also the web of Arab client regimes that have helped to maintain Anglo-American domination of the middle east’s people and resources for the last century.” Joti Brar

      CIA report: Israel will fall in 20 years

      (I used 12 foot ladder to get the story, which runs (excerpt) >

      CIA report: Israel will fall in 20 years
      September 22, 2009
      A study conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has cast doubt over Israel’s survival beyond the next 20 years.

      The CIA report predicts “an inexorable movement away from a two-state to a one-state solution as the most viable model based on democratic principles of full equality that sheds the looming specter of colonial apartheid while allowing for the return of the 1947-1948 and 1967 refugees. The latter being the precondition for sustainable peace in the region.”

      and goes on…noting that a report about whether the US State will stand in 2029 would be more innarrestin’, as one and the other are as a pair. Thus may we speculate that the collapse of the US State will cause the zionist colony to collapse, or the other way ’round? Cascades happen… I wonder though about the globalist monsters…whither goeth those finks…

    • #43271
      Mr P
      Participant

      While my personal recollection was that under-ground atomic test explosions were 100% detectable via seismic  “signature”, evidently this is not necessarily the case for small devices. A very large chemical explosion can mask a near-simultaneous  small atomic explosion, the learned boffins say. And, in a similar way, a small atomic explosion in a very large plenary space “muffles” the “signature”.

      In any event, Strategy suggests that ambiguity may be the best path to flummox the decision-making of a putative opponent. Recalling Master Sun Tsu, all war is based on deception.  Which is to opine that if Iran has tested an atomic machine we will probably know in the fullness of time.

      One does need more than the “poot” – there’s some engineering and bits necessary to get the stuff to “go”… Much of that may be done in advance and on the shelf, who can say? That said, the ultra-simple “Hiroshima” machine was, though very inefficient, inelegant, a sure thing not worth testing.

      For details on detecting, etc, three essays>

      https://www.princeton.edu/~ota/disk2/1988/8838/8838.PDF

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forensic_seismology

      https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB94/

      On the simple bombs, see Coster-Mullen

       

    • #43273
      Mr P
      Participant

       

      The “Poseidon” effect zone City of London. Perhaps there’s some subtle implication? (from RT)

      Poseidon Effect Zone Thames

       

    • #43282
      emersonreturn
      Participant

      re: targeting churches in canada.

      in victoria the decimation of churches has been ongoing for 2 decades, since 2011 it has been inescapable even our woke zombies have noticed.   the  most ravaged churches have been the united protestant.  this poor group tried to embrace the wef’s many flavoured robes of the year thereby losing their heart & soul.

      the latest church was demolished within an hour.   a for sale sign had not been posted, no word leaked to locals nor contractors of a pending demo sale, the local auction house had not been informed nor the dealers along antique row.   all gone, the three story walls of stained glass, the rows of solid pews, the first growth flooring, first growth beams & panelling, the curving staircases, the solid brass & copper fixtures & the many hanging bronze & alabaster chandeliers, a huge imported all the way from germany pipe organ, the bell tower & its massive italian bells, the marble & granite entrance all reduced to rubble in the time it takes to coffee up @ star bellies.  where once children from the elementary school across the street would gather after school for baked goods & cocoa while waiting for their rides home, or AA meetings assembled in the basement hall in the evening hoping to make it through another night is all gone.    around the 30foot crater temporary fencing has been installed to ‘protect’/discourage the homeless from sheltering amongst the rubble & from which hangs a large for sale sign.

       

      • #43303
        Mr P
        Participant

        So far Anoxia is spared major arson, the multitude of churches stand. But a campaign of arsons in zone Canada has coordination when it happens…so the absence of “Serget Preston and his faithful hound dog” tells us by deductive logic who dunnit. Why is beyond me, other than to recall that the previous nazi regime, the German one, and the one being run in zone 404, used arson and murder to bring the churches to heel.

    • #43297
      Mr P
      Participant

      The place of the United States and Israel in the governments of the EU and France , by Thierry Meyssan

      A bit of nazi occupation agenda history… https://www.voltairenet.org/article221333.html

      excerpt>

      At the end of the Second World War, the United States and the United Kingdom divided the world between them. Churchill imagined grouping West Germany, Belgium, France, Italy, Luxembourg and the Netherlands in a supranational organisation, the European Economic Community (EEC). It was to replace the AMGOT (which persisted in Germany and Italy) to implement the principle of free movement of people, services and capital, in accordance with the Anglo-Saxon strategy of free trade. The United States linked the Marshall Plan loans to the obligation of these countries to join the EEC.
      The British MI6 created the European League for European Cooperation (ELEC), while the CIA financed the Union of European Federalists (UEF) and created the American Committee on United Europe (ACUE).

      The first president of the High Authority of the EEC, that is to say of the predecessor of the Commission of the European Union, was the German Walter Hallstein (1958-1967). This Nazi jurist had designed the Neuordnung Europas (New European Order) for the Führer Adolf Hitler:  And so on…

      …………….

      JACQUES BAUD: US MEDIA SHIFT NARRATIVE ON UKRAINE BEFORE US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS – In Gaza  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuWj1hyuk84

      …………………..

      Blinken Pushing For Long-Range Missiles For Ukraine To Destroy Russia | Armstrong Economics

      https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/blinken-pushing-for-long-range-missiles-for-ukraine-to-destroy-russia/       (see also RT on the subornation of the OPCW and bullchit about Rus using chemicals, RT news 07 October.)

      ………………

       

      • #43304
        AHH
        Blocked


        Re: “At the end of the Second World War, the United States and the United Kingdom divided the world between them.”

        Once upon a time, another hubristic pair – the Iberians Spain and Portugal — had the Pope divide the world between them.

        Today they are abjectly poor, the occupied useful idiots of the Anglo-American Empire, being suicided against Russia along with the rest of Europe….. As with the ancient Greeks, Romans, Egyptians…

        there is eventually recovery (from what survives) but the Fall after Hubris and loss of Empire tends to be prolonged, bordering on centuries. Will the Anglos ever recover from what Russkie has planned for them??? Regardless, based on long history, crazies never regain the spotlight under the sun. The eternal cycle of the moth Icarus

        • #43323
          Mr P
          Participant

          As Bismarck said, the secret of political success is to make a good treaty with Russia. Since that’s not possible for the ruling anglosaxon mind, it won’t happen. The “alternative” is destruction. Noting that destruction may be understood as a form of “deterrence” , albeit an extreme form. Let us recall however that many anglosaxons do not share the aggressive drang, it’s more like a atavistic feature in a few powerful families, or “clubs”.

          Deterrence, anglosaxon zone, decisive kind….  >

           

           

    • #43299
      Mr P
      Participant

      China condemns [nazi] terrorist attack, urges thorough investigation and severe punishment of perpetrators after 2 Chinese killed in Pakistan – Global Times

      Two Chinese nationals were killed and one was injured after a convoy carrying Chinese staff of the Port Qasim Electric Power Company (Private) Limited was attacked near Jinnah International Airport in Karachi on Sunday around 11 pm. The attack also caused casualties among local Pakistanis.

      https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202410/1320763.shtml

      …………………..

    • #43302
      Mr P
      Participant

      Remarkable coincidences are not coincidences, these don’t happen in realpolitik nor in economic reality.

      LAND GRAB NORTH CAROLINA

       

    • #43305
      Mr P
      Participant

      Why The EU Wants War | Armstrong Economics

      KOHL THE DICTATOR EU CREATION

      Why the EU Wants War

    • #43343
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      This is funny: The founding of America … the historically accurate version.
      The canned laughter is not so funny but the clip is funny.

      https://t.me/myLordBebo/46708

    • #43345
      Mr P
      Participant

      https://x.com/hartgoat/status/1843158426509258957   “Unknown helio” Washingtons ghost on X: “Why did an unmarked Blackhawk rotor wash a supply drop off in western North Carolina https://t.co/CqkgCvwEVZ” / X

      “We are Expecting Another Hurricane Hitting”. FEMA Is Running Out of Funding, DHS Secretary Mayorkas Warns – Global ResearchGlobal Research – Centre for Research on Globalization

      “We are Expecting Another Hurricane Hitting”. FEMA Is Running Out of Funding, DHS Secretary Mayorkas Warns

    • #43357
      Mr P
      Participant

      Sal the Sailorman puts the best possible “spin” on the NZ fubar’d research ship sinking. Hardly worth watching, btw. Interesting tidbit tho, his royalness was on Samoa at the time. Sal fails to speak of the oil spill. His clips of the NZ spokeslady show her saying “grounding”, not sinking. It sank. Hal does also say “sank”.

      ……………..

      Much better, honest and blunt report on the matter of the so-called Hamas “terrorist attack” from a year ago. It was clear at the time that the zionists wanted Hamas to attack and facilitated it, and knew in advance, and murdered most of the people, smashed most of the cars and buildings.

      see> On the One-Year Anniversary of October 7, It is Clear We Were Not Told The Truth – CovertAction Magazine

      https://covertactionmagazine.com/2024/10/07/on-the-one-year-anniversary-of-october-7-it-is-clear-we-were-not-told-the-truth/

      docu film> October 7 was an Inside Job

      excerpt> “The film shows footage of two purported Mossad agents opening the gates to the electric fence to Hamas fighters to allow them to enter Israel and carry out the terrorist attacks of October 7.”

      excerpt> “Additionally, the film suggests that: a) Mossad knew in advance of the October 7 attack and may have helped to plan it; b) IDF officers were deliberately withdrawn to allow the Hamas invaders to enter the country and carry out their attacks; c) female IDF soldiers who reported on Hamas activities were deliberately ignored and then allowed to be killed; and d) many of the killings of Israeli civilians were carried out by IDF soldiers as part of the deception operation, whose purpose was to inflame Israeli opinion in support of war.[1]”

       

      • #43363
        Mr P
        Participant

        film on rumble sans “sign-in” fink aspect of YT>

        October 7 Was An Inside Job – documentary (2024) by John Hankey #RealHistoryChannel

    • #43367
      Mr P
      Participant

      FEMA money to aliens

      Ahdoanrekon it goes to Mars, wait!, it depends! The god of war? Or the planet?

    • #43368
      Mr P
      Participant

      Rumor, outta tricks, outta money, go to war and maybe cancel “election”?

      excerpt>  received notice late Sunday from an informant in commercial aviation, with connections to military aviation, that a massive deployment of aircraft is preparing logistics for a major operation set to go down in about a week, probably in the Middle East. I can’t guarantee you that it is for real, but it was a real warning message, at least, from a serious person, and you know that something could be up. . . some humdinger of an October Surprise, like a big fat world war. What else have they got now?

      https://www.zerohedge.com/political/theyre-plum-out-tricks-and-they-know-it

       

    • #43371
      Mr P
      Participant

      Rich fellas may play politics, not me. I have no political opinions whatsoever, merely a witness to the freak show, an’ ahwanna stay that way…if ahkin.

      Two rich fellas…somebody said the witch, type H, is on the diddy freakout tapes in a bloody and bizarre unspeakable horror… and that FBI has the tape.  Maybe so… 

      Tucker Carlson on X: “Elon Musk is all in. (0:00) Elon Musk Is All in on Donald Trump (6:35) Providing Starlink to Victims of Hurricane Helene (9:22) If Trump Loses, This Is the Last Election (21:49) The Epstein and Diddy Client List (33:38) Vaccines (35:49) The Movement to Decriminalize Crime https://t.co/jNqB1ThqQz” / X

      https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1843375397024485778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1843375397024485778%7Ctwgr%5Ee56b539291c1e29c9fff19bcd851b6661d234176%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Fif-he-loses-im-fked-musk-and-tucker-carlson-sit-down-must-watch-interview

      • #43390
        AHH
        Blocked

        I wonder if Mr. Tesla was on the Epstein menu, back in the day?? It is curious how all public photos only contain girls. We know how the pedos really roll.

        He has that blank, Manchurian-candidate look — wiped clean inside, with the suitable personalities on standby. Alotta childhood “conditioning.” Not all there at all!

        And we also know the deep state doesn’t hand over crown jewels like Starlink or remote-controlled electric vehicle deathtraps to any with the slightest spark or maneuver room

        • #43391
          Mr P
          Participant

          They’re both weirdos.

          I do see Musk, as he says of himself, “an engineer”. These types often fail English 1A, composition. I have listened to them complain about it as much harder than calculus…huh? Yup. The long TC/Musk chat was, just barely, interesting.  I don’t think M rolls to the freaky pervert side. But I do think he lacks compassion, substitutes logic for empathy, a “patch”, compensation, as he understands it’s necessary even though he does not feel it much.

    • #43372
      Mr P
      Participant

      Sochi no-go? https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-halts-visits-his-sochi-residence-fearing-drone-attacks-report

      Take with salt, but how was it demolished? Moscow times is not imho reliable… and I recall the cadaver sayin “this man cannot remain in power”… 

       

    • #43386
      Mr P
      Participant

      AHH at 43378 (apocalypse) concludes> “So it’s agreed, it’s for next Sunday…”  (13 October) Yeah, I would not disagree, gotta happen sometime, and the indications speak loud…but note the coincidental Saturday 12 Oct pow-wow at occupation zone R

      Whatever the reality may be of an Iranian physics ‘speriment, or earthquake. it’s quite clear that a manufactured story to create consent among the nazi-ruled zone is ongoing, based in part on fear.

