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The AfD, Germany: some information that is new to me

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Chris24
Chris24
11 months ago

Hi Amarynth, thanks for accepting me to join the chat. I have searched for the medium from which these AFD statements and pictures originate, also for the logo of the medium that is in the top right corner of the photos “red.” Please name the source of these pictures, as… Read more »

Mr P
11 months ago

It seems to me that an AFD Machtergreifung is more or less inevitable. It also seems to me that they say ugly and irresponsible things, as well as make many accurate observations. They’re more result of Policy effect from years of Frau Merkel than anything else. Some manifestation like AFD… Read more »

AHH
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AHH
11 months ago
Reply to  Mr P

Yes agree, they’re anointed.. but it may not be all bluster to deceive donors and empire. The fascists said it in 1920s too and went on to discharge the words.  The same wave is currently underway in all of Europe. We’ve anticipated their coming, necessary to the Last Drang on… Read more »

Mr P
11 months ago
Reply to  AHH

Yup! Simply noting that their character will determine their particular manifestation…and I suppose that like their predessor in the 1930’s, they may well cooperate with the immoral fascist aspects of the Jewish tribes. Perhaps openly, perhaps secretly.- probably both. Just now their position follows the money. 😉 Anyway, the die… Read more »

AHH
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AHH
11 months ago
Reply to  Mr P

Talking of character, I watched speeches of Alice Weidel at the Reichstag in last years.  I was shocked by her disdain and absolute contempt for all parties she was addressing! She didn’t hide it in face and tone.  The same righteous Wrath and Victimhood as seen in Mein Kampf. An… Read more »

wlhaught2
11 months ago

That curbs my tepid enthusiasm for AfD. Reminds me of a Gillette commercial from decades back. Thanks, I needed that.

Nico Cost
11 months ago

We see peoples throughout the Western world protesting against woke neo-liberalism by voting for neo-conservative controlled opposition. Addicted peoples who are distracted by bread and games, not realizing that they are choosing the other side of the same coin. The bankers sponsor both sides and always win. The democratic system… Read more »

AHH
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AHH
11 months ago
Reply to  Nico Cost

We are usually stupid and lazy, unless smart and heartless. The latter tend to float to the top.. 

What i find fascinating about the German reprise, is that this time Anglo-Zionists do not even hide the strings. 

Musk, as Scholz complained, is openly engineering their coming victory [01] [02] [03]

wlhaught2
11 months ago
Reply to  AHH

Third link: German Chancellor Scholz uses New Year address to target Elon Musk, says ‘future will NOT be decided by social media owners’

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The Electric Musk that reeks of bad incense is complaining about others being schizophrenic oafs? I would think he could afford a mirror.

Steve from oz
Steve from oz
11 months ago
Reply to  Nico Cost

Great comment Nico, but it’s representative democracy that makes people stupid and lazy.

Participatory democracy will make people smarter.

Nico Cost
11 months ago
Reply to  Steve from oz

Hi Steve, thanks. But… does participatory democracy even exist – fully implemented? And… has it ever existed – including for instance women? Why do we think this could really work? Don’t get me wrong, because I look for the solution in people and not in a form of government. Some… Read more »

Snow Leopard
Snow Leopard
11 months ago
Reply to  Nico Cost

Hi Nico and Steve: I see you as both speaking vital truth about this issue. It seems to me this either or conceptual dichotomy between political liberation and spiritual awakening is a major pressing mental challenge of our times. It is both a personal spiritual and a cultural-political challenge. As… Read more »

Nico Cost
11 months ago
Reply to  Snow Leopard

Hi Snow Leopard, Don’t we need both personal awakening and meaningful community? Is meaningful community possible without personal awakening? But Athenian participatory direct democracy eventually broke down, I believe, because the people themselves were operating from limited ego states and ended up pursuing power and empire under Pericles. You gave… Read more »

Snow Leopard
Snow Leopard
11 months ago
Reply to  Nico Cost

Hi Nico: We are really in accord here, even though we may appear to approach things from our seemingly different backgrounds. You write “it needs people who are truly civilized to have that meaningful community. The question is how could that transformation look like.” Exactly and so to the point:… Read more »

Nico Cost
11 months ago
Reply to  Snow Leopard

You’re welcome Snowy. But you deserve the credits, because you’re open to open up even further and do the work finding your truth beyond the truth. Hugs, Nico. PS. Thanks.

Steve from oz
Steve from oz
11 months ago
Reply to  Nico Cost

Hello to Nico and Snowy, I’ve written elsewhere against the use of the term neo-feudalism, based on Kropotkin’s wonderful book, Mutual Aid. In it, he describes the feudal and pre-feudal times as eras in which the common people had effective democratic rights and practices. From my comment elsewhere — In… Read more »

Nico Cost
11 months ago
Reply to  Steve from oz

Hi Steve, thanks for sharing Kropotkin. Surely democracy cannot actually exist because, paradoxically, it shields itself from other forms of government. Someone who does not want democracy in a democracy may say so but has no chance of abolishing democracy. You are bound by the framework that is fixed. In… Read more »

Steve from oz
Steve from oz
11 months ago
Reply to  Nico Cost

Nico, to get back to your original question — “But… does participatory democracy even exist – fully implemented? And… has it ever existed…” I think Kropotkin is saying that it did, and was widespread, even in those eras when we falsely assumed that kings had absolute power. I seem to… Read more »

Snow Leopard
Snow Leopard
11 months ago
Reply to  Steve from oz

Thanks Steve: That piece from Kropotkin was excellent. It helps me better understand a comment I read from Marx when he was writing about medieval political economy. Marx wrote that economic production at that time was “a subordinate mode of self activity.” Human self activity tended to govern life on… Read more »

ros
ros
11 months ago
Reply to  Nico Cost

Hi, Democracy fails due to the electorates not understanding that participation in political activities is essential ….otherwise it is hyjacked and has been …. For ever …. Every system can be hijacked …. EU US et al with their “special system s” have been hyjacked by the wealthy class obsessed… Read more »