Is China Failing Palestine? KJ Noh & Carl Zha Respond to Criticism

A friend sent me this video, and I critiqued it.  As usual, when the issue of China and Russia (to a lesser extent) appears, there are many who almost violently protect China to the exclusion of everything else. Anything that is considered within the ‘China Bad’ meme is attacked.  Because this is a criticism of China, there is an automatic classification that the one who critiques is ‘China Bad’.  One gets screeds and reams of comments such as ‘you don’t understand China’ and ‘China is different’, and ‘if China intervenes, it will be worse’, and other such inane comments.  In fact, I have experienced very few who can discuss this topic with reason.  But, to be true, I have experienced two such people who, with courage, even stepped up to defend me.  And all I wanted was a reasonable explanation, thinking I was missing something.

All of these supposed ‘China Bad’ issues disappear if one looks at two issues only.

The first is that China supports the UN Charter, along with the body of international law that accompanies it.  One part of this is the laws on genocide, and those spell out the ‘obligations’ on states in case of genocide.  China simply fails those obligations and keeps a robust trade environment going with zionist-israel.

The second is the advisory opinion of the Court of International Justice.  This opinion supported the obligations of states and, first and foremost, stipulated that trade with zionist-israel should be suspended.  They did not call it by the name of boycott, divestment, and sanctions, but by definition, what the court spelled out in the main, is specifically that.

The issue here is not that activists are in some ‘China Bad’ scenario.  The issue is that activists are asking China to fulfill their own espoused values and stop trading, specifically the weapons trade.  In fact, nobody is asking China to do more; rather, they are asking China to do less and not trade.  If this will change now that the word genocide has been accepted as the description of what zionist-israel is doing, we have to see.  Today at the UNGA, we will see if the Hague Group made any headway.  “The Hague Group is a global bloc of states committed to “coordinated legal and diplomatic measures” in defense of international law and solidarity with the people of Palestine.

Mr Lavrov, in his address to the G20 ministerial on the sidelines of the High Level UNGA week, mentioned the new research that the death toll in the Gaza Strip may be in the region of 680,000 Gazans dead.  If one considers that the best estimate we have of the population of Gaza before this war started (and this is not taking into account all the previous quick zionist-israel ‘haircuts’ on the Gazan population), was a population of the Strip at 2.1 million, which was a 6% decline from the previous year due to the war on Gaza.  It does not take a mathematician to see that a quarter of the Gazan population has been slaughtered.  The number itself cannot take into consideration the ongoing trauma of starvation and fear and tent camps droned and set on fire, losing families and running for your life, only to be droned on the spot.

One of my critiques in relation to KJ Noh, is that he is writing his own fairy story and he disappears into his own fantasy.  He has no grounding in these laws and as such he is devising what he thinks, and this is all in defense of China.   Don’t make up stories!  This critique of China is not only for China, but all of the States that are still trading with zionist-israel.  China is not different here, as it has accepted all of international law and that includes the obligations on states in time of genocide.    

Here is the video and I’ll add Fiorella in Moscow’s critique afterwards.

From Fiorella

I’m sorry but no.

Everyone knows the United States is literally at fault for what Israel is doing because of the funding mechanism and the weapons that it gives the entity. This type of support to a lesser degree is echoed in most western European countries like the UK and even the Five Eyes. That’s a given. No one with a brain is saying otherwise.

But Zionism is imbedded in Washington but it is also spreading like a cancer elsewhere. It’s in Eurasia as well, and Israel has positioned itself as a vital economic member of the global economy. As much as we hate it.

The argument here is that China can’t stop doing business with Israel because it’s dealing with the American empire. This is total bullshit because they don’t need business with Israel to succeed. Same as their lack of recognizing Ansurallah in Yemen and aiding Saudis.

Simply because we can blame the West and have no faith in them, means we have faith in China or Russia to do better. But if the argument is they can’t because they’re facing NATO/West, then we have no hope. The US government as it stands would need an actual upending and revolution to ever change course on Israel. Which will take decades. That’s the reality. I have faith Russia and China could do something much sooner. Which is why I argue they need to, as powerful nations, cut ties with Israel. It’s not that hard to understand.

If a multipolar world will be truly independent of imperialism and show more equity we can’t ignore genocide. And we sure as hell can’t have relationships with a demonic genocidal entity like Israel. That’s not hurting the Palestinian cause but helping it and hello any notion of a coming different paradigm.

I don’t agree with these statements here. Get your firm ideology out of the way and look at reality. Some of the left are blinded by the need to fit their ideology by creating alternate realities that don’t exist.

It is generally a waste of time to have to debunk anything, and it is not worth going into detail.