      While the nazis say the pow-wow is about 404, well, 404 is one of several coordinated “fronts” or campaigns, Palestine and Iran (and zone T, Taiwan) are another…but they have the same organizing HQ, The same goal of domination, and naturally the war plan discussion can “go off topic”, eh? Meantime the murkiz will be transfixed with weather and storm, Florida and North Carolina and whatever…lookin’ at the birdie, so to say.

      Leaders of Britain, US, France, Germany to meet in Berlin on October 12 — source – World – TASS

      excerpt>

      BERLIN, October 8. /TASS/. The leaders of Britain, Germany, the United States and France will gather for talks in Berlin on October 12 before a meeting of the contact group on military assistance to Ukraine (Ramstein format), a source in the German government has told the media.

      Consultations by British Prime Minister Keir Starmer, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, US President Joe Biden and French President Emmanuel Macron will focus on the Ukrainian conflict and the situation in the Middle East. The Quartet will then move from Berlin to Ramstein [sic] air base for a meeting on Ukraine.

      and so on… I wonder if Comrade Medvedev would like to see zone R on his personal list of preferred targets. You know, opportunities an’ all that…and two can play, eh?

      https://tass.com/world/1853517

      • #43392
        Mr P
        Participant

        Intel Slava Z
        🇺🇸 🇺🇦Biden has canceled a trip to Germany where he was supposed to discuss with Zelensky, Macron and Scholz permission for long-range strikes deep into Russian territory.

        The official reason given is an approaching hurricane that threatens Florida.

        Florida? 

    • #43396
      Mr P
      Participant

      evidence poof zion wall cams

    • #43400
      Mr P
      Participant

      Nima and Doctrow “we are witnessing the self-destruction of Israel”

    • #43404
      AHH
      Blocked

      Yeah, Biden canceling that trip does not bode well for this upcoming weekend. Another metric. And more betrayal of the hapless Euros — permission to suicide against Russkie shall be given, but but but .. thanks fellas! You’re own your own.

      Too bad Bad Old Russkie doesn’t differentiate between accomplices to the coming crimes. But Anglos cannot delay any further. The Moshiach needs to be birthed, and Zion is on the edge

      ~~~

      I was not being flippant about Musk. He is very abnormal. Damaged goods at the least. Likely occult bloodline spawn, and they raise their own through sadistic trauma.

      I saw alotta disturbing things about him during covid, when I last really investigated these things. In the satanic secret societies, he was touted as Trump’s “Red Horse Rider.” More biblical mockery!

      As the Four Riders of Revelation fame bring such affliction to mankind, the criminals pay tribute through their caricatures. I forget who two of the others were, but the black rapper Kanye West was the black horse and this Musk the red horse. Note the color most associated with his cars and his armor too. It is so in your face

      ☝️☝️Here’s some recent Hollywierd movies that show the four “riders” accompanying the Apocalypse. Note the importance of the letter “X” to these creatures, and who was entrusted to front it. Everything’s demented numerology or biblical mockery with these types. One trick ponies…

      https://survivalmagazine.org/news/elon-musk-wears-costume-with-baphomet-and-inverted-cross-for-halloween/

      • #43405
        Mr P
        Participant

        I can’t imagine AHH ever being flippant. Same for me. Neither can I imagine wearing such a costume. Or politely, even jovially, associating with the people he associates with, according to the TC/M confab video. That said, I know nothing about the guy, about his origin, his class origin, parents, education. (I have a Marxist attitude, I suppose, most people don’t change their class…hence I wonder about his origin. (Jay Leno I’d trust, marginally. Or my imaginary “Stumpy the bookie” what you see is what’s there. (Stumpy is based on an old Jewish bookie in Hollywood, for whom I worked, briefly)) And I can’t imagine trusting Musk, save the way we trust everybody, that’s to say they will follow their star – according to their character, which may be secret or not, known or not. I deeply distrust people with too much money, too much power, and too much ambition to have power and wealth. Like Ray Charles said, “can’t eat but one steak a day, what do I want more for?” or words to that effect. Of Musk, well, I defer to your opinion, you studied him and I didn’t. I can only add that I recognize the engineer…and the characteristic limits of the engineer. The Term which may have deeper meaning than the term for guys who do static calcs on bridges 😉 Recalling the disturbing phrase “engineer of the soul”…

        • #43409
          AHH
          Blocked

          “I can’t imagine AHH ever being flippant.”

          Ah! Did i sense through the aether that twinkle in the eye and dry chuckle?? I confess I’m flippant ONLY half the time. And perhaps another 25% of the time so thick in hyperbole even I can get lost, like trying to read my own fast handwriting.

          What is being done to the US South?!!! No natural subdivision of the US is so hated by the bilious neo-Puritans and zionazis than the Rebels. And with things about to seriously fall apart, they may be getting in their punch first. Those serial hurricanes ..

          many say “driven.” Absolute perfidy. This is the most martial and socially organized part of the country. Tight-knit huge extended families. Mostly kept impoverished and dumbed down too, but they have long memories, never forgave the Yanks and intend to free themselves like the Palestinians

    • #43420
      Mr P
      Participant

      Previously I posted some links to some films on the assassinations.

      One was > The Assassination of John F Kennedy | Full Documentary – YouTube,  Which is an early film, and not terribly useful.

      Here are better films, more accurate>

      https://archive.org/details/theassassinationofjfkjr

      which refers to:

      https://archive.org/details/121119jfkiithebushconnection

      These above tie up some loose ends…It’s about the nazis…and he calles ’em nazis straight up and frankly.  It’s especially interesting that in these documentaries he links the American nazis to the German ones…yup, the ones from the 1930’s and 40’s…it’s obvious that these nazis are in power and persuing the same old agenda of world domination.

      Speaking of nazis, we have two war campaigns featuring nazis, on in zone 404, and another in zone P

      I also posted October 7 Was An Inside Job – documentary (2024) by John Hankey #RealHistoryChannel

      found at>

      • #43424
        Mr P
        Participant

        In video on JFKjr he leaves out motive, though we can easily understand it, as G Dubya (43) would not have gotten “elected” if JFKjr had lived, and then 911, well underway already, could not have had the necessary cover-up …and the rest. Such as the Enabling Act, etc. As it was, I recall they threatened Gore and even then the “election” was “decided” by one vote in the Supreme Court. Even so, the evidence of nanothermite in the dust in NYC was conclusive.

    • #43425
      Mr P
      Participant

      Blinkie “authorised” his nazi pals to bomb aid trucks in zone Gaza…

       

    • #43426
      Mr P
      Participant

       

      Special nazi Event pending this week or this week-end? another dime drops…

      Pentagon confirms Gallant’s office canceled meeting with Austin – Israel News – The Jerusalem Post

      The Pentagon confirmed on Tuesday afternoon that Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant’s office canceled his anticipated trip to Washington ahead of his scheduled meeting on Wednesday with Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin.

      “We were just informed that Minister Gallant will be postponing his trip to Washington, DC. Secretary Austin looks forward to seeing him soon,” Deputy Press Secretary Sabrina Singh told reporters.

      While acknowledging reports that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered Gallant to cancel his trip, Singh did not offer an explanation for the postponement of the trip and refused to engage as she said in “Israeli politics.”

      https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-823815

      and

      https://www.reuters.com/world/israels-defense-minister-gallant-postpones-visit-washington-pentagon-says-2024-10-08/

    • #43434
      Mr P
      Participant

      https://sadefenza.blogspot.com/2024/10/what-do-arab-countries-think-of-us.html?m=1

      Palestinian commie, interview… (Y’all understand ahgots a soft spot fer da commies…my bold)

      “…..Why did you open this alternative channel of communication that is dedicated to providing global information about the Middle East? What difficulties have you been facing, mainly in your information work? What risks have you incurred so far? Can you tell us something about yourself?

      «I started translating local news to a few channels I was following on Telegram since the start of the Ukraine operation. A lot of local news was not being talked about at all, before the whole world started to follow Palestine and educate themselves – from then on, almost all local news was getting global attention, which was the initial goal. Apart from that, I had very controversial, complex and individual theories and analyses of the current genocide since the start (I wouldn’t like to mention exactly what they are, as now they’re not relevant); after publishing a lot of them on other channels, I decided to create my own because not everything I was sending was being published. In terms of risk, everything is on the line, even having telegram installed on your phone is very dangerous. I can’t tell you anything about myself».

      What is the current situation in the Middle East? Israel has launched attacks against Iran, Lebanon, and even Syria. But no attack could have happened with the support of Western powers. Who are the main allies of Israel’s terrorist and occupying entity? Can you confirm that special groups from France, the United Kingdom, the United States, and Germany participated in the various attacks?

      «What is happening in Palestine is not separate from Ukraine, Taiwan, Central Africa, or any other place of “conflict” in the world—the United States is collapsing, economically, militarily, culturally, and in all aspects, this is no secret. Empires rise and fall, and nothing ever stops this historical phenomenon. We are witnessing the death of an empire, and RT favour to describe it, and the empire is doing everything it can in order to extend its dominance for the maximum possible time. The Zionist colony is America’s most essential asset in the world, and over the past 30 years, it has been losing the power balance against the Axis of Resistance. As we can see today, the balance is on the side of the Axis by a far margin – so what would have been the case in even 5 more years? Much worse for the Zionists, and thus, they needed the last attempt to uncover the technological advancement of Iran and its allies and see if they could stop it in any way. The answer is no, and that is why no matter what decision “Israel” makes, it cannot stop its demise. If it were an external colonization, like France in Algeria, it would have ended long ago; but our colonization, as martyr Sayyed Nasrallah called it, is a cancerous tumor, mixed within and inside the region, and needs to be extracted in a “surgical” way. This is the only reason it still exists, and the plan was to wait for the complete collapse of the US (because Israel never won a war without them), in which case it would vanish and collapse from the inside. Israel knew this, and decided to ignite the region and destroy parties of the Axis, but they are one defeat away from collapsing (the defeat in the form of a ceasefire – and thus, the never-ending genocidal rampage to extend the war as long as possible).

      In terms of NATO mercenaries, there is scattered evidence everywhere that they took part.

      However, what nobody expected was that they would be crushed so fast in Gaza – now, there is probably a very few percentage left. Out of memory, I remember an American official admitting that US mercenaries arrived in Gaza and “were blasted to pieces in the first two weeks”, a Spanish mercenary who was interviewed and talked about his salary and duties, and some flags of Kurdistan hung in Gaza, in addition to solidarity with Ukraine by Zionist soldiers in Gaza».

      The rhetoric used by NATO and Israel in the Western world goes against all logic. They accuse Russia, Lebanon and Palestine of being terrorist countries but spend no words condemning Israel. The Middle East countries have the support of the multipolar community and access to even classified information. Can you confirm that there are Israeli agents in Europe ready to provoke attacks if the European NATO countries do not give them the necessary support?

      «NATO is simply the alliance of the elites of historical colonial powers, the first people who dominated the whole world, and lost it again, retreating back to what is now left of it, which we call NATO. They’ve always been in total control of their countries/governments, although the geography has been dynamic in the past century (losing countries, gaining them again, etc.) That’s to say: all NATO powers are one family, and have the single common interest of maintaining domination over the world. The CIA, Mossad and all NATO intelligence are all part of what we call the West, and it’s as simple as that. Thus, it’s more practical to think of the US, Europe, Israel, and all Western states or their satellite states as one country. Historically, borders were never geographic, but determined by power and influence (wherever the king has influence, it’s part of his kingdom).

      That’s why the best description of the world order is, as you said, the multi-polar world vs the collective West; these are the two countries that exist in the world. (All of this answers your question: the Mossad exists in, belongs to, and is a citizen of all NATO states – it is the supreme intelligence of local intelligences)».

      There was a lot of buzz about the Israeli terrorist attack on Hezbollah’s pagers, cell phones and computers. The Western media were immediately active at the same time in saying that explosive charges had been placed in the pagers, but we at Sa Defenza have discovered that it is possible to remotely detonate a technological device via hacking attack, with evidence dating as far back as 2007 and coming from the experts at the U.S. National Security Agency themselves. What was the comment coming from Middle Eastern sources on this?

      «I’m not at all an expert in military capabilities. But this is what I have to say about the pager attack: what was hurtful more than the attack was the (pre-prepared) media campaign that followed it. The pagers didn’t touch 1% of the military’s capabilities, and it was a very improvised attack that was only conceived and planned within a few months. It was meant to send many fake messages: 1. The Zionist intelligence has much more, is capable of anything, and hasn’t even started (many people felt like this soon after, especially after the assassinations); the reality is that it was pure terrorism, and not at all an infiltration. 2. There was a plan set for decades to carry out something like this; the reality is that if “Israel” had this planned, they would have used it much earlier in the war, not after reaching the edge of desperation. 3. The resistance is weak and can be destroyed with one button (again, many people felt like that, but the momentary ecstasy fades within only a few days each time throughout the whole war). Of course, my obvious comment would be: read what the Hebrew media writes, and think that “it’s probably the absolute opposite”. “Intimidation is that last weapon in the hands of a collapsing empire” – I don’t know who said that».

      Are they aware in the countries of the Middle East that the West is ruled by an elite who are part of NATO, totally degenerate, who think in esoteric terms, and who are being conviolated in scandals concerning pedophilia and child trafficking (Hunter Bide/Macron)? At what level in the Middle East are they aware of this? Or what do they comment on it?

      «The Middle East, or, let me specify, Arabs, is a culture of identity. Arabia/The Levant is the area connecting the whole world; Arabs know and are curious about everything in all cultures of the world, we see the world as “Us and Not Us” (but never in a Nazi-onalist way). That is to say, the Arab personality has been known for the same characteristics since “Jahili” times, such as pride, fidelity, honor, and most importantly: collectivity. The most profound essence of an Arab is that he is social, and can exist in no other form – social bond is the highest value in, let’s say, Middle Eastern cultures. And thus, all these things you mentioned, sexual perversions, degeneracy, individualism, anything Western, will never make its way into Arab societies or be accepted, no matter how fierce the propaganda (The day in which sponsorship of such propaganda ends, it collapses in moments). Arabs are completely aware of the degeneracy of neo-Western cultures, and never in history have they given any value or importance to Europe (which was basically the whole West until colonial expansion); we considered them inferior, for understandable reasons – facts and not opinions, and there was never any curiosity about their culture. And to top it all: Western sponsorship of Islamic radicalism for over 2 centuries has eventually made cultural colonization impossible (of course, it’s possible to exercise total power in a dystopian, unipolar world, but the moment it begins to weaken, fundamentalism will rise again like a rabid dog… but this is all just theoretical)»……”

      Palestinian Commie

    • #43461
      Mr P
      Participant

      https://www.rt.com/news/605440-pdiddy-scandal-zakharova-journalism/

      Wow! Right on! How spell “blackmail club”? 

    • #43490
      Mr P
      Participant

      Lt Cmdr Bob Woodward of US Naval Intelligence, who was a key figure in the “Silent Coup” that removed Nixon, has a new book…about the Trumpster, gee whiz, whodathunk?

      https://www.malone.news/p/bob-woodward-black-propaganda-and

      “USA Today reported Woodward’s writings as factual – but doesn’t mention that Woodward’s hit job on Trump doesn’t cite the actual sources, and specific dates are not included. The truth is that Bob Woodward’s accounts are hearsay, as he doesn’t include any verifiable citations.”

      Calling smear.

      Here are some direct quotes about “War,” by Bob Woodward

      “Woodward reports that Trump asked an aide to leave his office at his Florida resort, Mar-a-Lago, so that the former president could have a private call with Putin in early 2024. The aide, whom Woodward doesn’t name… (Associated Press, Oct 9, 2024).
      Woodward also cites an unnamed Trump aide who indicated the Republican leader may have spoken to Putin up to seven times since leaving the White House in 2021 (France 24, Oct 9, 2024).
      Woodward’s book, titled “War,” raises new questions about the relationship between Trump and Putin, a top U.S. adversary, one month before the Nov. 5 election between Trump, the 2024 Republican nominee, and Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris.

      While he was still president, Trump secretly shipped Putin COVID-19 testing machines when such testing was rare, Woodward reports in the book, a copy of which was obtained by USA TODAY in advance of an Oct. 15 release. USA Today, Oct 8, 2024).”

    • #43493
      AHH
      Blocked

      It gets queerer and queerer in Perfide


      Pay attention to the lyrics, and Tommy boy’s interactions with the accommodating coppers…

      The Epstein, Penn State, or Reagan-Bush-Congressional White House pedophile rings appear mere tips of the iceberg. Concentric rings within countless Concentric rings. Even older ones in Europe! The template of supranational satanic secret society control of the entire Western apparatchiks and all its worldwide appendages.

      Who will bat an eye at depopulating 90%, or all brown Palestinians in hi-def live-streaming, after what was experienced and documented in the boudoir? Will Russkie share more sumptuous tidbits?? Come on, what’s to lose now! We got an Old Order to torch together ❤️

      💠 @DDGeopolitics:
      ⭕ ❗Maria Zakharova:

      “The idols of American show business have collapsed and continue to collapse, dragging neoliberal values into the abyss with them.

      Producer and long-time proponent of advanced liberalism Sean Combs, known under the pseudonym P.Diddy, has been under arrest for 3 weeks.

      The list of charges against P.Diddy includes:
      – racketeering;
      – corruption of minors;
      – human trafficking;
      – sale of prohibited drugs;
      – giving bribes;
      – sexual exploitation.

      It’s funny and scary: a showbiz bigwig was accused of all the sins of modern America, which its political establishment has camouflaged as a new normal.

      For many years, “P.Diddy’s white parties” were the place where everyone wanted to go in American show business. Not all Hollywood stars had to go through face control. Participation in crimes of this level was reserved for the exceptional. Talking about what really happened there was strictly forbidden.

      Now it’s clear why.

      👉 To do this, it is enough to open an official charge with the federal prosecutor’s office in New York.

      For decades, the most vile crimes were committed in full view of everyone at these Combs-organized parties.

      And this is apparently only the tip of the iceberg. The worst thing is underwater – pedophilia, the corruption of children. The corruption of minors did not happen in one go, these demons from the elites abused their victims for years.

      And now for the most interesting part. It’s an amazing coincidence, but the participants of these orgies regularly worked on the mainstream agenda, including the international one 👇

      – Here TV star Khloe Kardashian says that it is a custom to walk around naked at “white parties” behind closed doors, and her sister Kim supports the unrest in Armenia.

      – Here is actor Ashton Kutcher posing with P.Daddy before the start of the “white party”, and here he is advocating for tougher sanctions against Russia and condemnation of Moscow.

      – Here the British singer Kelly Osbourne is getting close to the organizer of the Sabbaths, and here she is advocating for Kiev neo-Nazis.

      – Why would American model Paris Hilton even decide to support the opposition in Venezuela? She can hardly even find this country on a map. Naturally, she is also a regular at “white parties”.

      American experts who have started talking together believe that everything that happened was recorded. Thus, for years an “elite network” was created for disseminating any information to manipulate public opinion.

      More about what happened at the “white parties”

      Now the question is: maybe Washington, supposedly concerned about the fate of Ukrainian children, should finally take care of its own? File lawsuits against themselves, against the state authorities who could not help but know about what had been going on for decades at these pedophile get-togethers?

      All of America knew about these “parties”. They were discussed so widely that they became memes. A unique situation: everyone talked, but kept quiet about the main thing.

      Now it is clear where the American deep state gets its fascination with foreign policy, where the accusations against mythical Russian hackers, the “hand” of the Kremlin, interference in elections, support for impostors around the world, involvement in the Ukrainian agenda come from: all this is a smokescreen, a distraction from the bottomless decline of a society whose elite rapes children…

      The scumbag is now in jail. His lawyers have had Combs’ cell fitted with video surveillance because everyone remembers what happened to another British royal family pal and party planner, American financier Jeffrey Epstein, who was found asphyxiated on the floor of his cell.

      And here’s the icing on the cake: Sean Combs interviews young Illinois Senate candidate Barack Obama in 2004. In the archival footage, the producer tells Obama he “will be president of the United States.” Obama smiles at this, perhaps unaware that he will actually be elected to the highest office in the country in 2008.”

      🎙Subscribe @AussieCossack  |media|

    • #43496
      Mr P
      Participant

      Diddy…how long to find a double to whack so he can be sprung and “debriefed”, thence to the mob crematorium where they do disposal? He can sleep with Jeffery…

      We hear stories about “young blood” drained or tapped from kids to extend youth in the devil-monsters…speaking of the disappeared kiddies. Even long ago Heinlein wrote of this in SciFi. And in W2 the nazis drained the untermenschen kids for blood for the troops.

      …………………..

      Kansas? Bleeding Kansas? Oh! Dorothy! 

      Intel Slava Z
      0:32
      🇺🇸Some professor from the University of Kansas said that there are some men who believe that a female president will not be able to govern the country, so they refuse to vote for Kamala Harris, and such men should be shot because they do not understand how the world works.
      9.8Kviewsedited  10:38

      What would Greatgrandpa say? 

    • #43610
      Mr P
      Participant

      Comrades Pepe (in Moscow at midnight!) and Napolitano

       

       

    • #43617
      Mr P
      Participant

      https://www.state.gov/public-schedule-october-10-2024/

      I wonder when was the last time the briefing was cancelled. 

      “BRIEFING SCHEDULE”
      “No Department Press Briefing”

      Maybe something is up. I wonder what…

    • #43665
      Mr P
      Participant

      Not that it probably matters, but I have trouble with the oft-repeated phrase “self-defense”.

      Let’s play… “After school in 1956 Larry chased a frightened Jimmy past the flag pole and caught him, and beat Jimmy badly. In 1974 Larry walked into a bar in ‘Frisco. Jimmy was the bar-tender. Recognizing Larry, Jimmy pull the shotgun out from behind the bar and used it to kill Larry.  Jimmy claims self-defense. We can be sure that Larry never again hit Jimmy or anybody else.

      The story can be re-played in other ways. When is tit for tat “self-defense”, or is it ever? How is this different from fighting a duel? And so forth.

      When is vengeance and/or reprisal, “self-defense”, if ever?

      If an attack is likely to result in a counter attack, is it logical to see it as “self-defense”?

      These and similar considerations all rush to mind every time I hear the phrase “self-defense”, which I suspect has no semantic value beyond immediate and actual defense. That’s to say the popular usage of this phrase has become a rhetorical refuge in the arena of emotion.

      Stumpy-the-book remarked> “It’s too bad that Jimmy didn’t run faster in 1956, or know how to use his knife to stop Larry in 1956.”

       

      • #43794
        amarynth
        Keymaster

        Everything is politicized.

    • #43666
      Mr P
      Participant

      Ted Postol and Davis chat about rockets – which, I suppose, dove-tails to the questions I mooted above..

       

      • #43795
        amarynth
        Keymaster

        Thanks for this Mr P.  I did of course not even try to follow the math but the few points that came up are good to know, i.e., lots and lots of artillery to take something out.  That is why I felt that Iran did not reach any kind of deterrence with their attack.

        Here now is what is knocking me for a six this morning.  I just posted in the Daily Chronicles:

        The empire has chosen its war – Abandoning Ukraine and choosing  Near East West Asia.

        Hebrew media: 100 US Marines will be deployed to Israel to prepare new defense systems.  (It will be more of course and this allows us to see the trajectory – israel first).

        So, the US is in there, boots on the ground.  This thing is going to go out of control before we can say Jack Robinson.

        There is also this:  https://sputnikglobe.com/20241013/idf-halts-beirut-air-strikes-after-bidens-call-but-southern-lebanon-still-under-fire-1120535210.html

        They want Iran.  And, then they will get Russia – think of that agreement between Russia and Iran, that will be inked at BRICS.

         

        • #43797
          Mr P
          Participant

          You’re welcome dear, some times I find a goodun.

          About the murkinboys going ashore in “Israel”… I believe a gang of “special forces” came in some months ago over the “floating pier” – intent on some crime spree. I heard that the resistance fellas killed them all immediately. Special treatment for a special target, so to say. All of this makes me very sad, even though it seems inevitable, somewhere between eschatological and MacKinder’s apt and perceptive, even if unstated, anglosaxon character.

          It’s not all of us you know, we’re not all pirate-minded. Melville and Mark Twain and millions of us saw it coming and tried to warn, forstall. When my navy pal, whom I quoted below, described it as “what we do”, it was not with relish, but sadness…his view matches Smedley Butler’s…mind our country and no others, no navy past a coast guard, no standing army, sound currency, stable fair government beholdin’ to the people and the law. Alas, now it’s far too late. They will burn America to rule the ashes.

    • #43713
      Mr P
      Participant

      How do American sheep feel about…

      Well, a USN combat vet pal recently and frankly, summed it up succinctly: “It’s what we do, we always have.”

      video https://youtu.be/xhuuYg_1bm8?t=6

       

    • #43757
      Mr P
      Participant

      Of course I have no illusions about the entertainment division in naziland, but I am interested in story, like Papa Hemingway listening to yarns in Cuban or Key West bars. Hence this here story, evidently the true story, from a really sharp lady lawyer who knows her stuff, (ah knows ’em when ah seez ’em) all about the slut….the part where she describes the odd change in karmello ? Well ah reckonz the slut has taken to pills and alcohol, as she’s way over her head, drowning, in a sense. It’s a long tale they spin – almost an hour and a half. Harmeet Dhillon Breaks Down Kamala Harris’s Entire Career History

      Ahfellerkainthardlymakedisstuffup.

      https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-show-harmeet-dhillon

    • #43791
      Mr P
      Participant

      Speaking of stories…and creeps….                  Ivor Cummins on X: “Probably the most important #BillGates video you will ever see. Maybe the most important full stop. I am serious here – if everyone knew about this, many of our modern issues would be resolved. This is so important it defies definition:https://t.co/N9dMqKlTSv” / X

      https://x.com/FatEmperor/status/1844148188355363061

       

       

    • #43793
      Mr P
      Participant

      Some people say that the USSR “collapsed”, as if no one did anything, as if by magic it just happened. Some people smiled with cunning greed, others were appalled, some even said, impolitely, it was treason. A few saw the future, and the cure…

    • #43807
      amarynth
      Keymaster

      Scott Ritter is very excited. I don’t know if the S400 and Russian Pilots are correct but if it is? I also – the analysis shows it – that the US wants Iran. We need to stop thinking Israel/US. It is one cat. I like Michael Hudson’s term, israel is the cat’s paw. So, they want Iran – and they can’t. So, Scott’s story? I don’t know. Overall, I think this is part of it.

      • #43814
        Mr P
        Participant

        Indeed, it’s the war for the world, and for the anglosaxon empire (and the ROW) it is existential – the forward base people call Israel is essentially, in the realpolitik sense, a con-job. Many Israeli are deceived and also many western people too.  The British curation itself, with which the zionists were “blessed” was always about inserting a dagger into the peoples of the Levant, and it still is. Let us recall that the zionist project comes from Europe, not from the Semitic peoples of the Levant. All of which is to say yes, there is one aggressor, let’s say a dog (coyote 😉 )with a tail. The tail wags the dog to some extent, but the head of the dog decides where the tail is going! 😉

        Professor Doctor Postal left me with questions. The relative inaccuracy of the ballistic missiles he makes a cogent case for, I can’t quibble. Well, yes I can, a little – they’re not ballistic if they fly in the atmosphere, not strictly speaking anyway…wind at launch is an especially significant influence…. withal I would ask if the Iranian missiles’ accuracy can be improved…for example by adding Russian techniques, or by active course correction via a Russian AWAC aircraft, or Russian satellite…we know there’s intense cooperation. I assume that’s on-going. Personally I think Iran sent something less than their best, deliberately. Recalling Sun Tsu “all war is based on deception”.  So my reply or question to Postol is what comes next in rockets? I’m sure the fellas are working double time to arrange it.

        FWIW I think that optical homing is pretty cheap these days, image recognition. I think that’s an add-on we may see. It ought to be unjammable too. The US used optical on nuclear cruise missiles in 1960, and fielded it at Okinawa in 1962. Without integrated circuits!

        Ritter is excited, yes, and hyperbolic…it’s his character to be that way. I don’t quite agree with his saying Nutty can’t do anything. He also can’t back down. He has to attack, ultimately it’s political, ideological, not military considerations… by attacking Iran and getting whupped, if he does get whupped, he may mousetrap his nazi sponsors into attacking Iran… losing a battle to get the murkinz to attack Iran directly. And the more murkin boys get killed, in Nutty’s view, the stronger the political force in nazi HQ zone Potomac to induce the nazi regime to blast Iran…which is after all, a prime goal of the nazi gang running zone Potomac.  Ritter fails by not accounting for the tail being attached to the dog.  It’s the dog that’s attacking, not the tail.

         

         

    • #43816
      Grieved
      Participant

      Joti Brar gave a new interview yesterday, this time with Russian commentator Katerina Kirbireva. She brings the sanity of Marxist-Leninist analysis to the current situation, offering the only perspective that has ever made sense of things completely:

      Also available at TG: https://t.me/KirbirevaKaterina/2781

      I’ve been missing her at Garland’s place, but stumbled across this just now at her own Communists website, of all places 😉

      I’ve only just started watching it, and it’s her usual forceful excellence. She talks, apparently, about: “…whether China and Russia are imperialists and what is the main goal of their foreign policy, when will socialism be built in the PRC, why liberals are pretending to be red and what will happen to Russia if it starts to cooperate with the Americans. Joti also explained what their organization is fighting for and why life for the British is getting worse every year.”

      • #43824
        amarynth
        Keymaster

        Thanks Grieved. That is very excellent. We should try to make a transcript or at the least a summary of some of the encapsulations that she makes. I’m thinking of how to recognize fascism for example. Or the piece on Ukraine is excellent, just those few steps of how that country was changed.

        • #43857
          Mr P
          Participant

          Yes dear. Joti gives a first class talk! fwiw everything she says is right on imho. I recently said that the war will provide the conditions for VVP or whoever follows him to bring the Ruski bourgoise to heel, hopefully without shooting them. I am delighted to hear Joti speak of a neo-USSR. This too become available as a result of the war.

          Transcript> The url>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_r-rLtitus

          does provide a transcript. I copied it to save, as found, with timestamps.

          Best!

    • #43823
      Mr P
      Participant

      The Joti Brar link is very welcome dear Grieved!

      …………………………………..

      CrossTalk Bullhorns: Nuclear escalation? — RT CrossTalk

      Guest Tarik Cyril Amar opines, cogently, that if Iran is to “deter” Israel, it must “deter” the US, aka “the west”…and that the means by which this may be achieved is the creation of a nuclear bomb inventory combined with the means to place them on the US, and we assume also England.

      Essentially “Atticus’ rifle”, if we may put it that way…recalling To Kill a Mockingbird, and the killing of the rabid dog, tail and all the rest. If not entirely “rabid”, but merely diseased, let us hope, there will be no need to pull the trigger. Interestingly the NPT is also discussed…George Szamuely also cogently points out that the Treaty was from the beginning unrealistic. I myself see it as a cynical and transparent  attempt to maintain hegemony. These days nuclear explosives are within the grasp of even minor powers, even large capitalist corporation, as they build them already for some states.

      see also> https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/history/nth-country-experiment/

      https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/605644-israel-iran-nuclear-power/

       

    • #43831
      Mr P
      Participant

       

      Nein zu US-Raketenplänen! Nein zu Kriegen! Für Verhandlungen!

      (subtitle in translations are available)

    • #43835
      Mr P
      Participant

      Comrade Grossman’s latest bulletin from Berlin…

      TEETERING AND TEARS

      fragment> “…Swastikas and the like are also forbidden today, but their proponents and converts are everywhere. Many towns and villages, especially in disgruntled, disadvantaged, rebellious Eastern areas, are an easy prey for fascist ideas and fascist actions, with hardly disguised slogans sung at raucous concerts, shouted at soccer matches, chanted at body training or shooting clubs, and tolerated by prosecutors, police, judges, mayors – out of fear or favor….”

      fragment> [of der DDR] “…And yet, despite blunders and blemishes, how many wonders were achieved! Such basic ones: No joblessness, no shutting down of a department, factory or mine without an equal job for everyone. Equal pay for women and young employees, with half a year paid maternity leave and a paid “household” day every month. Free, undisputed abortions. For a limited monthly tax all medical and dental visits, with hospital stays 100% covered. Hearing aids, glasses, every prescribed test and medicine, four week spa cures, for recuperation or preventative – and never a pfennig required! Plus three-week paid vacations, often in lakeside or seaside trade union resort hotels….”

      I wish he was aware that the touted “October 7” affair was a stand back, let it happen, and then massacre their own people… see>

      Just like “9-11”    https://rumble.com/v4nn39k-october-7-was-an-inside-job-documentary-2024-by-john-hankey-realhistorychan.html

       

    • #43849
      Mr P
      Participant

      Waltz may have done some funny stuff with a 14 year old boy… https://theduran.locals.com/post/6227489/chuck-callesto-chuckcallesto-15h-breaking-report-tim-walz-accused-of-premediated-s-xual-a

      waltz accusation

      Evidently the kid’s an adult now, and the lawyers says he’s “going public”… Will Waltz sue for slander and libel? Defamation? A sworn affidavit is evidence, after all.

      https://theduran.locals.com/post/6227485/george-behizytweets-the-former-student-accusing-tim-walz-of-grooming-and-molesting-him-has-agre

      …………………….

      Larry Johnson : Can Ukraine Survive Until Election Day?  (good question!) Napolitano to-day.

    • #43858
      Mr P
      Participant

      J Brar transcript> (hope it’s not impolite to post such a long document, but it’s what I can do)

      0:09
      so the first question is um in Russia in connection with the war in Ukraine those
      0:14
      who consider themselves Marxist dispute a lot about which
      0:19
      countries can we call imperialist uh some argue that Russia is an imperialist country and it is at war
      0:27
      with the United States over Ukraine’s resources you know um that is we are in
      0:34
      the imperialist war where each side act says a predator and Ukraine turns out to
      0:41
      be a victim um could you please comment on the issue sure I think um there’s
      0:47
      several aspects to that question in terms of Ukraine maybe we’ll come on to
      0:52
      the question of Ukraine sovereignty a little bit afterwards uh but just simply looking at Russia to character it as
      1:00
      imperialist you would have to show that its economy is dominated by um Monopoly
      1:08
      Finance Capital which has outgrown its borders and which is ex essentially
      1:16
      serving markets abroad by exporting Capital investing in investment uh in
      1:22
      production abroad making super profits from that investment and bringing those super profits back home and essentially
      1:29
      that r Russian economy and Russian Society was living like a parasite on the world yes that Russian economy was
      1:36
      was less and less productive at home because it was Outsourcing its production to cheap countries abroad
      1:42
      that’s the the kind of Core Essence of an imperialist economy is that it’s Domination by a financial oligarchy uh
      1:50
      which has grown up out of capitalist development you know uh there’s a lot of confusion about Russian monopolies
      1:56
      because the monopolies that Russia has today are not the product of a
      2:02
      historical development of capitalism in Russia they’ve been taken over by capitalists to run for profit but they
      2:10
      are the development of Soviet building the construction of a planned economy so
      2:17
      of course a planned State economy builds monopolies right you don’t have competition in a planned economy so of
      2:23
      course the capitalists who took over running Russia after the counterrevolution they are running what
      2:29
      were formerly State monopolies for profit what’s quite interesting when you look at Russia Today is in order to face
      2:38
      the aggression of imperialism Western imperialism what have the Russians done to their economy to to strengthen it
      2:46
      they’ve started taking back into control elements of the economy which are needed
      2:51
      for Reliance self-reliance Independence for a strong uh response to imperialism
      2:57
      to be able to stand up to imperialist economic aggression they are starting to renationalize key sectors of the economy
      3:05
      or to give a lot of State funding and direction to key sectors of the economy right like agriculture which had been
      3:11
      kind of destroyed after the Soviet Union to a to a great extent compared to what it was yes uh so there’s there’s that
      3:18
      aspect you you simply cannot look at the Russian economy and say it lives by
      3:24
      leeching from the productive activity of workers elsewhere in the world Russia’s
      3:29
      Main uh trade with the rest of the world uh Main Financial interaction with the rest
      3:35
      of the world is not the export of capital in order to bring back super profits it’s the sale of Russian
      3:41
      Commodities which Russian workers extract and produce right so it’s simply
      3:48
      not right to characterize Russia’s economy as imperialist being a big
      3:53
      country is not proof of being imperialist this is this is very much a kind of um it’s how the imperialists
      4:01
      have twisted our understanding of imperialism they take advantage of the fact that most of us don’t actually
      4:07
      study Lenin don’t really know what imperialism is they take advantage of the fact that the masses in the world
      4:12
      have learned to hate imperialism and they point to countries which are big territorially and begin beginning to be
      4:20
      strong economically and able to resist them and they say look they’re they’re they’re big they’ve got a big military
      4:27
      that means they’re aggressive that means they’re imperialist but this is a total vulgarization really you know if you of
      4:34
      course being big has nothing to do with anything you know in fact the imperialist countries apart from the USA
      4:40
      tended to be quite small but they were politically and financially Advanced technologically advanced and able to
      4:46
      conquer vast backward territories in the world and enslave their people and and loot their resources that was the that
      4:53
      was the essence of the imperialist system that was set up by the Europeans the Americans slightly confused our
      4:59
      understanding of that because of course they’re a bigger territory with a bigger population and a bigger kind of ability
      5:05
      to produce you know simply by means of the size of their territory and their people they’re a big country so we’ve
      5:12
      come to view a big country with a big military as inherently bad and
      5:17
      aggressive because of how we perceive the United States of America but the Russia um has a big military again not
      5:26
      because it’s come out of a historic Drive to conquer the world but because
      5:31
      it’s the legacy of the Soviet Union why did the Soviet Union need a big strong technically Advanced military for
      5:40
      self-defense because socialist countries in an imperialist World cannot survive for one day if they can’t defend
      5:47
      themselves and that means they have to keep up and even go past the
      5:52
      technological and Military capabilities of the imperialists it’s the only way to survive that has been shown very clearly
      5:59
      by history of the last you know 110 years same when we look at China China was dominated and enslaved
      6:07
      you know by imperialism and the same thing in the course of their revolution of freeing themselves from imperialism
      6:14
      they have built a big strong technically Advanced military having a big military is not proof you’re an imperialist it’s
      6:21
      what you do with it what’s the function of your military is it defensive or offensive when we look at the USA we see
      6:28
      its bases all over the world world we see for example its bases ringing Russia
      6:33
      just that on its own shows you the the intent of the USA towards Russia it’s
      6:39
      not an accident they put their bases all around the outside of Russia it’s not an accident that they provoke regime chains
      6:46
      operations in every country bordering Russia trying to create a hostile and unstable environment trying to bring up
      6:53
      factors into play that will act inside Russia to bring about regime change now
      6:58
      with Ukraine Ukraine has for a hundred years and more been a target of various imperialist
      7:07
      Powers Britain Germany and the USA at different times took the lead in trying
      7:12
      to use a section of the Ukrainian population to turn Ukraine’s territory
      7:18
      into a launching pad for aggression against Russia the the desire to destroy
      7:23
      the Soviet Union and then Russia to break it into pieces loot its resources
      7:29
      and essentially colonize it has been a l held desire of the imperialist countries
      7:36
      and Ukraine was always seen as a key part of that and if we look at the the launch of the the Smo the special
      7:43
      military operation by Russia in 20122 many people in Russia who were
      7:48
      paying attention felt that that was a very late belated move to come to the
      7:54
      rescue of the people in the donbass the war didn’t start in February 22 I’m sure
      7:59
      I don’t need to tell that to your viewers The War Began with the coup in
      8:05
      20134 uh in K that was when Ukraine lost its sovereignty if ukrainians want to
      8:12
      regain their sovereignty it’s the USA they need to be fighting not Russia Russia came to defend ukrainians who
      8:19
      were standing up for their sovereignty or people in the you know the Russian part of Ukraine who were standing up for
      8:26
      sovereignty for themselves against a fascist West backed coup regime uh and
      8:32
      everything that that brought with it I absolutely agree with you and how do you feel about the concept of uh sub
      8:38
      imperialism it’s like the Pyramid of imperialism uh According to which almost
      8:44
      all countries are imperialist countries well again it makes a nonsense out of um
      8:51
      real Marxism what it does is try to create a formula by which you know when
      8:57
      I was in school I remember having a m teacher who taught me that there is a way where you can make 1.99 equal 2 and
      9:06
      by doing that actually you can make one equal two you know there’s a logical thing that you it’s like a trick okay
      9:12
      but it’s it’s that it’s a trick it doesn’t make one equal two just because I can show you in a logical sequence how
      9:18
      to make one equal two is one now two of course it isn’t now this thing with this theory of the of the pyramid what it
      9:25
      does is it takes some true things and then it kind of plays a trick says if this is true and this is true then this
      9:31
      must be true but it doesn’t prove it you know it kind of says okay learning said we’re now in the era of imperialism yep
      9:38
      true uh Lenin said that capitalism develops into Monopoly true right
      9:44
      therefore all capitalism today is Monopoly capitalism not true now they’ve
      9:49
      done that this plus this equals this they haven’t given any data that shows
      9:54
      that this that this is true they just say it and the thing is that
      10:00
      that will work with people who want to go along with the conclusions because
      10:05
      having said this they then go to a bunch of people and say Russia’s imperialist you know China’s imperialist you know
      10:12
      Brazil India well there are certain people who find those conclusions very comfortable in particular Communists in
      10:20
      the western world because if Russia’s imperialist then we don’t have to fight against our own imperialists Ward Drive
      10:28
      because it’s all justif ified or at the very least we’re neutral oh they’re as bad as each other this is nothing to do
      10:33
      with me don’t worry you workers nothing for you to do here stay at home we don’t have to mobilize you and have the
      10:40
      difficult job of facing our own ruling class which is going to come down on us right so you can see there’s a there’s a
      10:46
      there are reasons why people find this Theory comfortable and comforting uh
      10:52
      just so long as they don’t think too hard about it uh so what about China the
      10:57
      China isn’t imperialist country right no not at all as I was saying before you
      11:03
      know you can absolutely not make the argument that China is living as a parasite of the rest of the world it’s
      11:10
      quite clearly the opposite it’s Chinese uh workers who are making Goods for the
      11:16
      rest of the world uh certainly for the for the West you know Western economies are living like parasites from China
      11:24
      look in the west now our you know it’s more than a hundred years since Lenin wrote his book on imperialism when he
      11:30
      was writing he pointed to little areas in the west which had become totally parasitic where nobody did anything at
      11:36
      all that was productive like in certain counties in England or in the south of France or in um Switzerland he pointed
      11:43
      to little places and he said look at this trend how it’s developing now today living in Britain you are hard put to
      11:50
      find almost anybody doing anything productive but of course we’re still I’m still writing with pens on pieces of
      11:57
      paper I’m standing at my desk I’m using this computer I’m drinking my cup of tea out of a cup right all day every day I’m
      12:03
      using products that somebody made so if the people in Britain aren’t making them someone somewhere is making them right
      12:09
      and this shows you the relationship of the British economy to economies in the rest of the world the same thing you
      12:16
      know we look at our the the size of our economy why is it that a tiny country
      12:21
      like Britain tiny country with a tiny population and insignificant territory insignificant resources is in the sixth
      12:28
      or seven largest economies of the world largest economies what does it mean we don’t make anything we don’t have
      12:35
      anything we’re not exporting anything to the world what is it it’s because we have we are this historic home to a huge
      12:43
      pile of capital which constantly goes abroad to expand itself and repatriates
      12:49
      the profit the wealth sucks the wealth from the world and we increasingly even
      12:54
      the poor in our country live as parasites on the work the wealth that’s produced elsewhere in the world you
      13:01
      cannot possibly make that argument that that’s what China does that that’s how China’s economy Works nor can you say
      13:08
      that they are going around the world coercing militarily uh anybody you know
      13:13
      into uh some kind of enslaved dependent relationship you know none of that none
      13:19
      of that stands up to any scrutiny it’s simply an assertion that the ruling class uses and many people in the kind
      13:26
      of fake left parot it because it’s easy it’s much easier if you live in the west
      13:32
      and you want to be a bit Progressive to agree that you know China is imperialist
      13:37
      and that’s why we don’t support it rather than have to stand up against your own ruling class yeah in Russia
      13:44
      it’s often said that the Chinese policy in Africa is a sign of
      13:49
      imperialism um do you agree with it well you know I’ve spoken to many Africans about this and their experience is is
      13:57
      quite the reverse you know uh I remember speaking to uh of um an ambassador who
      14:03
      had been a Liberation fighter from Zimbabwe and he talked to me this was during the period of the Land Reform in
      14:10
      Zimbabwe when British imperialism was going crazy and making a lot of propaganda against the Zimbabwe and
      14:15
      government because they said we’re going to take our land back and we we’re tired of waiting for you British to facilitate
      14:21
      this process which you promised to do 30 years ago and still haven’t done right so they were going through a land reform
      14:26
      process and there was a lot of um they basically had to sever their relationship with the IMF so they’d had
      14:33
      a period after Liberation where they did all the things that respectable regimes are supposed to do right and they they
      14:40
      took loans from the IMF to help to help with their development and um this this
      14:45
      Ambassador said to me you know when the IMF came we got a Lo we got a big loan
      14:51
      but after the money was spent what we had was a lot of reports from a lot of
      14:57
      Consultants about how we might Electrify the country but we had no electricity
      15:03
      and a big debt he said when we broke that relationship with the IMF we discovered that electrification is not
      15:10
      that hard you need poles you need wires you know you need workers to put them up but you know
      15:16
      essentially this relationship with the west where they where they give you loans Lenin even described it actually
      15:23
      in imperialism it’s the same process they give you loans but the loans have conditions that you actually have to
      15:29
      spend the loan with companies from the country that loaned you the money so in the end you’ve got a big debt to service
      15:36
      all your money has been spent enriching the country that lent you the money in the first place you’re just you’re just
      15:41
      there paying interest forever you get nothing out of it the Chinese relationship with Africa is totally different if they make a loan the
      15:48
      interest rates are very low very often they scrap big parts of their loans if a country turns out it can’t really pay it
      15:55
      they’re not interested in sucking the wealth out of countries they’re interested in helping them to develop they transfer technology they don’t hold
      16:03
      on to technology and and charge the world a premium for access to it they Share technology they transfer it they
      16:10
      say oh we have some new methods of growing crops in this type of environment you might benefit from that
      16:17
      why don’t you try it they’ll they’ll say oh we can build a railway line for you and they really do it it’s not like they
      16:23
      promise to do it and you pay and get nothing if the Chinese say We’ll build you a port we’ll build your a a raway
      16:29
      line we build you a highway guess what or a hospital or a school or a university you get it you get it quickly
      16:35
      and your country starts to change so the experience of people of living in
      16:40
      countries where China has helped with development investment is things are changing and developing for the
      16:47
      better how do you see the future of China How likely is it to build
      16:53
      socialism there is it socialist country in your view or not well it’s a kind of
      16:59
      a a strange hybrid I would say uh my father I’m not the expert on China but
      17:05
      my father has done a lot of work on China and the Chinese economy he wrote a very excellent book hang on see if I got
      17:12
      a copy uh could you share the link with Mia yes I will do but I’ll just show you
      17:18
      the show you the book anyway it’s called socialism with Chinese characteristics the marketization of the Chinese economy
      17:25
      well you will you’ll get from the title there that um his researches Drew him to
      17:31
      the conclusion that to a large extent China’s economy has been marketized that
      17:36
      the planned economy is no longer the model uh of the Chinese uh State and
      17:43
      that this uh is something worrying and problematic for China because as soon as
      17:48
      you bring back the market and especially when it has so much sway over so many areas important areas of of production
      17:54
      and social life you are bringing back inequality unemployment corruption
      18:00
      crisis overproduction all these things come with capitalism and the the
      18:06
      interesting situation that China’s in is there hasn’t been a coup politically so
      18:12
      the Communist party is still in power the Communist party still bases itself very much in the masses has very strong
      18:19
      connections with the masses does everything it can to mitigate the worst
      18:25
      effects of the market on the people it’s our view that a a a proper planned
      18:30
      economy would be much stronger and more resilient and Le you know then you wouldn’t have to be constantly
      18:36
      mitigating the effects of the market but for now that’s the model that that China’s China’s taken my view is and my
      18:45
      party’s view is that in the end this model has to give there’s there’s no way
      18:53
      to get to full socialism and certainly not onto communism without abolishing the market so either the market forces
      19:00
      will create a Bourgeois that’s strong enough to seize political power and you will have a counterrevolution which is
      19:07
      what happened in the Soviet Union Market forces led to uh the the strengthening
      19:12
      of political forces which eventually were able to make a coup and you had the restoration of capitalism or the market
      19:19
      will be once more eliminated from the economy and they’ll be able to go into socialism right now you can see either
      19:25
      of those things happening and I would not like to predict of course I know which which I would I hope very much
      19:30
      happens and the reason that we um criticize the path that China’s on in a
      19:35
      comradely way is because we want the Chinese Revolution to be saved we want
      19:41
      the Chinese people to go forward to socialism we would not wish on the Chinese people what was what happened to
      19:46
      the Soviet people it’s a tragedy not just for them but for the whole world we all know what the world lost with the
      19:53
      Soviet Union Stalin said he predicted if the land of the Soviets is lost the
      19:59
      workers of the world will be seized by the throat that was what he said in an interview um I think back in the 1930s
      20:06
      and it’s exactly true in the 1990s the workers of the world were seized by the
      20:11
      throat and we have lost so much with the Soviet Union you know and we don’t need
      20:18
      another setback like that and especially right now we don’t need it when we consider that the imperialist world is
      20:25
      really on the Rocks they are weaker than they have ever been internally you know
      20:31
      economically politically militarily you know they’re being um outmaneuvered in
      20:37
      so many ways and outflanked by the rising kind of Anti-Imperialist world so
      20:43
      my hope is very much that the conditions of having to face down the imperialist
      20:48
      and the realization of what capitalism really looks like by looking at these enemies
      20:55
      that are flocking around you know Russia and China and trying to destroy them will strengthen the social forces that
      21:02
      want to keep China to the Socialist path tell you more when I read books about
      21:08
      China the Publications some articles I see that there are fiveyear plans uh
      21:14
      that they have not only economic development but also Al also Social
      21:19
      Development I mean like uh 800 million
      21:24
      people um was just bring from the power forward to yes for sure you know but for
      21:32
      example now I don’t like to denigrate you know it’s wonderful achievements of the Chinese party and it shows how much
      21:40
      how serious and and sincere they are about wanting to help the people but the fact is their economics are
      21:47
      confused and there’s a logic to that that can’t be escaped now the truth is
      21:53
      when Deng Deng shaing was not a great socialist he was a capitalist rodor and he minded you know the the some of the
      22:01
      great strides that had been made for the Chinese people yes they Unleashed all kinds of forces that were able to you
      22:08
      know make a lot of money quickly and develop industry very fast but it was all done on the basis of what the Chinese people had already done it
      22:15
      wasn’t like oh capitalism so clever it was like we’ve built an industrial base and now capitalist get to profit from it
      22:21
      you know the people had already done the hardest part in fact by the time Deng sha ping took over from maidong in I
      22:28
      think 79 maybe in terms of lifting people out of poverty you know the revolution did that in a in a far more
      22:36
      impressive way in the sense that the people in 1949 were in absolutely abject
      22:43
      and By 1979 their life expectancy had doubled and nobody was hungry now after
      22:49
      Deng shaing the iron rice bow they called it the guarantee that everybody has food the guarantee everyone has a
      22:55
      job the guarantee everyone has a home even if it’s really basic and everyone has education and everyone has healthare
      23:01
      and yes it was really really basic it wasn’t modern it wasn’t Advanced but it was for everybody that was broken and
      23:07
      China is still trying to catch up in some ways back to where it was now yes of course for many people for many many
      23:14
      people the standard of living has is is exponentially higher than it was then but it’s been very unequal there’s
      23:20
      billionaires in China and there are people still living in you know relative poverty now the Chinese government says
      23:27
      it wants to abandon that and you know and abolish that and I’m sure they’ll do what they can uh but there’s there’s big
      23:33
      problems you know they have unemployment you know a socialist society what’s it
      23:38
      doing with unemployed people they have um uh not just this rampant inequality
      23:44
      which of course is insane you know you don’t have billionaires in a in a proper planned economy but there are people
      23:50
      paying for the well people have to pay for their education people have to pay for hos hospital treatment and they’ve
      23:55
      got to you know they help the government subsidize that and tries to make sure it’s not too much but it’s a very
      24:01
      labyrinthine and slightly ridiculous system all because some of the health
      24:07
      care providers are making money you know none of this none of this
      24:12
      fits with building just just trying to build a socialist economy and it it
      24:18
      causes all kinds of um problems in social life you know they are generating
      24:24
      the basis for a counterrevolution simply with their economics they’re creating a Bourgeois
      24:31
      class which has an interest in reverting to capitalism so it can have unrestrained you know looting on the
      24:37
      market and those people will Ally themselves with the West you know and even the ones who don’t Ally with the
      24:43
      West will lie against socialism so you know the more of that you allow the more problems you create I know till now the
      24:51
      Chinese government has done an extremely good job of balancing all these problems
      24:57
      but that doesn’t mean they a recipe that’s going to work forever the contradictions will continue to grow and
      25:02
      there’s no way out of that you know you just have to study marks to understand that you have to read Capital to
      25:08
      understand it there’s no magic way to run Capital there’s no magic way to exploit the working class without
      25:15
      creating all of the problems of a capitalist Society uh and the question
      25:20
      tightly uh linked with the theme of imperialism is fascism do I understand
      25:26
      right that you rely on met of’s definition of fascism yes for sure so um
      25:33
      it’s our understanding that fascism is basically the naked dictatorship of the Bourgeois in a time of Crisis so at home
      25:42
      in the imperialist countries we’re talking about the abolition of bourgea democracy and its replacement by the
      25:48
      naked fist the naked dictatorship but there’s something else as well which I think can confuse the matter which is
      25:55
      that fascistic methods have always been exported by the imperialist ruling
      26:02
      classes abroad there they have always ruled with the with the Iron Fist and not the velvet glove right in their
      26:08
      colonies and increasingly around the world today and I think in fact it’s a
      26:14
      sign it’s a sign if you like of the weakness of imperialism it doesn’t feel
      26:19
      able to conduct its Wars abroad expeditionary Wars of Conquest right say
      26:25
      in Ukraine or in Syria or or wherever in in Palestine directly with its own
      26:33
      soldiers you know it was my it was my next question about their fascism for
      26:38
      export right so it’s people it’s people um would not be happy to go and be part
      26:45
      of the war machine in in in in uh in missions which are obviously aggressive
      26:51
      and territor and for territorial Conquest so the imperious are in a situation where they have to use proxy
      26:57
      forces and of course you know many imperialists have a lot of uh knowledge of doing this a lot of experience of
      27:03
      doing this the British in particular used proxy forces in the main for example to to conquer India but more and
      27:11
      more we see this pattern where in order to condition a population into becoming
      27:18
      your proxy soldiers you need to have an ideology that motivates them soldiers
      27:24
      need to feel they’re fighting for something they need to feel motivated and what the ruling class has found is
      27:30
      when you can you can get a population which is poor and in some way angry and
      27:36
      desperate and feed them an ideology which makes them feel
      27:42
      special and also tells them that another population is in the way of them
      27:48
      achieving some dream or other that you’ve ideologically told them that you know is their Destiny so you can see
      27:54
      that that’s how they made Isis Fighters you know uh you can see how that how they make zionists you know to fight in
      28:00
      the Middle East and that’s exactly what they did with the people of uh West Ukraine um Ukrainian nationalist
      28:06
      Ukrainian nationalism against Russians or the people in the east of the country and against Russia right that you you
      28:15
      ideologically you know um shape a population which is basically poor and
      28:21
      desperate and give it a whole load of weapons you know this the the shaping of
      28:27
      the Ukrainian nationalists into into fascists of course this is a long running project for a small section of
      28:34
      them but to expand it out took it was it was a big project wasn’t it you know you
      28:39
      had this you can see phases of it so you can see that during the Cold War there was a small number of banderites who
      28:46
      were like what’s the word evacuated to the west and taken care of and funded so
      28:53
      that they could um retain their what do they call them their customs their
      28:58
      Customs I.E practice and rehearse all of the Nazi ideology to which they had been
      29:05
      you know Affiliated during World War II and the and the 1930s so they take these people they say here you are have a have
      29:11
      a Social Club have some funding we’ll take care of you and it’s a kind of just in case thing now imperialism always
      29:17
      does this just in case thing for example the CIA pays the dalil Lama 200,000 a
      29:23
      year it’s probably more by now to live in India why just in case just in case they get the chance to send him back to
      29:28
      Tibet they got him ready and waiting so they were you know they do all this they do this just in case funding in lots of
      29:35
      places and it doesn’t always work out for them but in this case it did right when the Soviet Union uh came down
      29:42
      immediately started parachuting some of these people back into Ukraine and began this slow and steady process of um
      29:50
      creating a hostile environment against Russians and a friendly environment towards Ukrainian nationalism you know
      29:57
      step by step changing the customs and the culture of the country first of all
      30:02
      by rewriting the country’s history and then making that official you know they’d been doing that in Cold War kind
      30:09
      of Publications that not that many people paid attention to you know during the 70s 80s but then the 90s the 2000s
      30:17
      they start making museums in Ukraine about people’s history and then they start writing new textbooks for Ukraine
      30:24
      you know we Ukraine didn’t have one coup it had two remember 2004 there was the
      30:30
      coup and there were fascists in the street then and it was became clear what this project is about they want to turn
      30:37
      Ukraine into a battering ram against Russia and that means you got to condition some of the people to be your
      30:43
      soldiers and that’s exactly what we’ve seen how they use you know fascist ideologies to condition poor people to
      30:49
      be their proxy uh cannon fodder because the thing about imperialism is it
      30:54
      doesn’t give uh a hoot it does not care one tiny bit for the
      31:01
      Ordinary People it pretends to it pretends to care about them it’s their stand with Ukraine but look how many
      31:09
      people they are prepared to throw away in their desire to destroy Russia they
      31:15
      don’t care if they kill every Ukrainian to them ukrainians are just pieces on their chessboard they’re ex entirely
      31:22
      Expendable the entire Ukrainian nation is totally Expendable as far as its Western sponsors are concerned their
      31:29
      function is to try to somehow wear down the will of the Russian people to
      31:35
      somehow create some instability that will bring down the government of President Putin you know what they want
      31:41
      is regime change in Russia so they can have a government that will facilitate them to recolonize Russia that is what
      31:48
      they want that’s amazing that you understand our internal situation that way it’s amazing um and
      31:56
      the next question is about the modern tros kists tros kists uh in the west um
      32:03
      what are the key issues which divide the Western leftists I can say that there
      32:09
      are three such issues in our country first the attitude towards the uh
      32:14
      dictatorship of proletariat and uh um the allocation of the one God of the
      32:20
      proletariat you know so who are the real proletarians the second question is the
      32:26
      understanding of imperialism which we have already discussed and the third question is the possibility of building
      32:33
      socialism in a single country um in general our Tris joined the Liberals and
      32:40
      began to fully share their agenda um although they still dressed in red
      32:46
      clothes you know I think that last bit you said there Katarina is really the key they liberals who dress in red
      32:53
      clothes you know actually increasingly I’m of the the opinion that even Trotsky
      32:59
      himself was very likely an imperialist agent um and not even from later on but from quite early there’s some there’s
      33:06
      some evidence now that points to the possibility that he was already uh
      33:11
      communicating with British State forces British imperialist spy Masters during
      33:18
      World War I that’s during the Revolutionary period e if you look at his activity you look at his writing
      33:25
      what he was constantly doing was as a provocator and his his theories don’t
      33:33
      have a coherent narrative except that to be anti- Lenin and anti-bolshevik right they don’t like
      33:40
      everything he said you know that you can find contradictions and you can you know but what you find is at any particular
      33:46
      moment he’s against Lenin he’s against the Bolsheviks right doesn’t matter what they’re doing so sometimes it’s from one side sometimes it’s from Another Side um
      33:53
      the consistency as being anti-bolshevik and anti- Lenin and that continues with
      33:58
      the trotskyites you know trotskyism really if it wasn’t for the Advent of
      34:06
      Nikita kusf to power in the Soviet Union trism would have died a death after World War II because he was totally
      34:13
      exposed he spent the whole of World War II telling everybody that the Soviet Union is going to fall he told everybody
      34:19
      that uh Soviet Union had to fall how awful it was the Soviet Union won the war defeated fascism defied all of his
      34:26
      predictions built socialis even he himself had to recognize in other places even even while sometimes he was saying
      34:33
      it’s going to fall and it has to fall and was working with German Japanese any
      34:38
      imperialist power he could against the Soviet Union during the war then later on you know he also had to admit you
      34:45
      know some of the great achievements of the planned economy that he said could never be built right you know so he was
      34:51
      he did contradict himself completely and he would have died a nobody to be honest
      34:56
      with you if it wasn’t for the fact that when KF made his not so secret speech in
      35:03
      1956 he basically resurrected trotskyism all the lies he told in that speech were
      35:10
      recycled from trosky so immediately the Western intelligence agencies jump in
      35:15
      and start giving massive generous funding to recreating revolutionary communist
      35:21
      parties in the west based on trotskyist ideology because now even the Soviet Union says all these things which we
      35:29
      were saying were true if you grew up in the west the the uh history you were
      35:34
      taught in school of the Russian Revolution is trotsky’s version of the Russian Revolution and we are told that
      35:42
      everything trosky said was true trosky was the was the really great leader trosky was the person who Lenin liked
      35:47
      the best and who should have followed him he was a real revolutionary you know they never explained to us why they’re
      35:52
      so concerned about the fate of the Russian Revolution but it appears they were they would have really you know it
      35:58
      would have been much better for everybody if trosky had inherited uh the leadership after Lenin died and Stalin
      36:04
      was this awful evil baby eating dictator you know who murdered 20 people before breakfast you know all the rest of it so
      36:12
      um but we are given trotskyite myths as fact in the west almost from birth when
      36:19
      it comes to our understanding of socialism and the Soviet Union um and the you know trotskyism plays this and
      36:27
      has played since the 1950s and especially 60s 70s 80s a really
      36:32
      important role in helping to uh fragment and destroy the communist movement you
      36:40
      know Kev speech by itself is the most single most terrible thing that happened
      36:47
      I mean obviously it went with him taking over control of the Soviet Union or his click uh and the people around him the
      36:53
      forces around him but that speech and the policy of the Soviet Union that was
      36:58
      connected to that speech uh in the in the in the course of one year half of
      37:04
      the world’s Communist party members resigned so it had this huge Global
      37:10
      impact and into that that place of demoralization and
      37:15
      confusion and distress of so many people that we thought Stalin was this great
      37:20
      hero and now you’re telling us that he was this awful guy and we’ve been confused and misled and maybe our rulers
      37:26
      when they tell us things about about the Soviet Union maybe they’re telling the truth and all this chaos and every Communist Party split into factions
      37:33
      between people upholding Stalin and people agreeing with cruff and you know this all of this into this situation
      37:40
      came trotskyite parties so because Cru just leading of the Soviet Union was
      37:46
      preaching now peaceful coexistence with imperialism the peaceful road to socialism we don’t want revolutions
      37:52
      anymore all the revisionist parties that stuck with Kev and the Soviet Union which was the biggest part of every
      37:58
      every big party did that they followed this line they took it on and they and
      38:04
      they put it out to their masses and that totally demoralized the communist movement so someone who wants who
      38:09
      believes who reads marks and Lenin and understands we need Revolution what happens to them when the Communist party
      38:17
      is now saying oh no no what we have to do is focus on getting social Democrats elected to Parliament and we have to
      38:23
      live peacefully and there will be a steady evolusion to socialist M and you know anywhere there’s nuclear weapons
      38:29
      now so we can’t make a revolution because we’ll all get killed you know and and this demoralization well so
      38:35
      people who want Revolution now there were new organizations saying no no no no no this is not real socialism if you
      38:42
      want Revolution come to us we’re the real leninists and to prove that we’re the real leninists we take on all of the
      38:50
      words of the Bolshevik revolutionary period so they they always dress your
      38:57
      truck this is the trotskyite movement now suddenly emerges as a pole of Attraction for revolutionary minded
      39:04
      young people and they’re saying they’re using revolutionary words they’re saying one solution Revolution you know that’s
      39:11
      the solution to everything they they sound very very militant they sell newspapers on every corner and they have
      39:17
      names like you know spartacist and you know so they red hammer and you know
      39:22
      they they they take on all the all the imagery the iconography and the
      39:28
      nomenclature you know the the titles and the and the and the and the and the and the the vocabulary of the Bolshevik
      39:35
      leninist you know revolutionary period so they dress themselves up in these clothes but what’s the essence of their
      39:41
      policy you’re right they uh absolutely
      39:46
      despise the dictatorship of the pitaria they do not believe that the mass of the
      39:52
      poor working class uh can be trusted with power they denounce any development
      39:58
      anywhere in the world where the mass of the poor working class are making history as some terrible PCH they do not
      40:05
      accept Lenin’s thesis of imperialism this is how you see that trotskyism is really an imperialist ideology because
      40:13
      it essentially is rooted in the privileged sections of the workingclass and the petty Bourgeois in the west
      40:20
      that’s where it comes from that’s where it really rests naturally particularly because since it doesn’t recognize Len
      40:27
      in thesis on imperialism it doesn’t recognize two really important things about the world
      40:33
      number one is in the west the working class is divided because of imperialist
      40:38
      super profits into a labor aristocracy a privileged section and a less privilege section the trotskyites say no no no
      40:45
      we’re all workers we’re all the same they won’t recognize this difference and therefore they can’t act accordingly
      40:51
      they gloss it over and hide it and actually they base themselves in the labor aristocracy which is loyal to
      40:58
      imperialism right that’s number one on the on the the kind of flip side of that failure to understand what imperialism
      41:04
      does they don’t recognize the National Liberation struggles in the rest of the world as Progressive they denounce them
      41:12
      on the basis that their leaderships are Bourgeois not proletarian but of course
      41:18
      what that actually ends up meaning is in both cases they end up on the side of imperialism so they reinforce
      41:25
      imperialist propaganda about for example Irish Liberation
      41:30
      Fighters oh no they’re they’re boura it’s a boura nationalist Movement we can’t have anything to do with that so
      41:35
      they make it they make their objection sound very revolutionary but the essence of their objection is to make them side
      41:41
      with their own imperialist class so this is the role that trism plays it sucks up revolutionary minded young people keeps
      41:49
      them busy for a while doing nothing very meaningful and reinforces the propaganda
      41:55
      they’ve been given without helping them question and get rid of it which is actually the job of a Communist Party
      42:01
      job of a Communist party is to re-educate young people or people who are coming towards the movement and help them get rid of the prejudices that
      42:09
      their life the media the education system has filled their mind with but of course the trotskyites have a much
      42:15
      easier job they just wrap up those prejudices in you know revolutionary
      42:20
      sounding phraseology last point you made about socialist construction yes absolutely right you know in every time
      42:28
      the workers of the world actually get on take power and start building something
      42:33
      the trotskyists can be absolutely relied upon to denounce it but on the other
      42:38
      side they’re always seeing socialist projects where they don’t exist for
      42:44
      example uh I’ll give you some examples in the anti-war movement that I’ve been active in in Britain for many many years
      42:50
      in fact decades um every single time British imperialism was planning to Jo
      42:57
      American imperialism in launching a war against some country in the Middle East the trotskyites would turn up anti-war
      43:04
      meetings all around the country and start saying how the targeted country was having a popular
      43:11
      revolution and that there were people’s councils being formed so they make it sound like there’s something very socialist and [ __ ] going on so they
      43:19
      said it about Syria they said it about Iran uh they said it about Libya uh they
      43:25
      may have said about Yugoslavia I can’t remember all all the way back that far but you know they regularly say it and
      43:32
      they never afterwards admit that there was a total lie it’s always a total lie right but they propagate this idea
      43:39
      presumably most of their people don’t realize this is a lie they feel excited because they’re told it’s true and they
      43:44
      go to meetings and say it but these are essentially you know the security
      43:51
      services lies to brainwash Progressive
      43:56
      workers into feeling that the war aims of the imperialists are Justified we’re
      44:01
      going in to help get rid of a Nazi dictator and at the same time the people are rising up against the same dictator
      44:08
      right so in the anti-war movement the trotskyites come along reinforcing the imperialist pro-war propaganda with a
      44:16
      left kind of slogan onto it our leftists also say that there are uh there um the
      44:23
      imperialist dictatorship here in Russia or our like local
      44:29
      dictatorship so um if we lose the war just Americans will come and will rule
      44:36
      us and it was wouldn’t be worse than it is now that will be the same thing do
      44:42
      they I mean what shocks me about that is do they not remember what happened in the 1990s in the time of Boris yelton if
      44:50
      you want to see a taste of what colonized Russia would be look at what
      44:55
      was happening then or look at what’s happening in Ukraine you don’t have to
      45:00
      look very far do you to see what happens to a total Colony like yes okay Russia is capitalist and you know I understand
      45:07
      this emotional anger and hatred for the capitalist class in Russia who have who
      45:14
      have taken away who have appropriated the wealth produced by the Soviet people and taken away the the Socialist system
      45:20
      built by the Soviet people and but we have to study and remain
      45:27
      objective in our analysis or we become people who can be manipulated because
      45:32
      we’re acting emotionally not on the basis of socialist science socialist science is not a group of insults you
      45:39
      know this is what the trites do and the imperialists in their propaganda they encourage this everything should be
      45:45
      emotional and socialist terminology becomes swear words you’re an imperialist no you’re an imperialist you
      45:51
      know you’re a trist no you’re a no it has there must be meaning there must be meaning to these words you know to say
      46:00
      that there will be no difference is is really a terrible thing to say to the
      46:05
      Russian people because you are helping the imperialist to demoralize the people you’re helping to to demot demotivate
      46:12
      them and to demobilize them when everything is needed right now to the war effort to defeat imperialism and
      46:20
      Russia is not just fighting for Russia Russia is fighting for the world Russia’s doing an amazing job but it’s
      46:26
      it’s a very difficult and important fight that Russia’s engaged on we need to mobilize anybody who who wants to see
      46:33
      the end of imperialism has to understand that this existential fight of Russia is
      46:39
      a key battle in the defeat of us imperialism which is the main state of the world imperialist system right now
      46:46
      you know the European imperialist powers are nothing without the US’s military
      46:52
      might anymore and so the whole imperial system is hinging on the US’s ability to
      47:00
      remain hegemonic in the world and this fight you know why why can they not walk
      47:06
      away from it even though they’ve clearly been beaten and that was clear from quite early on they can’t walk away from
      47:11
      it because it’s such a big defeat for them the the the prospects of looting
      47:16
      Russia which they need the imperialists need to to have a big loot Fest soon or
      47:23
      their economy is going to collapse completely this like you have to study imperialism and imperialist economics
      47:29
      and see these developments objectively or you’ll end up giving you know even though you mean you want the best for
      47:36
      your country and your people you’re going to end up giving them the opposite message from the one that they need now
      47:41
      Russia is in a situation as an Anti-Imperialist but capitalist country where Communists need to make uh common
      47:49
      cause with the national Bourgeois against imperialism recognizing that
      47:55
      that’s an unstable Alliance it’s not a promise forever it’s not re it’s not an assumption that Vladimir Putin is going
      48:01
      to bring back the Soviet Union but let’s also admit to ourselves you know that
      48:06
      history is a contradictory process the truth is in having to face imperialism
      48:13
      the government of Vladimir Putin and National Russia is having to deliver things to the Russian people it’s also
      48:20
      having to develop its economy in a in a self-sufficient way which is very
      48:27
      beneficial to Russia and in many ways it’s having to resuscitate a whole load of Soviet traditions in order to stand
      48:33
      up to imperialism so whether it wants to or not objectively it’s doing things which help lay the groundwork for
      48:39
      bringing back the Soviet Union that might not be its plan that’s our plan right but you know we have to
      48:46
      objectively see that these actually these things are the outcome of this fight against imperialism and to me you
      48:53
      know good revolutionary Communists need to find a way to be at the heart of this process to mobilize the people that
      48:59
      actually defeating imperialism isn’t going to be enough if we don’t want to you know suffer all the same Fates again
      49:05
      and again we’re going to have to not just defeat imperialism but re reinstate
      49:10
      the Soviet Union we need to go back to a socialist planned economy in order to be strong secure peaceful educated cultured
      49:18
      you know you know all the things you lost right to live our best life right
      49:23
      to live your best life um I also wanted to to ask you about the organization in
      49:28
      which you belong to the international Anti-Imperialist platform uh where can
      49:34
      we read some program articles some Publications about the organization’s
      49:40
      activities and just tell a little bit about the organization so in fact the world
      49:46
      Anti-Imperialist platform was formed um after the launch of Russia’s special
      49:51
      military operation and it was really a response to the a theoretical confusion
      49:58
      in the communist movement globally in the wake of uh that operation being
      50:04
      launched because it was shocking to discover just how many parties call themselves socialist and communist were
      50:11
      denouncing Russia including in my own country the you know the Communist Party of Britain so-called the revisionist
      50:17
      party uh its position is a kind of sitting on the fence pretending to kind
      50:24
      of see both sides are bad and we just want peace oh there needs to be a peace plan there needs to be a peace plan but
      50:29
      in fact the the first line of their demands for this peace are Russian
      50:35
      troops out but of course Russian troops out means NATO troops in and there’s no
      50:41
      recognition of that it means carry on with your you know attempted genocide in the donbass Russian troops out it it
      50:47
      means essentially it’s agreeing with the imperialists that all this situation came about because Russia was randomly
      50:53
      aggressive one day you know Vladimir Putin woke up one day and decided to launch an unjustified aggression against
      50:59
      R against Ukraine know that’s crazy yeah so many many parties around the world
      51:05
      were repeating this which is essentially imperialist propaganda so what that shows us is that a lot of people who
      51:12
      call themselves Communists are not studying properly not following developments properly we had eight years
      51:18
      to prepare for what was happening with the Smo my party has produced a book on the war in Ukraine which puts together
      51:25
      the Articles we were writing from 2014 onwards like it was clear to people who
      51:30
      are communist and Marxist what was happening from then it shouldn’t have been a shock to them that the Smo ended
      51:38
      up being launched I mean it might have been a surprise in the moment but only for a very you know only momentarily in
      51:44
      terms of understanding the context and what had driven it there was nothing surprising it was all there in front of
      51:49
      us the M Minsk and you know the way that NATO was building up um uh Ukraine all
      51:55
      the rest of it and fortifying it all these things and certainly you know since the launch of the very quickly
      52:01
      after the start of the Smo we got a lot more information about just how militarized Ukraine had become you know
      52:08
      how fortified the country had become and there’s only one reason for all that fortification that’s that’s because
      52:14
      you’re planning a war against Russia no other reason but um so the the world
      52:20
      Anti-Imperialist platform was basically you know some communist groups got together and said look there’s a real
      52:25
      problem in our movement people are spreading um lies about and
      52:31
      and and repeating imperialist propaganda about Russia and they are demobilizing
      52:36
      the world’s working class and Progressive sections of working people who should be very clear that they have
      52:43
      a side in the war all of progressive Humanity should be on the side of Russia
      52:49
      should want the defeat of the fascist proxy forces in Ukraine which is basically a front for NATO it’s a proxy
      52:55
      war where by NATO against Russia the territory is Ukraine the cannon fodder
      53:01
      is Ukrainian but the war is launched by NATO to destroy Russia and we need to
      53:07
      understand that and the fact that so few communist parties are able to articulate that we thought is a real problem so
      53:13
      essentially we founded the platform we wrote something called the Paris declaration and if you search the
      53:18
      internet for the Paris declaration um world Anti-Imperialist platform you can probably find it we do have a website uh
      53:25
      I think it’s form 21.org where you can find Our Kind of founding documents and
      53:31
      you know since our founding conference which was in October two years ago in Paris where we launched the Paris
      53:38
      declaration with a fairly small number of parties initially signing it we have
      53:44
      made big efforts to connect with parties from around the world to hold conferences in different parts of the
      53:50
      world to bring uh Communists together on an Anti-Imperialist platform which means
      53:55
      exposing in the wrong and rotten theories about imperialism which are confusing too many people who identify
      54:03
      as Communists but haven’t really got a strong theoretical Foundation to be able
      54:08
      to make sense of what’s Happening uh and now I have the last question how life um changed in Britany
      54:17
      in Britain since uh 2020 um just has the standard of living
      54:22
      changed like public opinion something yes everything is changing quite fast these
      54:29
      days actually um you know there was already uh an economic crisis in Britain
      54:36
      that’s been ongoing and in many ways getting getting steadily worse since
      54:41
      2008 austerity for the working class you know uh Cuts in government spending cuts
      54:47
      in wages pay pensions have been steadily getting worse and worse since
      54:52
      2008 um 2020 there was another big stock market crash uh and it was covered up by
      54:59
      the covid lockdowns so a lot of people didn’t realize it happened but actually under the cover of paying people uh
      55:07
      paying to help people get through covid actually what the government did was print a lot of money to pay companies
      55:14
      that were failing on the stock exchange so we had a big bailout of uh the stock
      55:20
      exchange in 2020 uh we had a lot of money printing During the period of
      55:25
      covid to pay big pharmaceutical companies and various providers and big tech companies and you know so there was
      55:32
      some parts of the economy making a huge amount of money while many small companies were going out of business um
      55:38
      and since then of course with the Russia’s launch of Theo then Britain massively ramped up
      55:45
      its funding to the Ukrainian Army and that has also been done through money
      55:51
      printing which and of course all this money printing is is devaluing our our
      55:56
      our currency and creating inflation and then on top of that so we already had an inflation crisis we were that was that
      56:04
      has come back from 2008 that the government bailed out the banks which were failing in 2008 by printing a huge
      56:11
      amount of money and because they didn’t get the repercussions of that immediately they started to believe that
      56:17
      they could just keep printing money forever and it will have no no consequence uh and the imperialists can
      56:23
      also get away with this for a while because they have currencies which the whole world has to use so there’s many
      56:29
      many pounds in circulation many dollars especially in circulation so it takes a long time for your money printing to
      56:35
      start to devalue the currency but eventually it does right eventually
      56:41
      you’re getting and you and you’ve made a situation where inflation is now rampant and out of control and they can’t get a
      56:46
      handle back on it on top of this The All Out economic War they waged against
      56:54
      Russia at the beginning of the SMR and since then in the last two years has massively exacerbated our problem
      57:01
      because it cut off the supplies of cheap Russian energy to to Western Europe and
      57:07
      that has given us both inflation in the cost of all our Goods inflation in the
      57:12
      cost of all our transport and of course uh further inflation because there’s an energy shortage and all of that means
      57:19
      that we have an energy crisis the price of energy uh in Britain in the last few
      57:24
      years has gone up absolutely astronomically uh and the price of goods
      57:30
      is rising fast all the time so the standard of living and particularly for the poorest sections of of of the
      57:36
      country are plummeting very fast and every winter now in the papers there’s a
      57:42
      discussion how are people going to get through the winter you know can what’s going to happen if there’s a cold snap
      57:48
      like this is now becoming a thing we all have to worry about if there’s a sudden you know a big chunk of time where it
      57:53
      gets really really cold and people need a lot of heating what’s going to happen what’s going to happen to the poor in
      57:58
      that situation in our country you know so they we’re the sixth richest or seventh richest country in the world
      58:05
      they tell us and yet uh something like one in three or one in four British
      58:10
      children goes to school hungry and comes home to a cold house so this is this is
      58:18
      not something that I saw in the Britain that I grew up in this is a very modern phenomenon uh we are returning to the
      58:24
      times before World War II as the the social safety net is gradually being got
      58:29
      rid of and the reason for it is the is the economic crisis which means that uh
      58:34
      areas of profitability are being sought very desperately by the imperialist they’ve got all this money to invest they need
      58:41
      to invest and make a profit and so any part of the economy that’s not making profits for them they need to get a hold
      58:47
      of and make profits so all of our Public Utilities all of our public services are
      58:55
      privatized to become businesses and make profits and what that means is a worst
      59:00
      service that’s very expensive for workers and increasingly you know no
      59:05
      service or or just you know very little for paying a lot and all of this adds up
      59:11
      to you know a situation where our schools are in crisis our hospitals and
      59:16
      GP you know doctor surgeries are in crisis uh our roads don’t get mended you
      59:21
      know uh we don’t have uh decent you know we can’t afford enough food enough heating you know
      59:29
      masses of workers simply just can’t really afford their lives their working hours get longer and longer people are
      59:35
      more and more stressed so this is very much the the direction of travel we see and now we have a new labor government
      59:41
      which came in making one or two promises to make things a bit better immediately
      59:47
      got into office it said we fully back NATO we fully back Ukraine to the last
      59:52
      Ukrainian um you know we stand we stand with UK ukine forever uh and then they
      59:58
      said um oh we’ve just discovered that there’s a big hole in the finances that
      1:00:03
      we didn’t know about so those things we said we’d do for the poor we can’t do them so there were certain things they
      1:00:10
      were going to they were going to do like scrap a rule in benefits which means
      1:00:16
      that four families that have more than two children can only get benefits as if
      1:00:22
      they had two children so what that does is just force the poorest people in our
      1:00:27
      in our uh Society into really abject poverty and it’s children that they’re forcing into poverty with this measure
      1:00:33
      right they’re punishing them because their parents had too many children and not enough money right so they scrapped
      1:00:40
      that they said they were going to get away with it before they’re elected they said it’s an inhuman measure but then they came in and said oh well we got to
      1:00:46
      balance the book so sorry about that and they’ve introduced um means testing so
      1:00:52
      because of the kind of outrage about the cost of fuel for poor people the for the
      1:00:58
      last few Winters there’s been something called a winter fuel allowance for for the elderly for old people a winter fuel
      1:01:04
      allowance to help them get through the winter and not die of the cold you know
      1:01:09
      in the winter time now they’ve introduced a means test so you have to
      1:01:15
      prove that you’re poor enough to get the money and of course what that means is there will be a section of the poor
      1:01:21
      elderly who don’t quite qualify or who don’t even try and fill the form in
      1:01:26
      but who are too poor to heat their houses you know so again there’ll be a section of poor people who are penalized
      1:01:32
      by this by this measure so the you know the things that they’re doing as soon as they’ve arrived into office are push
      1:01:39
      down on the poor more money to the arms manufacturers more support for NATO you
      1:01:44
      know into the drive to war even more you know public statements about how China
      1:01:49
      is the most important enemy Russia’s got to be defeated China’s got to be defeated you know they want to defeat
      1:01:55
      every thing that stands in the way of imperialist Looting of the planet and this this is supposed to be a labor
      1:02:01
      government right the party of the working class is still described as by pe by the trotskyists by the
      1:02:07
      revisionists they still call the labor party the party of the working class although you know it spent a 100 years
      1:02:13
      as a servant of imperialism and what about the public opinion what people think about all this you know there’s a
      1:02:20
      lot of anger and frustration about uh you know the the the rapidly falling
      1:02:28
      living standards for many people U there’s also a lot of confusion about where it comes from unfortunately people
      1:02:35
      don’t really follow and pay a lot of attention to the war in Ukraine they don’t tend to understand its
      1:02:41
      significance uh or the fact that they’re being completely lied to about it there’s a lot of lies told to them about
      1:02:48
      immigration that the reason that they’re poor and that they don’t have jobs and that their services are crumbling is
      1:02:54
      because of immigrants which of course of course it is not it’s because of capitalism and imperialism but one thing
      1:03:00
      I think where public opinion is causing real problems for the ruling class is
      1:03:06
      when it comes to the genocide in Gaza now that is something which a large
      1:03:11
      section of the British working class is paying very close attention to and they
      1:03:16
      are disgusted by the complicity of every one of our political parties of all of
      1:03:22
      the main media Outlets it’s been totally exposed to them that the media and the
      1:03:27
      politicians lie and they know they’re lying and that they’re defending fascists they’re defending genocide they’re apologizing for it covering it
      1:03:34
      up for it arming it funding it so this is something which is creating a real
      1:03:40
      tension and a real problem for the ruling class uh and another set of
      1:03:45
      measures that has been announced by our government is to do with um trying to crush this descent so um they use the
      1:03:53
      excuse of racist riot that we had in the summer and actually those riots were
      1:03:59
      stirred up by the very people who then come up and say oh how shocking how disgusting we must get rid of horrible
      1:04:05
      racists right so they Stir It Up and then they use it as an excuse to say oh
      1:04:10
      our laws aren’t good enough if only we had different laws we wouldn’t have these awful racists on the streets
      1:04:16
      trying to murder refugees uh that’s not true we it’s already a crime to to try to murder
      1:04:22
      refugees it’s already a crime to try to burn down buildings you know it’s all all those things are already crimes
      1:04:28
      right but they’re saying oh because we need to crack down on this terrible Behavior what do we want to do what to
      1:04:34
      speed up the judicial process what will that mean that means there’s no time to prepare a
      1:04:39
      defense so that’s the abolition of they’re proposing essentially the abolition of due process they say we
      1:04:46
      have to crack down on hate speech hate speech you know people in my party were
      1:04:51
      arrested on the Palestine demonstrations for hate speech we were told it was
      1:04:56
      anti-semitic to be anti-zionist and our party members were arrested for hate speech but they weren’t able to bring a
      1:05:04
      prosecution because we have all the arguments and it would they wouldn’t be
      1:05:09
      able to get a conviction so they want to make the laws against hate speech
      1:05:15
      stronger not to stop racism which they provoke all the time to stop
      1:05:20
      anti-zionist which is Anti-Imperialist speech they want to stop that speech
      1:05:25
      very much and they’re trying to find ways to do it there recently was an arrest of um middle-aged lady who just
      1:05:33
      lives quietly in a village in rural England but who spends a lot of time
      1:05:39
      cating information about Palestine and posting it on the internet she’s not particularly well known she’s not in an
      1:05:44
      organization she doesn’t have a party behind her she was targeted for the most brutal arrest and an anti-terror raid it
      1:05:52
      was really horrific what they did to her what they did to her house very very brutal uh it’s time to send a message to
      1:05:58
      people you know to say it hate speech posting things online can can open you
      1:06:04
      up to this type of attack you know to scare people off because there’s a growing number of people who are paying
      1:06:09
      attention and who feel really like they have to do something so they want to crack down on speech um they want to
      1:06:17
      have more censorship and they want to crack down on the right to protest also the most recent Palestine demonstration
      1:06:24
      there were moves by the police to try to disrupt that stop it from happening stop it from taking the usual route stop it
      1:06:31
      you know even though they’re very respectable peaceful demonstrations they start they’ve started this process of
      1:06:37
      trying to disrupt it and trying to present you know when the riots happened in the summer a lot of the media and
      1:06:43
      politicians referred to them as protests so they want to conflate protest and
      1:06:49
      rioting um they want to conflate anti-zionism with racism so that they
      1:06:54
      can justify keeping it off the streets because the Palestine movement is something very
      1:07:00
      very uh worrying to them you know it’s a big uh upsurge in popular anger and at
      1:07:06
      the heart of it it’s Anti-Imperialist because the real message of it is imperialism out of the Middle East and
      1:07:12
      of course the Middle East is a key asset of anglo-american imperialism and without it they’re really in
      1:07:19
      trouble aren’t you scared to uh say all these things on YouTube or somewhere
      1:07:26
      well you know whatever happens happens you know you don’t you don’t become a revolutionary to live a quiet and easy
      1:07:32
      life uh so far we have been too small to
      1:07:37
      be serious targets of the state at the point at which that chains you know
      1:07:43
      we’ll have to find other ways but you know the reality is we have to we have
      1:07:48
      to tell people the truth you know that’s the job of the revolutionaries and if we
      1:07:54
      ultimately the working class has all the power it just doesn’t realize it you know but how
      1:08:01
      do you help them realize it if you too are are scared of what the ruling class
      1:08:06
      might do to you if you say something well then who are the people who are going to help the working class to understand that Marxism has the key to
      1:08:14
      the problems that face them that they have the power themselves to change
      1:08:19
      society that their force is far stronger even than all the forces of this
      1:08:24
      apparently very strong powerful State because this strong powerful State actually only benefits a tiny handful of
      1:08:31
      people and even with all its proxy forces lined up in front of it it’s still a small minority of society but we
      1:08:38
      have to understand that don’t we and the role of the Vanguard is to instill this
      1:08:43
      Consciousness into the masses and take away their fear take away their isolation bring back to them a sense of
      1:08:50
      class solidarity so you know this is this is our job we just we you know
      1:08:55
      whatever happens that’s what we have to do thank you very much D Jody I’m really
      1:09:01
      very happy to talk to you thank you you’re welcome it was nice meeting you take care thank you goodbye

    • #43870
      Grieved
      Participant

      I went back and listened to the Joti Brar interview, and made some timestamps for us. I agree that it’s a wonderful interview, with a lot of clarity presented. So for what it’s worth:

      It begins with the need for non-imperialist countries to emulate elements such as economic monopolies and large militaries, but created as a defense from and counter to the imperialist countries. The difference is subtle and elements have been conflated. Russia and China considered in this regard.

      @7:00. How Ukraine has been used for 100 years as a spear-tip against Russia. And continues with the discussion of imperialism and sovereignty.

      11:00 – 25:00. China considered in this light, and the nature of its economy (very important analysis, the first such I’ve encountered).

      25:00 – 32:00. The nature of fascism. It was always there, and always used on the colonies, but its appearance in the domestic society indicates the need for greater control (because trickery is no longer working). The long-term use of propaganda control: how to manufacture the Nazis in Ukraine, how to manufacture the Zionists themselves and of course Israel itself [Israel is the same kind of weapon for the imperialist imperative (the plunder of resources) as Ukraine has been].

      32:00 – 44:30. Fake liberals, the deluded “Left” – Trotsky as an anti-revolutionary force, and the revival of this force since Khrushchev. The existence and action of the Trotskyist delusion and deception, very dynamically in use today, pervasive and a great threat. The great co-opter of true revolution and worker success.

      44:30. Russia. The revolution versus the counter-revolution, and the threat to Russia’s future (same as all the countries of the world, as already considered). How the war in Ukraine between RF and NATO is purely a slice of the war of the workers against the imperialist rulers [very simple to see once one understands this, as Joti makes it all clear].

      54:00. How terrible things are in Britain, and why. Same Marxist analysis that so beautifully unveils the real dynamics at work with sovereignty, liberty and economic prosperity in every society. Money printing and inflation, etc. [And the story of Britain is important because the dynamics are no different from anywhere in the world, and the model is worth examining for the benchmarks to recognize.]

      Finally, Joti ends with the duty of the revolutionary not to be afraid, and to speak up.

    • #43872
      Mr P
      Participant

      Thanks Grieved!

      ………..

      Sal the sailorman, no doubt a fine lad, is wonderfully confused, and reflects, I think, the self-delusions of the fascist west… for example he believes Ruski is losing to 404! Quoting from g captain. https://gcaptain.com/black-sea-war-russias-naval-defeat-to-ukraine-but-strategic-gains-with-china/

      sal> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtuhkXIIncY

      What can be said to dispel such delusions?

    • #43981
      Mr P
      Participant

      Meyer’s evolution over the years is fascinating. g2mil.com/empire-rebellion.htm  (his brief remarks on the scene)  https://g2mil.com/empire-rebellion.htm

      G2mil is a collection of articles on military and international affairs authored by Carlton Meyer, a former Marine Corps officer who participated in military operations around the world. He had written dozens of articles for military magazines, but became frustrated that important issues are ignored by editors fearful of upsetting their corporate advertisers or government sponsors. G2mil has grown over the past 24 years, and includes facts not found in the corporate controlled media.

      Recent short videos by Meyer> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvq3YadD2uIFb7cFLbTtmFw/videos

      ……………

      I see smoothie went and gunned up with a 9×19 auto. Nice piece!

      “Beretta APX1 Compact. Just let it be…  Security, you know–we shoot first and ask questions later.”

      https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/

      He also remarks on why he’s not gunna split.

    • #43989
      Mr P
      Participant

      Gas Turbines are easy, simple, to work on, but NOT easy to design or build…Ruskie has closed off “western” sources and masterd the tricky parts…and is now able to build first class GT’s. This is a big deal!

      These machine, thousands of horse-power, typically run for years without deep overhauls.

      Russia’s Turbine Independence Changes the Energy Game  (yeah it does!)

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